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Television Sitcoms & Destructive interpersonal social conditioning. Male stereotypes of incompetency, cluelessness & purposeless.

 
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POLL: Television Sitcom Stereotypes
 Piggybank on the communication differences between male & females
 Are not based on reality
 Are adopted as conditioned behavior in waking reality
 Are destructive
 Are accurately portrayed
 Are a an agenda of the Crab People
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Television Sitcoms & Destructive interpersonal social conditioning. Male stereotypes of incompetency, cluelessness & purposeless.

Social Conditioning via Television.

When you turn on your television, the social atmosphere that is displayed by various sitcoms is a fabricated reality that most persons "adopt" into their mental & social & communication behavior. This goes for both genders.

American Media has conditioned the misery that is often found in social relationships.

Shows like "Everybody loves Raymound" and "King of Queens" or "Sienfield" portray Men & Women in a negative manner, and retool our social & communication behavior. Perhaps this is a Masonic or Illuminati agenda, i'm not sure. (I had to include this comment for the paranormal & conspiracy buffs)

The fact is, the television portrays men as the "bumbling idiots" who are "clueless", "lazy" and "dumb" and need to be "told" and "criticized" by women how to live life. These erroneous stereotypes, if adopted by women or men is extremly disruptive and a social poison.

Men are not "clueless", "lazy" or "dumb". Well. We might be lazy, but that's human nature. I don't think the portrayal of the "dumb" and "clueless" male is accurate at all. I notice these sitcoms always involve the female characters bossing the men, criticising them and telling them what to think/how to dress/how to act etc etc.

The problem occurs that men watch these shows and believe that they are somehow "just as clueless" as the guy on Television. It's a common theme & meme.

Seinfeld, George Costanza, Raymond, The fat fedex guy on the Queens show, Chandler Bing, etc etc etc.

I'm not too sure if the "Crab People" who run network television, got together in a meeting one day, and decided to create male television role models as being incompetent effeminate males who require the constant criticism & overcritical direction of the females they interact with.

:crabpeople:

I also notice, many of these Male characters are portrayed as being "purposeless" and being employed in mundane careers/work which are passionless and fulfill no intrinsic desire. They are often portrayed without a deep inner need for career advancement... This just is not true for any male living in society. Most men have a spiritual blueprint of where they should be and where they want to be, rather they lack the tools to get them there.

If you speak to any man who is living the "purposeless" life that is often characterized on television, you would come to the conclusion that they are NOT clueless, incompetent. They often already have a visceral desire for achievement and have inner passions that must be cultivated. However, women and men cultivate our inner passions very differently, especially when it comes to career, status, recreation.

I think these male stereotypes condition both genders into behaving in negative communication habits. If women believe that men are incompetent, they create a negative feedback loop in social communication and spousal behavior. If men are on the receiving end of fruits of these negative beliefs, they might turn to the television and "relate" to that man's stereotype because their spouse/girlfriend/friend acts in a similar manner on television. The problem is, this creates a false feedback loop that is not based on reality, it is only based on false conditioning.

If men and women realize that it is not the stereotypes that are displayed on television that are at fault, rather, it is our differences in communication faculties that are responsible for our relationships success or inherent failures... We would realize the conditioning on television is not based on anything factual. It is just taking advantage of the very core of our differences in communication.

Basically the major premise that the sitcom "gender Stereotypes" piggybank off of is this:

Men think & live in their brain.
Women think & live using verbal communication.

There is no need to believe in any false stereotypes of incompetency, cluelessness that are portrayed by Raymond, Seinfeld, George Costanza, Family Guy etc etc... If you understand it is our communication differences that cause the discrepancies in social status, you will understand there is absolutely no need to believe or even utilize stereotypes to come to deeper understandings of the human condition.

Perhaps the reason negative communication behavior occurs with men & women is because of the stereotypes presented on television. The male & female characters being portrayed in a skewed manner maybe giving erroneous blueprints for social behavior in the real world.

Anyways... Thank you for letting me share my thoughts. As Jesus Christ said... By ye words you are condemned and by ye words you are justified. Or something to that regard.

Peace & have a nice day!

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Raz










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Man. Where is my crab people smilie.

:crabpeople:

holla.
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Reminds me of an article and comment on the article I made yesterday.

article: [link to relationships.blog-city.com]

Post below, last paragraph is the juice.

Lets stop the blame game. My mother shook me as an infant Then when I needed her intimacy she withheld. My father verbaly and phsycaly at times abused me as well. He was raised by an alcoholic woman who abused him. I use to blame them both and myself for treating my wife the way my father treated me. I had years of abandonment dreams and a shamanic ability to go deeply into my unconcious and bring up these things. I realized the root of the problem. In my experienced and educated opinion it is the Cultural OS, Society, tradition and sterotypical role models that created the problem in the first place.

I now have a child, I have choosen the mems of the more gentile parent to emulate, mother. My wife works, I stay at home because I am afraid to let my father (raised catholic) out of the box. It is the system, not the people that are broken. The churches (west) all use fear and guilt based control, the people use the same tactics to raise their children and their children the same to raise their children. ENOUGH ALREADY Go ahead and go God, but dump the books and dump the interpreter.

on a side note: use of anti depressents is up since 1990 by 800%, and I consider TV (which spreads the systems and culture) came out in 1950 , thats 40 years aka midlife, and is a major contributer to the missed expectations of the depressed.

Dump your conditioning, its the only way to save the planet (if your into the utopian thing)
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+1 OP

I cannot stand the way that men are portrayed on tv comedy. I find it very offensive & degrading. Commericals are the same way.
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turn off the TV
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I voted for the Crab People! I do not watch much television, so I do not even know what shows are on anymore.
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It works both ways, look at the female roles in I love lucy, the original star trek, etc.

Instead of encouraging people to be their best, it goes for cheap laughs.
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Agreed. There is an agenda. White males are all made to appear as bumbling and effeminate.

Raymond and King of Queens are some of the worst. Stupid white guys. The only black man on the show is portrayed as the stable, intelligent one.

Or just watch TV in the UK. Every tv commercial/advert has men dressed up like women, or some variation of the bumbling white male. Or men in their underwear. It just goes on and on.

Why anyone would find it humorous to see a man in a dress 25 times a day, I will never know.

It is so obvious programming for the masses. They dont call them "programs" for no reason.
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Agreed. There is an agenda. White males are all made to appear as bumbling and effeminate.

Raymond and King of Queens are some of the worst. Stupid white guys. The only black man on the show is portrayed as the stable, intelligent one.

Or just watch TV in the UK. Every tv commercial/advert has men dressed up like women, or some variation of the bumbling white male. Or men in their underwear. It just goes on and on.

Why anyone would find it humorous to see a man in a dress 25 times a day, I will never know.

It is so obvious programming for the masses. They dont call them "programs" for no reason.
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Thanks for the feedback, friend. Very interesting insight & comments.

It is so obvious programming for the masses. They dont call them "programs" for no reason.
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Damn. That's pretty clever. Props.
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turn off the TV
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I agree!
KILL YOUR TV NOW! IT IS HYPNOTIZING AND BRAINWASHING YOU! TURN IT OFF FOR GOOD!
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Lol and don't for get Archie Bunker in all in the Family :)

A long way from "leave it to beaver" or "my three sons"

1st transition (white pickett fence home typical middle class)
Leave it to Bever, My three sons

2nd transition (Womens Movement/Independent woman)
That Girl, Marlo Thomas and Marry Tyler More

3rd transition (the submissive wife - authoritarian father
To the attempt at equality in relationship
with meathead and his wife moving in)
Archie Bunker, all int the family.

4th transition (the single moms)and (merged families)
(Aka the divorced victim families due to the
Different movements of the 70s
Partridge Family and the Bradey Bunch, Family matters, One day at at Time and then later. and later 8 is enough

5th transition (the new mundane middle class) a long way from
my 3 sons or the beave.
Married with Children

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We can see The general middle class in the early years showed a have it together kind of man. Basically obedient children, clean cut image. All the way to the beer drinking pop with disobedient children watching boobs on the tv set. And the women calling the shots.

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Watch out for those Crab People, they are coming forya.
lol
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Dump your conditioning, its the only way to save the planet (if your into the utopian thing)
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HELL FUCKING YES.




I would dump my social conditioning if I could... but no matter what... the wankers in my social circle always want me to repat my c0nditiojing behavior....! qhtwtever...


if I could take a 750 mg dose of hydrabad psilocybine I would... to decondition myself... but I don't know whether that is in my cards...


drugs = awareness = awareness = detchmanet = detmachment = personal power = personal power = corperatre non-awareness...


:)


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It's because all TV shows are produced by Jews, a matriarchal society. The men are all weak, bossed around by their mothers and then their wives their entire lives.
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Watch out for those Crab People, they are coming forya.
lol
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:hide:
they are winning!
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How long will it take until people acknowledge the extent of this ridiculous situation and start to assess the damage it has done to gender relations and society overall?

Relentless negative stereotyping of males has been obvious to me for about twenty years but people are oblivious to it, they're desensitised to it.
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:tv:
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jacko



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Hmmmmmm....


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Hopefully it works...seems some smiles I have used are POW somewhere...dance

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YOU and your kind are the basis of those negative male stereotypes, Razrin.
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This is a tricky pole, I could have chosen a couple of possible answers.
Sitcoms create the framework that people follow in their lives. It attempts to set the boundaries of extreme behavior as well as point out which behavior is desirable.
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+1 OP

I cannot stand the way that men are portrayed on tv comedy. I find it very offensive & degrading. Commericals are the same way.
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It's blowback for all the years of portraying women as heartless shrewish golddiggers and bumbling idiots who also lied -- "Lucy, you got some 'splaining to do..."
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Now when we say "sitcom" we're supposed to be talking about comedy, which even back in Shakespeare's time was based on human foibles -- weaknesses which could be made to look funny. If the characters don't have such foibles, then the show won't be funny and would be an undramatic drama. Actually, I don't find many sitcoms funny at all anyway.
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Let's not pussy foot around the problem of this issue. It's the degenerate J3W influence people. I'm not talking zionist mumbo jumbo here, but the actual j3w and their religious doctrine from the Torah and Talmud that is behind what these people create in hollywood and the media. Period. They are all sick sick people that have done everything possible to hone their craft, ruining the thought processes of the young and dragging humanity into the gutter. Turn the TV off, stop watching these hollywood movies. Think for yourself, be creative, live and love well. Be a decent member of the human race and go with your gut instinct when you see or hear something on TV or radio that rubs you the wrong way. Is degrading others and 'put down comedy' what makes you happy? The answer is NO! Trust me it Isn't even if you think it is.





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