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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to think like you, 211. I have an academic scientific background. Then I made a serious study of man´s real origins; and I was astonished to find that God DID create man. I dropped my atheism and objectivism and became a follower of Yehshua, in The Way. His words are true. You can count on them. |
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JCS (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO, from my studies, Gen. 1:1...God created the "heavens" and the earth...this was anywhere from hundreds of millions of years ago, to maybe billions of years ago. Isaiah ch 14 is clear that there was intelligent life on earth before the creation of Adam, the pre-Adamic races. Satan was cast out of heaven, fell upon the earth (he made the earth "to tremble"), and all life was destroyed. This was God´s first judgement of planet earth...the Ice Age, as described in Job ch 9 and 39. In Gen. 1 where God said "let there be light", He was granting permission for the sun to shine again...Job 9 clearly states that God refused to let the sun shine upon the earth, therefore Ice. The Genesis 1 account is His restoration of earth, not the creation of it. After He restored all of the plant life, animal life and the "continent" (there was only one body of land in this process), He created Adam and gave him dominion (soverign rule) over the entire earth and everything in it. Adam could command the wind to stop, and calm the seas, just like Jesus did. James 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you are delusional, look at geology and evolutionary biology, there is the truth, not in som old book that some old dead bearded powerhungry bastards wrote 3000 yeras ago... ------------------------------------- How does that work...I´m not a scientist or educated in that area, but when we live in a world or micro-climate, that supports life from other life..How could life be supported in the case of evolution, when other life is not there to support. How would a bird evolve with no food to eat yet , or did evolution only take a couple hours |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good observation. Yes, I would agree that the Genesis comment means that God caused the Sun to switch on. Job 9:7 is an allusion that God causes the Sun to switch off periodically. I would hazard to say that the creative ´days´ were epochs and NOT 24 hours days. OT word usage would permit this view. Those creative days may be 7000 earth years long based upon the length of the 7th day which is yet complete. The comments "an evening and a morning" appears to reference long-term cycles of chaos. Approximately every 5000-7000 years the Sun switches off and the planets wander off their course when the solar system broaches a zone on its orbit thorough the galaxy. This is the "evening" of instabilty and darkness. A "morning" or new dawning happens when the Sun switches back on and stability resumes. Also, a solar switch-off is not the only means to produce ice. Ice is currently produced via precipitation. But heat is required for precipitation. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would hazard to say that the creative ´days´ were epochs and NOT 24 hours days. OT word usage would permit this view. Those creative days may be 7000 earth years long based upon the length of the 7th day which is yet complete. ------------------------------------------ Genesis 1:5 God called the light Day, and the darkness night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. this is quite literally a 24 hour period |
The Angel (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Problem with the dating of Adam to 6000 years ago is that the first Messiah came at the Meridian of Time. I said first Messiah because the Hebrews believed that there are in fact two Messiahs. The military Messiah and the Messiah of Peace. This is why they turned on Yeshua...they were expecting the Military Messiah at the time. Their country was being occupied and their people subjugated. When Yeshua showed up they looked to him to be a military leader when he turned out to represent Peace they turned on him like so many of the disillusioned do. As to the question of science, by the very definition of science you cannot prove that something does not exist. You can only prove that you have not found it yet. Scienctists are just as guilty of lying and faking writings to prove their positions as organized religion is. Tit for tat...no wonder so many are seeking answers from those who cannot provide them. James 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. |
Ningishzidda (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Besides, everyone, even the Jews, knows that it is a poorly abridged version of older Shumerian stories. James 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. |
The Angel (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uh, a good number of Jews do believe that "crap", as you put it. Stereotyping the entire faith because of a few non-traditionalists is hardly fair. That would be like saying that all scientists believe that time is linear because I talked to one or two tards that believed it. James 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. |
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A.D.D (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | James 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. |