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Minors in R.I. can be strippers

11:44 AM EDT on Tuesday, July 21, 2009

By Amanda Milkovits
Journal Staff Writer

PROVIDENCE –– Rhode Island teens under 18 can’t work with power saws or bang nails up on roofs.
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Lt. Gov. Roberts wants law to ban underage strippers

Your turn: Do you think 16 and 17 is too young to be a stripper?

Read Title 11 Criminal Offenses, Chapter 11-9 Children, Section 11-9-1 of Rhode Island Law

Extra: Behind closed doors: How R.I. decriminalized prostitution

But dance at strip clubs? Sure. Just as long as the teens submit work permits, and are off the stripper’s pole by 11:30 on school nights.

It’s enough to surprise even those in America’s mecca of striptease and sin –– Las Vegas.

“Everybody buzzes about ‘Nevada and Sin City, tsk, tsk,’ ” said Edie Cartwright, spokeswoman for the Nevada attorney general’s office. “But we regulate it.”

Providence police recently discovered that teen job opportunities extend into the local adult entertainment world while they were investigating a 16-year-old runaway from Boston. The girl told detectives that she worked at Cheaters strip club this spring, and the police got tips about other underage girls working at another club on Allens Avenue.

That’s when the police found that neither state law, nor city ordinance bars minors from working at strip clubs. Those under 18 can’t buy pornography, and no one may take pictures or film minors in sexually suggestive ways. But the law doesn’t stop underage teens from stripping for money. Even if the police saw underage boys or girls on stage at a strip club, they wouldn’t be able to charge them or the club owners with a crime.

“I’ve been doing this a long time,” said youth services Sgt. Carl Weston, “and I can’t find anything that says it’s illegal for a 16-year-old or a 17-year-old to take her top off and dance.”

State law says that anyone who employs a person under 18 for prostitution or for “any other lewd or indecent act” faces up to 20 years in prison and up to $20,000 in fines. But that isn’t enough to prevent underage girls from working in strip clubs, said senior assistant city solicitor Kevin McHugh, who researched the issue a dozen years ago when a teenage dancer was found at a raided strip club.

The term “lewd or indecent” is subjective, McHugh said, and is applied to behavior that’s protected by the First Amendment. “Since we have strip clubs in Providence,” McHugh said, “citizens don’t consider [stripping] lewd.”

With the age of consent at 16 in Rhode Island, the police worry that teenage strippers could take their business to the next level and offer sexual favors –– and it wouldn’t be illegal. State law currently allows indoor prostitution, and two bills intended to ban it have stalled in the General Assembly.

State and federal child labor laws dictate the number of hours and times of days that minors may work, and forbid certain jobs considered to be hazardous. For example, those under 16 can’t work on ladders or pump gas. Youths age 16 and 17 can’t work in manufacturing or excavation.

“Nowhere does it say anything about a kid not being able to strip,” Weston said.

Establishments with city liquor licenses need to keep the teenagers from the booze, but not the stage. “You can’t serve alcohol if you’re under 18,” Weston said, “but you can be the target of a man’s groping hands at age 16.”

But a Rhode Island teen stripper won’t find work in Massachusetts, where state law prohibits anyone from hiring minors under 18 for live performances involving sexual conduct.

Other states have had mixed encounters with the issue.

After a 12-year-old girl was found dancing nude in a club in Dallas last year, the city council swiftly passed rules barring minors from strip clubs and automatically revokes for a year licenses for sex businesses caught employing or entertaining minors.

But an Iowa county judge ruled last year that a striptease by a 17-year-old girl at a strip club was artistic expression protected by the First Amendment. The state attorney general’s office has asked the state Supreme Court to review the ruling.

Nevada, meanwhile, doesn’t let anyone under 18 work in casinos or in public dance halls where there is alcohol — and there are no strip clubs in Nevada without one or the other, or both, said Cartwright, of the attorney general’s office. Minors aren’t even allowed to deliver mail to brothels.

When questioned about Rhode Island’s law, Michael J. Healey, a spokesman for the attorney general’s office, offered a copy of the current state law but did not comment for this article.

But Weston, of the Providence police, was adamant that the law should be changed.

“It leads to a societal breakdown,” he said. “These are just little girls.”
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...and your problem is??????????

Why the moral laws within the past 80 years? Shit, eons of humans getting together at a young age and all of a sudden that is "evil"? Yea, we live longer, heard that excuse, but seriously, why the push? Why did the older generations NOT have a problem with it? Why do OTHER cultures NOT have a problem with it?
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...wow...
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I predict a huge increase in tourism to Rhode Island.. chuckle
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Do you think 16 and 17 is too young to be a stripper?

RE: absolutely NOT. giggity.
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I predict a huge increase in tourism to Rhode Island.. chuckle
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Moving to RI
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After a 12-year-old girl was found dancing nude in a club in Dallas last year.
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WTF! 12!

16/17 Whatever, its not like i frequent strip clubs but meh, probably old enough mentally to handle it.

But 12, jesus christ, thats just mental.

Im not one to be shocked very easily on these forums but thats just insane.

Where the fuck were her parrents, thats all i can say.
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You would think legally it would be in line with the age of consent for the country?

Is it different on a state by state basis in the US, or is it national?

Here in the UK the age of consent is 16, most of europe is in line with that i think if slightly differs and might be as low as 14 or 15 in spain or portugal.

Probably be national outcry over here if there were 16 year old strippers though, and with good reason.

Could there be 16/17 year olds who can handle it, sure, should it be allowed, i have no idea, shit ive met 25 year old girls who are complete fucking retards.

Jesus, if i had a 16/17 year old daughter who was a stripper id make damn sure she was in a good union, id be worried out my mind about her safety.
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After a 12-year-old girl was found dancing nude in a club in Dallas last year.


WTF! 12!

16/17 Whatever, its not like i frequent strip clubs but meh, probably old enough mentally to handle it.

But 12, jesus christ, thats just mental.

Im not one to be shocked very easily on these forums but thats just insane.

Where the fuck were her parrents, thats all i can say.
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I know, I'll bet a young girl has to have a parental signature to get ears pierced. This is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard.

The part that is the most strange is the curfew. She can be felt up by dirty old men,as long as she's home before the coach turns back into a pumpkin?

What kind of effed up Cinderella nightmare is this?

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Minors in R.I. can be strippers

11:44 AM EDT on Tuesday, July 21, 2009

By Amanda Milkovits
Journal Staff Writer

PROVIDENCE –– Rhode Island teens under 18 can’t work with power saws or bang nails up on roofs.
Related links

Lt. Gov. Roberts wants law to ban underage strippers

Your turn: Do you think 16 and 17 is too young to be a stripper?

Read Title 11 Criminal Offenses, Chapter 11-9 Children, Section 11-9-1 of Rhode Island Law

Extra: Behind closed doors: How R.I. decriminalized prostitution

But dance at strip clubs? Sure. Just as long as the teens submit work permits, and are off the stripper’s pole by 11:30 on school nights.

It’s enough to surprise even those in America’s mecca of striptease and sin –– Las Vegas.

“Everybody buzzes about ‘Nevada and Sin City, tsk, tsk,’ ” said Edie Cartwright, spokeswoman for the Nevada attorney general’s office. “But we regulate it.”

Providence police recently discovered that teen job opportunities extend into the local adult entertainment world while they were investigating a 16-year-old runaway from Boston. The girl told detectives that she worked at Cheaters strip club this spring, and the police got tips about other underage girls working at another club on Allens Avenue.

That’s when the police found that neither state law, nor city ordinance bars minors from working at strip clubs. Those under 18 can’t buy pornography, and no one may take pictures or film minors in sexually suggestive ways. But the law doesn’t stop underage teens from stripping for money. Even if the police saw underage boys or girls on stage at a strip club, they wouldn’t be able to charge them or the club owners with a crime.

“I’ve been doing this a long time,” said youth services Sgt. Carl Weston, “and I can’t find anything that says it’s illegal for a 16-year-old or a 17-year-old to take her top off and dance.”

State law says that anyone who employs a person under 18 for prostitution or for “any other lewd or indecent act” faces up to 20 years in prison and up to $20,000 in fines. But that isn’t enough to prevent underage girls from working in strip clubs, said senior assistant city solicitor Kevin McHugh, who researched the issue a dozen years ago when a teenage dancer was found at a raided strip club.

The term “lewd or indecent” is subjective, McHugh said, and is applied to behavior that’s protected by the First Amendment. “Since we have strip clubs in Providence,” McHugh said, “citizens don’t consider [stripping] lewd.”

With the age of consent at 16 in Rhode Island, the police worry that teenage strippers could take their business to the next level and offer sexual favors –– and it wouldn’t be illegal. State law currently allows indoor prostitution, and two bills intended to ban it have stalled in the General Assembly.

State and federal child labor laws dictate the number of hours and times of days that minors may work, and forbid certain jobs considered to be hazardous. For example, those under 16 can’t work on ladders or pump gas. Youths age 16 and 17 can’t work in manufacturing or excavation.

“Nowhere does it say anything about a kid not being able to strip,” Weston said.

Establishments with city liquor licenses need to keep the teenagers from the booze, but not the stage. “You can’t serve alcohol if you’re under 18,” Weston said, “but you can be the target of a man’s groping hands at age 16.”

But a Rhode Island teen stripper won’t find work in Massachusetts, where state law prohibits anyone from hiring minors under 18 for live performances involving sexual conduct.

Other states have had mixed encounters with the issue.

After a 12-year-old girl was found dancing nude in a club in Dallas last year, the city council swiftly passed rules barring minors from strip clubs and automatically revokes for a year licenses for sex businesses caught employing or entertaining minors.

But an Iowa county judge ruled last year that a striptease by a 17-year-old girl at a strip club was artistic expression protected by the First Amendment. The state attorney general’s office has asked the state Supreme Court to review the ruling.

Nevada, meanwhile, doesn’t let anyone under 18 work in casinos or in public dance halls where there is alcohol — and there are no strip clubs in Nevada without one or the other, or both, said Cartwright, of the attorney general’s office. Minors aren’t even allowed to deliver mail to brothels.

When questioned about Rhode Island’s law, Michael J. Healey, a spokesman for the attorney general’s office, offered a copy of the current state law but did not comment for this article.

But Weston, of the Providence police, was adamant that the law should be changed.

“It leads to a societal breakdown,” he said. “These are just little girls.”
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wher is Chris Rock when you need him?
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he's at a titty-bar in Rhode Island.
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WTF! 12!

16/17 Whatever, its not like i frequent strip clubs but meh, probably old enough mentally to handle it.

But 12, jesus christ, thats just mental.

Im not one to be shocked very easily on these forums but thats just insane.

Where the fuck were her parrents, thats all i can say.
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Gonna have to agree...

I think below age 17, it's terrible, it should never be allowed.

Just sick.
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You would think legally it would be in line with the age of consent for the country?

Is it different on a state by state basis in the US, or is it national?

Here in the UK the age of consent is 16, most of europe is in line with that i think if slightly differs and might be as low as 14 or 15 in spain or portugal.

Probably be national outcry over here if there were 16 year old strippers though, and with good reason.

Could there be 16/17 year olds who can handle it, sure, should it be allowed, i have no idea, shit ive met 25 year old girls who are complete fucking retards.

Jesus, if i had a 16/17 year old daughter who was a stripper id make damn sure she was in a good union, id be worried out my mind about her safety.
 Quoting: HannibalTheCannibal

It varies by state. I'm with you on the 12 year old. I'm not bugged by the 17 year old. Really, what's the difference between a girl who's about to turn 18 and a girl who just turned 18? No, it's not a prison sentence, before someone makes that joke.
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Big deal

In Georgia (U.S.), teachers are allowed to have sex with their students as long as that student is 16 or over.

A DA in a county near mine has refused to prosecute a female teacher who had sex throughout the year with a 16 & 17 year old student.....she was f*cking them ON SCHOOL GROUNDS as well as giving the boys oral sex in her car during school.
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Why did the older generations NOT have a problem with it?
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yeah, the occupants of little house on the prairie used to go down
the local stripperama right after sunday service
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bunch of hypocrite aholes! your fucking founding fathers were a bunch of paedos yet theyre fugging praised.
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It varies by state. I'm with you on the 12 year old. I'm not bugged by the 17 year old. Really, what's the difference between a girl who's about to turn 18 and a girl who just turned 18? No, it's not a prison sentence, before someone makes that joke.
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Agreed.
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i don't agree with minors stripping but i will say when i was in germany, the drinking age was 15 years old.

you would see 15 year olds in bars drinking with adults.
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A 17 year old girl can join the Marines -- with a signed note from her parents -- and get sent to Iraq. Which is worse?
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A 17 year old girl can join the Marines -- with a signed note from her parents -- and get sent to Iraq. Which is worse?
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strippin is far worse.
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strippin is far worse.
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A woman in the military is more likely to get raped. Then there's that IED hazard.
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She can be felt up by dirty old men,as long as she's home before the coach turns back into a pumpkin?
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it's against the law to touch strippers in my state

what is it there?
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Its been about 6 years since by lastvisit to a RI strip club but RI is known in New England for its stip clubs because they are so much fun.

Oh yea...and prostitution is legal as long as it occurs indoors.
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Sounds perfectly fine to me. Dunno what you people are crying about. Only in this crappy western culture are we so much like homosexuals that get scared of a little nudity.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world has under 18 year olds working strip clubs and as prostitutes all legally. No surprise there.
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