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Vatican Prohibits Catholics from Using “YAHWEH,” the Name of God, in Worship Services

Cardinal Arinze, the current prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship at the Vatican gave this directive August 13, 2008: “The Vatican has ruled that the Name of God, commonly rendered as “Yahweh,” should not be pronounced in the Catholic liturgy” ( [link to www.directionstoorthodoxy.org] )

The article goes on to relate that the words “the LORD” in the Bible was “Yahweh” in Hebrew. This is found also in the Catholic New American Bible (NAB). They said that in the Hebrew religion the name “Yahweh” was not spoken.

I refute that. All of the ancient Hebrew prophets of the “Old Testament” spoke God’s name “Yahweh.” In Exodus 15: 1-19, both the Hebrew prophet “Moses and the children of Israel” sang the name “Yahweh” out loud in what is called today “The Song of Moses”! God’s name “Yahweh” appears in the lyrics, sang by them, a total of 13 times, in that one song alone!

In fact, if you cannot utter “Yahweh” then you will not be among those who “have gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark.” For “they sing the song of Moses” (Revelation 15: 2-3). Moses’ song in Exodus, the one that utters Yahweh’s name in praise 13 times, will be sung by the Christians who did not take the mark of the beast! If a religious organization will not let their followers say His name Yahweh, then how are they going to sing the song of Moses? This is leading the people down the wrong path–a path to destruction.

I don’t know about you, but I want what Moses had, not what the Pharisees and Sadducees and their predesessors in Judaism had. It is obvious that they changed the worship that Moses and the prophets had! The hypocrite Pharisees in Jesus’ (Yahshua) day were sternly rebuked by the Savior: “You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do…He is a liar, and the father of it” (John 8: 44).

Speaking of His disciples, Christ said, “I have declared thy name unto them, and will declare it” (John 17: 26). Hold it right there. Christ declared His Father’s name to His disciples! And the Vatican even says that God’s name is Yahweh. And we know that Christ is our example, and that we should follow His steps and do as He did. If He spoke His Father’s name Yahweh, then we should, too.

But the Vatican says in this directive that the early Christians did not say the Father’s name. We now see that this is a falsehood. They did say it. If Christ Himself spoke the Father’s name to the earliest of Christians, the twelve apostles, then they would have, too.

The Vatican is lying to the people, saying that “Yahweh,” the precious name of the Father, is not to be used in worship! It is a lie taken from the children of the devil, the Pharisees, who hid God’s true name from the masses! Truly John the Baptist called them out properly: “You brood of vipers! (Matt. 3: 7).

We are admonished to praise God’s name scores of times in the Bible. How do you do that without saying His name? Would you say, “Praise So-and-so”? Come on, people, this is so bogus!

Time would fail us to mention the hundreds of times that “the LORD (Yahweh)” is spoken and written down by the patriarchs and prophets in the Bible.

All this is extremely important, for God will set before us “an open door” into the presence of God that no man can shut. But it is only to them who have kept His word, and has not “denied [His} name” (Revelation 3: 8).

In the decades, centuries, and millenia past, “they” got by with this hoodwinking the masses, but not this time. Many of us are bringing this lie to the light. How is prohibiting the speaking of the Father’s name ”glorifying the name of God”–which we are suppose to do? Kenneth Wayne Hancock

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Psalms 68:4 Sing unto God, sing praises to His name: extol Him that rideth upon the heavens by His name JAH, and rejoice before Him.

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That word is difficult to pronounce with due Reverance and does not appear within the Liturgy anyways.
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And this surpises you? The catholic church has nothing to do with the true God and everything to do with money power politics sex and satanism.

The pope wears a fish-head hat in homage to the infernal god Dagon.

There are hundreds of things like this.

You know men of God by their fruits. What 'fruits' are catholic priests known for in the 20th century?
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What a sad religion.
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CROWD OF WOMEN: [yelling]
JEWISH OFFICIAL: Matthias, son of Deuteronomy of Gath.
MATTHIAS: Do I say 'yes'?
STONE HELPER #1: Yes.
MATTHIAS: Yes.
OFFICIAL: You have been found guilty by the elders of the town of uttering
the name of our Lord, and so, as a blasphemer,...
CROWD: Ooooh!
OFFICIAL: ...you are to be stoned to death.
CROWD: Ahh!
MATTHIAS: Look. I-- I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was,
'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.'
CROWD: Oooooh!
OFFICIAL: Blasphemy! He's said it again!
CROWD: Yes! Yes, he did! He did!...
OFFICIAL: Did you hear him?!
CROWD: Yes! Yes, we did! We did!...
WOMAN #1: Really!
[silence]
OFFICIAL: Are there any women here today?
CROWD: No. No. No. No...
OFFICIAL: Very well. By virtue of the authority vested in me--
[CULPRIT WOMAN stones MATTHIAS]
MATTHIAS: Oww! Lay off! We haven't started yet!
OFFICIAL: Come on! Who threw that? Who threw that stone? Come on.
CROWD: She did! She did! He did! He! He. He. Him. Him. Him. Him.
He did.
CULPRIT WOMAN: Sorry. I thought we'd started.
OFFICIAL: Go to the back.
CULPRIT WOMAN: Oh, dear.
OFFICIAL: Always one, isn't there? Now, where were we?
MATTHIAS: Look. I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying
'Jehovah'.
CROWD: Oooh! He said it again! Oooh!...
OFFICIAL: You're only making it worse for yourself!
MATTHIAS: Making it worse?! How could it be worse?! Jehovah! Jehovah!
Jehovah!
CROWD: Oooooh!...
OFFICIAL: I'm warning you. If you say 'Jehovah' once more--
[MRS. A. stones OFFICIAL]
Right. Who threw that?
MATTHIAS: [laughing]
[silence]
OFFICIAL: Come on. Who threw that?
CROWD: She did! It was her! He! He. Him. Him. Him. Him. Him. Him.
OFFICIAL: Was it you?
MRS. A.: Yes.
OFFICIAL: Right!
MRS. A.: Well, you did say 'Jehovah'.
CROWD: Ah! Ooooh!...
[CROWD stones MRS. A.]
OFFICIAL: Stop! Stop, will you?! Stop that! Stop it! Now, look! No one
is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle! Do you understand?! Even,
and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say 'Jehovah'.
CROWD: Ooooooh!...
[CROWD stones OFFICIAL]
WOMAN #1: Good shot!
[clap clap clap]
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I hate that man!

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Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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What is this evil satanist worried about? Calling Jesus? It's too late my friend, your days are over, and Satan is defeated. Choose your path as the time is now. Let heaven in 5D reign beautify on earth, we welcome you.
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It's about liturgy, the celebration of faith, so it's not a ban on saying Yahweh in private.

The Jews have the same thing by the way, they are not alowed to say Yahweh durign their liturgy, they just say Lord or God.
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They removed the name from some song they sign too
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IN ANCIENT TIMES TO REMOVE ONE'S NAME WAS TO REMOVE THE PERSON .
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why he not change it with allah
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actually, i dont think the Lord cares if we call him Lord, Yahweh, Father and so on. I think its a matter THAT we call upon him.

Too many people just forget that, and dare to think to know what the Lord feels... Just keep calling Him what you like (i prefer Father)

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Good! Glad2 Hear That! Jehovha,Enlil...names change over the span of years.
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...I don't blame them. It is a perversion of His name.

YHVH - pronounced Ya ha veh is His name. (I AM THAT I AM)

It has no vowels.
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actually, i dont think the Lord cares if we call him Lord, Yahweh, Father and so on. I think its a matter THAT we call upon him.

Too many people just forget that, and dare to think to know what the Lord feels... Just keep calling Him what you like (i prefer Father)
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oh ok ill call it dog
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actually, i dont think the Lord cares if we call him Lord, Yahweh, Father and so on. I think its a matter THAT we call upon him.

Too many people just forget that, and dare to think to know what the Lord feels... Just keep calling Him what you like (i prefer Father)


oh ok ill call it dog
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Martin Luther said: whatever you cling your heart to, is your God. (bad translation -but you get the point-)

If its a dog for you, its all right with me. LOL
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That Python skit is hilarious. It does show that, even then (during the times portrayed, not the Python years heh) there were traditions about the name being forbidden to be uttered aloud. Typical Jewish tradition being allowed to seep into worship. "You teach commandments of men and make the Word of God invalid" to paraphrase the Messiah.

Yes, we may not know the correct Hebrew pronounciation, because the vowels that were used in spoken dialect were not indicated in the consonants-only written version of the language.

Lk ths sntnc wld b hrd t rd ald f y wrnt fmlr wth th lngge

But what I always wonder is why do people insist on saying YHWH translates to Yahweh in English. The Y becomes a J in English for all other Hebrew names, after all.

When's the last time you heard someone exclaim, "Yumpin' Yehoshephat!" for example.

Or mention Yoshua and the battle of Yericho.

Even Indiana Jones knew it starts with a J in English.
(I in Latin.)

Yahweh may be the Hebrew pronounciation, the English translation would correctly be Jehovah.

Yes, those people knocking on your door got it right. Doesn't mean they're right about everything, but I give them credit for naming the Name and making it known at least, as Jesus commanded his followers to do.

And yeah, the Vatican is the hand of Satan.
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...and its breakoffs are the harlot daughters.
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most christians dont even know the name of their god. How you know god if you dont know his name?
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Our heavenly Father likes to be called Abba.


Mark 14:36
"Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will."


Romans 8:15
For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father."


Galatians 4:6
Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father."


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Please please please tell me this is the Catholic church indirectly finally throwing the Old Testament out the window.
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Is it a discreet recognition that the entity spoken of in the Old Testament is not the God of Jesus?
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most christians dont even know the name of their god. How you know god if you dont know his name?

also/

In the OP s ( 765835 )post we read:

“Speaking of His disciples, Christ said, “I have declared thy name unto them, and will declare it” (John 17: 26). Hold it right there. Christ declared His Father’s name to His disciples! And the Vatican even says that God’s name is Yahweh. And we know that Christ is our example, and that we should follow His steps and do as He did. If He spoke His Father’s name Yahweh, then we should, too.

But the Vatican says in this directive that the early Christians did not say the Father’s name. We now see that this is a falsehood. They did say it. If Christ Himself spoke the Father’s name to the earliest of Christians, the twelve apostles, then they would have, too.”


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I would like to address both of these posts.

When Moses tried to lead the tribe of jews in his day, they were a wild people. Practically uncivilized and he tried for 40 years, I believe, to make them more civilized.

In the Urantia Book we read that the jews were from a tribe in North Africa which had their own god, which in the Old Testament we learn is called Yahweh, sometimes Jehovah, sometimes just referred to as the Lord.

And at the same time in North Africa there were many other tribes, and each tribe had their own god, and each tribe gave their god a specific name, to be able to distinguish between the names of the other tribe’s gods, as we here are each called by a different name to distinguish ourselves from others. Also each of these tribes very likely believed as the jews still believe, that their particular tribal god preferred them over all other people.

Its also interesting to note that the story of the famous FLOOD, with Noah, and all its details, is nearly an exact copy of a story about a similar flood written about by the Sumerians about 3,000 years earlier.
In fact I read it, and it seems to me that the only difference is that Noah’s name is different in the Sumerian story about the flood.

Now since the Sumerian story is 3000 years earlier I have to assume the jews took that story and changed it a bit, and made it “their now famous story of the flood.”
Who would know the difference?
Well today we know a lot more than they did long ago.

God has NO NAME! ..........That’s right, God has no name.

Jesus only referred to God as Father. Never Lord, Yahweh, or Jehovah.

He called Him just Father, and God.

Why would God have any name?

There is ONLY God, why would He have a name except Father?
There were no others to distinguish Himself from.

He is the Father of us all, and that is why FATHER is His only Name.
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And this surpises you? The catholic church has nothing to do with the true God and everything to do with money power politics sex and satanism.

The pope wears a fish-head hat in homage to the infernal god Dagon.

There are hundreds of things like this.

You know men of God by their fruits. What 'fruits' are catholic priests known for in the 20th century?
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bump for truth!
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The New Jerusalem Church which has authority over the Catholic church has ruled that a person may say Yahweh if they want to.


Nov 9/5
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That Python skit is hilarious. It does show that, even then (during the times portrayed, not the Python years heh) there were traditions about the name being forbidden to be uttered aloud. Typical Jewish tradition being allowed to seep into worship. "You teach commandments of men and make the Word of God invalid" to paraphrase the Messiah.

Yes, we may not know the correct Hebrew pronounciation, because the vowels that were used in spoken dialect were not indicated in the consonants-only written version of the language.

Lk ths sntnc wld b hrd t rd ald f y wrnt fmlr wth th lngge

But what I always wonder is why do people insist on saying YHWH translates to Yahweh in English. The Y becomes a J in English for all other Hebrew names, after all.

When's the last time you heard someone exclaim, "Yumpin' Yehoshephat!" for example.

Or mention Yoshua and the battle of Yericho.

Even Indiana Jones knew it starts with a J in English.
(I in Latin.)

Yahweh may be the Hebrew pronounciation, the English translation would correctly be Jehovah.

Yes, those people knocking on your door got it right. Doesn't mean they're right about everything, but I give them credit for naming the Name and making it known at least, as Jesus commanded his followers to do.

And yeah, the Vatican is the hand of Satan.
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You are a liar in regards to the introduction of the "j". Research shows that it is the "y" sound: "Yah", not "jah". Typical, mix in a lie with the truth.

Honor to YAHshua.
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great. so now you are fighting over what to call and invisible, imaginary person in the sky. sigh.
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Let us put this to rest and just call our Creator the Great I Am.
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The name Lord is so disgusting, makes me think of scumbags like Lord Rothschild, etc.





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