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Squalene will be in H1N1 vaccines and that is NOT good news.

 
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Another rush to avert imminent and terrible crisis with what once again is shaping up to be a halfassed bumbling "plan" that isn't really a plan at all. The only difference?...this time they are going to be pumping the Stimulus package into your blood stream....how well did Santa's "Recovery Package" work?....we got sold a bill of goods with all that shovel ready bullshit that ended up being payoffs to states that brought the votes in and billions of dollars worth of non stimulating crap like a couple of tens of millions to protect the Harvest Mouse in San Fran Nancy's district and Cash for Clunkers aka the used American car Destruction Program...hey...! Lets burn down Cleveland and then re-build it! That will create jobs! and then we'll have.....what we started with before we burnt it down, no value added and the huge cost all for?....nothing but spending to replace what we already had....idiots....
You trust these retards to whip together 200 million doses of the fastest, cheapest vaccine ever made and shoot that shit into you?...cause I don't...and I won't be getting any flu shot.

On a personal note....Gillian Barre syndrome virtually killed my grandfather. He was moving to Florida from upstate NY right at the time the Swine flu scare was going down....his doctor talked him into getting the shot because of that move....he was never the same again and was indeed diagnosed with GBS....this was one of them old school hardass old guys that when I was a teenager I'd go up and stay with him for a week or two in the summer and help out doing heavy work clearing his land which he was always making more wooded brushed out and unusable portions into treed and clear usable area....this guy was up and out EVERYDAY at 6:00 AM mowing parts of the 5 acres of grass....then he'd wake me up around 9:00 and we'd eat a huge breakfast and breakout the heavy gear and chain saw trees...hual em out...hual out boulder sized rocks...etc etc...till dinner around 6pm and let me tell ya....that was one tough old dude....we'd knock back a beer or 2 after dinner...cause I was like only 16 so 2 was my limit..by his rules...lol....He'd go to bed around 9:00... and I was off to bang the local mountain gurls....lol....and he knew it.....so he figured I needed a few more hours sleep in the morning....rofl..

Just one of those tuff old salty birds that could prolly drink more whiskey, out hunt, out fight and out fuck most of us punkass teenagers who thought WE were hot shit...

Soon after he got that shot?...it wasted him....he was weak and had all sorts of health issues until it finally killed him about 10 years later....couldn't even walk after a time and had to be in a wheel chair.....I went down to visit him a few years before he died and he was in rough shape and it was all because of the Gullian Barre syndrome shit....he had a big handful of pills he had to take cause his blood pressure went to shit...and had tons of other problems that he never had before......and since he had company....we were drinking Johnny Black....so he swills down all these pills with the Whiskey and by then I could see it was hard for him to even lift the glass.......so I say...ummmm Grandpa...don't you think that maybe all them pills with whiskey will mess you up?...he said....I'm already messed up...fuck it....

So I've seen first hand what that can do...and it's not something you want to have happen to you or yours because as far as "side effects" go...one that more or less destroys your entire nervous system from the bottom up slowly is a pretty freakin bad one.....


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By Dr. Mercola

According to Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, your children should be the first target for mass swine flu vaccinations when school starts this fall.

This is a ridiculous assumption for many reasons, not to mention extremely high risk.

In Australia, where the winter season has begun, Federal Health Minister Nicola Roxon is reassuring parents the swine flu is no more dangerous than regular seasonal flu. "Most people, including children, will experience very mild symptoms and recover without any medical intervention," she said.[ii]

Sydney-based immunization specialist Robert Booy predicts swine flu might be fatal to about twice as many children in the coming year as regular influenza. Booy estimates 10-12 children could die from the H1N1 virus, compared with the five or six regular flu deaths seen among children in an average year in Australia.[iii]

“Cure the Disease, Kill the Patient”

Less than 100 children in the U.S. die each year from seasonal flu viruses.[iv] If we use Australia’s math, a very rough estimate would be another 100 children could potentially die of swine flu in the United States in the coming year.

If children are the first target group in the U.S. per Sebelius, that means we’re about to inject around 75 million children with a fast tracked vaccine containing novel adjuvants, including dangerous squalene, to prevent perhaps 100 deaths.

I’m not overlooking the tragedy of the loss of even one child to an illness like the H1N1 flu virus. But there can be no argument that unnecessary mass injection of millions of children with a vaccine containing an adjuvant known to cause a host of debilitating autoimmune diseases is a reckless, dangerous plan.

Why are Vaccinations Dangerous?


The presumed intent of a vaccination is to help you build immunity to potentially harmful organisms that cause illness and disease. However, your body’s immune system is already designed to do this in response to organisms which invade your body naturally.

Most disease-causing organisms enter your body through the mucous membranes of your nose, mouth, pulmonary system or your digestive tract – not through an injection.

These mucous membranes have their own immune system, called the IgA immune system. It is a different system from the one activated when a vaccine is injected into your body.

Your IgA immune system is your body’s first line of defense. Its job is to fight off invading organisms at their entry points, reducing or even eliminating the need for activation of your body’s immune system.

When a virus is injected into your body in a vaccine, and especially when combined with an immune adjuvant like squalene, your IgA immune system is bypassed and your body’s immune system kicks into high gear in response to the vaccination.
Injecting organisms into your body to provoke immunity is contrary to nature, and vaccination carries enormous potential to do serious damage to your health.

And as if Vaccines Weren’t Dangerous Enough on Their Own …

… imagine them turbocharged.

The main ingredient in a vaccine is either killed viruses or live ones that have been attenuated (weakened and made less harmful).

Flu vaccines can also contain a number of chemical toxins, including ethylene glycol (antifreeze), formaldehyde, phenol (carbolic acid) and even antibiotics like Neomycin and streptomycin.

In addition to the viruses and other additives, many vaccines also contain immune adjuvants like aluminum and squalene.
The purpose of an immune adjuvant added to a vaccine is to enhance (turbo charge) your immune response to the vaccination. Adjuvants cause your immune system to overreact to the introduction of the organism you’re being vaccinated against.

Adjuvants are supposed to get the job done faster (but certainly not more safely), which reduces the amount of vaccine required per dose, and the number of doses given per individual.

Less vaccine required per person means more individual doses available for mass vaccination campaigns. Coincidentally, this is exactly the goal of government and the pharmaceutical companies who stand to make millions from their vaccines.

Will There Be Immune Adjuvants in Swine Flu Vaccines?

The U.S. government has contracts with several drug companies to develop and produce swine flu vaccines. At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are using an adjuvant in their H1N1 vaccines.

The adjuvant? Squalene.

According to Meryl Nass, M.D., an authority on the anthrax vaccine,

“A novel feature of the two H1N1 vaccines being developed by companies Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline is the addition of squalene-containing adjuvants to boost immunogenicity and dramatically reduce the amount of viral antigen needed. This translates to much faster production of desired vaccine quantities.”[v]

Novartis’s proprietary squalene adjuvant for their H1N1 vaccine is MF59. Glaxo’s is ASO3. MF59 has yet to be approved by the FDA for use in any U.S. vaccine, despite its history of use in other countries.

Per Dr. Nass, there are only three vaccines in existence using an approved squalene adjuvant. None of the three are approved for use in the U.S.

What Squalene Does to Rats

Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time.[vi]

A 2000 study published in the American Journal of Pathology demonstrated a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation,” also known as rheumatoid arthritis.[vii]

The researchers concluded the study raised questions about the role of adjuvants in chronic inflammatory diseases.

What Squalene Does to Humans

Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.

The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii]

Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene.[ix] MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.[x]
The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP).

However, the FDA discovered the presence of squalene in certain lots of AVIP product. A test was developed to detect anti-squalene antibodies in GWS patients, and a clear link was established between the contaminated product and all the GWS sufferers who had been injected with the vaccine containing squalene.

A study conducted at Tulane Medical School and published in the February 2000 issue of Experimental Molecular Pathology included these stunning statistics:

“ … the substantial majority (95%) of overtly ill deployed GWS patients had antibodies to squalene. All (100%) GWS patients immunized for service in Desert Shield/Desert Storm who did not deploy, but had the same signs and symptoms as those who did deploy, had antibodies to squalene.

In contrast, none (0%) of the deployed Persian Gulf veterans not showing signs and symptoms of GWS have antibodies to squalene. Neither patients with idiopathic autoimmune disease nor healthy controls had detectable serum antibodies to squalene. The majority of symptomatic GWS patients had serum antibodies to squalene.”[xi]

According to Dr. Viera Scheibner, Ph.D., a former principle research scientist for the government of Australia:

“… this adjuvant [squalene] contributed to the cascade of reactions called "Gulf War Syndrome," documented in the soldiers involved in the Gulf War.

The symptoms they developed included arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), Raynaud’s phenomenon, Sjorgren’s syndrome, chronic diarrhoea, night sweats and low-grade fevers.”[xii]

Post Vaccination Follow-Up Might as Well Be Non-Existent

There is virtually no science to support the safety of vaccine injections on your long-term health or the health of your children. Follow-up studies last on average about two weeks, and look only for glaring injuries and illnesses.

Autoimmune disorders like those seen in Gulf War Syndrome frequently take years to diagnose due to the vagueness of early symptoms. Complaints like headaches, fatigue and chronic aches and pains are symptoms of many different illnesses and diseases.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for vaccine purveyors and proponents to look seriously at the long-term health consequences of their vaccination campaigns.

[link to articles.mercola.com]

USAToday.com, Swine flu shots may go to kids first, Sebelius says, June 16, 2009 [link to www.usatoday.com]

[ii] ABC.net.au, Health minister reassures parents over swine flu, July 2, 2009 [link to www.abc.net.au]

[iii] Google News, AFP, Australia urges calm after child flu death, July 2, 2009, [link to www.google.com]

[iv] Meryl Nass, M.D., July 4, 2009 [link to anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com]

[v] Meryl Nass, M.D., July 3, 2009 [link to anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com]

[vi] Rense.com, Vaccines, Autism, and Gulf War Syndrome, August 15, 2005 [link to www.rense.com]

[vii] The American Journal of Pathology, The Endogenous Adjuvant Squalene Can Induce a Chronic T-Cell-Mediated Arthritis in Rats, 2000 [link to ajp.amjpathol.org]

[viii] Vaccination Liberation, Adjuvant Index Page [link to www.vaclib.org]

[ix] Autoimmune Technologies, News Release: SQUALENE FOUND IN ANTHRAX VACCINE, [link to www.autoimmune.com]

[x] Autoimmune Technologies, Gulf War Syndrome: ANTI-SQUALENE ANTIBODIES LINK GULF WAR SYNDROME TO ANTHRAX VACCINE [link to www.autoimmune.com]

[xi] ScienceDirect.com, Experimental and Molecular Pathology, Volume 68, Issue 1, February 2000, Pages 55-64 [link to www.sciencedirect.com]

[xii] Adverse Effects of Adjuvants in Vaccines, by Viera Scheibner, Ph.D., 2000 [link to www.whale.to]


H1N1 vaccines with novel adjuvants being developed for potential mass use
The US government has contracted with at least 5 pharmaceutical manufacturers to develop and produce H1N1 vaccines, using a variety of platforms and manufacturing methods. This is an excellent approach, since at this point no one knows which will succeed and how long it will take to obtain desired quantities of vaccine.

A novel feature of the two H1N1 vaccines being developed by companies Novartis and Glaxo-Smith Kline is the addition of squalene-containing adjuvants to boost immunogenicity and dramatically reduce the amount of viral antigen needed. This translates to much faster production of desired vaccine quantities.
Each company has its own proprietary adjuvant, acquired in each case at high cost and intended for the high-stakes business of rapidly producing vaccines for novel pandemics or biological warfare threats.

Novartis' adjuvant is named MF59, and Glaxo's is ASO3. We know they work beautifully to strengthen vaccine efficacy. But how safe are they?

That is a very difficult question to answer. Novartis claims MF-59 has been used safely by over 40 million people. However, FDA has not seen fit to approve even a single US vaccine that contains these novel adjuvants.
One European vaccine contains MF59, and two European vaccines contain ASO4, which is a Glaxo adjuvant related to ASO3. Fluad (with MF-59) is only licensed for use in the over-65 population. This age group responds weakly to standard flu vaccines, and whether standard flu vaccines actually reduce flu cases in this age group is controversial. So a stronger vaccine may be indicated for this group. And as we age, we are much less likely to develop autoimmune disorders, so potential autoimmune side effects should also be less in this age group.

However, in the 12 years since Fluad was approved in Italy for older adults (and later in the EU, but not be every country in the EU) no other vaccine containing MF-59 has been licensed... even though MF-59 has been used in a large number of vaccine trials. Virtually all the scientific literature on this adjuvant has been produced by scientists working for the manufacturer, precluding an unbiased assessment of safety at this time.

Glaxo's ASO4 is used in Fendrix (a Hepatitis B vaccine). Fendrix may only be used for people with kidney disease. Patients on kidney dialysis have a high rate of Hepatitis B infection, and a weak immune system. So they are good candidates for an especially potent vaccine against a disease to which they are highly susceptible, and these recipients are unlikely to develop autoimmune complications.

Cervarix is a vaccine directed against several strains of human papilloma virus (HPV), licensed in both Europe and Australia, which contains ASO4. It is difficult to assess Cervarix' safety at this point in time, as data are limited. It is worth noting that FDA has delayed giving Cervarix a US license twice.
The June 19, 2009 Science magazine discusses use of these "next-generation," antigen-sparing adjuvants for an H1N1 pandemic. It quotes Norman Baylor, director of FDA's Office of Vaccine Research and Review, who noted that antigen-sparing strategies benefit populations, not individuals. "You have to think about those trade-offs," Baylor said.
Posted by Meryl Nass, M.D. at 6:36 PM

[link to anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com]

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Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR hf

I've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines.
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Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR hf

I've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines.
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Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine.
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Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR hf

I've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines.
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The only shots I've gotten in decades have been a couple of tetnus shots....usually cause I got stabbed with something pretty bad while working.....aside from that?...nothing...and I won't be getting any anytime soon either....see if I can talk my Dad out of getting the thing too...but he still kinda trusts doctors....although he had a bit of an awakening when he told me he was taking Lipitor for cholesterol as per his doctors orders....and he was proud that his cholesterol was real low....so I told him...well stop taking that shit then...if it's low?...then why do you need it and it damages your liver....so I got him to at least ask on his next visit....well low and behold....his doctor was at least honest and said....your son is right, we can at least cut it in half...instead of a pill a day?...take one every other day....that was a while ago and his cholesterol stayed at the same low numbers...he was pretty impressed....so he got bold and said now he only takes 2 a week....still holding and he plans to go to once a week...but a lot of these old timers still trust the doctors word as expert....and a lot of course are afraid they will be cut off Medicare if they rock the boat...and for many that would be a death sentance.....
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Sorry about your grandfather SHR.

But thankyou for getting the truth out, like they say knowledge is power and its about time we all took our power back.
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Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR hf

I've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines.

The only shots I've gotten in decades have been a couple of tetnus shots....usually cause I got stabbed with something pretty bad while working.....aside from that?...nothing...and I won't be getting any anytime soon either....see if I can talk my Dad out of getting the thing too...but he still kinda trusts doctors....although he had a bit of an awakening when he told me he was taking Lipitor for cholesterol as per his doctors orders....and he was proud that his cholesterol was real low....so I told him...well stop taking that shit then...if it's low?...then why do you need it and it damages your liver....so I got him to at least ask on his next visit....well low and behold....his doctor was at least honest and said....your son is right, we can at least cut it in half...instead of a pill a day?...take one every other day....that was a while ago and his cholesterol stayed at the same low numbers...he was pretty impressed....so he got bold and said now he only takes 2 a week....still holding and he plans to go to once a week...but a lot of these old timers still trust the doctors word as expert....and a lot of course are afraid they will be cut off Medicare if they rock the boat...and for many that would be a death sentance.....
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Luckily my mom has turned into a bit of rebel in her 70s, she's off the lipitor and taking niacin instead, turned down the osteoporosis meds because she asked, "at my age aren't we more prone to breaks?" The doc said yes and she said she decided she wouldn't take it.

And she's sworn not to take any vaccines, even though all her friends rush out to get the newest ones. I would say I've been a bad influence, but perhaps not, lol.
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Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR hf

I've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines.

Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine.
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That's exactly my problem.

But today we've just been told we are expected to get thta shot if we want to work here.
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Live Attenuated Swine Influenza Vaccine for Children Safety in Question

The live attenuated swine flu vaccine intended for millions of children has dangerous side effects and is genetically unstable, risking generation of new pandemic strains should mass vaccinations go ahead.
Prof. Joe Cummins and Dr. Mae-Wan Ho

This report has been submitted to Sir Liam Donaldson, UK Chief Medical Officer, and to the US Food and Drug Administration Please circulate widely, with all the hyperlinks included, to your elected representatives, wherever you are

Food Futures Now , *Organic *Sustainable *Fossil Fuel Free, How organic agriculture and localised food, and energy systems can potentially compensate for all greenhouse gas emissions due to human activities and free us from fossil fuels The swine flu vaccines being prepared for release to combat the current pandemic will be fast tracked without the usual clinical trials to ensure their safety. Five different companies were contracted to produce vaccines worldwide - Baxter International, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis. Sanofi-Aventis and AstraZeneca - using a range of technologies from traditional chicken egg production to cell culture [1] ( Fast-tracked Swine Flu Vaccine under Fire , SiS 43).

Most of the vaccines will not contain live virus and will be delivered by injection. However AstraZeneca will produce a genetically engineered live attenuated vaccine through its global biologics unit, MedImmune, using cell culture or eggs [2]. The MedImmune vaccine will be used primarily for children, to be delivered as a nasal spray. The nasal spray vaccine against pandemic H1N1 influenza has been fast tracked for global distribution [3].

The live-attenuated vaccine appears more effective than the inactivated virus vaccine, but it resulted in significantly higher rates of severe adverse events. Furthermore, there is evidence that the live vaccine is highly genetically unstable in warm body cells and that has not been thoroughly evaluated in the children vaccinated .

Live attenuated versus inactivated influenza vaccine

MedImmune sponsored a safety and efficacy trial of the nasal spray live- attenuated, cold adapted (see below) influenza vaccine compared with inactivated vaccine on infants and young children 6 to 59 months of age [4]. . The study was conducted at 249 sites in 16 countries; US (49 percent of subjects), 12 countries in Europe and Middle East (45 percent), and 3 countries in Asia (6 percent).

A total of 7852 children completed the study. The results showed that there were 54.7 percent fewer cases of culture-confirmed influenza in the group that received live attenuated vaccine than in the group that received inactivated vaccine (153 cases, 3.9 percent vs 338 cases, 8.6 percent). For all culture-confirmed symptomatic influenza (both vaccine and non-vaccine strains), the overall attack rates were 5 percent in the group that received live attenuated vaccine and 10.0 percent in the group that received inactivated vaccine, indicating that neither vaccine was particularly good at preventing illness from non-vaccine strains. These results broadly confirm those of a comprehensive review carried out in 2006-2008, which could not provide safety analysis [5].

It is important to note that the MedImmune study explicitly excluded children with a history of hypersensitivity to any component of the live attenuated vaccine or the inactivated vaccine, known immunosuppressive condition , medically diagnosed or treated wheezing within 42 days before enrolment, a history of severe asthma , body temperature higher than 37.8 C within 3 days before enrolment and the use of aspirin or salicylate-containing products within 30 days before enrolment. The conditions italicized are precisely those considered especially at risk from swine flu and identified as ‘priority groups' for receiving the vaccine by the UK government, which intends to vaccinate the entire UK population starting in October [6], and there is already evidence that the inactivated flu vaccine tripled the risk of severe events in children with asthma [7]. These findings are confirmed in the Medimmune study, which exposes the highly inadequate safety considerations in the UK government's mass vaccination programme.

The results showed that among previously unvaccinated children, wheezing within 42 days after the administration of dose 1 was more common with live attenuated vaccine, primarily among children 6 to 11 months of age, which had 12 more episodes of severe wheezing (3.8 percent, compared with 2.1 percent, p=0.076). Furthermore, rates of hospitalization for any cause during the 180 days after vaccination were significantly higher among the recipients of live attenuated vaccine who were 6 to 11 months of age (6.1 percent compared with 2.6 percent, p = 0.002).

The authors stated [4, p. 694]:“Until additional data are available, the observations related to medically significant wheezing and rates of hospitalization will restrict the use of live attenuated vaccine in children younger than 1 year and in children 12 to 47 months of age who have a history of asthma or wheezing.”

With that proviso, perhaps, they concluded that an “evaluation of the risks and benefits indicates that live attenuated vaccine should be a highly effective, safe vaccine for children 12 to 59 months of age who do not have a history of asthma or wheezing

Immunizing school children finds favour with governments because it provides herd protection for the population and is considered more effective than immunizing elderly and high risk patients [8]. The MedImmune nasal live attenuated influenza vaccine for seasonal and pandemic influenza is called FluMist.

Producing live attenuated influenza vaccine

Influenza virus infection depends on two genes coding for haemagglutinin (HA) and neuraminidase (NA). HA and NA are on the surface of the virus, and are therefore targets for vaccination. Because classical reassortment methods (see [1]) for producing influenza vaccine are time-consuming and cumbersome, a new , more efficient and faster “reverse genetics” method was devised that assembles RNA virus from the genes on DNA plasmids. For vaccine production, eight plasmids -containing the HA and NA genes from pathogenic influenza strains plus six genes from a non pathogenic master strain - along with additional plasmids encoding proteins necessary for replication and transcription, are transfected into cell lines [9]. Virus can then be harvested from these cells for the production of inactivated or live attenuated vaccine. ` Live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV) was originally derived by cold adaptation of an influenza type A strain by serial passage at sequentially lower temperatures in chick kidney cells. During that process, multiple gene mutants were selected for cold adapted (ca), temperature sensitive (ts) and attenuated (att) phenotypes of master donor viruses (MDVs). The MDVs represent the live attenuated virus backbone that are updated for annual influenza or pandemic influenza HA and NA genes from disease strains The vaccine seed strain selected in the process is then used to produce quantities of live attenuated vaccine. No preservatives are added to the vaccine produced from the vaccine seed strain [10].

The Madin-Darby canine kidney (MDCK) cell line was chosen to produce quantities of live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV). The MDCK cell line was compared with the Vero cell line derived from kidney epithelial cells of the African green monkey and other cell lines derived from foetal lungs of humans or Rhesus monkey. Both MDCK and Vero cell lines supported high level production of LAIV for some strains of the virus while the other cell lines were less productive. However, only the MDCK cells produced quantities of all of the LAIV strains [11].

Problem with genetic instability of LAIV

LAIV replicates primarily in the ciliated epithelial cells of the nasopharyngeal mucosa to induce mucosal immune responses. LAIV viruses do not replicate well at the warmer temperatures found in the lower airways and lung. In the course of replication, all LAIV viral proteins would be presented to the immune system in their native conformation and the resultant immune responses mimic those of natural infection with influenza virus [10].

A potential problem was observed in studies of LAIV as it encounters restrictive temperature in the lung. The viral polymerase function is reduced and virus replication, assembly, and release become impaired [12]. The morphology of the temperature restricted virus was affected and the virus particles contained high levels of heat shock protein. Impairment of the viral replicase is a matter of concern because replicase may create new pandemic strains. Restrictive replication of LAIV at the restrictive temperature occurs in multiple steps in the virus replication cycle [13]. Shedding of LAIV is observed in individuals between 5 to 49 years of age up to 11 days after vaccination, and vaccinated individuals were advised to avoid contact with severely inmunosuppressed individuals for a week after vaccination [14].

Millions of children may soon be vaccinated with LAIV. But there is a large deficit in scientific studies on the molecular biology of LAIV exposed to restrictive temperature. The restricted viruses are genetically unstable and may result in gene alterations that serve to seed pandemic strains of influenza. This possibility must be thoroughly investigated before we expose millions more people to such live viruses.

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Thanks for the Squalene connection...

That is the first time I have seen anything remotely connect the dots for me...

I won't have any 'vaccince' at all, but now I have actual ammo...

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Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR hf

I've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines.

Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine.


That's exactly my problem.

But today we've just been told we are expected to get thta shot if we want to work here.
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Damn, OM, I hate to hear that :(
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only me,

they told you have to get the swine flu shot if you want to keep your job???

i would find an attorney now, and get ready to sue the pants off them.

maybe you can win, and get a nice retirement package.
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Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR hf

I've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines.

Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine.


That's exactly my problem.

But today we've just been told we are expected to get thta shot if we want to work here.
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Thought it would come down to that one, been really worried for the people who cant just tell their jobs to go F themselves, but there are things that can get that crap back out the body.
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May want to brush up on Human Biochemistry.
The human body actually produces squalene as an important precursor.

And Dr. Mercola?
C'mon now.

Have fun.


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Thanks for the Squalene connection...

That is the first time I have seen anything remotely connect the dots for me...

I won't have any 'vaccince' at all, but now I have actual ammo...

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They'll be thymerisol in all the multi-dose vials of vaccine too....the way I see it shaping up?..there could be very well be something that is known to be real bad in just about every vaccine the gov buys....it's going to be a "Name your poison" situation. The fuckin flu vaccine is retarded any way....a very good chance the "Live Virus" vaccine which is almost always the nasal spray type CAUSES the flu season....remember when Hillary's "Shots for kids" program, or whatever it was called, more or less caused a few month delay in the availability of the seasonal flu shot because several of major manufacturers stopped producing it because of the price controls?...well magically the flu season was also delayed that year...and there about zero in the MSM about THAT corelation...

Fuck that seasonal flu shot vaccine...it's just a gravy train for Big Pharma and all the Medicare providers that pump that shit into people every year.
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May want to brush up on Human Biochemistry.
The human body actually produces squalene as an important precursor.

And Dr. Mercola?
C'mon now.

Have fun.


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Oh you mean like HE says here? Try actually reading more than first few sentances ummkay?...fuck I even bolded the relevant part on how and why the introduction of Squalene which can be a very good anti-oxidant into an un-natural pathway is freakin bad for you....seriously...engage brain before operating mouth....

Here's it is AGAIN....

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What Squalene Does to Humans

Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.

The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii]


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Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR hf

I've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines.

Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine.


That's exactly my problem.

But today we've just been told we are expected to get thta shot if we want to work here.


Thought it would come down to that one, been really worried for the people who cant just tell their jobs to go F themselves, but there are things that can get that crap back out the body.
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They danced around saying that exact phrase in every way possible but the intention is crystal clear.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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SQUALENE is used also in the treatment of Alopecia Areata, a disease that cause airs to fall in patches, a friend of mine as been using this shit for years I told him now about that and he told me the doctor never ever told him the consequences of using this chemical, and he is suffering of muscles and reumatism h is 35... but only now he is connecting this with that cure. Now that is really insane, these are not doctors these bastards are all murderers.
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Here's it is AGAIN....

>>>>>>

What Squalene Does to Humans

Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.

The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii]

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My deepest condolences to all of you who have been damaged by squalene, or have loved ones who were damaged or lost their life from the pharma/sorcery. rose

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Great. My options: Keep you job and die or lose your job and "live"
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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This is good information. I request a PIN.

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SQUALENE is used also in the treatment of Alopecia Areata, a disease that cause airs to fall in patches, a friend of mine as been using this shit for years I told him now about that and he told me the doctor never ever told him the consequences of using this chemical, and he is suffering of muscles and reumatism h is 35... but only now he is connecting this with that cure. Now that is really insane, these are not doctors these bastards are all murderers.
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Unfortunately most of them turned into drug pushers for big pharma....that's what this whole "Wellness" crap that is being pimped now is all about....listen carefully to what you are hearing. They get you into this "Wellcare" for diseases you might be genetically pre-disposed to...all of them are like High Cholesterol, High blood pressure, Diabetes etc etc and for most if not all?...the protocol is get you on a drug...forever. Then you become a nice little easy money generating machine. It is more profitable to have your lifespan cut if you spend a larger portion of that lifespan on their prescriptions. In fact that is the most profitable scenerio....you live 30 years buying the "Medicine"? then croak before you need any major operations or can collect your Social Security.
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Excellent info Bro

And again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed

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Excellent info Bro

And again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed

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The vast majority of people are NOT going to know about things like this at all...if the people getting this vaccine are even told some pablum like statement such as "Well there are always some risks with any vaccine"..then they will be lucky they even got that. The way I see it they are slamming this one together at a record pace and using every chemical additive to stretch the doses and make it as cost effective (cheap) as possible and they are compromising on safety and quality....and that is going to affect the people who take it....little doubt there.
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Hi SHR,
Sorry to hear about your Grand Father and thanks for the great information. My Father in law also caught Gillian Barre syndrome after a flu shot and did not recover.

I will not be taking this swine flu vaccine either.
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Excellent info Bro

And again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed

hf for you Grandfather

The vast majority of people are NOT going to know about things like this at all...if the people getting this vaccine are even told some pablum like statement such as "Well there are always some risks with any vaccine"..then they will be lucky they even got that. The way I see it they are slamming this one together at a record pace and using every chemical additive to stretch the doses and make it as cost effective (cheap) as possible and they are compromising on safety and quality....and that is going to affect the people who take it....little doubt there.
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SO REALLY, I'M GONNA DIE.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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[link to www.vaclib.org]

Am I reading this right here? That Squalene causes somekind of Cytokine storm where the body attacks it's own tissue?
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I'm not taking any shots or vaccines but want to say it is possible for them to kind of catch you unaware.

One time a long time ago (1990?) I got bit by a stray cat, pretty deep. I finally went to urgent care because people were telling me horror stories, and it was swelling up. When I was there they did a few things then came in with a tetanus shot, put a piece of paper in front of me said here sign this and had that in my arm in just a few seconds. I had no time to think about it, and of course I was in that kind of disoriented state you get when you are injured and in an unfamiliar environment with people "in authority".

I would say if you go to the doctor for something else, make damn sure you are prepared to fend off a move like that. I didn't think much about the tetanus shot at the time, or even since then, however, I did not let them talk me into rabies shots, I thought that was retarded. The damn cat did not have rabies. People worry about the stupidest shit. They didn't get anywhere with me with that.

I took the wretched antibiotics though after they told me what could happen if my tendon sheath was nicked and the tendon got infected - horrors.

Anyway the point is they might foist this shot on you when you aren't expecting to have to put up a fight, so forewarned is forearmed. I don't plan on being anywhere near anyone with a needle or anywhere where the situation could come up - knock wood.
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Excellent info Bro

And again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed

hf for you Grandfather

The vast majority of people are NOT going to know about things like this at all...if the people getting this vaccine are even told some pablum like statement such as "Well there are always some risks with any vaccine"..then they will be lucky they even got that. The way I see it they are slamming this one together at a record pace and using every chemical additive to stretch the doses and make it as cost effective (cheap) as possible and they are compromising on safety and quality....and that is going to affect the people who take it....little doubt there.


SO REALLY, I'M GONNA DIE.
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I wouldn't take it. There are laws that protect you against forced vaccinations.
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... wonder how many of the White House staff/Congress Critters/Governmentals/etc. ... have had their SHOTS? ...
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... when they get theirs ... we watch ... see what happens to them first! ...
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I wouldn't take it. There are laws that protect you against forced vaccinations.
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They won't fire for that. They will officially fire for something else that can't be disproven. But trust me, by the way it was stated, it is very clear what they mean.\



oh well, i have a few months to worry about it.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

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Excellent info Bro

And again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed

hf for you Grandfather

The vast majority of people are NOT going to know about things like this at all...if the people getting this vaccine are even told some pablum like statement such as "Well there are always some risks with any vaccine"..then they will be lucky they even got that. The way I see it they are slamming this one together at a record pace and using every chemical additive to stretch the doses and make it as cost effective (cheap) as possible and they are compromising on safety and quality....and that is going to affect the people who take it....little doubt there.


SO REALLY, I'M GONNA DIE.

I wouldn't take it. There are laws that protect you against forced vaccinations.
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Wish my mother had known that one they forced her to take a flu vaccine last year but I remember it as she got real sick with the flu, only just found out they forced it though the other day like. Told her she didnt have a choice because of her health and the next thing wham they stuck it in her.
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