Vatican Prohibits Catholics from Using “YAHWEH,” the Name of God, in Worship Services | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 766056 Canada 09/08/2009 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this surpises you? The catholic church has nothing to do with the true God and everything to do with money power politics sex and satanism. The pope wears a fish-head hat in homage to the infernal god Dagon. There are hundreds of things like this. You know men of God by their fruits. What 'fruits' are catholic priests known for in the 20th century? |
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nicole User ID: 713881 United States 09/08/2009 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -Thomas Jefferson [email protected] |
"I'm not amused:&quo User ID: 433811 New Zealand 09/08/2009 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JEWISH OFFICIAL: Matthias, son of Deuteronomy of Gath. MATTHIAS: Do I say 'yes'? STONE HELPER #1: Yes. MATTHIAS: Yes. OFFICIAL: You have been found guilty by the elders of the town of uttering the name of our Lord, and so, as a blasphemer,... CROWD: Ooooh! OFFICIAL: ...you are to be stoned to death. CROWD: Ahh! MATTHIAS: Look. I-- I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.' CROWD: Oooooh! OFFICIAL: Blasphemy! He's said it again! CROWD: Yes! Yes, he did! He did!... OFFICIAL: Did you hear him?! CROWD: Yes! Yes, we did! We did!... WOMAN #1: Really! [silence] OFFICIAL: Are there any women here today? CROWD: No. No. No. No... OFFICIAL: Very well. By virtue of the authority vested in me-- [CULPRIT WOMAN stones MATTHIAS] MATTHIAS: Oww! Lay off! We haven't started yet! OFFICIAL: Come on! Who threw that? Who threw that stone? Come on. CROWD: She did! She did! He did! He! He. He. Him. Him. Him. Him. He did. CULPRIT WOMAN: Sorry. I thought we'd started. OFFICIAL: Go to the back. CULPRIT WOMAN: Oh, dear. OFFICIAL: Always one, isn't there? Now, where were we? MATTHIAS: Look. I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehovah'. CROWD: Oooh! He said it again! Oooh!... OFFICIAL: You're only making it worse for yourself! MATTHIAS: Making it worse?! How could it be worse?! Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah! CROWD: Oooooh!... OFFICIAL: I'm warning you. If you say 'Jehovah' once more-- [MRS. A. stones OFFICIAL] Right. Who threw that? MATTHIAS: [laughing] [silence] OFFICIAL: Come on. Who threw that? CROWD: She did! It was her! He! He. Him. Him. Him. Him. Him. Him. OFFICIAL: Was it you? MRS. A.: Yes. OFFICIAL: Right! MRS. A.: Well, you did say 'Jehovah'. CROWD: Ah! Ooooh!... [CROWD stones MRS. A.] OFFICIAL: Stop! Stop, will you?! Stop that! Stop it! Now, look! No one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle! Do you understand?! Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say 'Jehovah'. CROWD: Ooooooh!... [CROWD stones OFFICIAL] WOMAN #1: Good shot! [clap clap clap] |
Haile Menelik User ID: 341042 Netherlands 09/08/2009 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate that man! Last Edited by Haile Menelik on 09/08/2009 07:06 PM Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. |
TheWhiteRaven User ID: 764221 United States 09/08/2009 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is this evil satanist worried about? Calling Jesus? It's too late my friend, your days are over, and Satan is defeated. Choose your path as the time is now. Let heaven in 5D reign beautify on earth, we welcome you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 765139 Canada 09/08/2009 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's about liturgy, the celebration of faith, so it's not a ban on saying Yahweh in private. The Jews have the same thing by the way, they are not alowed to say Yahweh durign their liturgy, they just say Lord or God. |
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sleipnir User ID: 799481 Germany 10/21/2009 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, i dont think the Lord cares if we call him Lord, Yahweh, Father and so on. I think its a matter THAT we call upon him. Too many people just forget that, and dare to think to know what the Lord feels... Just keep calling Him what you like (i prefer Father) Last Edited by sleipnir on 10/21/2009 04:30 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 794476 Poland 10/21/2009 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, i dont think the Lord cares if we call him Lord, Yahweh, Father and so on. I think its a matter THAT we call upon him. Quoting: sleipnirToo many people just forget that, and dare to think to know what the Lord feels... Just keep calling Him what you like (i prefer Father) oh ok ill call it dog |
sleipnir User ID: 799481 Germany 10/21/2009 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually, i dont think the Lord cares if we call him Lord, Yahweh, Father and so on. I think its a matter THAT we call upon him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 794476Too many people just forget that, and dare to think to know what the Lord feels... Just keep calling Him what you like (i prefer Father) oh ok ill call it dog Martin Luther said: whatever you cling your heart to, is your God. (bad translation -but you get the point-) If its a dog for you, its all right with me. LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 792711 United States 10/21/2009 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That Python skit is hilarious. It does show that, even then (during the times portrayed, not the Python years heh) there were traditions about the name being forbidden to be uttered aloud. Typical Jewish tradition being allowed to seep into worship. "You teach commandments of men and make the Word of God invalid" to paraphrase the Messiah. Yes, we may not know the correct Hebrew pronounciation, because the vowels that were used in spoken dialect were not indicated in the consonants-only written version of the language. Lk ths sntnc wld b hrd t rd ald f y wrnt fmlr wth th lngge But what I always wonder is why do people insist on saying YHWH translates to Yahweh in English. The Y becomes a J in English for all other Hebrew names, after all. When's the last time you heard someone exclaim, "Yumpin' Yehoshephat!" for example. Or mention Yoshua and the battle of Yericho. Even Indiana Jones knew it starts with a J in English. (I in Latin.) Yahweh may be the Hebrew pronounciation, the English translation would correctly be Jehovah. Yes, those people knocking on your door got it right. Doesn't mean they're right about everything, but I give them credit for naming the Name and making it known at least, as Jesus commanded his followers to do. And yeah, the Vatican is the hand of Satan. |
Fantasia II Koo Koo Ka Choo User ID: 737443 United States 10/21/2009 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and its breakoffs are the harlot daughters. George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace... "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied." Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!! |
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Lotus Feet User ID: 776324 United Kingdom 10/21/2009 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our heavenly Father likes to be called Abba. Mark 14:36 "Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will." Romans 8:15 For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father." Galatians 4:6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father." Lotus i love satan |
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T of G User ID: 773272 United States 10/21/2009 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (554016) said: Re: Vatican Prohibits Catholics from Using “YAHWEH,” the Name of God, in Worship Services Quote most christians dont even know the name of their god. How you know god if you dont know his name? also/ In the OP s ( 765835 )post we read: “Speaking of His disciples, Christ said, “I have declared thy name unto them, and will declare it” (John 17: 26). Hold it right there. Christ declared His Father’s name to His disciples! And the Vatican even says that God’s name is Yahweh. And we know that Christ is our example, and that we should follow His steps and do as He did. If He spoke His Father’s name Yahweh, then we should, too. But the Vatican says in this directive that the early Christians did not say the Father’s name. We now see that this is a falsehood. They did say it. If Christ Himself spoke the Father’s name to the earliest of Christians, the twelve apostles, then they would have, too.” /////////////////// I would like to address both of these posts. When Moses tried to lead the tribe of jews in his day, they were a wild people. Practically uncivilized and he tried for 40 years, I believe, to make them more civilized. In the Urantia Book we read that the jews were from a tribe in North Africa which had their own god, which in the Old Testament we learn is called Yahweh, sometimes Jehovah, sometimes just referred to as the Lord. And at the same time in North Africa there were many other tribes, and each tribe had their own god, and each tribe gave their god a specific name, to be able to distinguish between the names of the other tribe’s gods, as we here are each called by a different name to distinguish ourselves from others. Also each of these tribes very likely believed as the jews still believe, that their particular tribal god preferred them over all other people. Its also interesting to note that the story of the famous FLOOD, with Noah, and all its details, is nearly an exact copy of a story about a similar flood written about by the Sumerians about 3,000 years earlier. In fact I read it, and it seems to me that the only difference is that Noah’s name is different in the Sumerian story about the flood. Now since the Sumerian story is 3000 years earlier I have to assume the jews took that story and changed it a bit, and made it “their now famous story of the flood.” Who would know the difference? Well today we know a lot more than they did long ago. God has NO NAME! ..........That’s right, God has no name. Jesus only referred to God as Father. Never Lord, Yahweh, or Jehovah. He called Him just Father, and God. Why would God have any name? There is ONLY God, why would He have a name except Father? There were no others to distinguish Himself from. He is the Father of us all, and that is why FATHER is His only Name. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 824478 United States 11/22/2009 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And this surpises you? The catholic church has nothing to do with the true God and everything to do with money power politics sex and satanism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 766056The pope wears a fish-head hat in homage to the infernal god Dagon. There are hundreds of things like this. You know men of God by their fruits. What 'fruits' are catholic priests known for in the 20th century? for truth! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 824478 United States 11/22/2009 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That Python skit is hilarious. It does show that, even then (during the times portrayed, not the Python years heh) there were traditions about the name being forbidden to be uttered aloud. Typical Jewish tradition being allowed to seep into worship. "You teach commandments of men and make the Word of God invalid" to paraphrase the Messiah. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 792711Yes, we may not know the correct Hebrew pronounciation, because the vowels that were used in spoken dialect were not indicated in the consonants-only written version of the language. Lk ths sntnc wld b hrd t rd ald f y wrnt fmlr wth th lngge But what I always wonder is why do people insist on saying YHWH translates to Yahweh in English. The Y becomes a J in English for all other Hebrew names, after all. When's the last time you heard someone exclaim, "Yumpin' Yehoshephat!" for example. Or mention Yoshua and the battle of Yericho. Even Indiana Jones knew it starts with a J in English. (I in Latin.) Yahweh may be the Hebrew pronounciation, the English translation would correctly be Jehovah. Yes, those people knocking on your door got it right. Doesn't mean they're right about everything, but I give them credit for naming the Name and making it known at least, as Jesus commanded his followers to do. And yeah, the Vatican is the hand of Satan. You are a liar in regards to the introduction of the "j". Research shows that it is the "y" sound: "Yah", not "jah". Typical, mix in a lie with the truth. Honor to YAHshua. |
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