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Bouncers and parking attendants given police-style powers to issue on-the-spot fines (and not just to club-goers)

 
Benny the Bouncer
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07/26/2009 10:28 AM
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Bouncers and parking attendants given police-style powers to issue on-the-spot fines (and not just to club-goers)
Bouncers and parking attendants given police-style powers to issue on-the-spot fines By Tamara Cohen
Last updated at 1:28 AM on 25th July 2009
Comments (51) Add to My Stories Trouble: More than 1,400 people across England and Wales have been accredited to hand out instant fines
Bouncers have been given legal powers to issues on-the-spot fines for anti-social behaviour.

Magistrates are incensed about the scheme which gives nightclub doormen police-style powers to patrol the streets.

More than 1,400 people across England and Wales have been accredited to hand out instant fines for offences from drinking in an illegal area to disorder, harrassment, flyposting and dog fouling.

The Magistrates Association which represents 30,000 officials is understood to have lodged a formal protest about the scheme to Justice Secretary Jack Straw.

The Home Office insists all individuals given these powers are highly-vetted 'community figures' including neighbourhood wardens, parking attendants and security guards.

A Norwich-based firm, EventGuard, is the latest to acquire the power of instant fines for 25 of its bouncers.to help the local police tackle antisocial behaviour. It manages crowds and traffic at high-profile events such as the Royal Norfolk Show but also undertakes 'door supervision'.

The accredited individuals have access to the Police National Computer and are required to use it to check a person's previous convictions before issuing an on-the-spot fine.

If the person has a criminal record already, the police must be called and the matter dealt with through the courts.

The unprecedented powers, which have prompted fears about abuse of confidential data, are granted under the Police Reform Act 2002 to organisations that are deemed to contribute towards community safety.

Individuals must undergo training and wear an approved badge and uniform. The number of accredited individuals has soared from just 945 in 2005 to 1,406 last year.
Magistrates have criticised what has been described as a 'third tier' police force below trained police officers and controversial community support officers or 'Blunkett's bobbies'.

The Director of Public Prosecutions Keir Stamer QC this week controversially backed out-of-court penalties saying it would help ease the workload for courts. On the spot fines and conditional cautions are now handed out to half of all 1.4 million offenders dealt with in a year.

But John Howson, deputy chairman of the Magistrates Association expressed deep unease about the scheme.

He told The Times: 'Our concern is that here we have essentially a third tier police force that is now inclduing security guards and door supervisors. We don't think it appropriate for these people to have that access.'

He added: The DPP should not be considering what is expedient but what is just.'

Paul Allen, chairman of the Norfolk magistrates' bench added: 'All magistrates in the country are concerned about this because it has been done without any consultation with us.'

Nigel Briggs, mangaing director of EventGuard whose clients include Cambridge Football Club, the Univeristy of East Anglia and the BBC said the employees had been trained for five months. He added that no fines had yet been given out and were a 'last resort'.

A Home Office spokesman said: 'Community Safety Accreditation Schemes (CSAS) enable chief officers of police forces to designate limited powers to people such as neighbourhood wardens, security guards and stewards at sporting events who already contribute to community safety. These are no vigilantes. Their employer must be fit and proper to supervise the functions for which accreditation is sought.'
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Anonymous Coward
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07/26/2009 10:31 AM
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Re: Bouncers and parking attendants given police-style powers to issue on-the-spot fines (and not just to club-goers)
that suggests that bouncers don't engage in any anti-social behaviour as well. yeah, right.
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07/26/2009 10:33 AM
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privatizing the police force in an under the table manner.
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07/26/2009 10:35 AM
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i'm in two minds about this.

A couple of years ago I would have screamed bloody murder and called for police powers to stay with police and make sentencing for assaults and affray a lot tougher.

But now I just cannot understand why people even bother going out to bars and clubs in the city centres on Friday and Saturday nights. Dreadful, loathsome places. Gangs looking for fights to cap off an evening, horrible fat loud drunk chavs everywhere, cctv operators and police looking for targets/victims to take dna samples for the slightest 'offence', drink prices with 800% markups compared to what you can buy in the shops or on the continent, terrible music, expensive taxi ride home etc. I don't really have any sympathy for them.

Kill 'em all.
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07/26/2009 10:38 AM
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Benny was the bouncer at the palais de dance
Hed slash your grannys face up given half a chance.
Hed sell you back the pieces, all for less than half a quid
He thought he was the meanest-
Until he met with savage sid.

Now sidney was a greaser with some nasty roots
He poured a pint of guinness over bennys boots
Benny looked at sidney:
Sidney stared right back in his eye.
Sidney chose a switchblade
And benny got a cold meat pie.
Oh! what a terrible sight,
Much to the peoples delight.
One hell of a fight.

Sidney grabbed a hatchet, buried it .... in bennys head.
The people gasped as he bled:
The end of a ted?

Well, they dragged him from the wreckage of the palais in bits.
They tried to stick together all the bits that would fit.
But some of him was missing
And part of him arrived too late,
So now he works for jesus
As the bouncer at st. peters gate.





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