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Christian Trinity and Roman Triad
The Capitoline Triad was a group of three supreme deities in Roman religion who were worshipped in an elaborate temple on Rome's Capitoline Hill, the Capitolium.

Two distinct Capitoline Triads were worshipped at various times in Rome's history, both originating in ancient traditions predating the Roman Republic, but the more recent, consisting of Jupiter, Juno and Minerva and drawing heavily from Etruscan mythology, is the one most commonly referred to as the "Capitoline Triad".[1]

The earlier, more traditional Indo-European-derived triad, now known as the Archaic Triad, consisted of Jupiter, Mars and Quirinus. Both groups of deities were central to Roman worship during their respective apices of popularity.

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Romulus was deified (became a God) after death. He became Quirinus, a part of the Roman Triad:

"Then a few voices began to proclaim Romulus's divinity; the cry was taken up, and at last every man present hailed him as a god and son of a god, and prayed to him to be forever gracious and to protect his children.

The loss of the king had left the people in an uneasy mood and suspicious of the senators, and Proculus, aware of the prevalent temper, conceived the shrewd idea of addressing the Assembly.

Romulus, he declared, the father of our city descended from heaven at dawn this morning and appeared to me. In awe and reverence I stood before him, praying for permission to look upon his face without sin. "Go", he said, "and tell the Romans that by heaven's will my Rome shall be capital of the world. Let them learn to be soldiers. Let them know, and teach their children, that no power on earth can stand against Roman arms". Having spoken these words, he was taken up again into the sky."

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The Christian Trinity was promoted by.... Roman Emperors! Constantine I and Theodosius I:

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Who watched the watchers?

I mean, who is the counterfeiters? The second one found or what seems to be original. Remember things are never what they seem on the surface.
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Most Christians don't understand the Trinity because they are too influenced by catholic dogma. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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i could be wrong but i dont recall the word "trinity" in the bible. i heard of a god head.

creator, mediator and creation

father ,son, spirit.

An infinite God cannot be fully described by a finite illustration.
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the trinity in a nut shell is the influx of pagan religions

mystery schools propaganda.


and people still think jesus was born on dec.25

once again pagan influences
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The Christian Trinity was promoted by.... Roman Emperors! Constantine I and Theodosius I:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Christians embraced the trinity long before Constitine came around. This is just further dis-information and bullshit.
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the trinity in a nut shell is the influx of pagan religions

mystery schools propaganda.


and people still think jesus was born on dec.25

once again pagan influences
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Once the Roman Catholic Church was infiltrated by Pagan priesthood, then Pagan influences became to become a part of the Christian practice, I do not deny this, however, a simple course in Church History with an emphasis on Church History before 325AD would halp clear up a lot of this ignorance.

But before the pagan influence, even Jesus preached about the "comforter" and the Holy Spirit came at Pentecost, at the birth of the Christian Church 300+ years before any pagan influence showed up.
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the trinity in a nut shell is the influx of pagan religions

mystery schools propaganda.


and people still think jesus was born on dec.25

once again pagan influences
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Generalising much?
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Most Christians don't understand the Trinity because they are too influenced by catholic dogma. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Most Christians don't understand the Trinity because they are too influenced by catholic dogma. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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In your own words... If you can...
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OP, your cut and paste fails to acknowledge the pantheon of ancient Rome and how that pantheon has nothing whatsoever to do with the Christian Trinity.

You're correct in referring to the grouping of three gods as the Capitoline Triad.

Ancient Romans worshipped many gods and also adopted gods from other geographical areas in the world.

The Capitoline Triad was a grouping of three gods situated in a single temple.

These gods were separate and unequal in rank or position. They were three gods selected amd grouped from many other gods who had their own temples and forms of worship.

The Capitoline Triad or grouping was not the only Triad in ancient Rome.

The Capitoline Triad represented the three gods of worldly power. They were the gods of the wealthy patricians and nobles.

The Aventine Triad (Ceres, Liber and Libera)- were the gods of the plebeians or common people.

Rome was a very class-conscience state.

One triad for nobles.....one for the common people.

The Christian Trinity is not anything like this at all.
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OP, your cut and paste fails to acknowledge the pantheon of ancient Rome and how that pantheon has nothing whatsoever to do with the Christian Trinity.

You're correct in referring to the grouping of three gods as the Capitoline Triad.

Ancient Romans worshipped many gods and also adopted gods from other geographical areas in the world.

The Capitoline Triad was a grouping of three gods situated in a single temple.

These gods were separate and unequal in rank or position. They were three gods selected amd grouped from many other gods who had their own temples and forms of worship.

The Capitoline Triad or grouping was not the only Triad in ancient Rome.

The Capitoline Triad represented the three gods of worldly power. They were the gods of the wealthy patricians and nobles.

The Aventine Triad (Ceres, Liber and Libera)- were the gods of the plebeians or common people.

Rome was a very class-conscience state.

One triad for nobles.....one for the common people.

The Christian Trinity is not anything like this at all.
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It is interesting that the Archaic Triad puts Jupiter (as supreme God of the Universe), alongside Mars and Quirinus in a trinitarian construct. Not only that, but Quirinus is a deified man, a son of God to be worshipped. You have to take into account that this was more than 6 centuries before the adoption of the Christian Trinity doctrine.
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F.Y.I
1. "godhead" is a COMPOUND WORD NOT found in OTHER languages Translations.. or even all the English ones! THEY and OTHER English translations use Divinity . ;-)

The KJV is infamous in its use of Archaic Olde English words.. Words that have transformed with time ... some become obsolete or morph into VERY Different meanings than the ORIGINALS!!

Like the words "prick", "Dick"[Richard], "gay", and ... "godhead"!! ;-)

["GODHEAD" entomology -- c.1200, from god + Middle English -hede, Related with -"hood"--- i. e. godhood! ]

ASV Acts 17:29
Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and device of man.

CLEARLY showing that DESPITE being GOD's Children , "godHOOD" is NOT like of those Idols made by mans hand AND mind and called GOD.

PS 82:6 "I said, 'You ARE "gods"; YOU ARE ALL SONS of the Most High.' 7 "NEVER-THE-LESS YOU WILL DIE like all men.....

CLEARLY THESE "GODS " are MORTALS. :-)

2.The word " trinity " itself is NOT found ANYWHERE in the Scriptures.. and so of course NEVER SPOKEN by ANY of the Prophets OR Apostles!
Just like X-mas, Easter, Pope, Limbo , Purgatory, Queen of Heaven, Mortal Sin, Original Sin, baptism of infants, MARRYING JESUS[by NUNS].. etc.

ALL LATTER DAY CREATIONS OF MAN. ;-)
In fact "The Trinity" is VERY like "Mother of GOD" And "Queen of Heaven"! Where MARY is raised to Godhead/Godhood! USING SIMILAR LOGIC..

Mary is Mother of Jesus.. Therefore... "Mother of GOD"!!
Mary is therefore ALSO "Queen of Heaven!!
Despite the FACT that THAT was NEVER Spoken of OR Taught as such by ANY Apostle!!
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The Christian Trinity was promoted by.... Roman Emperors! Constantine I and Theodosius I:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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:-) :-) :-)
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The Christian Trinity was promoted by.... Roman Emperors! Constantine I and Theodosius I:

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