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If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".
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If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".
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You do know that Atheists killed over 100 million people in the 20th Century don't you?
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If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".



You do know that Atheists killed over 100 million people in the 20th Century don't you?
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yeah but was it because of religion they did this? hmmm...?
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That's very interesting. I didn't know that.

Every war that has ever been waged and fought has had it's roots deeply embedded in religion.
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That's very interesting. I didn't know that.

Every war that has ever been waged and fought has had it's roots deeply embedded in religion.
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Bullshit.

Wars are big business.
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If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".
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I pick ºEATº
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Re: The most extreme, severe, most pressing thing facing humans is...
If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".



You do know that Atheists killed over 100 million people in the 20th Century don't you?


yeah but was it because of religion they did this? hmmm...?
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Neither Hitler nor Stalin were particularly religious.

Nor were the Red Chinese or Pol Pot.

I pick Statists.
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Wars are big business.
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for religious zealots...

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That's very interesting. I didn't know that.

Every war that has ever been waged and fought has had it's roots deeply embedded in religion.
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Umm Atheist Communist Nations have fought wars between themselves. Russia-China, China - Vietnam. What does World War 1 and 2 have anything to do with religion? Were the hell did you go to school?
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Every war that has ever been waged and fought has had it's roots deeply embedded in religion.
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Actually if you look closer they were all over land or resources and religion was just used as a "rallying call" to get the troops to fight.
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Help me out here OM....lol
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Re: The most extreme, severe, most pressing thing facing humans is...
Humans.
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If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".
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I pick "money".
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Re: The most extreme, severe, most pressing thing facing humans is...
Humans.
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good answer!
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If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".


I pick "money".
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Money...that's definitely up there...
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Wars are big business.




for religious zealots...
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For sociopaths. Follow the money.


Your hatred of God manifests itself in contempt for those who believe in God.
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technology that we haven't evolved to responsibly handle
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pride
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You really should read more about history before you declare all wars are due to religion.

Explain to me how World Wars One and Two were fought because of religion?
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Wars are big business.




for religious zealots...



For sociopaths. Follow the money.


Your hatred of God manifests itself in contempt for those who believe in God.
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I don't hate God, I just don't believe there is one.
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That's very interesting. I didn't know that.

Every war that has ever been waged and fought has had it's roots deeply embedded in religion.
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Were did you go to school? My answer is Poor Education.
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You really should read more about history before you declare all wars are due to religion.

Explain to me how World Wars One and Two were fought because of religion?
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Religion is always lurking there somewhere. Religion is the population deluding themselves into believing something that isn't true, and basing their entire lives around it.

Maybe *All* wars haven't been fought in the name of religion, therefore I will change my wording to say "Most" wars have religion at their roots.
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I don't hate God, I just don't believe there is one.
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Fair enough. Free will.
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You really should read more about history before you declare all wars are due to religion.

Explain to me how World Wars One and Two were fought because of religion?



Religion is always lurking there somewhere. Religion is the population deluding themselves into believing something that isn't true, and basing their entire lives around it.

Maybe *All* wars haven't been fought in the name of religion, therefore I will change my wording to say "Most" wars have religion at their roots.
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So the 2 Largest Bloodiest Wars in Human history were not fought over religion yet you still cling to your statement.
Do you have a 2nd Grade education in History?


How can two atheist countries fight a war over religion as in the Sino-Vietmanese war? (My guess is you never even new this war happened)

How was the American Civil War over religion?

How was the Punic Wars over religion?

How were the Napoleanic Wars over religion?

In fact name 1 war besides the Crusades and "War on Terror" that can be proven to fought over religion?

Heck even the Israeli-Arab Wars are more over territory and nationalism then anything religious.
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mankind
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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You really should read more about history before you declare all wars are due to religion.

Explain to me how World Wars One and Two were fought because of religion?



Religion is always lurking there somewhere. Religion is the population deluding themselves into believing something that isn't true, and basing their entire lives around it.

Maybe *All* wars haven't been fought in the name of religion, therefore I will change my wording to say "Most" wars have religion at their roots.
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I understand your point, but...

Wars are fought for a variety of reasons: population pressures, resources, religion, ego, what have you. Sure, religion is typically embedded deeply in most countries that go to war, but that is part of the cultural identity. It isn't really fair to say that it was the root of the war.

Now, if you want to talk about the potential damage that can come from the blending of religion and power, then your thread can get back on track: tons of examples from Muslim and Christian history to enjoy!
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If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".
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- Israelite conquest of Canaan
- Islamic expansion
- The Crusades
- The Thirty Year's War
- The French Revolution
- The Taiping Rebellion, and the similar Muslim one which I can't remember the name for
- WW2 (Holocaust primarily)
- Lord's Resistance Army
- Lebanese Civil War
- Algerian War of Independence and Civil War
- Iranian Revolution

[link to uk.answers.yahoo.com]

The Wars of Religion, Part I
[link to www.lepg.org]

World War II, The War of Jenkin's Ear, World War I, The Austro-Prussian War, the Franco-Prussian War, The Soviet-Polish War, the Napoleonic Wars.

I got a masters in European History, focus on military history. Dawkins is full of it on this part. There really wasn't a religious dimension to these modern wars.

However, religious wars include, the Thirty Years War, the English Civil War, the persecution of the Hugenots, the Reconquista, the Crusades, the Yellow Turban Rebellion.

[link to ask.metafilter.com]
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Many wars that are not religious wars often still include elements of religion, such as priests blessing battleships. Differences in religion can further inflame a war being fought for other reasons. Historically, temples have been destroyed to weaken the morale of the opponent, even when the war itself is not being waged over religious ideals.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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- Israelite conquest of Canaan
- Islamic expansion
- The Crusades
- The Thirty Year's War
- The French Revolution
- The Taiping Rebellion, and the similar Muslim one which I can't remember the name for
- WW2 (Holocaust primarily)
- Lord's Resistance Army
- Lebanese Civil War
- Algerian War of Independence and Civil War
- Iranian Revolution

[link to uk.answers.yahoo.com]

The Wars of Religion, Part I
[link to www.lepg.org]

World War II, The War of Jenkin's Ear, World War I, The Austro-Prussian War, the Franco-Prussian War, The Soviet-Polish War, the Napoleonic Wars.

I got a masters in European History, focus on military history. Dawkins is full of it on this part. There really wasn't a religious dimension to these modern wars.

However, religious wars include, the Thirty Years War, the English Civil War, the persecution of the Hugenots, the Reconquista, the Crusades, the Yellow Turban Rebellion.

[link to ask.metafilter.com]
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-The Holocaust was a racial thing, Hitler didnt give a crap about the religious beliefs of the jews.

- Again explain how World War One and Two were religiously motivated and not motivated by Nationalism?

- How were the Napoleanic Wars motivated by religion?

- How was the Polish-Soviet motivated by religion? So athiests invade a country, that country fight back, so the war is motivated by religion?

- What the hell does relgion have to do with the Franco Prussian War?


Your belief that all war is caused by religion is as silly as a fairy tale as you believe religion to be.
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Re: The most extreme, severe, most pressing thing facing humans is...
If you only got one word to describe the most earthshattering, the most dangerous, the most dire, the most threatening thing to mankind...what one word would you choose?

I pick "Religion".
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Religion. How so? It's a threat is you believe it is. It isn't.

Peace to you. Have faith in each other. This does not mean to affiliate with any denomination or church. Know your creator and within you. It is a church of one.





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