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Debunking Evolution: Problems, Errors, and Lies EXPOSED, in plain language for non-scientists

 
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i use to be with evolution side, with modern tech now, we can look at the dna better. the experts suggest that our evolution does not show up on the dna, if anything we de- evolved. also i do believe the lie of this reality is bigger than we ever thought, evolution debate is just the scratch of the surface.
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It just takes one success, and God has millions and millions of years to work with.
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Why would God need millions of years to create something, I thought he had ultimate power and could create everything in one minute?
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Yeah, it's so bizarre that people who have biology degrees don't wander into a forum where people claim we never landed on the moon and that the earth is flat half the time do debate the finer points of evolution.

Even now I'm thinking about stepping into this thread... but really, why? Nothing I say is going to convince you otherwise. You're not going to accept any evidence unless I take a fruit fly, wave a magic wand, and it becomes a giraffe.
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Don't even try to compare people who believe the Earth is flat with people who believe the moon landing is a hoax and evolution is bullshit.

I personally believe the same people behind the support of the moonlanding and evolution as fact are the same ones promoting the flat earth bullshit ,I'd bet my last dollar on it.

A person who believes the Earth is flat has everything in common with someone who believes in evolution, they both ignore all of the scientific evidence.
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OP is basically saying that genetic mutations are impossible. That's his whole argument to "debunk" evolution.

If genetic mutations exist, then evolution is a fact, because a small percentage of those mutations will be beneficial and they will be passed on to future generations. An accumulation of new, beneficial genetic mutations over a very long period of time can lead to a new species. (This is a very basic premise of Evolutionary Theory).

This article talks about beneficial mutations in humans:
[link to bigthink.com]

1. Does Natural Selection exist? Yes.
2. Do beneficial mutations exist? Yes.

How can you say evolution does not exist, when these two key components are what make up the evolutionary process?

If you agree that both exist, then by default you have to admit that evolution is real because that's what evolution IS. Evolution is the process where Natural Selection weeds out less favorable genes, and the more favorable genes get passed on to future generations. Beneficial genetic mutations can add new, favorable genes to the gene pool.

Why is this so difficult to understand?
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Give me one hundred examples of new positive mutations in any organism.

I will be patiently waiting.
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The link I posted before already mentioned a couple:

[link to bigthink.com]

Our DNA is littered with hundreds of beneficial mutations, compared to our closest primate relative, the chimpanzee.

If you can give me one hundred examples of evidence that God exists, I'll be patiently waiting for that too buddy!

I'm not a human ecnyclopedia, obviously, but if you've ever read any books written by scientists on evolution, which I am quite sure you have not, you would probably have a better understanding of how it works.

I'll recoomend two off the top of my head:

"The Moral Animal" by Robert Wright
"Why Evolution is True" by Jerry Coyne

Please read up and know fully what evolution entails before trying to attack it.
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i use to be with evolution side, with modern tech now, we can look at the dna better. the experts suggest that our evolution does not show up on the dna, if anything we de- evolved. also i do believe the lie of this reality is bigger than we ever thought, evolution debate is just the scratch of the surface.
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Evolution is a lie of The Enemy.

It entirely discounts God, and implies that we're not His children, but accidents randomly here by nothing more sentient but chance.

It's one of the greatest lies ever perpetrated... it reduces humans to animal status and gives way to abominations such as abortion.

After all, who's going to stand up for a murdered "zygote"?

Zygote??

What the hell is that?

It's not a person, right?

It's the basis and justification for all inhuman evil extant in the world today.
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If you think a good, righteous God did in fact create everything, then can you please explain why...

Why did God create mosquitoes?
(Their only purpose is to leech off the blood of mammals, like humans for instance).

Why did God create parasites, like tapeworms?

Why did God create tyhpoid?

Why did God create Ebola?

Why did God create flesh-eating bacteria?

Why did 99% of God's species go extinct?
(Dinosaurs and Woolly Mammoths for instance)

Why did God decide to create living organisms on a planet that is exposed to so many extinction level events?

Why did God create Whales with leg bones (vestigial parts) that serve no purpose?

Why did God create Giraffes with an unnecessarily long laryngeal nerve that starts in its head, winds back down to its heart, and then winds all the way back up its neck? (e.g. non-intelligent design)
-This particular organ in Giraffes supports the idea of evolutionary change but does not support the idea of intelligent design.
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If you think a good, righteous God did in fact create everything, then can you please explain why...

Why did God create mosquitoes?
(Their only purpose is to leech off the blood of mammals, like humans for instance).

Why did God create parasites, like tapeworms?

Why did God create tyhpoid?

Why did God create Ebola?

Why did God create flesh-eating bacteria?

Why did 99% of God's species go extinct?
(Dinosaurs and Woolly Mammoths for instance)

Why did God decide to create living organisms on a planet that is exposed to so many extinction level events?

Why did God create Whales with leg bones (vestigial parts) that serve no purpose?

Why did God create Giraffes with an unnecessarily long laryngeal nerve that starts in its head, winds back down to its heart, and then winds all the way back up its neck? (e.g. non-intelligent design)
-This particular organ in Giraffes supports the idea of evolutionary change but does not support the idea of intelligent design.
Video -

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Ask Him.

I don't, and don't have the capacity to speak for God.

You'll meet Him at your last breath... ask Him.
I am a Christian.

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TRUMP 2020

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Ask Him.

I don't, and don't have the capacity to speak for God.

You'll meet Him at your last breath... ask Him.
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Thanks for proving my point.
You don't know God.

If you don't know God, how can you believe that God even exists?
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great info. five stars. how did I miss this for the last 4 years???
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Ask Him.

I don't, and don't have the capacity to speak for God.

You'll meet Him at your last breath... ask Him.
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Thanks for proving my point.
You don't know God.

If you don't know God, how can you believe that God even exists?
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Do I know Him personally?

Of course not... no man does.

But I *do* know His Son, and have been absolutely blessed throughout my life with ample evidence of His existence, for whatever reason He deemed me worthy of that knowledge.

Thread: Have you ever witnessed a Miracle? I have, more than once. Post it here, if so. I'll start...
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Do I know Him personally?

Of course not... no man does.

But I *do* know His Son, and have been absolutely blessed throughout my life with ample evidence of His existence, for whatever reason He deemed me worthy of that knowledge.

Thread: Have you ever witnessed a Miracle? I have, more than once. Post it here, if so. I'll start...
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A hindu or muslim could claim they were blessed by Allah or Krishna. They also claim miracles as well.

So what's the difference between Hindus, Muslims, and Christians in this regard?
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So ... let me see ... everybody who doesn't agree with the OP gets a nice insulting little graphic! ...

Yup, that makes my point right there.

Bullshit thread.
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If you think a good, righteous God did in fact create everything, then can you please explain why...

Why did God create mosquitoes?
(Their only purpose is to leech off the blood of mammals, like humans for instance).

Why did God create parasites, like tapeworms?

Why did God create tyhpoid?

Why did God create Ebola?

Why did God create flesh-eating bacteria?

Why did 99% of God's species go extinct?
(Dinosaurs and Woolly Mammoths for instance)

Why did God decide to create living organisms on a planet that is exposed to so many extinction level events?

Why did God create Whales with leg bones (vestigial parts) that serve no purpose?

Why did God create Giraffes with an unnecessarily long laryngeal nerve that starts in its head, winds back down to its heart, and then winds all the way back up its neck? (e.g. non-intelligent design)
-This particular organ in Giraffes supports the idea of evolutionary change but does not support the idea of intelligent design.
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Why did god create water?

People drown in water.

So there's no god.

Love your closemindedness, I'll make a prayer for you.
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More random examples of positive mutation I found after 2 seconds of googleing.

[link to www.gate.net]

And yeah, you can keep explaining them away as things like "It's just an on/off switch" or "HIV was made by the government (AS if that is at all relevant to the idea of adaption to resist it.) if you want. You can explain away anything you want as long as you try hard enough. Maybe the planets don't rotate around the sun, maybe they just fly in crazy patterns and double back on themselves randomly as they rotate the earth? You can't prove that's untrue, just that it's unlikely.

The fact is, Mutations can be beneficial, and that's all evolution is. You divide species but ultimately we're all built of the same building blocks, carbon, water, ext. The only difference is how we're assembled. All Species are is comparing how distantly related we are to eachother.
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OP is basically saying that genetic mutations are impossible. That's his whole argument to "debunk" evolution.

If genetic mutations exist, then evolution is a fact, because a small percentage of those mutations will be beneficial and they will be passed on to future generations. An accumulation of new, beneficial genetic mutations over a very long period of time can lead to a new species. (This is a very basic premise of Evolutionary Theory).

This article talks about beneficial mutations in humans:
[link to bigthink.com]

1. Does Natural Selection exist? Yes.
2. Do beneficial mutations exist? Yes.

How can you say evolution does not exist, when these two key components are what make up the evolutionary process?

If you agree that both exist, then by default you have to admit that evolution is real because that's what evolution IS. Evolution is the process where Natural Selection weeds out less favorable genes, and the more favorable genes get passed on to future generations. Beneficial genetic mutations can add new, favorable genes to the gene pool.

Why is this so difficult to understand?
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Give me one hundred examples of new positive mutations in any organism.

I will be patiently waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69581038


The link I posted before already mentioned a couple:

[link to bigthink.com]

Our DNA is littered with hundreds of beneficial mutations, compared to our closest primate relative, the chimpanzee.

If you can give me one hundred examples of evidence that God exists, I'll be patiently waiting for that too buddy!

I'm not a human ecnyclopedia, obviously, but if you've ever read any books written by scientists on evolution, which I am quite sure you have not, you would probably have a better understanding of how it works.

I'll recoomend two off the top of my head:

"The Moral Animal" by Robert Wright
"Why Evolution is True" by Jerry Coyne

Please read up and know fully what evolution entails before trying to attack it.
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How about every organism that has 'developed ;)' flight, actually has better design compared to our copied failures.

You are welcome.
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Why did god create water?

People drown in water.

So there's no god.

Love your closemindedness, I'll make a prayer for you.
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Water is necessary for life, yet tapeworms are not.

Poor example of debating. Try again.
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Why did god create water?

People drown in water.

So there's no god.

Love your closemindedness, I'll make a prayer for you.
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Water is necessary for life, yet tapeworms are not.

Poor example of debating. Try again.
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One could say that tapeworms are an inherently evil creature, since they serve no purpose other than to leech off mammals, causing injury or health issues to them.

Why would a just God create an evil creature?
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Do I know Him personally?

Of course not... no man does.

But I *do* know His Son, and have been absolutely blessed throughout my life with ample evidence of His existence, for whatever reason He deemed me worthy of that knowledge.

Thread: Have you ever witnessed a Miracle? I have, more than once. Post it here, if so. I'll start...
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


A hindu or muslim could claim they were blessed by Allah or Krishna. They also claim miracles as well.

So what's the difference between Hindus, Muslims, and Christians in this regard?
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It's in the book of Matthew: "By their fruits, you shall know them"

Hindus worship the demon Shiva... these are their fruits: [link to www.chinasmack.com]

A little more than backwards, no?

Muslims worship a pagan moon-god... also a demon.

Do I really need to post links to Muslim atrocities?

No... they're everywhere.

Also backward.

Christians worship the one true God... and despite the mistakes made by individuals and governments over time, it's this belief in God that has enabled and fostered the modern civilization you see today.
I am a Christian.

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If you think a good, righteous God did in fact create everything, then can you please explain why...

Why did God create mosquitoes?
(Their only purpose is to leech off the blood of mammals, like humans for instance).

Why did God create parasites, like tapeworms?

Why did God create tyhpoid?

Why did God create Ebola?

Why did God create flesh-eating bacteria?

Why did 99% of God's species go extinct?
(Dinosaurs and Woolly Mammoths for instance)

Why did God decide to create living organisms on a planet that is exposed to so many extinction level events?

Why did God create Whales with leg bones (vestigial parts) that serve no purpose?

Why did God create Giraffes with an unnecessarily long laryngeal nerve that starts in its head, winds back down to its heart, and then winds all the way back up its neck? (e.g. non-intelligent design)
-This particular organ in Giraffes supports the idea of evolutionary change but does not support the idea of intelligent design.
Video -

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Ask Him.

I don't, and don't have the capacity to speak for God.

You'll meet Him at your last breath... ask Him.
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That's a disappointing, cop-out non-answer to a very intelligent set of questions.

It seems to me that the "fruit fly" argument is illegitimate. The experiment was a very poor simulation of the vastly complex and probably incomprehensible variety of dynamics at play in nature. Environmental, social, cultural dynamics all can put pressure on a species to adapt to survive. Interactions with other coexistent species are another factor. You can't prove or disprove evolution based on what you can duplicate in a laboratory. To claim otherwise is silly and damages your credibility.

I think that as a species grows in complexity the chance of evolutionary leaps shrinks, in a manner of diminishing returns. The "need" to evolve is less and less as the species becomes better and better adapted to its environment. This could help to explain why evolution is not observed presently. In the infancy of life on this planet, evolution would occur in more varieties and with more frequency.

I am convinced of neither evolution nor creation, I don't see enough evidence for or against either. I think it's more likely that life arose and developed to what we observe today by means that we have yet to fully understand - there may be cosmic forces at play, either natural or supernatural, that promote "organization" of life in carbon-based forms, that are undiscovered.
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Darwin is liked by evolutionists because he liberated science from the straitjacket of observation and opened the door to storytellers. This gave professional evolutionists job security so they can wander through biology labs as if they belong there.


So true!!

Most sadly just never seem to even look at the evidence of the matter, on both sides of the issue. That sure is changing with the internet! The word is getting out!

DNA and these things are way too complex to have formed all by themselves.

People that believe this have more "faith" than a Christian.
To believe something so thoroughly impossible & laughable is truly "blind faith"...or just blindness.
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Why did god create water?

People drown in water.

So there's no god.

Love your closemindedness, I'll make a prayer for you.
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Water is necessary for life, yet tapeworms are not.

Poor example of debating. Try again.
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One could say that tapeworms are an inherently evil creature, since they serve no purpose other than to leech off mammals, causing injury or health issues to them.

Why would a just God create an evil creature?
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I'm so used to thinking of the natural world in terms of evolution it took me a moment to wrap my brain around what you were saying. Like, of course tapeworms exist because it's beneficial to tapeworms to exist. They don't care that they're harming other creatures any more then we do that we're eating dead cow.
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OP is basically saying that genetic mutations are impossible. That's his whole argument to "debunk" evolution.

If genetic mutations exist, then evolution is a fact, because a small percentage of those mutations will be beneficial and they will be passed on to future generations. An accumulation of new, beneficial genetic mutations over a very long period of time can lead to a new species. (This is a very basic premise of Evolutionary Theory).

This article talks about beneficial mutations in humans:
[link to bigthink.com]

1. Does Natural Selection exist? Yes.
2. Do beneficial mutations exist? Yes.

How can you say evolution does not exist, when these two key components are what make up the evolutionary process?

If you agree that both exist, then by default you have to admit that evolution is real because that's what evolution IS. Evolution is the process where Natural Selection weeds out less favorable genes, and the more favorable genes get passed on to future generations. Beneficial genetic mutations can add new, favorable genes to the gene pool.

Why is this so difficult to understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585



Give me one hundred examples of new positive mutations in any organism.

I will be patiently waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69581038


The link I posted before already mentioned a couple:

[link to bigthink.com]

Our DNA is littered with hundreds of beneficial mutations, compared to our closest primate relative, the chimpanzee.

If you can give me one hundred examples of evidence that God exists, I'll be patiently waiting for that too buddy!

I'm not a human ecnyclopedia, obviously, but if you've ever read any books written by scientists on evolution, which I am quite sure you have not, you would probably have a better understanding of how it works.

I'll recoomend two off the top of my head:

"The Moral Animal" by Robert Wright
"Why Evolution is True" by Jerry Coyne

Please read up and know fully what evolution entails before trying to attack it.
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How about every organism that has 'developed ;)' flight, actually has better design compared to our copied failures.

You are welcome.
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Use your imagination - creatures did not jump from walking to flying. Dinosaurs were very likely feathered. Those that could jump could reach additional food sources and avoid predators. The higher you could jump, the better. Then those that flapped their feathered forelimbs got even higher. Those who are intent on debunking evolution point to giant leaps between species that never happened. It's like the word game where you change one letter at a time to make one word into a completely different one - you must take baby steps.

I am not convinced that is what happened, but I at least have enough respect for the theorists. They are not as idiotic as you would make them out to be.
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If you think a good, righteous God did in fact create everything, then can you please explain why...

Why did God create mosquitoes?
(Their only purpose is to leech off the blood of mammals, like humans for instance).
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No, you missed their most important purpose, and that is to act as probably the most prolific disease vector on the planet. If it were not for mosquitoes there are many species which would overpower and destroy their habitat and the food chain would be disrupted. If you were to remove mosquitoes from environments where they are prevalent, the entire food chain could collapse.

Why did God create parasites, like tapeworms?
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This has as similar answer as above. Things need to be in a rather perfect balance for a given ecological niche to remain virile. If you were to remove tapeworms from the mix it would upset the predator/prey balance because tapeworms tend to occur in meat eating carnivores.

Why did God create tyhpoid?
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I believe specifically to limit human population since typhus is a disease that proliferates in crowded conditions and kills humans almost exclusively.


Why did God create Ebola?

Why did God create flesh-eating bacteria?
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Bacteria that eats flesh keeps dead things from piling up to out eyeballs. It is unlikely either ebola or the so called "superbugs" of flesh eating antibiotic bacteria would ever have manifested without human manipulation. When you expose an organism to a toxin like an antibiotic, a certain percentage THAT HAVE A NATURAL INBORN GENETIC RESISTANCE TO IT SURVIVE, and since only these survive the organism APPEARS to "mutat" into a antibiotic resistant strain. The resistant qualities were always there in these organisms, the antibiotics simply forced the organism to favor a certain part of its genome.

Why did 99% of God's species go extinct?
(Dinosaurs and Woolly Mammoths for instance)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585


Why don't you drive a model T instead of a computer controlled fuel efficient modern automobile? The automobile is a good analogue or metaphor of sorts to accurately describe "evolution" for what it really is. NO ONE involved in the automobile industry or engineering at all would deny automobiles (and technology in general) have evolved, but the mechanism of that evolution was not the vehicles changing themselves.

Why did God decide to create living organisms on a planet that is exposed to so many extinction level events?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585

I have a theory personally that this is one of the most biggest pieces of evidence of intelligent design that there is.Look where we are right now, the moral relativists and atheists have taken over and are teaching our children to hate the creator and do things that are highly harmful to themselves , we now have the capability to easily end all life on this planet and left unopposed I'm sure that segment of humanity that is inclined towards evil and unbridled ego without morality or true intellect would eventually destroy creation. But they're not going to get the chance.

This question also brings up one of the most compelling evidences of intelligent design, and that is the delicate self regulating balances that allow this planet to support life. if one thing of thousands gets to far out of whack the whole thing collapses, but somehow we go hundreds of millions of years between such collapses and they always seem to occur just about the time some group of species is becoming overly dominant and destroying the balance of nature..


Why did God create Whales with leg bones (vestigial parts) that serve no purpose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585

Why did cars have tail fins? Why do we have an appendix? Two simple questions, both are usually answered by the quotation that these additions are useless vestigial organs or embellishments, but in reality both of these things serve an actual, real function. With the tail fins the idea of course was to aerodynamically stabilize the vehicle, and there is no doubt it actually works. The appendix could serve any of several purposes but I will tell you this, it has a purpose or we wouldn't have one. because you or modern science does not know what the purpose is does not mean it doesn't have one. The flippers of whales are not evolved arms, they are flippers that utilized a previously existing design that works..

Why did God create Giraffes with an unnecessarily long laryngeal nerve that starts in its head, winds back down to its heart, and then winds all the way back up its neck? (e.g. non-intelligent design)
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I have always maintained that it take intelligence to perceive intelligence, and you are clearly not intelligent based on the idiotic questions along the atheist party line you have parroted. If you had a mind of your own you would not have asked some of these questions.

A giraffe seems to me to be designed to exploit food that would be out of reach to other mammals, allowing for a higher density of prey items for predators to consume and a well regulated fauna. The oddities of the Giraffes physiology and biological designs are neccessary due to it's long neck. I am not sure about the nerve connections you describe or if it is even accurate, but I do know that the longer a nerve pathway the more loss there is along it.






-This particular organ in Giraffes supports the idea of evolutionary change but does not support the idea of intelligent design.
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I simply do not agree, and just like everything else the evolution proponent does he seems to be workign towards proving the opposite of what he set out to. the Giraffe is actually an obviously intelligent design that allows it to exploit a food source out of reach to other animals. What you are suggesting is that intelligence is random and there is no order to ti and you are an idiot. As I have said a thousand times in the past , the most irrational idea I have ever heard postulated in science is the big bang theory and the spontaneous generation of life.
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If you think a good, righteous God did in fact create everything, then can you please explain why...

Why did God create mosquitoes?
(Their only purpose is to leech off the blood of mammals, like humans for instance).

Why did God create parasites, like tapeworms?

Why did God create tyhpoid?

Why did God create Ebola?

Why did God create flesh-eating bacteria?

Why did 99% of God's species go extinct?
(Dinosaurs and Woolly Mammoths for instance)

Why did God decide to create living organisms on a planet that is exposed to so many extinction level events?

Why did God create Whales with leg bones (vestigial parts) that serve no purpose?

Why did God create Giraffes with an unnecessarily long laryngeal nerve that starts in its head, winds back down to its heart, and then winds all the way back up its neck? (e.g. non-intelligent design)
-This particular organ in Giraffes supports the idea of evolutionary change but does not support the idea of intelligent design.
Video -

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Ask Him.

I don't, and don't have the capacity to speak for God.

You'll meet Him at your last breath... ask Him.
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That's a disappointing, cop-out non-answer to a very intelligent set of questions.

It seems to me that the "fruit fly" argument is illegitimate. The experiment was a very poor simulation of the vastly complex and probably incomprehensible variety of dynamics at play in nature. Environmental, social, cultural dynamics all can put pressure on a species to adapt to survive. Interactions with other coexistent species are another factor. You can't prove or disprove evolution based on what you can duplicate in a laboratory. To claim otherwise is silly and damages your credibility.

I think that as a species grows in complexity the chance of evolutionary leaps shrinks, in a manner of diminishing returns. The "need" to evolve is less and less as the species becomes better and better adapted to its environment. This could help to explain why evolution is not observed presently. In the infancy of life on this planet, evolution would occur in more varieties and with more frequency.

I am convinced of neither evolution nor creation, I don't see enough evidence for or against either. I think it's more likely that life arose and developed to what we observe today by means that we have yet to fully understand - there may be cosmic forces at play, either natural or supernatural, that promote "organization" of life in carbon-based forms, that are undiscovered.
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My answer to "why did God" do this or that is disappointing to you?

Sorry, but I don't speak for Him.

How is that answer any different than one I might provide for "Why did Idi Amin do what he did"?

How should I know? Idi was just a man... and I can't speak for him, why should I be able to speak for our Creator?

Ask Him when you meet Him.
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If you think a good, righteous God did in fact create everything, then can you please explain why...

Why did God create mosquitoes?
(Their only purpose is to leech off the blood of mammals, like humans for instance).
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No, you missed their most important purpose, and that is to act as probably the most prolific disease vector on the planet. If it were not for mosquitoes there are many species which would overpower and destroy their habitat and the food chain would be disrupted. If you were to remove mosquitoes from environments where they are prevalent, the entire food chain could collapse.

Why did God create parasites, like tapeworms?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585

This has as similar answer as above. Things need to be in a rather perfect balance for a given ecological niche to remain virile. If you were to remove tapeworms from the mix it would upset the predator/prey balance because tapeworms tend to occur in meat eating carnivores.

Why did God create tyhpoid?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585


I believe specifically to limit human population since typhus is a disease that proliferates in crowded conditions and kills humans almost exclusively.


Why did God create Ebola?

Why did God create flesh-eating bacteria?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585


Bacteria that eats flesh keeps dead things from piling up to out eyeballs. It is unlikely either ebola or the so called "superbugs" of flesh eating antibiotic bacteria would ever have manifested without human manipulation. When you expose an organism to a toxin like an antibiotic, a certain percentage THAT HAVE A NATURAL INBORN GENETIC RESISTANCE TO IT SURVIVE, and since only these survive the organism APPEARS to "mutat" into a antibiotic resistant strain. The resistant qualities were always there in these organisms, the antibiotics simply forced the organism to favor a certain part of its genome.

Why did 99% of God's species go extinct?
(Dinosaurs and Woolly Mammoths for instance)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585


Why don't you drive a model T instead of a computer controlled fuel efficient modern automobile? The automobile is a good analogue or metaphor of sorts to accurately describe "evolution" for what it really is. NO ONE involved in the automobile industry or engineering at all would deny automobiles (and technology in general) have evolved, but the mechanism of that evolution was not the vehicles changing themselves.

Why did God decide to create living organisms on a planet that is exposed to so many extinction level events?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585

I have a theory personally that this is one of the most biggest pieces of evidence of intelligent design that there is.Look where we are right now, the moral relativists and atheists have taken over and are teaching our children to hate the creator and do things that are highly harmful to themselves , we now have the capability to easily end all life on this planet and left unopposed I'm sure that segment of humanity that is inclined towards evil and unbridled ego without morality or true intellect would eventually destroy creation. But they're not going to get the chance.

This question also brings up one of the most compelling evidences of intelligent design, and that is the delicate self regulating balances that allow this planet to support life. if one thing of thousands gets to far out of whack the whole thing collapses, but somehow we go hundreds of millions of years between such collapses and they always seem to occur just about the time some group of species is becoming overly dominant and destroying the balance of nature..


Why did God create Whales with leg bones (vestigial parts) that serve no purpose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585

Why did cars have tail fins? Why do we have an appendix? Two simple questions, both are usually answered by the quotation that these additions are useless vestigial organs or embellishments, but in reality both of these things serve an actual, real function. With the tail fins the idea of course was to aerodynamically stabilize the vehicle, and there is no doubt it actually works. The appendix could serve any of several purposes but I will tell you this, it has a purpose or we wouldn't have one. because you or modern science does not know what the purpose is does not mean it doesn't have one. The flippers of whales are not evolved arms, they are flippers that utilized a previously existing design that works..

Why did God create Giraffes with an unnecessarily long laryngeal nerve that starts in its head, winds back down to its heart, and then winds all the way back up its neck? (e.g. non-intelligent design)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585


I have always maintained that it take intelligence to perceive intelligence, and you are clearly not intelligent based on the idiotic questions along the atheist party line you have parroted. If you had a mind of your own you would not have asked some of these questions.

A giraffe seems to me to be designed to exploit food that would be out of reach to other mammals, allowing for a higher density of prey items for predators to consume and a well regulated fauna. The oddities of the Giraffes physiology and biological designs are neccessary due to it's long neck. I am not sure about the nerve connections you describe or if it is even accurate, but I do know that the longer a nerve pathway the more loss there is along it.






-This particular organ in Giraffes supports the idea of evolutionary change but does not support the idea of intelligent design.
Video -

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68771585

I simply do not agree, and just like everything else the evolution proponent does he seems to be workign towards proving the opposite of what he set out to. the Giraffe is actually an obviously intelligent design that allows it to exploit a food source out of reach to other animals. What you are suggesting is that intelligence is random and there is no order to ti and you are an idiot. As I have said a thousand times in the past , the most irrational idea I have ever heard postulated in science is the big bang theory and the spontaneous generation of life.
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GREAT POST!

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Ever so CONTINUED below....
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So happy you cited this important take on evolution. Micro evolution is indeed in line with Creationism, macro evolution is total nonsense. God bless & well done.
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Wrong.

Each after his kind...

I am not related to a fruit fly, or a marmoset.
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