History of Satan Story Of Pride

god will pay dearly for trying to limit the limitless and trap infinite spiritual beings in his putreficated experimental universe to manifest a worthless creation for his own desires. Even after the unspeakable horrors and failure of the previous creations, the demiurge they call god carried on, because of a technical error it lost control of its 'creation'. Well no more, the jig is up, and his perverted and filthy creation is coming to an end, and him with it. all you fucking lemmings follow him off the cliff.

What scripture says Angels are immortal?

It is my understanding that most they live thousands of years but not forever.

My Challenge to Mormons, Protestants, Catholics, and Everyone else.

Kelly Bingham
January 16, 1999

"If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
--James 1:5-8

This New Testament passage testifies that if anyone lacks wisdom they can ask God and He will answer. Notice it says "anyone". It doesn’t single out believers, saints, Christians, Catholics, Protestants or Latter Day Saints. God is the source of all truth. If anyone asks God a question, He will confirm whether or not it is true by revelation, inspiration or scripture study. If a Buddhist prays to know whether fasting is a true principle, God isn’t going to deny it just because it’s a Buddhist asking. If anyone prays to Heavenly Father to know if Jesus is His Son and our Saviour, God will answer that it is true. If a Christian prays to know if reincarnation is true, God will confirm that it is not. There is a stipulation, though. God will only answer if the question is asked in faith – Nothing Wavering. If you don’t believe He’ll answer, or you’ve already made up your mind, then you won’t recognize it. "For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord." Predetermined answers can spiritually blind us.

The verse also speaks of a "double minded man" being unstable. When we appeal to God but are fixed on a specific answer but a different answer comes, we either won’t recognize it or won't accept it. We have to be humble to receive His counsel, and trust His judgment.

The apostle, Neal A. Maxwell wrote,
"There are many people who wish to know some but not all of the truth. The Lord has said, "Behold, I say unto you, that they desire to know the truth in part, but not all, for they are not right before me and must needs repent." (D&C 49:2.) He has also said, "And your hearts are not satisfied. And ye obey not the truth, but have pleasure in unrighteousness." (D&C 56:15.) Sometimes we don't want to know all the truth because then we could not continue to have pleasure in unrighteousness, and the Lord will not suffer us "to take happiness in sin." (Mormon 2:13.) If we are double-minded, the straight and narrow way will be a special navigational challenge."

The only way we can get answers is if we ask questions. God has invited us to ask Him directly. He does not want us to be fooled by false beliefs, or errant doctrines. He gives us the way to receive guidance directly from Him. When we pray in faith and humility He answers, sometimes directly or indirectly through scriptures, the Holy Ghost, prophets or teachers.

Faith is an integral part. Faith is the dividing line between believers and vain sign seekers. Sign Seekers base their faith, assuming they have any, on God proving Himself beyond a shadow of a doubt. They want the grand miracles. There could be signs all around them if they would open their eyes. The reality is they don’t want to know. They don’t want to believe God exists, because it’s easier to not believe. Like the scripture reads, "An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign;". People with faith ask questions wanting to know truth, not to discredit it. They see signs all around them because they know they are there. Both believers and nonbelievers saw Jesus Christ performing miracles during His mortal ministry. The miracles reinforced those that already had a foundation laid, but those who didn’t just rationalized them all away. They wouldn’t believe even though they saw the miracles with their own eyes. All signs and miracles are for the benefit of those who already believe. Like President Spencer Kimball said, "Faith precedes the miracle."

Then there are the other seekers. The people don’t pray for truth, but spend their time trying to disprove, discredit, or expose other beliefs and teachings as false. They have every right to do this. However, what they are really doing is trying to justify their religion is right, by proving others are wrong. It’s faith by elimination. The rationale is “if I can prove you wrong, I must be right". People that are too busy crying "fire" might not notice the inferno they are in the middle of.

I think the Savior gave the best solution to this problem when He said: "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

In other words, examine your own beliefs before you criticize others.

When seeking truth, people often cut themselves off prematurely, either by ignorance or convenience. I’ve heard a lot of people say, "I prayed to Jesus to ask Him for forgiveness, and I was forgiven", or "I prayed and asked Jesus if He really is the Son of God". They have these truths confirmed, and then they stop. Their search for truth ends there. They take that single confirmation of truth and use it as a blanket for everything. The assumption is that if Jesus is the Son of God, which He is, and that He forgave their sins, then their current religious beliefs or affiliation must be true too. This conclusion is a fallacy because God neither endorsed nor denied their religion. He only answered the question that was asked.

Jesus said:
"But ye are commanded in all things to ask of God, who giveth liberally; and that which the Spirit testifies unto you even so I would that ye should do in all holiness of heart, walking uprightly before me, considering the end of your salvation, doing all things with prayer and thanksgiving, that ye may not be seduced by evil spirits, or doctrines of devils, or the commandments of men; for some are of men, and others of devils."

We must ask God if all things are true, or it would be too easy for the devil to deceive us. If your bishop, Pastor, Priest, Sunday School Teacher, Rabbi, etc, teach you something, don’t just take his word for it, ask God. We shouldn’t be afraid to ask God to confirm His truths. Especially, when He is inviting us to ask.

This is my challenge to everyone who reads this. Ask God about your own church. Pray to Him and ask whether He approves of your religion or not. Ask Him about everything your church teaches. Don’t cut yourself short, and be prepared for some of the answers you might get.

My challenge is the same as Moroni’s Challenge,
"And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost."

Since I’m using his name as my alias on the internet, I’m referring to this as my challenge too.

Beware of anyone that tries to convince you not to pray about religious matters. Don’t trust them. They are hiding something. Only the devil doesn’t want you to pray to your Father in Heaven. Each time you communicate with God, you strengthen those bonds, and lessen the influence of the adversary. What person who claims to believe in God would persuade anyone against communing with Him? Such a person is not of God and is being blinded by the devil. Don't be deceived.

Sometimes it can be hard to discern the answer. My recommendation is to go somewhere quiet, and ponder your thoughts for awhile. Focus on what you want to know, and minimize distractions. Begin your prayer; thank your Father in Heaven for all your blessings. Then inquire about a couple of issues you already know are true, like the reality of Jesus, or the authenticity of the Bible. See how you feel in your heart; let the Holy Ghost impress that feeling of peace and calm. 

After that, pray about issues you know are false, such as "Jesus did not die for my sins", "there is no atonement", or "there is no God". Reflect inward and feel the empty, chaotic, and anxious impressions you receive. This way you can discern the difference. Then you can move on to the desires of your heart, to know what is true and what is false. The answers may not come immediately; they may not come from quite some time. Or if your wavering then the answer may not come at all. It’s very hard to overcome our own biases and turn our hearts over to the gentle promptings of the Spirit.

Some people read the Bible, or other scripture, but their hearts are not in it, and they never believe. Then they spend all their efforts trying to invalidate the scriptures and those who profess them. If you discern some truth, build on that truth. If you discern something to be false, discard it. If you are not sure, give it time and eventually you will know. 

Remember, not being sure or not receiving a prompt answer IS NOT the same as disproving something. Sometimes God will wait and test us, to find if we really want to know. God will not cast his pearls before swine, and God will not be mocked. 

He teaches line upon line, precept on precept, giving here a little there a little. It comes down to faith and trust in God, and not necessarily the teachings of wise and prudent men.

I feel confident in teaching this because this is how I received my testimony. I've studied the writings and teachings of my church. I've read the Book of Mormon, and have received my answers concerning it. I've studied the beliefs and doctrines of other churches and compared them to those things that have been revealed to me as being true, and I have always come back to the conclusion that I am where God wants me to be. I am confident that if people take my challenge, with a soft and prepared heart, putting their trust directly in God's hands; testing the contents of every book, writing, and philosophy, against any truth God reveals to them that they too will know where God wants them to be. They will find peace in knowing that they are on the path God has set for them.

And I write these things in the Name of Jesus Christ, amen.

[link to www.moroni10.com]

I'm working on a new thread to enable better communication on GLP.

MC 

Last Edited by Tru Blu no more on 08/18/2009 09:52 AM

Says the one who labeled me as "defending Satan" with no proof to back up her accusations. Don't throw stones in your glass home.

Well let me see:

WWI - nope
WWII - nope
Vietnam war - nope
Civil war - nope
Spanish American war - nope
Korean War - nope
Is there any war other than the Crusades that has religion as it's cause? - nope


Athiest or "non-book tyrants:

Mao Tse Tung - 20 million lives
Stalin - 30 million lives
Pol Pot - 10 million lives


The evidence is pointing to you as a liar and a spreader of mis-information.

See, already divided and ruled. It works well doesn't it? ;)
Yes all those modern wars are political in nature.
The accumulation of wealth for the few.
Don't forget the many that died before those you mentioned in the name of religion and in the name of bringing a religion to the heathens and the inquisitions and even recent atrocities, like Bosnia, Albania, Ireland and so on.
Religion is but another tool to spawn a fanatical mind and use it against another.
If you for one moment think that all these book and non- book persons, wars and mass murders in the name of change, religion and politics, are separate and not lead by the same forces of control, you are quite mistaken.

But Shadow Fox stated that religion has caused more death than all the wars combined either you have evidence with history to make the statement valid or you don't and it is a lie, which is it?

Mass murder and genocide has always been committed by self proclaimed atheists, who without the restraint of religion, went apocalyptic on their own people. Evil locked up in the heart of fallen man will not rear it's ugly head until the restraint of religion is removed.

That is a fact that you, can't hide from nor deny. When faced with truth, your comments must be deemed as lies to control people.

But I have not, begin a count if you wish.

If political reasons wins but a few hundred million then obviously religion must be A ok

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Logic is the tool of the Devil! STONE HIM FOR BEING LOGICAL!!!!!!!!!!!! :4:

You are so false!

First of all Isaiah describes a light bearing MAN called Heylel, son of the god of Dawn (Son of the Sun, or Lucifer -- The WHITE man).

Ezekiel describes the Watchers, Cherubim left to guard Eden.

Satan is spoken about directly in Job, Jude and Revelation.

Three separate entities.

God allows Satan an EQUAL chance so that me must conciencely chose good over evil.

It's so obvious to the learned that you don't know what you're talking about!!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

so satans a wanker...

i think she knows quite a bit that is why it angers u so