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Evil Twin 08/19/2009 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR Quoting: Turtles KnowI've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines. Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine. |
SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 08/19/2009 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR Quoting: Turtles KnowI've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines. The only shots I've gotten in decades have been a couple of tetnus shots....usually cause I got stabbed with something pretty bad while working.....aside from that?...nothing...and I won't be getting any anytime soon either....see if I can talk my Dad out of getting the thing too...but he still kinda trusts doctors....although he had a bit of an awakening when he told me he was taking Lipitor for cholesterol as per his doctors orders....and he was proud that his cholesterol was real low....so I told him...well stop taking that shit then...if it's low?...then why do you need it and it damages your liver....so I got him to at least ask on his next visit....well low and behold....his doctor was at least honest and said....your son is right, we can at least cut it in half...instead of a pill a day?...take one every other day....that was a while ago and his cholesterol stayed at the same low numbers...he was pretty impressed....so he got bold and said now he only takes 2 a week....still holding and he plans to go to once a week...but a lot of these old timers still trust the doctors word as expert....and a lot of course are afraid they will be cut off Medicare if they rock the boat...and for many that would be a death sentance..... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Fhirinne User ID: 623339 United Kingdom 08/19/2009 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry about your grandfather SHR. But thankyou for getting the truth out, like they say knowledge is power and its about time we all took our power back. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 697440 United States 08/19/2009 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR Quoting: SHRI've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines. The only shots I've gotten in decades have been a couple of tetnus shots....usually cause I got stabbed with something pretty bad while working.....aside from that?...nothing...and I won't be getting any anytime soon either....see if I can talk my Dad out of getting the thing too...but he still kinda trusts doctors....although he had a bit of an awakening when he told me he was taking Lipitor for cholesterol as per his doctors orders....and he was proud that his cholesterol was real low....so I told him...well stop taking that shit then...if it's low?...then why do you need it and it damages your liver....so I got him to at least ask on his next visit....well low and behold....his doctor was at least honest and said....your son is right, we can at least cut it in half...instead of a pill a day?...take one every other day....that was a while ago and his cholesterol stayed at the same low numbers...he was pretty impressed....so he got bold and said now he only takes 2 a week....still holding and he plans to go to once a week...but a lot of these old timers still trust the doctors word as expert....and a lot of course are afraid they will be cut off Medicare if they rock the boat...and for many that would be a death sentance..... Luckily my mom has turned into a bit of rebel in her 70s, she's off the lipitor and taking niacin instead, turned down the osteoporosis meds because she asked, "at my age aren't we more prone to breaks?" The doc said yes and she said she decided she wouldn't take it. And she's sworn not to take any vaccines, even though all her friends rush out to get the newest ones. I would say I've been a bad influence, but perhaps not, lol. |
Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 239124 United States 08/19/2009 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR Quoting: Evil TwinI've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines. Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine. That's exactly my problem. But today we've just been told we are expected to get thta shot if we want to work here. Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 601353 Canada 08/19/2009 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live Attenuated Swine Influenza Vaccine for Children Safety in Question The live attenuated swine flu vaccine intended for millions of children has dangerous side effects and is genetically unstable, risking generation of new pandemic strains should mass vaccinations go ahead. Prof. Joe Cummins and Dr. Mae-Wan Ho This report has been submitted to Sir Liam Donaldson, UK Chief Medical Officer, and to the US Food and Drug Administration Please circulate widely, with all the hyperlinks included, to your elected representatives, wherever you are Food Futures Now , *Organic *Sustainable *Fossil Fuel Free, How organic agriculture and localised food, and energy systems can potentially compensate for all greenhouse gas emissions due to human activities and free us from fossil fuels The swine flu vaccines being prepared for release to combat the current pandemic will be fast tracked without the usual clinical trials to ensure their safety. Five different companies were contracted to produce vaccines worldwide - Baxter International, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis. Sanofi-Aventis and AstraZeneca - using a range of technologies from traditional chicken egg production to cell culture [1] ( Fast-tracked Swine Flu Vaccine under Fire , SiS 43). Most of the vaccines will not contain live virus and will be delivered by injection. However AstraZeneca will produce a genetically engineered live attenuated vaccine through its global biologics unit, MedImmune, using cell culture or eggs [2]. The MedImmune vaccine will be used primarily for children, to be delivered as a nasal spray. The nasal spray vaccine against pandemic H1N1 influenza has been fast tracked for global distribution [3]. The live-attenuated vaccine appears more effective than the inactivated virus vaccine, but it resulted in significantly higher rates of severe adverse events. Furthermore, there is evidence that the live vaccine is highly genetically unstable in warm body cells and that has not been thoroughly evaluated in the children vaccinated . Live attenuated versus inactivated influenza vaccine MedImmune sponsored a safety and efficacy trial of the nasal spray live- attenuated, cold adapted (see below) influenza vaccine compared with inactivated vaccine on infants and young children 6 to 59 months of age [4]. . The study was conducted at 249 sites in 16 countries; US (49 percent of subjects), 12 countries in Europe and Middle East (45 percent), and 3 countries in Asia (6 percent). A total of 7852 children completed the study. The results showed that there were 54.7 percent fewer cases of culture-confirmed influenza in the group that received live attenuated vaccine than in the group that received inactivated vaccine (153 cases, 3.9 percent vs 338 cases, 8.6 percent). For all culture-confirmed symptomatic influenza (both vaccine and non-vaccine strains), the overall attack rates were 5 percent in the group that received live attenuated vaccine and 10.0 percent in the group that received inactivated vaccine, indicating that neither vaccine was particularly good at preventing illness from non-vaccine strains. These results broadly confirm those of a comprehensive review carried out in 2006-2008, which could not provide safety analysis [5]. It is important to note that the MedImmune study explicitly excluded children with a history of hypersensitivity to any component of the live attenuated vaccine or the inactivated vaccine, known immunosuppressive condition , medically diagnosed or treated wheezing within 42 days before enrolment, a history of severe asthma , body temperature higher than 37.8 C within 3 days before enrolment and the use of aspirin or salicylate-containing products within 30 days before enrolment. The conditions italicized are precisely those considered especially at risk from swine flu and identified as ‘priority groups' for receiving the vaccine by the UK government, which intends to vaccinate the entire UK population starting in October [6], and there is already evidence that the inactivated flu vaccine tripled the risk of severe events in children with asthma [7]. These findings are confirmed in the Medimmune study, which exposes the highly inadequate safety considerations in the UK government's mass vaccination programme. The results showed that among previously unvaccinated children, wheezing within 42 days after the administration of dose 1 was more common with live attenuated vaccine, primarily among children 6 to 11 months of age, which had 12 more episodes of severe wheezing (3.8 percent, compared with 2.1 percent, p=0.076). Furthermore, rates of hospitalization for any cause during the 180 days after vaccination were significantly higher among the recipients of live attenuated vaccine who were 6 to 11 months of age (6.1 percent compared with 2.6 percent, p = 0.002). The authors stated [4, p. 694]:“Until additional data are available, the observations related to medically significant wheezing and rates of hospitalization will restrict the use of live attenuated vaccine in children younger than 1 year and in children 12 to 47 months of age who have a history of asthma or wheezing.” With that proviso, perhaps, they concluded that an “evaluation of the risks and benefits indicates that live attenuated vaccine should be a highly effective, safe vaccine for children 12 to 59 months of age who do not have a history of asthma or wheezing Immunizing school children finds favour with governments because it provides herd protection for the population and is considered more effective than immunizing elderly and high risk patients [8]. The MedImmune nasal live attenuated influenza vaccine for seasonal and pandemic influenza is called FluMist. Producing live attenuated influenza vaccine Influenza virus infection depends on two genes coding for haemagglutinin (HA) and neuraminidase (NA). HA and NA are on the surface of the virus, and are therefore targets for vaccination. Because classical reassortment methods (see [1]) for producing influenza vaccine are time-consuming and cumbersome, a new , more efficient and faster “reverse genetics” method was devised that assembles RNA virus from the genes on DNA plasmids. For vaccine production, eight plasmids -containing the HA and NA genes from pathogenic influenza strains plus six genes from a non pathogenic master strain - along with additional plasmids encoding proteins necessary for replication and transcription, are transfected into cell lines [9]. Virus can then be harvested from these cells for the production of inactivated or live attenuated vaccine. ` Live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV) was originally derived by cold adaptation of an influenza type A strain by serial passage at sequentially lower temperatures in chick kidney cells. During that process, multiple gene mutants were selected for cold adapted (ca), temperature sensitive (ts) and attenuated (att) phenotypes of master donor viruses (MDVs). The MDVs represent the live attenuated virus backbone that are updated for annual influenza or pandemic influenza HA and NA genes from disease strains The vaccine seed strain selected in the process is then used to produce quantities of live attenuated vaccine. No preservatives are added to the vaccine produced from the vaccine seed strain [10]. The Madin-Darby canine kidney (MDCK) cell line was chosen to produce quantities of live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV). The MDCK cell line was compared with the Vero cell line derived from kidney epithelial cells of the African green monkey and other cell lines derived from foetal lungs of humans or Rhesus monkey. Both MDCK and Vero cell lines supported high level production of LAIV for some strains of the virus while the other cell lines were less productive. However, only the MDCK cells produced quantities of all of the LAIV strains [11]. Problem with genetic instability of LAIV LAIV replicates primarily in the ciliated epithelial cells of the nasopharyngeal mucosa to induce mucosal immune responses. LAIV viruses do not replicate well at the warmer temperatures found in the lower airways and lung. In the course of replication, all LAIV viral proteins would be presented to the immune system in their native conformation and the resultant immune responses mimic those of natural infection with influenza virus [10]. A potential problem was observed in studies of LAIV as it encounters restrictive temperature in the lung. The viral polymerase function is reduced and virus replication, assembly, and release become impaired [12]. The morphology of the temperature restricted virus was affected and the virus particles contained high levels of heat shock protein. Impairment of the viral replicase is a matter of concern because replicase may create new pandemic strains. Restrictive replication of LAIV at the restrictive temperature occurs in multiple steps in the virus replication cycle [13]. Shedding of LAIV is observed in individuals between 5 to 49 years of age up to 11 days after vaccination, and vaccinated individuals were advised to avoid contact with severely inmunosuppressed individuals for a week after vaccination [14]. Millions of children may soon be vaccinated with LAIV. But there is a large deficit in scientific studies on the molecular biology of LAIV exposed to restrictive temperature. The restricted viruses are genetically unstable and may result in gene alterations that serve to seed pandemic strains of influenza. This possibility must be thoroughly investigated before we expose millions more people to such live viruses. [link to www.i-sis.org.uk] |
SnakeAirlines User ID: 749480 United States 08/19/2009 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the Squalene connection... That is the first time I have seen anything remotely connect the dots for me... I won't have any 'vaccince' at all, but now I have actual ammo... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 697440 United States 08/19/2009 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR Quoting: Only MeI've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines. Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine. That's exactly my problem. But today we've just been told we are expected to get thta shot if we want to work here. Damn, OM, I hate to hear that :( |
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Fhirinne User ID: 623339 United Kingdom 08/19/2009 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR Quoting: Only MeI've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines. Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine. That's exactly my problem. But today we've just been told we are expected to get thta shot if we want to work here. Thought it would come down to that one, been really worried for the people who cant just tell their jobs to go F themselves, but there are things that can get that crap back out the body. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 08/19/2009 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the Squalene connection... Quoting: SnakeAirlinesThat is the first time I have seen anything remotely connect the dots for me... I won't have any 'vaccince' at all, but now I have actual ammo... They'll be thymerisol in all the multi-dose vials of vaccine too....the way I see it shaping up?..there could be very well be something that is known to be real bad in just about every vaccine the gov buys....it's going to be a "Name your poison" situation. The fuckin flu vaccine is retarded any way....a very good chance the "Live Virus" vaccine which is almost always the nasal spray type CAUSES the flu season....remember when Hillary's "Shots for kids" program, or whatever it was called, more or less caused a few month delay in the availability of the seasonal flu shot because several of major manufacturers stopped producing it because of the price controls?...well magically the flu season was also delayed that year...and there about zero in the MSM about THAT corelation... Fuck that seasonal flu shot vaccine...it's just a gravy train for Big Pharma and all the Medicare providers that pump that shit into people every year. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 08/19/2009 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | May want to brush up on Human Biochemistry. Quoting: Reality420 747014The human body actually produces squalene as an important precursor. And Dr. Mercola? C'mon now. Have fun. R. Oh you mean like HE says here? Try actually reading more than first few sentances ummkay?...fuck I even bolded the relevant part on how and why the introduction of Squalene which can be a very good anti-oxidant into an un-natural pathway is freakin bad for you....seriously...engage brain before operating mouth.... Here's it is AGAIN.... >>>>>> What Squalene Does to Humans Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties. The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant. Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii] Last Edited by SHR on 08/19/2009 03:48 PM ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 239124 United States 08/19/2009 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, SHR Quoting: FhirinneI've only gotten one flu shot and spent the next months fighting one cold after another, I'm usually pretty healthy - I won't be getting any vaccines. Pretty much the same here. The sickest I've ever been was after the one time I took a flu vaccine. That's exactly my problem. But today we've just been told we are expected to get thta shot if we want to work here. Thought it would come down to that one, been really worried for the people who cant just tell their jobs to go F themselves, but there are things that can get that crap back out the body. They danced around saying that exact phrase in every way possible but the intention is crystal clear. Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
SQUALENE KILL SLOWLY User ID: 752105 Italy 08/19/2009 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SQUALENE is used also in the treatment of Alopecia Areata, a disease that cause airs to fall in patches, a friend of mine as been using this shit for years I told him now about that and he told me the doctor never ever told him the consequences of using this chemical, and he is suffering of muscles and reumatism h is 35... but only now he is connecting this with that cure. Now that is really insane, these are not doctors these bastards are all murderers. |
Aquarius 7 User ID: 736450 United States 08/19/2009 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's it is AGAIN.... Quoting: SHR>>>>>> What Squalene Does to Humans Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties. The difference between “good” and “bad” squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant. Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.[viii] . . My deepest condolences to all of you who have been damaged by squalene, or have loved ones who were damaged or lost their life from the pharma/sorcery. . . . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 239124 United States 08/19/2009 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great. My options: Keep you job and die or lose your job and "live" Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
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SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 08/19/2009 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SQUALENE is used also in the treatment of Alopecia Areata, a disease that cause airs to fall in patches, a friend of mine as been using this shit for years I told him now about that and he told me the doctor never ever told him the consequences of using this chemical, and he is suffering of muscles and reumatism h is 35... but only now he is connecting this with that cure. Now that is really insane, these are not doctors these bastards are all murderers. Quoting: SQUALENE KILL SLOWLY 752105Unfortunately most of them turned into drug pushers for big pharma....that's what this whole "Wellness" crap that is being pimped now is all about....listen carefully to what you are hearing. They get you into this "Wellcare" for diseases you might be genetically pre-disposed to...all of them are like High Cholesterol, High blood pressure, Diabetes etc etc and for most if not all?...the protocol is get you on a drug...forever. Then you become a nice little easy money generating machine. It is more profitable to have your lifespan cut if you spend a larger portion of that lifespan on their prescriptions. In fact that is the most profitable scenerio....you live 30 years buying the "Medicine"? then croak before you need any major operations or can collect your Social Security. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
mathetes User ID: 514914 United States 08/19/2009 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent info Bro And again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed for you Grandfather For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 08/19/2009 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent info Bro Quoting: mathetesAnd again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed for you Grandfather The vast majority of people are NOT going to know about things like this at all...if the people getting this vaccine are even told some pablum like statement such as "Well there are always some risks with any vaccine"..then they will be lucky they even got that. The way I see it they are slamming this one together at a record pace and using every chemical additive to stretch the doses and make it as cost effective (cheap) as possible and they are compromising on safety and quality....and that is going to affect the people who take it....little doubt there. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 239124 United States 08/19/2009 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent info Bro Quoting: SHRAnd again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed for you Grandfather The vast majority of people are NOT going to know about things like this at all...if the people getting this vaccine are even told some pablum like statement such as "Well there are always some risks with any vaccine"..then they will be lucky they even got that. The way I see it they are slamming this one together at a record pace and using every chemical additive to stretch the doses and make it as cost effective (cheap) as possible and they are compromising on safety and quality....and that is going to affect the people who take it....little doubt there. SO REALLY, I'M GONNA DIE. Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
Fhirinne User ID: 623339 United Kingdom 08/19/2009 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.vaclib.org] Am I reading this right here? That Squalene causes somekind of Cytokine storm where the body attacks it's own tissue? You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
mercury2 User ID: 187876 United States 08/19/2009 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not taking any shots or vaccines but want to say it is possible for them to kind of catch you unaware. One time a long time ago (1990?) I got bit by a stray cat, pretty deep. I finally went to urgent care because people were telling me horror stories, and it was swelling up. When I was there they did a few things then came in with a tetanus shot, put a piece of paper in front of me said here sign this and had that in my arm in just a few seconds. I had no time to think about it, and of course I was in that kind of disoriented state you get when you are injured and in an unfamiliar environment with people "in authority". I would say if you go to the doctor for something else, make damn sure you are prepared to fend off a move like that. I didn't think much about the tetanus shot at the time, or even since then, however, I did not let them talk me into rabies shots, I thought that was retarded. The damn cat did not have rabies. People worry about the stupidest shit. They didn't get anywhere with me with that. I took the wretched antibiotics though after they told me what could happen if my tendon sheath was nicked and the tendon got infected - horrors. Anyway the point is they might foist this shot on you when you aren't expecting to have to put up a fight, so forewarned is forearmed. I don't plan on being anywhere near anyone with a needle or anywhere where the situation could come up - knock wood. |
Anonymous Coward 08/19/2009 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent info Bro Quoting: Only MeAnd again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed for you Grandfather The vast majority of people are NOT going to know about things like this at all...if the people getting this vaccine are even told some pablum like statement such as "Well there are always some risks with any vaccine"..then they will be lucky they even got that. The way I see it they are slamming this one together at a record pace and using every chemical additive to stretch the doses and make it as cost effective (cheap) as possible and they are compromising on safety and quality....and that is going to affect the people who take it....little doubt there. SO REALLY, I'M GONNA DIE. I wouldn't take it. There are laws that protect you against forced vaccinations. |
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Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 239124 United States 08/19/2009 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't take it. There are laws that protect you against forced vaccinations. Quoting: Phoenix 2012They won't fire for that. They will officially fire for something else that can't be disproven. But trust me, by the way it was stated, it is very clear what they mean.\ oh well, i have a few months to worry about it. Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
Fhirinne User ID: 623339 United Kingdom 08/19/2009 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent info Bro Quoting: Phoenix 2012And again I find info here on GLP that I would have otherwise missed for you Grandfather The vast majority of people are NOT going to know about things like this at all...if the people getting this vaccine are even told some pablum like statement such as "Well there are always some risks with any vaccine"..then they will be lucky they even got that. The way I see it they are slamming this one together at a record pace and using every chemical additive to stretch the doses and make it as cost effective (cheap) as possible and they are compromising on safety and quality....and that is going to affect the people who take it....little doubt there. SO REALLY, I'M GONNA DIE. I wouldn't take it. There are laws that protect you against forced vaccinations. Wish my mother had known that one they forced her to take a flu vaccine last year but I remember it as she got real sick with the flu, only just found out they forced it though the other day like. Told her she didnt have a choice because of her health and the next thing wham they stuck it in her. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |