Al Bielek talks about the Wingmakers - Al was apart of the Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk Project

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

Yes, the heavens gate cult believed there was a space ship in the tail of the hale bop comet, and there really was! They were right all along! Too bad it was a reptilian ship filled with Draconians. The heavens gate people killed themselves believing they would be rescued by a group of benevolent space ETs, when in truth they were being mind controled by a highly manipulative group of negative carnivorous creatures.

Be careful who you trust and remember that victim energies of all kinds have a bad habit of attracting evil entities that play off those feelings.

In this fantasy world of smoke and mirrors, only our feelings can give us a clear picture of whats going on around us.

Trust your feelings when gaining impressions of things around you, but also remain causal and observant of the feelings that can feed others of a negative nature. When you gain full mastery of your own feelings, you will be able to directly percieve of how some feelings drive the ambitions of predatory entities. Its a type of fuel, that can give a false sense of power to those that play off these feelings. The true power lies with those that create radiant emotion, and not with those that can not radiate emotion, but can only feed off of the emotion of others.

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GS11,

that link you gave makes a good effort to smear the wingmakers and Al Bielek, but it will take a little more than that to seed a doubt within me. Probably it was made to steer those that were on the fence and easily influenced.

You nailed it.

768048,

Thanks.

One thing that interested me a lot about what Al Bielek says, is the zero point time reference device that Nikola Tesla invented. This device locks onto the center of our galaxy and locks into a kind of galactic time reference that is centered at the center of our galaxy. How it does this, no one knows but Tesla figured it out.

One last thing of interest, from Preston Nickols Second Montauk book. Mention is given of how transistors were given to american companies by the Greys. Transistors are an alien technology and in an early government report that Preston has, transistors are first called Crystal Valves.

As a boy working with simple electronic circuits, I could never understand exactly how a transistor really works, no matter who I asked. The function is described but the actual mechanism behind it, is not as far as I know, and now I have new insight into why that may be.

The Day After Roswell by Phillip Corso also mentions the seeded alien technology. Corso worked at the pentagon and was put in charge of assessing various alien artifacts from crashed discs. He was meant to prescribe functions and allocate where to seed the new technologies into various US industries.

Great thread. Alot of youtubes related to his interviews.

He mentioned there are 18 miles of underground documents under the Vatican. Goes all the way back to Atlantis.



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If you read the whole article you would see that Mark Hempel upholds the ideology of the Wingmakers website. He answered questions and there was a hoaxy sidenote to each one of his answers.

Wingmakers website is a teaching tool from the ancestors from the Central Race and one could surmise it is our ancestors who have traveled further into the future. How could even that be disputed as past present and future out of this realm is one and the same?

I have read Wingmakers also for 10 yrs and the material is not like anything else. Its Lyricus teachings are uplifting and not at all hoaxy. The story of Dr. Neruda is based probably on fact but is presented as fiction because lets face it, truth is stranger than fiction. It resonates with millions of people who have read it over the years. We all can't be that wrong with our soul connections to what is innately familiar.

All Mark Hempel said about Al Bielek is that that particular website has no connection to him. Who is to say, Al never experienced the knowledge of Wingmakers in the future? James, the Creator has added much info over the years and it was said in the beginning that the project would take many years, information would be piece by piece given to us as time marched on. As we approached a higher level of consciousness.

Ontop of which, there are many sites besides the Ancient Arrow project that will be revealed as we can handle it. I suspect this site was experiential to see how our little pea brains would assimilate it. I think for 10 yrs it has continued because many of us have advanced our thinking. It is not material to be spit upon.

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This was the first time I had heard about the Wingmakers. I've gotta say, holy crap. Interesting reading

AND SO IT BEGINS lol

Thanks Sirius One!

yes, I remember Al mention that about the Vatican but forgot about it. I have listened to all 14 hours of audio on Al, but tend to forget easily. :) I wish I had a memory like Als, that could pin point everything in near perfect detail. He can see Auras too and I have talked and read of a number of other people who can do the same.

Al Bielek is the real deal in my opinion and his insight is amazing at times.

768486

My mind was blown the first time I came across the wingmakers site many years ago. It was an interesting and incredible story, but unfortunately its incomplete. As fate would have it, I feel there is another destiny in store for me rather than hanging around this planet for 7 hundred more years and waiting for the final chapters of the wingmakers story to be written. :-)

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Very interesting!Thankyou for this!

Greetings ISIS,

You are almost absolutely right. Let's see:
1) we are not alone
- Human beings have never been alone

2) we have guardians and guidance if we decide to follow this journey. They are always watching us and we can always contact with them..through the most advanced form of communication : telepathy
- We can connect to our inner soul connection to GOD and its (GOD is not a being) infinite number of "radiated entities" by praying with "true confidence".

3) we have a purpose, and that purpose is noble
- ALL creatures have an ultimate purpose, which is to evolve, multiply, and coexist naturally with all other creations, including their environment.

4) we are special (we always know it deep inside, but we never realize it)
- Human beings in general are NOT special in the sense you are referring to it. ALL sensitive intelligent beings are special! This includes millions of species and excludes hundreds of millions of human beings as well.

5) we must look inside..to find the answers
- Almost there. We must look inside AND to ALL outside to find the reasons of our questions - and their answers.

6) we must love ourselves first, to be whole
- WRONG. We must love GOD first, in order to truly understand how it IS/WAS/WILL BE everything that existed, exists, and may exist.

May God brighten your path and allow you to keep always learning and loving its light,

High Apprentice

Greetings Illuminating Light,

I have read Corso a long time ago, and about 75% of its book is very close to reality, but 25% of it is pure speculation and very far from the truth.

Do NOT take it as your guiding beacon or you will get in trouble - unecessarily.

May God protect guide you,
High Apprentice

Excellent thread.

Mmmmmm, hang on a sec. I hate to spoil the party, but ...

No reptilians? What about all the stone statues, clay tablets, artwork? Were people with overactive imaginations just making all that stuff up and taking the time to draw it, chisel it, write about it just for the heck of it?

What about the R-complex part of our brain? Lymph system? Fight or flight reactions? Scaling and wrinkly skin? How did humans get reptilian physical components? Oh, that's right. They're bullshit.

Cynicalabsurdance, methinks you're wrong and probably not who you say and/or you're dicking with these good people.

And gus - 1943 the beginning of the UFO phenomena?

Why did Queen Elizabeth establish Torchwood in the late 1800's to investigate the UFO's being spotted? And Ezekiel's wheel? And the many, many other UFO references, worldwide, since almost the beginning of time? Cave paintings with astronauts in suits and helmets?

Thanks GS11. I was hunting for that Wingmakers debunking info - just saw it recently - was disappointed but glad I found out. I KNEW there's no Santa Claus. Wah!

Postman

I can't find the link I saw about 2 yrs ago giving the whole nonfictional Torchwood rundown. In today's search, I did find these, and there's probably more out there - just don't have time right now.


[link to www.visittorchwood.co.uk]

Welcome to Torchwood House

Torchwood House is one of Scotland's achitectural treasures. Owned by the MacLeish family since the 1500s, it was purchased by the Crown in 1893.

Famed for its beautiful grounds and stunning Observatory, the house was opened to the public in 1981. A real jewel of the Highlands, it has received over a million visitors since opening.

Welcome to Torchwood House. We hope you enjoy your visit.


[link to www.visittorchwood.co.uk]

"In the year of our Lord 1540, under the reign of King James the Fifth... an almighty fire did burn in the pit."

In October, 1540, the monks at the Glen of Saint Catherine Monastery were going about their daily business. A simple diet of haggis and water, prayers, a vow of silence, charity work. Little did they know that their lives were about to change forever! Nobody knows for certain what fell to Earth on that fateful night. Was it a meteorite or something... worse?

Locals reported a burning light, falling with an unearthly glow into a nearby field. The next morning, when an inquisitive farmer went to investigate, he discovered that the earth was scorched blacker than the blackest night but of the falling star there was no sign. Word among the glens was that the monks had taken the star back to their monastery. Certainly the order seems to have become reclusive from this date. What had they discovered?

This is copyrighted - go to the link for more.



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Fact or Fiction? Looks like the two lines blur - a lot.

The History of Torchwood
Defending the British Empire!
From the end of the 19th Century in Highlands of Scotland to Modern day Cardiff:

Personally founded by Her Imperial Majesty Queen Victoria to protect the British Empire from forces beyond the normal, from the realm of shadows, the stars and the supernatural.

Created at the Torchwood Estate in the Highlands of Scotland following Her Majesty's encounter with a werewolf there. A stranger called the Doctor and his companion Rose were pivotal in saving her life, but she felt their ways of doing so were an affront to all that was right and proper.

Her Majesty determined that if any such forces were to attack again, the Empire would be ready for them.

So the Torchwood Institute was formed, apart from the Government, with carte blanche and unlimited funds to ensure that any and all alien incursions were handled and any technology appropriated for the good of the Empire.

There are four known Torchwood locations;

Torchwood 1 - Located in London, located in the Torchwood Tower, known to the rest of the world as Canary Wharf (or more properly One Canada Square). It was the core of the organisation until their own arrogance led to the "Army of Ghosts" affair and the brief but catastrophic Dalek and Cyberman war. It seems to have been abandoned.

Torchwood 2 - Located in Glasgow, and all that is known is that it a very strange man works there. (Given Torchwoods apparent tolerance of quirks, that must REALLY be saying something)

Torchwood 3 - Located under Roald Dahl Plass in the centre of Cardiff and also known as "The Hub". This is the focus of the Torchwood series. It is relatively small, and has a very small staff, especially compared to Torchwood 1 luxurious accomodation. It is accessed either through a small Tourist Information Centre nearby, which exists purely as a cover for Torchwood, or via a lift which runs up to the Plass, which may seem unduly obvious except for the fact that anyone standing on that particular point is invisible to passers-by, which has been ascribed to the imprint of a device with a chameleon circuit landing there (A reference to the Doctor Who story "Boom Town").

Torchwood 4 - nothing more is known of this location than that it is currently "missing", whatever that might mean.



[link to www.shannonsullivan.com]

The Torchwood Institute was created in 1879 by order of Queen Victoria. Its mission: to safeguard the British Isles from extraterrestrial incursion, and to acquire alien technology for the benefit of the Empire.

Despite its apparent destruction in modern times, something of Torchwood has survived, and continues to operate in Cardiff on the site of a rift in time and space, the existence of which dates back more than a century.

Its stories are told in Torchwood, a new Doctor Who spin-off which debuted in October 2006.

Yes, Illuminating, you have certainly scoped some deeply mystic material at your young age. ( alas, I started metaphysics close to that time as well ) Wingmakers has layers of information and awakenings. Allow yourself not just to read it but to experience each piece of reading, poetry, visuals in stages. I have. Further, you may sense that there is more, and there is. Our mission on Earth is not entirely about that. I often wonder if we enter a 5th or 6th density of Earth after we die physically. Like the Lemurians at Mt. Shasta. I had this wondering long before this incident: a dear friend, male, was dying this month. Before he took his last breath, some hours before, he gave specific instructions to his wife to go to Mt. Shasta. He had sort of awakened between his deep sleeps. Something tells us, this is a home rest stop for him. ( Read the Telos books 1-3 by Aurelia Louise Jones, at mt.shasta light publishing). The dying man hadn't been to Mt. Shasta in years. Now his wife is urged to go, again for unknown reasons.

I think there are so many sacred vortexes and centers all over the place that we have to open our eyes and suspend our disbeliefs to follow the trail when we can.

Seems like he should have became very wealthy.... if you think about it... he would have know to INVEST in Apple and Microsoft... is he wealthy.

Agreed

Very interesting read IL. Thanks for posting this thread.

Bielek has a mouth full of horse shit.

Why do you say that?

He's a liar.

His stuff about the Philadelphia Experiment was pure hogwash and he's been caught telling lies about his alleged involvment in this event.

The Wingmakers stuff is more fanciful nonsense with no basis in reality. It has been debunked numerous times.

The Mind is a glorious thing. It can store knowledge, imprints and episodes without ever bringing it into consciousness. Mind is vast and one with all, in its quantum state.

That said, Al Bielek was a pawn used by the government in the Montauk Projects and his mind was filled with a vast amount of information. Stuff we have never known. When he was downloaded and they had no use for him anymore, he started remembering stuff. I for one, will not label it horseshit. I will listen and discern this information because all things hidden always have curves and gulleys and hiding places. He spits out pieces of his information that you see in videos and read in interviews. I feel compassion for his tormented life but like a computer chip, he had storage. ( R.I.P. 2007).

It would be, I think, a wise thing to listen to the pieces and make your own sense of it. Stewart Swerdlow and the many other mind controlled victims that fought the process, got de-programmed best they could and came out to speak out about the evil of it, need your compassion and listening as well.

This is a very good perspective, and I believe we can all benefit from such philosophy.

Dr Postman,

I understand your concern and will do my best not to post any copy righted material again. It is a shame however that much of the very best material on the truth is copyrighted and or censored and absent from the public arena. It is my feeling that the avid truth seeker must use all methods at his/her disposal to obtain the truth including such places as pirate bay.

The evolution of the internet is about the free exchange of information, and those of us that thirst the most for awareness of our world, will have to go increasingly covert I think in the coming years, if not already.

peace,

IL

This may be of interest to your research.

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"You will know me simply as Emit Rekkert. I am from your future, specifically the year 2746 sent by the Wingmaker ambassadors."

In the era I am from, we are governed by, for lack of a better word, computers. These are computers much advanced than the ones you are familiar with. They were "programmed" by the Elders of the Wingmakers. The word "Wingmakers" is simply the closest term we can come up with to denote the fact that they are "makers of that which flies or floats among the multiverses".

The Wingmakers are the Elders who have created the computer that governs the planet. It is not the nightmare device that some of you imagine although it does determine what sanctions will be placed on those who do not contribute to society. There is no money in our society and everyone contributes what they are capable of and receive what they need and want. It is communism without the tyrants who govern it. It is not perfect, but it is as fair as is possible. The Wingmakers are very advanced souls that truly love humanity and want to see us advance to our ultimate destiny. I suppose you could call them our spiritual monitors and guides as well as leaders.

The awakening, as you call it, is what is happening now... ever so slowly but accelerating. Humanity everywhere is beginning to awaken spiritually and is beginning to learn who they really are. Your body was fashioned many thousands of years ago by genetic scientists from another multiverse system. They were worshipped as gods until they left. The good news is that they are returning. A group of entities from a star system in the constellation Draco came here about 50,000 years ago and enslaved most of the humans until a cataclysm occurred and forced them underground. They remained there till this juncture in time. You call them "reptilians". They have been at war against the Elders, the ones who created you, for thousands of years. What you call planet X is really the Elders returning. I am prohibited in saying more about this but the discerning heart knows.
The awakening will culminate in 2012 during the Harvest event I mentioned earlier. Jesus mentions this event in what you call the new testament.

Stock up on food and water but more important it is that you become attuned to nature and the quantum field. You will have to rely upon new found gifts of a sixth sense to guide you through.

The Wingmakers left some of their art and music around the planet, like time capsules from the future, for various purposes of which I am not permitted to detail. I can say this; music will evolve into a drug! There is music I have heard that would put you into a mental state of pure ecstasy! You would never want it to stop. There will be music that will alter your consciousness in deeper and safer ways than certain herbs and roots and mushrooms do in this era.

My (Sharon typing) understandings regarding the Wingmakers from his era came soley from Emit. He said they were the ones who in effect "programmed" the crystalline computers that rule the planet. The Wingmakers are an advanced race that were genetically made perfect in the sense that they are not only physically perfect but have had all the negative attributes of humanity eliminated such as greed and lust. They are the next step in our evolution toward perfection. If that sounds confusing then just remember that perfection is not a state of being but rather a state of "becoming".

My understanding in talking to Emit is that, while the Wingmakers were highly advanced spiritually were none the less, less than even the lowest ascended master beings of eternal light. They are not gods seeking worship.