Hmmmm, LK tbh it looks like you’re evading the question by turning it into a competition about who’s gone deeper into the woods and how far. Yet everyone knows it’s not about how deep you went it’s what useful thing have you brought back for the tribe? If you come back and all you’ve got is “I went deep” ... it doesn’t benefit anyone back home. If you’re still following the rules, readin’, splorin’ and prayin’, well how is that different from chanting a name 3x or playing rub-a-dub tug on a genie lamp (whether the genie lamp is within or somewhere)?