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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Now that's soul!
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I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm no different than you.

Probably doing it all for a woman?
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You would never understand, being a woman.

Go back to gossip and entertainment instead of study discipline and dedication.
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I mean i obviously make them sign non disclosure forms now and like you're aware I stay off every social media platform.

Life can be very fun when you know how to play the game.
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I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm no different than you.

Probably doing it all for a woman?
 Quoting: LKing


greys-0ksure
 Quoting: Cat Carel


You would never understand, being a woman.

Go back to gossip and entertainment instead of study discipline and dedication.
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I mean i obviously make them sign non disclosure forms now and like you're aware I stay off every social media platform.

Life can be very fun when you know how to play the game.
 Quoting: LKing


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greys-0ksure
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You would never understand, being a woman.

Go back to gossip and entertainment instead of study discipline and dedication.
 Quoting: LKing


I mean i obviously make them sign non disclosure forms now and like you're aware I stay off every social media platform.

Life can be very fun when you know how to play the game.
 Quoting: LKing


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 Quoting: Cat Carel


Strong Edit.
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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
 Quoting: chaol 183770

you are an energy being
a bll of light made from positrons
in Ramad Nilan in bucegi mountains in Romania
it is exacly the same

we make and destroy various things everyday by waving our hands
all spaces are in 1
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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
 Quoting: chaol 183770

you are an energy being
a bll of light made from positrons
in Ramad Nilan in bucegi mountains in Romania
it is exacly the same

we make and destroy various things everyday by waving our hands
all spaces are in 1
 Quoting: Apollo 77872929



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When you're perceiving the Sun, for example, you're actually perceiving another yourself, not how the Sun actually is. (This isn't new age talk. It's scientific 'fact')
 Quoting: Chaol 1175482


How is no one quoting this nonsense? This is not even new-age talk, this is pure neo-advaita religious gibberish. How this troll even says this is "scientific fact"??? This is a trolling act or what?

The sun is not a "self" and it's not another "you". The sun is the sun and you do actually perceive it how it is, otherwise you perceive what? Even if you didn't perceive it entirely how it is (indirect realism) the sun would still not be another yourself, this is made up religious advaita-talk added by him. Pure nonsense.

Those who claim that personal awareness and individual consciousness are illusions do not know what they are talking about.

rant
 Quoting: demantix


That statement was about not being able to perceive the Sun directly (for what it is). When you perceive the Sun you are interpreting signals, not perceiving directly.

That is, indeed, scientific fact. It's how the senses work.

But welcome back. If you really thought it was religious alphabeta talk, I suppose you wouldn't continue to visit.
 Quoting: Kore



No, I didn't think it was religious crackpottery, it indeed is. Actually, you're arguing subjective idealism claiming it's science when it's obviously not.
You claimed "when you see the sun you're interpreting signals", this is obviously false, if this was true, you wouldn't need eyes and its billions of cells and functions to see, only a small hole in your head that would receive signals from the sun and interpret what is out there, no. You eyes are 98% responsible for your vision (98% vision problems occur in the eyes), your brain is just the processor of what your eyes detect. Yes, color is real and part of the material world, for your frustration.

And please, cut off that stupid idioticy "when you see the sun you look at your reflection" or whatever religious unscientific woo this even means. EVEN IF you subjective idealism was true, that still wouldn't mean the sun is part of yourself or whatever you're getting this religious woo claim.
Let's imagine this fake situtation, let's inagine we didn't need eyes to see, we just had a ball in our head that would receive red wavelenght signals from outside, and the rest the brain would do, only brightness and light would be external, color would be more of a hallucination of your brain. That would still have NOTHING to do with the sun being entangled with you, or having your essence. The sun would still exist independent of yiu, YOU WOULD STILL BE RECEIVING SIGNALS FROM OUTSIDE, the sun would still not be a quantum reflection of you, signals are still coming from outside you not from inside, if there was nothing there, there wouldn't be a need for you to have a ball to receive anything external, it's outside-in. Let that sink in.

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What a bunch of BS...what an absolute BS every single thing you wrote here....cut out this solipsistic bs.
 Quoting: demantus2


Thank you for sharing your morning bath with us.

...consciousness is the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings, the awareness or perception of something by a person........so you perceiving 'one consciousness' is subjective and wrong
 Quoting: demantus2

So, what do you mean when you say you are aware of my (the Other) existence? that I exist? Can you have an experience outside you consciousness?

"..since you interact with many...billions... consciousnesses of others.."
 Quoting: demantus2

So, what is it? Do you interact with your consciousness, with billion consciousnesses, or with "One" consciousness?
Or is it all the same?


...cut out this solipsistic bs...these absurd solipsistic statements...these false solipsistic lies
 Quoting: demantus2


Since you are a philosophy savvy, how do you know it is not Subjective Idealism? Do you know their differences? Do you know their assumptions and where they come from?
Do you know yours?

I mean, c'mon people, why are you not confronting this guy with real logic... and everyone here is passive and not a SINGLE person question and debunking...any of...his absurd statements?
 Quoting: demantus2



Aw!Yesss! SINGLE Master!!!
Cum on us... fill and bless us with your wisdom.


when you perceive the sun you don't actually perceive another you, you ACTUALLY perceive the SUN. outside of you.
 Quoting: demantus2


It is been an honour sharing your morning masturbation with us. We hope you found it entertaining..
...and fulfilling enough to come back.
 Quoting: panoukos



Are you kidding me? The moment you're typing in a computer or cellphone, it's ALREADY outside your consciousness. Unless you think when you're deep asleep your cellphone suddenly ceases to exist and re-appears only when you wake up and regain your consciousness, but then you'll have to explain how can you let something gradually downloading through the night while you sleep, if your cellphone was dependent on your consciousness to exist and wasn't totally external to your consciousness.

No, I don't interact with "billion consciousnessess", I interact with normal people of my everyday life, on internet or around me in Real Life situations, like any normal person.

Your personal attacks are of no value for me, it's as vague as Chaol's misunderstanding of quantum mechanics.
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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
 Quoting: chaol 183770

you are an energy being
a bll of light made from positrons
in Ramad Nilan in bucegi mountains in Romania
it is exacly the same

we make and destroy various things everyday by waving our hands
all spaces are in 1
 Quoting: Apollo 77872929


What do you mean by "are in 1"? One what?
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How anyone claims to know things exist even when not observing them is beyond me. How would you know????

Reality is frightening! Argh!


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What is beyond me is your stupidity.
If this wasn't true, we wouldn't let our computers doing stuff when we weren't at home, as it wouldnt do stuff because it would cease to exist. A camera would film only geometry waveforms if you werent there to see, according to chaol. But this isnt true in reality.

Are u really this gullible or your brain is melting?
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I disagree.
Each person creates his or her own sun in their mind.

You perceive a limited scope of colors within 3 dimensions, via your eyes. That input gets translated in your brain. It is nowhere near a subjective unchanging sun we perceive. And we cannot even “see” all of it.
 Quoting: tuuur


False. The brain isn't creating anything (it's not adding new info from what the eyes is getting), it's SIMPLY processing so that you can make sense of what you see and then perceive. Your eyes are sensing and you're perceiving. Try again.
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What a bunch of BS...what an absolute BS every single thing you wrote here....cut out this solipsistic bs.
 Quoting: demantus2


Thank you for sharing your morning bath with us.

...consciousness is the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings, the awareness or perception of something by a person........so you perceiving 'one consciousness' is subjective and wrong
 Quoting: demantus2

So, what do you mean when you say you are aware of my (the Other) existence? that I exist? Can you have an experience outside you consciousness?

"..since you interact with many...billions... consciousnesses of others.."
 Quoting: demantus2

So, what is it? Do you interact with your consciousness, with billion consciousnesses, or with "One" consciousness?
Or is it all the same?


...cut out this solipsistic bs...these absurd solipsistic statements...these false solipsistic lies
 Quoting: demantus2


Since you are a philosophy savvy, how do you know it is not Subjective Idealism? Do you know their differences? Do you know their assumptions and where they come from?
Do you know yours?

I mean, c'mon people, why are you not confronting this guy with real logic... and everyone here is passive and not a SINGLE person question and debunking...any of...his absurd statements?
 Quoting: demantus2



Aw!Yesss! SINGLE Master!!!
Cum on us... fill and bless us with your wisdom.


when you perceive the sun you don't actually perceive another you, you ACTUALLY perceive the SUN. outside of you.
 Quoting: demantus2


It is been an honour sharing your morning masturbation with us. We hope you found it entertaining..
...and fulfilling enough to come back.
 Quoting: panoukos



Are you kidding me? The moment you're typing in a computer or cellphone, it's ALREADY outside your consciousness. Unless you think when you're deep asleep your cellphone suddenly ceases to exist and re-appears only when you wake up and regain your consciousness, but then you'll have to explain how can you let something gradually downloading through the night while you sleep, if your cellphone was dependent on your consciousness to exist and wasn't totally external to your consciousness.

No, I don't interact with "billion consciousnessess", I interact with normal people of my everyday life, on internet or around me in Real Life situations, like any normal person.
 Quoting: demantix


And what does any “normal person” exist of?
Billions of cells.
Don’t you agree every cell does have its consciousness?
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I disagree.
Each person creates his or her own sun in their mind.

You perceive a limited scope of colors within 3 dimensions, via your eyes. That input gets translated in your brain. It is nowhere near a subjective unchanging sun we perceive. And we cannot even “see” all of it.
 Quoting: tuuur


False. The brain isn't creating anything (it's not adding new info from what the eyes is getting), it's SIMPLY processing so that you can make sense of what you see and then perceive. Your eyes are sensing and you're perceiving. Try again.
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Let’s agree to disagree.
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What a bunch of BS...what an absolute BS every single thing you wrote here....cut out this solipsistic bs.
 Quoting: demantus2


Thank you for sharing your morning bath with us.

...consciousness is the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings, the awareness or perception of something by a person........so you perceiving 'one consciousness' is subjective and wrong
 Quoting: demantus2

So, what do you mean when you say you are aware of my (the Other) existence? that I exist? Can you have an experience outside you consciousness?

"..since you interact with many...billions... consciousnesses of others.."
 Quoting: demantus2

So, what is it? Do you interact with your consciousness, with billion consciousnesses, or with "One" consciousness?
Or is it all the same?


...cut out this solipsistic bs...these absurd solipsistic statements...these false solipsistic lies
 Quoting: demantus2


Since you are a philosophy savvy, how do you know it is not Subjective Idealism? Do you know their differences? Do you know their assumptions and where they come from?
Do you know yours?

I mean, c'mon people, why are you not confronting this guy with real logic... and everyone here is passive and not a SINGLE person question and debunking...any of...his absurd statements?
 Quoting: demantus2



Aw!Yesss! SINGLE Master!!!
Cum on us... fill and bless us with your wisdom.


when you perceive the sun you don't actually perceive another you, you ACTUALLY perceive the SUN. outside of you.
 Quoting: demantus2


It is been an honour sharing your morning masturbation with us. We hope you found it entertaining..
...and fulfilling enough to come back.
 Quoting: panoukos



Are you kidding me? The moment you're typing in a computer or cellphone, it's ALREADY outside your consciousness. Unless you think when you're deep asleep your cellphone suddenly ceases to exist and re-appears only when you wake up and regain your consciousness, but then you'll have to explain how can you let something gradually downloading through the night while you sleep, if your cellphone was dependent on your consciousness to exist and wasn't totally external to your consciousness.

No, I don't interact with "billion consciousnessess", I interact with normal people of my everyday life, on internet or around me in Real Life situations, like any normal person.
 Quoting: demantix


And what does any “normal person” exist of?
Billions of cells.
Don’t you agree every cell does have its consciousness?
 Quoting: tuuur


Now, foeget about the physics of the eyes, and see from the experimental point of view. Weren't you saying the sun is not the sun but an "extension" of you???
neti neti method disproves it.
You have a feeling, the feeling passes, you stay. You see the sun, you close your eyes, the sun disappears from your sight, you remain. The sun is not part of you, as you didn't disappear with the sun, you're the unchanging observer, the sun comes and goes, you remain in your centrality. You know this is true
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Thank you for sharing your morning bath with us.

...

So, what do you mean when you say you are aware of my (the Other) existence? that I exist? Can you have an experience outside you consciousness?

...

So, what is it? Do you interact with your consciousness, with billion consciousnesses, or with "One" consciousness?
Or is it all the same?


...


Since you are a philosophy savvy, how do you know it is not Subjective Idealism? Do you know their differences? Do you know their assumptions and where they come from?
Do you know yours?

...



Aw!Yesss! SINGLE Master!!!
Cum on us... fill and bless us with your wisdom.


...


It is been an honour sharing your morning masturbation with us. We hope you found it entertaining..
...and fulfilling enough to come back.
 Quoting: panoukos



Are you kidding me? The moment you're typing in a computer or cellphone, it's ALREADY outside your consciousness. Unless you think when you're deep asleep your cellphone suddenly ceases to exist and re-appears only when you wake up and regain your consciousness, but then you'll have to explain how can you let something gradually downloading through the night while you sleep, if your cellphone was dependent on your consciousness to exist and wasn't totally external to your consciousness.

No, I don't interact with "billion consciousnessess", I interact with normal people of my everyday life, on internet or around me in Real Life situations, like any normal person.
 Quoting: demantix


And what does any “normal person” exist of?
Billions of cells.
Don’t you agree every cell does have its consciousness?
 Quoting: tuuur


Now, foeget about the physics of the eyes, and see from the experimental point of view. Weren't you saying the sun is not the sun but an "extension" of you???
neti neti method disproves it.
You have a feeling, the feeling passes, you stay. You see the sun, you close your eyes, the sun disappears from your sight, you remain. The sun is not part of you, as you didn't disappear with the sun, you're the unchanging observer, the sun comes and goes, you remain in your centrality. You know this is true
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77893750


I mean more like the sun mirroring yourself and not entirely independent of you, as some "extension" would need to be proven, as it would be quantum, and quantum entanglement connecting your mind&self to the sun through some quantum extension has never been detected. There is not even proof all your neurons are directly connected to your self, let alone to an external object as the sun.

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Are you kidding me? The moment you're typing in a computer or cellphone, it's ALREADY outside your consciousness. Unless you think when you're deep asleep your cellphone suddenly ceases to exist and re-appears only when you wake up and regain your consciousness, but then you'll have to explain how can you let something gradually downloading through the night while you sleep, if your cellphone was dependent on your consciousness to exist and wasn't totally external to your consciousness.

No, I don't interact with "billion consciousnessess", I interact with normal people of my everyday life, on internet or around me in Real Life situations, like any normal person.
 Quoting: demantix


And what does any “normal person” exist of?
Billions of cells.
Don’t you agree every cell does have its consciousness?
 Quoting: tuuur


Now, foeget about the physics of the eyes, and see from the experimental point of view. Weren't you saying the sun is not the sun but an "extension" of you???
neti neti method disproves it.
You have a feeling, the feeling passes, you stay. You see the sun, you close your eyes, the sun disappears from your sight, you remain. The sun is not part of you, as you didn't disappear with the sun, you're the unchanging observer, the sun comes and goes, you remain in your centrality. You know this is true
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77893750


I mean more like the sun mirroring yourself and not entirely independent of you, as some "extension" would need to be proven, as it would be quantum, and quantum entanglement connecting your mind&self to the sun through some quantum extension has never been detected. There is not even proof all your neurons are directly connected to your self, let alone to an external object as the sun.
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Is there proof for your belief system?
Do you need proof? If so, why?
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And what does any “normal person” exist of?
Billions of cells.
Don’t you agree every cell does have its consciousness?
 Quoting: tuuur


Now, foeget about the physics of the eyes, and see from the experimental point of view. Weren't you saying the sun is not the sun but an "extension" of you???
neti neti method disproves it.
You have a feeling, the feeling passes, you stay. You see the sun, you close your eyes, the sun disappears from your sight, you remain. The sun is not part of you, as you didn't disappear with the sun, you're the unchanging observer, the sun comes and goes, you remain in your centrality. You know this is true
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77893750


I mean more like the sun mirroring yourself and not entirely independent of you, as some "extension" would need to be proven, as it would be quantum, and quantum entanglement connecting your mind&self to the sun through some quantum extension has never been detected. There is not even proof all your neurons are directly connected to your self, let alone to an external object as the sun.
 Quoting: demantix


Is there proof for your belief system?
Do you need proof? If so, why?
 Quoting: tuuur


My belief system? This is not a belief system son, I'm actually helping to sweep horseshit from this website. It helps simpletons ya know
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i dont get it what do you mean consciousness does not exist? if consciousness didnt exist in your world then how did you become conscious all of a sudden?? thats the only thing about it that sounds like bs to me.. but i am aware there are plenty of alternate universes for i have died and came into a differant alternate a few times within this incarnation but always came to the next nearest reality to the one i was in before so it was practically the same place only slightly varied.. explain to me how you have no consciousness?
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Hi.

This is because you cannot perceive anything directly.

You can only be aware of the relationships, like comparing one thing to another.

When you're perceiving the Sun, for example, you're actually perceiving yourself, not how the Sun actually is. (This isn't new age talk. It's scientific 'fact')

And so it's the same when you're perceiving anything else.

The awareness is an illusion. We can't really be aware of something.

It's a lot deeper than this, but that's the general idea.
 Quoting: Chaol 1175482


I know where this shill is coming from! Exactly promoting and spamming these false solipsistic lies everywhere on the internet, also on facebook, skeptic forums and philosophyforums.

Scientific Fact? OHHH BOY, and not a single person here questions this??? No, when you perceive the sun you don't actually perceive another you, you ACTUALLY perceive the SUN. outside of you. get over it SHILL.

What makes me mad is that everyone here is passive and not a SINGLE person question any of these absurd solipsistic statements of this person, and some other sockpupppets here.
 Quoting: demantus2


Thanks for the interaction and light entertainment this morning.

But in fact you DO NOT perceive the sun, photons on your retina activate the optic nerve which causes your occipital lobe to render your version of the sun.

[link to www.weirdoptics.com]

If the above image is shown to a child, they report seeing only dolphins, they don't have the context to render the image embedded. In that regard perception is a representation of ourselves (our context, beliefs, language)

But taking it a step further, the evolutionary model predicts there is a zero percent chance we perceive reality as it is, and instead have evolved to maximize fitness.

[link to www.quantamagazine.org (secure)]

[link to www.ted.com (secure)]
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Donald Hoffman is a religious advaita follower who have no understanding whatsoever of the physics of vision.
HOWEVER, even if what he claims was true, that still has nothing to do with what the sockpuppet mom's basement troll "Chaol" said, that when you see the sun, if you look deep, you see some "self", and.not the sun particles and its light, and etc, and claimed it's scientific 😂😂😂. No it's not scientific, it doesn't even make sense.
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Now, foeget about the physics of the eyes, and see from the experimental point of view. Weren't you saying the sun is not the sun but an "extension" of you???
neti neti method disproves it.
You have a feeling, the feeling passes, you stay. You see the sun, you close your eyes, the sun disappears from your sight, you remain. The sun is not part of you, as you didn't disappear with the sun, you're the unchanging observer, the sun comes and goes, you remain in your centrality. You know this is true
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I mean more like the sun mirroring yourself and not entirely independent of you, as some "extension" would need to be proven, as it would be quantum, and quantum entanglement connecting your mind&self to the sun through some quantum extension has never been detected. There is not even proof all your neurons are directly connected to your self, let alone to an external object as the sun.
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Is there proof for your belief system?
Do you need proof? If so, why?
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My belief system? This is not a belief system son, I'm actually helping to sweep horseshit from this website. It helps simpletons ya know
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You could start by being a mile more polite before I consider reading what you write.
Choosing a username that sounds like “demented semantics” does not help either.
Goodbye.
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Here is some Hindu/Vedic/Anunnaki/AR Bordon-esque information about the ruler of this world, KAL, and the number 666

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TEXT [C] 1992 BY W C VETSCH
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PREFACE

The title of this work is simply "TEXT". For years there have been basically two sets of books kept on the Planet Earth. The set for the elite were called "text books" and they contained the Truth. The set of books for ordinary people were known [to the elite] as X-Text which means bad text or text filled with dis-information and propaganda with just a tiny bit of real truth to give them some sense of credibility. This book is in the for real "TEXT" format and it is not just for the elite - it is for everyone - for all the humans living on the Earth everywhere without regard to Caste or race or sex or anything else. This has not been done before, and the Author must confess that he went through a good bit of "interference" from various sources in the process of preparing this book which has been his life's work. Therefore, I trust that the generations who will use this book will share with me the some of the joy and fulfillment that I have experienced in the process of preparing this material.

INTRODUCTION

The planet Earth is part of the physical universe and the physical universe is part of a system of universes [commonly called "planes"], some of which exist under the compartmentalizing quality called "time".

There are two organizational codes for the system of universes: these codes are "666" and "704".

The code 666 is the structural code for the so called "lower worlds" [which includes Earth]. These worlds are under the administration of Satan, whose proper name is Kal Niranjan.

The code 704 is the organizational code for the entire universe system [the lower and higher worlds combined] and basically means "seven over four" as there are seven spiritual planes and four planes of lower creation.

The administrator of the entire universe system lives in that area of space beyond logic, nomenclature, and mental activities. An intensely loving and benevolent creature, it has no name.

The lower worlds are called the Mental World, the Causal World, the Astral World and the Physical World. They are all under the administration of Kal Niranjan. Kal has organized these worlds in a system of repetitive reflections. Each reflection gives the impression that it is the highest reality. There are three sets of six reflections, therefore the organizational code is three sixes or 666. Since 666 does not Spell any word, scholars have wondered about this name of the Devil", however it is not a name at all but simply a mathematical representation of the structure of the lower creation.

The code 704, with letters for the numbers 7 and 4, spells "GOD". Again, GOD has no name and this is the structural code for the complete universe system, which collectively is created and maintained by 'GOD".

Now, we will get into this in a bit more detail.

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THE CODE "666"

We will now discuss the structure of the worlds under the administration of Kal Niranjan, the so called "lower worlds".

The chart below was developed by Professor Lekh Raj Puri of India.

Puri developed the structure, but was not aware of the code "666" because it is mainly a Western concept from the Christian Bible. The Bible mentions the code, but does not explain the structure.

The chart below represents the structure of the worlds of Kal Niranjan.

[Go to the website for the chart]: [link to 3108.info (secure)]


These are the three sets of six planes below the first spiritual region. There are seven spiritual planes above here. This is Kal's world and is composed of "copies of copies" or reflections.

THE CODE "704"

The code 704 is the structure of the total universe. The four is the part covered above and the seven is for the seven spiritual planes above the world of Kal.
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In Ekankar, the god of "this world" is called Kal Niranjan, the grand master of error and confusion and the separative ego. In Hunduism the god of "this world" also has a feminine side - the goddess Kali, fierce and vengeful and exacting a terrible penalty of all who violate the laws of karma.

Moloch or Kal
The entity known as Moloch of the Babylonian gods, as a Cosmic letter or concept. The concept of Moloch, a creator who devours his own children, creates his children, casts them off from himself, then devours his children for nourishment - this is Moloch. He may also be considered as the female principle, although in Babylonian mythology, this entity was cast as male.

KAL IS WATCHING YOU !
Like other spiritual teachings Rahasoami knows a big personification of all evil forces, the KAL Niranjan , the lord of time(Kala), who had fallen off because he had his own plans and now eventually lives in the (self created) astral world - in connection with Maya.

(But, as Guru Huzur admitted, hiddenly Radhasoami works in all things). This KAL is similar to the fallen Lucifer Satanas of Jacob Lorber, who was thrown down into the lower worlds after a hard examination by the lord.

But in reality it is the various forces of Maya under the influence of the atmic light and then indirect of KALA, the time, ie. the four lower planes of hinduism, with Rudra and Kali as the personification of the evil on the buddhic or causal plane.
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Does anybody remember Bashar and Daryl Anka? In one of the videos (which are no longer available), Bashar states that he and his companions had to get permission from the "Lord of this world" to access it and communicate with it.
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How anyone claims to know things exist even when not observing them is beyond me. How would you know????

Reality is frightening! Argh!


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What is beyond me is your stupidity.
If this wasn't true, we wouldn't let our computers doing stuff when we weren't at home, as it wouldnt do stuff because it would cease to exist. A camera would film only geometry waveforms if you werent there to see, according to chaol. But this isnt true in reality.

Are u really this gullible or your brain is melting?
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God damn, where did the brazil heat come from?

You did make me LOL though.
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The next phase will be announced in a few days.
Metism — Worship Your Higher Self // [link to metism.org]
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The next phase will be announced in a few days.
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See you in a few days!
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In the United States, we have Amazon and Facebook and Google.

They know everything you read, see, search, buy, and say.

Your Android or iPhone already tracks your location and reports it hundreds of times per day.

And that information is already being used for complete censorship.

With big data they know how citizens think. Control data control the people!

The U.S. has a 'social credit' system. It is called a 'credit score'. Realize that a good credit score simply means that I can get into debt/more debt and pay less usurious interest to financial entities than someone with less credit score.

Access GLP?

Lose ten points.

Post on GLP?

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