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Chaol User ID: 26079726 Luxembourg 01/09/2013 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is logic that is relative (already) allowing the dreamworld to be perceived here in the now. We talk of it like it's a "world" as if it's somewhere else. But over and over again we're reminded that it's not. It's here now in the geometry of relationships. We sense it, and have a subtle awareness of something "more" than we are currently perceiving. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11481360 I just watched that old documentary style narrative thingie from like 2004 "What the Bleep do we know?" again and I had missed (ironically, I originally dismissed them as irrelevant) quite a bit the last time I had seen it. The thing that stuck out for me (whether true or not is irrelevant) was that apparently the "natives" that saw the "Spanish" coming to what would ultimately become called the "Americas" did not originally see the boats on the horizon. They witnessed alterations like unusual waves. It was apparently the "open minded" shaman types that eventually realized what they were and upon being told what the shaman had seen, the ships were unveiled to the rest of the natives. I've come to believe that our conscious/subconscious split is as a result of our "Ego". I see the "Ego" (now) as our (perceived) past. We just don't want to let it go. Even studying all of this, so thoroughly is as a result of my "Ego's" drive to comprehend it's place within the geometry of relationships and to find meaning in itself. Every perspective is "here", "now", but we've conditioned "ourselves" to ignore anything that doesn't satisfy our "Ego" in some way. Our conscious mind from a "hypnotherapy" standpoint is separated by an illusory film from our subconscious that is referred to as the "Conscious Critical Faculty". This is as a result of our perceived past trying to make sense of our present and predict our future. We acquire this useful tool at an early age, about the time we pass our "self awareness" tests and separate "ourselves" from "others". Although there are infinite "possibilities" within the geometry of relationships, we find that they are finite within perspective. We can only experience what is most relative. If we can drop our "Ego" (our attachment to our perceived past) and allow ourselves to let the subconscious work for us without interference we will receive more of what we "wish". Chaol provides alternate tools to take place of the "critical faculty" and I am just beginning to comprehend how to integrate them (although the mere consideration of them has made them more relative and in turn caused them to integrate). He tells us the "dream world is becoming more relative" and upon reading that we automatically move one bottle closer to a perspective where we are aware of this. Ec and the Genius are still beyond my comprehension despite all the subjective evidence I have received. It just hasn't been relative enough to my perspective to allow the transition from intellectually "being aware of" and fundamentally "knowing". Every day, I spend hours meditating, daydreaming, working, studying and entertaining myself in ways I believe are relative to my perceived goal of achieving an "expanded awareness". But for what? The perspective I hold now is nearly irrelevant to the perspective I had at the beginning of this journey as I am now at the point I would have previously seen as an "expanded awareness". It (expanding awareness) doesn't stop, it will expand forever. As my past becomes less relative, it will fade like a dream I I just didn't care enough to write down. Even with Choal describing how this all comes to be in great detail with the target audience of someone ignorant to any of it, I find myself still stumped. His word's resonate with me and I see that he is right, yet I do not put forth the necessary effort to pursue his techniques to mastery. I find myself stifled by "cognitive dissonance". I am somehow wearing "ego" based "blinders" rendering me incapable of "noticing" the crumbs on my path. Then again, I pick crumbs up often. I find them everywhere I look. To say that I am incapable of noticing them is a disservice to the ones that I've been provided. It's just that I am hoping to pick one up that contains some kind of fast-acting-infectious quality that will somehow change me without allowing my "Ego"(the me I perceive myself to have been) to evaluate it's worth. Just typing that last sentence had my ego buzzing with alarms, "what if it manifests as cancer, the death of your wife or family, the fall of western civilization, a brain tumor , or more likely an inability to relate to what you care about most right now.. etc?" I want to integrate my subconscious as thoroughly as possible into my conscious mind. I see the subconscious as what Chaol refers to as the "dream world" and the conscious as what we call our relative (local) physicality. It's just that I can see (now) that this is an "Ego" based (physically oriented) "want". This is my perceived paradox. It appears that eliminating the "ego" is not an option as it seems that IS the thing that "wants". Our dream perspective (subconscious) wants for nothing, it has anything it wants in any quantity at any time in any way. Chaol, you tell us to take advantage of this with your techniques. I have a renewed interest to do so. "Time will tell." Thank you. Nicely put. Knowing without realizing you know. Kinda like life. |
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Marshwiggle User ID: 31823043 United Kingdom 01/09/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One night recently my 10 year old son seemed to be in both the dreamworld and this one simultaneously. He was very scared. He was describing things to me that he could see, but I couldn't. He also said everything was speeding up. He referred to things in the room that I could see and carried on a proper conversation with me and was obviously awake in this world. I've not witnessed or experienced anything like that before. And it is because of this thread that I choose to make sense of it like this. That, alone, is fascinating. A few years ago I would have perceived this differently and probably made it irrelevent. Exciting stuff! Last Edited by Marshwiggle on 01/09/2013 10:06 AM |
Chaol User ID: 26079726 Luxembourg 01/09/2013 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One night recently my 10 year old son seemed to be in both the dreamworld and this one simultaneously. He was very scared. He was describing things to me that he could see, but I couldn't. He also said everything was speeding up. He referred to things in the room that I could see and carried on a proper conversation with me and was obviously awake in this world. Quoting: Marshwiggle I've not witnessed or experienced anything like that before. And it is because of this thread that I choose to make sense of it like this. That, alone, is fascinating. A few years ago I would have perceived this differently and probably made it irrelevent. Exciting stuff! Where was he at the time? |
Marshwiggle User ID: 31823043 United Kingdom 01/09/2013 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jesse Sovoda No apologies needed. I agree with you, that's why I feel it's so "(sadly) predictable". I do not see us as the same "person" but I do see her as a (primary) component of myself. If she were to disappear "tomorrow" (which I almost dread noting as I believe this is a logical possibility) I would (predictably) experience it to be a tremendous "loss". She's my "best friend", my "companion" and my "love". She's my "inspiration" and my "challenge". I would "survive", of course, and the voids created by her absence ("sudden" irrelevance) would create vacuums sucking into my experience frame a new representation for perspective to fill the voids. In short, I imagine an experience like that would leave "me" filled with "regret". I'd most likely (start) by seeking to transition into a perspective where the symbol (I "wish"(fool myself into believing") her to be) is represented and still relative. (thank you Chaol for humoring me) I was hesitant to post about this. Two days ago (the day of the above post), she nearly choked to death. The Heimlich wouldn't work because (the much too large to swallow chunk of roast beef) hadn't gotten into her windpipe, and was stuck in her esophagus and the pressure kept her from breathing. It was intense, and for a moment (after my attempts to get her to shoot it across the room had failed) I thought I might lose her (thought of Chaol"s question) and yelled for the other people at the restaurant to "CALL 911!" That moment, she stopped trying to breathe she was able to force it up and out. Much later that night, we got back from a club and she was eating her left-overs (a little, drunk) and it happened to her again (and she somehow got it out herself). She didn't even bother to wake me. She even said "If I died, it'd be better for you". There is much more to the last few days, but it's all a little too personal for the web. The thing is, after this onslaught of "final destination" style experiences, she seems to have changed her perspective (or at least the way I perceive her has changed). She's (finally) appearing to be interested in hearing my perspective. Strange that, without overtly creating a "genius map", allowing the ideas to flow here (on this thread) have led me to what looks like something I've longed to experience for quite some time. Time will tell. Wow, indeed. Jesse, I've just gotten home from the ER/ICU after my partner had a very serious health issue/life-death thing come up. Will you please post next about how it all worked out great and you got a check in the mail for a million bucks? ;) I'll keep my eye out for mine, haha! Thanks everyone here. May 2013 be even more entertaining... Ready for that rom-com where they all live happily ever after. I got a genius on it <3 Everyone on this thread may have similar experiences. This is 2013, after all. Yep, me too - I had a similar experience, in that I spent a lot of time in an acute ward in hospital with one of my children over xmas / new year. All is well and all is well and all manner of things are well or something like that ;) |
Marshwiggle User ID: 31823043 United Kingdom 01/09/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One night recently my 10 year old son seemed to be in both the dreamworld and this one simultaneously. He was very scared. He was describing things to me that he could see, but I couldn't. He also said everything was speeding up. He referred to things in the room that I could see and carried on a proper conversation with me and was obviously awake in this world. Quoting: Marshwiggle I've not witnessed or experienced anything like that before. And it is because of this thread that I choose to make sense of it like this. That, alone, is fascinating. A few years ago I would have perceived this differently and probably made it irrelevent. Exciting stuff! Where was he at the time? In bed |
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Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 01/09/2013 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just think of all the things you (can) perceive once we understand how our perspective works. Quoting: Chaol Space travel? Is that all you wanted for Christmas? Heh! Nope, there's plenty more. In fact, here are some additional ones. What do you think? Thought: Capture rainwater to water houseplants Symbol: Toothpick with orange mark Space: Duck Pond Interaction: People and animals will step on it, it will be in sunight, moonlight and weather. Logic: Every Wednesday, when it is cloudy, will put 0 on spreadsheet. When rain gauge has 1" a day for 2 days in a row, will wiggle ears fast, 3X. When rain gauge has 2" in a day, 7 days in a row, will flap arms like wings, 2X, real fast. When rain gauge has 3" in a day for 3 days, will jump up and down fast and then turn a circle to the left once. Thought: See a news report on new technology @ Louisiana sinkhole Symbol: Small piece of carpet with duct tape on it Space: Mom's car Interaction: Anyone who drives the car will: talk on cell phone, listen to music, operate climate controls, talk to each other, sunlight enters windows and falls on symbol. Logic: Every Wednesday, when I hear of new innovation at sinkhole, will honk 2X like a goose. Every time I hear of something fixed at sinkhole, will do a wave 4X. When I hear the Louisiana sinkhole is fixed, will do Tarzan yell real loud, 1X. Thought: See a quiet Yellowstone seismograph chart Symbol: Small rock with yellow mark Space: Sidewalk by white dog's yard at the end of fence Interaction: People will walk by, dog will bark, exposed to weather. Logic: When see chart has settled down to charts 10 years ago, will do the Macarena dance 1X. When see charts of quieter than 10 years ago, will do 5 jumping jacks. When see reports of new technology for working with volcanoes (maybe to conduct the energy so it's used for positive results) tested at Yellowstone, will talk like Donald Duck for 30 seconds. Edit: Update: After I posted these Genius plans, I drank a glass of water and put on my shoes and coat to go for a walk. When I opened the front door to go out, it was sprinkling and I had to go get an umbrella. ;o) Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/09/2013 01:15 PM "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 01/09/2013 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not-Chaol's Theory of Relativity Quoting: Not-Chaol 1204937 No thing (symbol) has any inherent value (absolute value) of it's own, but is assigned it's value(s) through it's relationships with all other symbols. Thus, resulting in physicality as long as there is interaction. So, if we are indeed mirrors to one another, let's keep at it. How about this? Intent+non-value symbols+space+interaction (nonsensical for us since we aren't as connected to subconscious yet)+responding to manifestating of intent=physicality (Like Chaol says, INTERACTION!) Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/09/2013 01:21 PM "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 01/09/2013 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the subconscious is where we really want to go? I just think it's strange that the subconscious is in charge. How and why do we do that? Quoting: Unit3 Control is irrelevant. You are your subconscious. But what you call your subconscious interacts more, so has more of an idea of 'the big picture' (and, thus, knows where you're headed) Subconscious interacts more...how very interesting. You've told us many times how important interaction is. Would you say that those who know how the Genius and Ec works, are more aware of their subconscious then? And I have a ques. in this thread that goes along with these thoughts, if you have time. Thanks. Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 49) "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
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X Won User ID: 1407931 United States 01/09/2013 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I made some new Genius Models to complement the one I put in effect the other day: 1. Desired Perception: Entering the unit to my new job. Symbol: 3 inch piece of dow rod with a rock/quartz glued to one end and the back of a watch glued to the other with a length of connecting wire spiraled around the shaft and half of a "Merry Christmas" decoration attached to the end of the wire. Possibility: (I'm still having trouble with this element...identifying it, that is) The symbol is enveloped into a material section of an umbrella I tore apart and the whole thing was thrown onto the ground in front of the main drive to a similar workplace that I would desire to have the new job. (So is the possibility the ground, the drive/entry, or the umbrella section?? Interaction: The environment, workers leaving/entering the gate. Logic: Every time I pass by this area I will flash my lights and give a (non offensive) hand gesture out the window towards the symbol. Also, every time I enter/leave my own driveway, I will think of this symbol and envision driving into my new job. 2. Desired Perception: Reviewing Technical Schematics at my new job. Symbol: A large posterboard adorned with various representations/symbols of my colleges (e.g. transcripts, class projects/papers) and also my calendar workout schedule and a spreadsheet of organizations I want to work for and that I've applied to so far. Possibility: The posterboard is placed on an unused decorative easle in my library/gym of my house. (Again, is the possibility the easle, or is it the posterboard, or is it the room??) Interaction: It is faced in a way that it is exposed to the open room and main foyer and anyone who walks in or out of the house will see it...but mainly me and my brother on a daily basis as we read or workout. Logic: Every day I add some thing new to the poster in term s of job-related-thing. Every day I log a new workout onto the calendar with a special little symbol for that day. Everyday I stand in front of the poster before my workout and spin around 3 times then do a little dance (with jigs reserved for interview call backs). I'll log the other Genius Model later. Happy perceiving, all! |
Chaol User ID: 26079726 Luxembourg 01/09/2013 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the subconscious is where we really want to go? I just think it's strange that the subconscious is in charge. How and why do we do that? Quoting: Unit3 Control is irrelevant. You are your subconscious. But what you call your subconscious interacts more, so has more of an idea of 'the big picture' (and, thus, knows where you're headed) Subconscious interacts more...how very interesting. You've told us many times how important interaction is. Would you say that those who know how the Genius and Ec works, are more aware of their subconscious then? And I have a ques. in this thread that goes along with these thoughts, if you have time. Thanks. Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 49) I would say they're more aware that there is no actual subconscious. Sometimes the illusion of a divided self is not needed. By "interaction" I should note that I don't mean exclusively interaction with your body. It could easily be your thoughts, for example. Last Edited by Chaol on 01/09/2013 07:40 PM |
Chaol User ID: 26079726 Luxembourg 01/09/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol, Quoting: CatCarel These chemtrails are killing me, never mind the older generations. Is there an alternative to breathing? It would be much easier to simply move where there are not so many. The most heavily-laden places are in the USA. Your body has a tremendous capacity to adjust, however. (Though it does not mean that all are well from it.) Last Edited by Chaol on 01/09/2013 07:21 PM |
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Chaol User ID: 26079726 Luxembourg 01/09/2013 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just posting for posterity :-) Quoting: X Won 1407931 I made some new Genius Models to complement the one I put in effect the other day: 1. Desired Perception: Entering the unit to my new job. Symbol: 3 inch piece of dow rod with a rock/quartz glued to one end and the back of a watch glued to the other with a length of connecting wire spiraled around the shaft and half of a "Merry Christmas" decoration attached to the end of the wire. Possibility: (I'm still having trouble with this element...identifying it, that is) The symbol is enveloped into a material section of an umbrella I tore apart and the whole thing was thrown onto the ground in front of the main drive to a similar workplace that I would desire to have the new job. (So is the possibility the ground, the drive/entry, or the umbrella section?? Interaction: The environment, workers leaving/entering the gate. Logic: Every time I pass by this area I will flash my lights and give a (non offensive) hand gesture out the window towards the symbol. Also, every time I enter/leave my own driveway, I will think of this symbol and envision driving into my new job. You're becoming quite good at this, especially with your desired perspectives (e.g., "Entering the unit to my new job" and "Reviewing Technical Schematics at my new job". (Though it would also work without the "new".) An offensive hand gesture could also work and may fortify the interaction. (As I mentioned before each element has a secret life as every other. So perhaps your offensive hand gesture is related to your hating your boss at your new job? And then when you have found yourself at the perspective of your new job the hand gesture is no longer necessary, as your boss is a different person. This is a bit more advanced but I thought I would at least mention the possibility.) It seems that your possibility element is that section of the umbrella. (The umbrella then becomes part of the sidewalk, even if temporarily, and takes on some of its values so no worries there.) It seems like a good element (and creative). A similar elements could be your symbol on the ground, covered by an umbrella. But yours could also be effective. 2. Desired Perception: Reviewing Technical Schematics at my new job. Quoting: X Won 1407931 Symbol: A large posterboard adorned with various representations/symbols of my colleges (e.g. transcripts, class projects/papers) and also my calendar workout schedule and a spreadsheet of organizations I want to work for and that I've applied to so far. Possibility: The posterboard is placed on an unused decorative easle in my library/gym of my house. (Again, is the possibility the easle, or is it the posterboard, or is it the room??) Interaction: It is faced in a way that it is exposed to the open room and main foyer and anyone who walks in or out of the house will see it...but mainly me and my brother on a daily basis as we read or workout. Logic: Every day I add some thing new to the poster in term s of job-related-thing. Every day I log a new workout onto the calendar with a special little symbol for that day. Everyday I stand in front of the poster before my workout and spin around 3 times then do a little dance (with jigs reserved for interview call backs). I'll log the other Genius Model later. Happy perceiving, all! The possibility element would be the easel. This model is quite surprising and is, from what I can see, more advanced than your other model. I will not comment farther on this (to avoid confusion) but am interested to hear how it goes. |
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Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 01/09/2013 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the subconscious is where we really want to go? I just think it's strange that the subconscious is in charge. How and why do we do that? Quoting: Unit3 Control is irrelevant. You are your subconscious. But what you call your subconscious interacts more, so has more of an idea of 'the big picture' (and, thus, knows where you're headed) Subconscious interacts more...how very interesting. You've told us many times how important interaction is. Would you say that those who know how the Genius and Ec works, are more aware of their subconscious then? And I have a ques. in this thread that goes along with these thoughts, if you have time. Thanks. Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 49) I would say they're more aware that there is no actual subconscious. Sometimes the illusion of a divided self is not needed. By "interaction" I should note that I don't mean exclusively interaction with your body. It could easily be your thoughts, for example. Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious? Are some of us at the point where interaction with our thoughts is feasible? "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 01/09/2013 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol, Quoting: CatCarel These chemtrails are killing me, never mind the older generations. Is there an alternative to breathing? It would be much easier to simply move where there are not so many. The most heavily-laden places are in the USA. Your body has a tremendous capacity to adjust, however. (Though it does not mean that all are well from it.) Isn't moving from something undesirable considered resistance? "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 01/09/2013 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought I'd update. I put a symbol in my mind for extra $ for shoes yesterday (I think. Thanks LeKing for the idea.) Anyway, I just checked and I got extra $ sent to me that I wasn't expecting. And it's enough for the shoes and tax. Also, after I posted a Genius here for rain (about 3 hours ago), it's been raining ever since. ;O) Oh, yessssss. XWon, good work on your new Genius. I love the umbrella thing in front of where you want to work. Way cool! Cat, I sent you an email. ;o) "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Chaol User ID: 26079726 Luxembourg 01/09/2013 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious? Quoting: Unit3 Are some of us at the point where interaction with our thoughts is feasible? I suppose you could. And aren't you interacting with your thoughts now? (I would say that there is no difference between you and your thoughts. You don't "think". But that's an other chapter of these discussions.) |
Chaol User ID: 26079726 Luxembourg 01/09/2013 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol, Quoting: CatCarel These chemtrails are killing me, never mind the older generations. Is there an alternative to breathing? It would be much easier to simply move where there are not so many. The most heavily-laden places are in the USA. Your body has a tremendous capacity to adjust, however. (Though it does not mean that all are well from it.) Isn't moving from something undesirable considered resistance? I mean to imply living someplace where there aren't many, rather than moving away from it. Moving to escape such chemicals would be a kind of resistance. However, moving to an other place that is also relatively free of them is not really resisting, but being attracted to an other place more. However, most of us that know about all of these things (whether considered conspiracies or not) do not mind enough to do something about it. I would even propose that such experiences are desired by the subconscious by those who continue to participate in them. We often pretend that we doth protest when actually a great lot of us find it exciting and dramatic. A strange attraction, I suppose. |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 01/09/2013 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious? Quoting: Unit3 Are some of us at the point where interaction with our thoughts is feasible? I suppose you could. And aren't you interacting with your thoughts now? (I would say that there is no difference between you and your thoughts. You don't "think". But that's an other chapter of these discussions.) Okay, I'm going to see if I can come up with a Genius for that. Yes, I'm interacting with my thoughts now. You had told us previously not to use mental symbols yet. Have we crossed that threshold or am I misunderstanding something? "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Chaol User ID: 26079726 Luxembourg 01/09/2013 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious? Quoting: Unit3 Are some of us at the point where interaction with our thoughts is feasible? I suppose you could. And aren't you interacting with your thoughts now? (I would say that there is no difference between you and your thoughts. You don't "think". But that's an other chapter of these discussions.) Okay, I'm going to see if I can come up with a Genius for that. Yes, I'm interacting with my thoughts now. You had told us previously not to use mental symbols yet. Have we crossed that threshold or am I misunderstanding something? Hi. I don't think I told anyone to do anything. I have only suggestions hehe You could use mental symbols now but it may be more effective in the long run to become more familiar with more physical symbols. It's good practice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194528 United States 01/09/2013 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious? Quoting: Unit3 Are some of us at the point where interaction with our thoughts is feasible? I suppose you could. And aren't you interacting with your thoughts now? (I would say that there is no difference between you and your thoughts. You don't "think". But that's an other chapter of these discussions.) This is the perfect opening for a question I have pondered. When "un-naming" things or when refraining from "naming" things, I notice that my mind goes blank. There are no thoughts. Is this a recognition that there is actually nothing there? This is what it feels like. I do not find this to be uncomfortable at all. But I am wondering. When my mind goes blank like this, what can I do next? Is there an opportunity here to understand something? In what direction can I look when I find myself in this state of no-thought? Along this same line of questioning, does dream Self think? Does it feel emotion? Thank you. |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 01/09/2013 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol, Quoting: CatCarel These chemtrails are killing me, never mind the older generations. Is there an alternative to breathing? It would be much easier to simply move where there are not so many. The most heavily-laden places are in the USA. Your body has a tremendous capacity to adjust, however. (Though it does not mean that all are well from it.) Isn't moving from something undesirable considered resistance? I mean to imply living someplace where there aren't many, rather than moving away from it. Moving to escape such chemicals would be a kind of resistance. However, moving to an other place that is also relatively free of them is not really resisting, but being attracted to an other place more. However, most of us that know about all of these things (whether considered conspiracies or not) do not mind enough to do something about it. I would even propose that such experiences are desired by the subconscious by those who continue to participate in them. We often pretend that we doth protest when actually a great lot of us find it exciting and dramatic. A strange attraction, I suppose. Yes it is a strange attraction. We truly are into drama. It seems if the subconscious is desirous of some kind of distress such as chemtrails, that even if one moved away from them, some other "circumstance" would spring up anyway. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |