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WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE - And the lies of the Mormon church from page 11.

 
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growlbear MagiChristmas,

Speaking of Mormons, if anyone would like to know more about them from a biblical point of view. The Visitors...

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Signs of the True Church 2:
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Well, how do you know?

If people around you hate you and your locked up for teachings and beleifs...chances are...your on the wrong track

Isn't that what the religious and government authorities did to Christ and the first Christians?  You're wrong!  The ruling 'establishment' in Christ's days on earth criminalized, discredited, imprisoned, and killed many who acknowledge Christ as the Messiah!  The 'establishment' that existed back then are still around, and they are still doing this!
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Unfortuneatly persecution and the killing of the Prophet is another sign of the true Church/Gospel. 

More signs indicative of a true Church:

... Within that same first century the apostles and prophets of Christianity ceased to exist, and the conflicting sects declared that they no longer needed either apostles and prophets or current revelation.

To a large extent Greek scholarship and philosophy took their place. No other excuse could be found for the absence of those pillars of the Church.

They are not needed even now, it is said by those who claim that the Bible contains the full word of God. This is sad evidence of the spiritual darkness that came into the world.

But a new day was predicted, a time when all that God had ever given in the past would be restored to earth. It was the Apostle Peter who made this prediction, saying that in the latter days all that was ever given through the prophets from the beginning of the world would be restored. (See Acts 3:21.)

So Christ’s church was destined to come back to earth. But it would arrive in the midst of these denominational conflicts, which have continued to multiply even to our own day.
When it came, how could Christ’s restored church be distinguished from all the existing denominations? How would it be recognized?

The scriptures clearly set forth definite marks of identification so that all who wish may avoid the confusion. Let us mention just a few of them.

The members of the true church anciently did not call themselves Christians, for that was but a nickname applied to them in derision by those who hated Christ. The members of the Church called themselves saints, as may be seen from various New Testament references (see Rom. 16:2; 1 Cor. 1:2), which are confirmed by Webster’s dictionary and by the Bible scholars. This, then, is one of the identification marks of the true Church. The members are called saints.

Another important sign is that the Church would be guided by constant revelation through living prophets. Amos had said that the Lord will do nothing except through his authorized prophets (see Amos 3:7). The divine Church as restored, then, will be led by living seers and revelators receiving current direction from heaven.

Paul explained this to the Ephesians when he said that the whole Church rests upon a foundation of apostles and prophets with Jesus Christ as the chief cornerstone (see Eph. 2:19–20).

He added that these apostles and prophets are to continue in the Church until we all become perfect (see Eph. 4:11–14; see also Matt. 5:48).

But prophets also were placed in the Church for the work of the ministry. This would include preaching of the word, of course, but also it would be for the selection of those who were to serve in the ministry.

Paul said that such persons must be called of God as was Aaron, who was chosen by current revelation through a living prophet (see Heb. 5:4; Ex. 28:1). Paul himself was called that way (see Acts 13:1–3). It is the divine pattern.

Then the Lord’s true church may be further identified by the fact that its ministers are called of God as was Aaron, by current revelation given to a living prophet.

This brings up the matter of communication between the Lord and his church. How could he direct his people unless he spoke to them? Such communication would constitute current revelation and would be given only in the approved manner to living prophets ministering here on earth.

These are a few of the infallible signs of the true Church. But there are others. The Church of today must be of modern origin. Does that surprise you? Not an ancient church, but of modern origin. That is a vital sign of identification of the true church.

The Apostle Peter indicated that the Church will be restored before Christ’s second coming (see Acts 3:19–21).

John the Revelator confirmed this when he said that the Restoration would occur in the hour of God’s judgment, which could relate to none other than modern times (see Rev. 14:6–7).

The Savior spoke of the same thing, adding that after the gospel is finally preached abroad as a warning to the nations, then will the end come (see Matt. 24:14). That certainly indicates modern times.

Another vital sign of the true church is that it will produce new and additional scripture, in addition to the Bible, as was the case in ancient times.

The Bible is a compilation of the books provided by ancient prophets, beginning with Moses, and then added to as each new prophet assumed his place in history. Thus the scripture became a growing thing. It was another pattern of the Lord.

That same pattern applied to New Testament times as well. Hence we have the Gospels and other scriptures of the New Testament. The Lord did not change his system.

Since the Lord is the same in all generations, the true church today also must provide new scripture in addition to the Bible.

There are various other signs of the true church too, but they are too numerous to mention in this short time. But let us say that no one isolated point can unerringly identify the Church. All the signs must be there, fitly joined together, as the Apostle Paul told the Corinthians (see 1 Cor. 1:10; see also Eph. 2:19–21; Eph. 4:11–16).

If we seek the divine church we must find in it all of these infallible marks of identification. If these signs are lacking, it is fair notice that we must look elsewhere.

We Latter-day Saints testify that the Lord’s divine church has been restored to earth as the scriptures say, that it is of modern origin, that it provides new revelation and additional scripture, and that it stands today, as anciently, upon a foundation of living apostles and prophets, with Jesus Christ himself as the chief cornerstone. - [link to www.lds.org]

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QUESTION from:Valerie Baily, Non-Denominational Christian, Age 19-34
What's the LDS church's stand on the rapture? Is there any biblical proof that the book of Mormon is true?



BOMA: That all depends on what the "rapture" is. The word does not occur in all of the holy writ. I am assuming you believe it means being caught up into heaven during the times of Tribulation.

Well, I believe the times of tribulation have already begun. There are wars and rumors of wars already. We have seen great suffering and injustice in the world from time to time already. It will continue, and get worse. A time will come when: ... - [link to mormonanswerman.blogspot.com]

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Is a Comic Strip really the best you can come up with?

Your failure to respond at least negates the need to quote for clarification which Comic Strip this post remedies.

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Make lemonade. note

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HT again has discerned divine truths that are self-evident in this modern age. sun

another do


Why should I or anyone for that matter ever take anything you say seriously, when you can't seem to crawl out of the dark ages and realize that the whole of this universe isn't just for us Earthlings!!

The universe is full of intelligent life and we humans are not the TRUE CREATORS best and brightest, in fact we are at the bottom of that list!!

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Worlds Without End
by John P. Pratt
Meridian Science Editor

Science news periodicals are now reporting strong new confirmation of the existence of planets around other suns.

Is there life like ours on other worlds? Science news periodicals are now reporting strong new confirmation of the existence of planets around other suns, which brings scientists one step closer to answering that question. But for Latter-day saints, the answer has been known to be in the affirmative since the days of the Prophet Joseph Smith.

For millennia mankind has looked into the heavens and wondered just what stars really are. In the last few centuries scientific evidence has made it clear that stars are really "suns", very much like our own sun, but so extremely far away that they appear to be mere pinpoints of light. The question then arose whether or not they have systems of planets surrounding them as our sun does. Our earth is the third planet of nine in our solar system orbiting the sun and it has all the conditions on it perfectly suited for life. Do other stars have planets, and if so, do they have life as we know it? Are inhabited worlds an extremely rare phenomenon in our universe, or very common? Scientists have debated that question for the last century or so, but now scientific evidence is coming forth to shed light on the subject.

Before 1995, there were no planets known to exist around other stars. That was not taken as proof of the non-existence of such planets, because stars are so far away that it makes detection of planets orbiting those stars to be extremely difficult, so the debates on the subject included many assumptions and much speculation. Since 1995, with today's extremely sensitive equipment, an entire parade of such planets has been discovered. These planets cannot be seen visually because their light is lost in the brighter light of their sun. Instead, they were discovered indirectly by observing the "wobbling" they cause in their sun's motion, indicated in its spectral lines. As the current (March 2000) issue of Astronomy magazine points out, there are currently a grand total of 33 extrasolar planets known, which are listed on their web site at www.astronomy.com. That issue also notes that it was only last year that the first true planetary system of more than one planet orbiting the same star was discovered. There are at least three planets orbiting the solar-type star called Upsilon Andromedae, with the middle one of the three separated from its sun at about four fifths the distance of the earth to the sun.[1]

The recent new evidence for the existence of these extrasolar planets came from an entirely different kind of observation, so it is becomes strong confirming testimony of their existence. As shown in the artist's conception picture, the light of a star has actually been observed to get dimmer as a planet moved across its disk. The relative size of the planet as shown in the picture cannot be seen directly, but can be deduced from the precise way that the star's light dims for about 3 hours every three days as reported in the February 2000 issue of Sky and Telescope:

"For the first time a planet of another star has been seen crossing the star's face, allowing astronomers to measure directly the planet's size, mass, and density. . . . The case for the existence of extrasolar planets has been clinched with the observation of an object some 30 percent larger than Jupiter crossing the face of [the star astronomers call] HD 209458 in Pegasus."[2]
Of course, while these discoveries confirm that planets exists around other suns, they are a long way from showing there is any life at all on those planets, much less life as we know it. Indeed, the presence of life has not even been discovered on our nearest celestial neighbors of the Moon, Venus or Mars.

Fortunately, the Lord has revealed to us the answers to many of these questions. One of the most mind-expanding revelations was given to Moses as the preface to the book of Genesis. The account in Genesis describes only of the creation of this earth, but before revealing that history, God made it clear that this is only one of many worlds. Moreover, the existence of man on the earth is not a mere chance occurrence, nor even a minor blip on the Lord's radar scope. Mankind's achieving eternal life is the Lord's full-time occupation, he explained to Moses:

"But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you. For behold, there are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power. And there are many that now stand, and innumerable are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me, for they are mine and I know them.

"And it came to pass that Moses spake unto the Lord, saying: Be merciful unto thy servant, O God, and tell me concerning this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, and also the heavens, and then thy servant will be content.

"And the Lord God spake unto Moses, saying: The heavens, they are many, and they cannot be numbered unto man; but they are numbered unto me, for they are mine.

"And as one earth shall pass away, and the heavens thereof even so shall another come; and there is no end to my works, neither to my words.

" For behold, this is my work and my glory-- to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

"And now, Moses, my son, I will speak unto thee concerning this earth upon which thou standest; and thou shalt write the things which I shall speak. (Moses 1:35-40)

The Lord then went on to reveal the account of the creation of the earth found in the Book of Genesis and also beginning in Moses 2. Thus we can learn in a few sentences from the Creator about the magnitude of his extensive work, far beyond what science has yet been able to discover.

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130:4 In answer to the question—Is not the reckoning of God's time, angel's time, prophet's time, and man's time, according to the planet on which they reside?

130:5 I answer, Yes. But there are no angels who minister to this earth but those who do belong or have belonged to it.

130:6 The angels do not reside on a planet like this earth;

130:7 But they reside in the presence of God, on a globe like a sea of glass and fire, where all things for their glory are manifest, past, present, and future, and are continually before the Lord.

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Missionary's Hear About Joseph Smiths Polygamy

Seems to me like it's about time for a new thread... Secret Mormon Plans to Conquer America and Control the Food Supply.



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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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The Lord Jesus Christ was commanded by God the Father to sit next to Him....until His enemies be made His footstool. Go and consider this, and you will hold an important key to understanding prophecy.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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Polygamy (Plural Marriage)

Missionary's Hear About Joseph Smiths Polygamy

Seems to me like it's about time for a new thread... Secret Mormon Plans to Conquer America and Control the Food Supply.

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A bit better than the Comic Strip. banana2

"Flee unto Zion", as the video [link to www.youtube.com]
says, because the saints ARE PREPARED to weather any storm!

Feel free to start a thread on the subject. note

The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. At certain times and for His specific purposes, God, through His prophets, has directed the practice of plural marriage (sometimes called polygamy), which means one man having more than one living wife at the same time. 

In obedience to direction from God, Latter-day Saints followed this practice for about 50 years during the 1800s but officially ceased the practice of such marriages after the Manifesto was issued by President Woodruff in 1890. Since that time, plural marriage has not been approved by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and any member adopting this practice is subject to losing his or her membership in the Church.
Additional Information
Scripture References
Church Magazine Articles
"What Are People Asking about Us?"
Gordon B. Hinckley, Ensign, Nov. 1998, 71–72 
President Hinckley answers the question, "What is the Church's position on polygamy?" 
"This Thing Was Not Done in a Corner"
Gordon B. Hinckley, Ensign, Nov. 1996, 51 
President Hinckley answers a question from Mike Wallace on revelation, particularly as it related to the ending of the practice of polygamy in the Church. 
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Genesis 29
23 And it came to pass in the evening, that he took Leah his daughter, and brought her to him; and he went in unto her.
24 And Laban gave unto his daughter Leah Zilpah his maid for an handmaid.
25 And it came to pass, that in the morning, behold, it was Leah: and he said to Laban, What is this thou hast done unto me? did not I serve with thee for Rachel? wherefore then hast thou beguiled me?
26 And Laban said, It must not be so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn.
27 Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.
28 And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
29 And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.

1 Samuel
Now there was a certain man of Ramathaim-zophim, of mount Ephraim, and his name was Elkanah, the son of Jeroham, the son of Elihu, the son of Tohu, the son of Zuph, an Ephrathite:
2 And he had two wives; the name of the one was Hannah, and the name of the other Peninnah: and Peninnah had children, but Hannah had no children.

Judges 8:30
And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.

Father Abraham, the Father of All Nations, also had more than one wife.

What does your Church have to say about the "many wives" in the bible?

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"Flee unto Zion", as the video says, because the saints ARE PREPARED to weather any storm!

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chaetin1

Yeah? I'm kinda looking forward to seeing what happens when Jesus Christ requires an accounting from you lot for the filthy Satanic lies of Joseph Smith that you accepted and continued to spread. Somehow I think that all the food and treasure that you have stockpiled in your nuclear bunkers will not be of very much use to you.

Saints! Dirty, stinking liars is more like it. The Last Generation...


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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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nikstory IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE SOLID PROOF OF MORMON LIES HERE IT IS...

Mormon Lies. 10 Plagiarised Chapters in the Pearl of Great Price Part 1 of 2



U Tube comment: Joseph Smith turns God into a liar, has Adam and Eve celebrating their fall, and drastically adds and takes away from the word of God in the Bible, in the Pearl of Great Price, this video looks at some of this and more.

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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The Truth About Mormon Temple Garments. Part 1 of 2



U Tube comment: The Truth about Mormon Temple Garments. Why is there so much confusion over Mormon temple garments? It really is a simple matter. Why is there so much confusion about this?

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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Additional Information:

The Bible indicates that Abraham, Jacob, and others of the Lord’s servants had multiple wives (see Genesis 16:1–3; 29:23–30; 30:4, 9; Judges 8:30; 1 Samuel 1:1–2). Joseph Smith asked God why He had permitted this practice and was told that God had commanded it for specific purposes. One reason given by the Lord for plural marriage is mentioned in the Book of Mormon: “If I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall [have only one wife]” (Jacob 2:30; see also v. 27).
After God revealed the doctrine of plural marriage to Joseph Smith in 1831 and commanded him to live it, the Prophet, over a period of years, cautiously taught the doctrine to some close associates. Eventually, he and a small number of Church leaders entered into plural marriages in the early years of the Church. Those who practiced plural marriage at that time, both male and female, experienced a significant trial of their faith. The practice was so foreign to them that they needed and received personal inspiration from God to help them obey the commandment.

When the Saints moved west under the direction of Brigham Young, more Latter-day Saints entered into plural marriages.
Influenced by rumors and exaggerated reports, the United States Congress, beginning in 1862, enacted a series of laws against polygamy that became increasingly harsh. By the 1880s many Latter-day Saint men were imprisoned or went into hiding.

In 1889 in the face of increasing hardships and the threat of government confiscation of Church property, including temples, Wilford Woodruff, President of the Church at the time, prayed for guidance. He was inspired to issue a document that officially ended the sanction of plural marriage by the Church. The document, called the Manifesto, was accepted by Church members in a general conference held in October 1890 and is published in the Doctrine and Covenants as Official Declaration 1 (see also “Excerpts from Three Addresses by President Wilford Woodruff Regarding the Manifesto” following Official Declaration 1).

Just as the practice of plural marriage among the Latter-day Saints began gradually, the ending of the practice after the Manifesto was also gradual. Some plural marriages were performed after the Manifesto, particularly in Mexico and Canada. In 1904, President Joseph F. Smith called for a vote from the Church membership that all post-Manifesto plural marriages be prohibited worldwide.- [link to www.lds.org]

You failed to ANSWER THE QUESTION!

What does YOUR COMIC STRIP CHURCH

have to say about the MULTIPLE WIVES in the BIBLE?

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This arguing really should stop, 1947 and Magi - it's unbecoming.

Charity.... doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
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shortly after the 6th Seal
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This arguing really should stop, 1947 and Magi - it's unbecoming.

Charity.... doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1 Corinthians 13:5
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Jesus states, "He that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another". Whether at home, at church, in business, or in the community, "such things should be done away". sun

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47 doesn't provide an answer to the "multiple wives in the bible question" because he doesn't have one.

Proves the addage that:

"An idiot will never freely admit to loosing an argument"

Two more truths laid bare.
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Jesus states, "He that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another". Whether at home, at church, in business, or in the community, "such things should be done away".

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grizzy Good, does that mean that you are going to stop spamming my threads. You have a friggin nerve, coming here with your Satanic bullsh*t then acting all sweet and innocent. You stinking hypocrite.

:z3: You should stick some tar up your tailpipe to stop all the sh*t dribbling out. 1rof1

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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could you please post a copy of your birth certificate. i doubt that you're even alive.
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shortly after the 6th Seal
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You are mixing things up. That is part of the Judgements, not the rapture.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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could you please post a copy of your birth certificate. i doubt that you're even alive.
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:z3: Anyway lets get this thread back on track. The subject is When Will The Rapture Be.

II think that the plain message from this story is that we must be ready now.

Mat 25:1 ¶ Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five [were] foolish.

Mat 25:3 They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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:z3: If you have not seen this tract before it is well worth reading. Where Did They Go?...

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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Never.
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This.

Peace.
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Jesus states, "He that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another". Whether at home, at church, in business, or in the community, "such things should be done away". sun

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There's no such text in the inspired biblical scripture.

We are to expose error and draw towards truth. Your text contradicts the given word of God.

"Magi" you should flee that Freemason infested Temple.
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WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE?


What a stupid question, there's no such word in the entire Bible.

If you mean meeting Jesus in the air, then all the xtards got it wrong.


Christian fundamentalists take things in scripture literally.

Thus when they see references to our being lifted off to "meet Jesus in the air", they define this as meaning rapture, in the sense that we will physically fly through the sky.


1 Thess.4:17 says " we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air".




That certainly does sound like an invitation to some sort of aerial adventure doesn't it ?. What is being missed however, is the fact that this scripture comes from the Greek and is filled with Greek mythological symbols.


To be caught up with " them in the clouds", means to rise with spiritual entities into the place of the unseen spirit. Clouds mystically mean, the unseen spirit.



To meet the "Lord in the air", means to receive Christ consciousness in the 2nd stage.



In Greek there are 5 stages of human consciousness.


1. The lower mind, the symbol is Earth


2. The stage of understanding truth, the symbol is Water


3. The stage of no thought, the symbol is Air



4. The stage of spiritual confrontation, the symbol is.


5. Fire, The stage of the renewed mind.


So now we have the key to understanding " rapture". We will rise in meditation above the thoughts of the carnal mind into the third stage of consciousness where we will meet "Christ in the AIR".



You arrive at the place of "Air" when you separate from thought. That's why Jesus says in Matthew 6:25 to 33 " take no thought". It is very important to achieve this place of nothingness.


To see how important it is, let us look at the construction of the temple in 1st Kings.


1 Kings Chapter 6 beginning with verse 8 describes the temple in most mystical terms. " the door for the middle chamber was in the right side of the house". Here we see that the entrance to the Holy Place is in the right hemisphere of the brain.



"they went up with winding stairs" This is Kundalini, DNA energy, the serpentine movement up the spine, (Take a look at your doctors lapel pin.)



Let us continue. .

"they went up with winding stairs " into the middle chamber, and out of the middle into the THIRD". There it is !!, the third. The place of no thought, the stage of Air, the place of Rapture.



The Apostle Paul had a "rapture" experience in 2 Corinthians, Chapter 12 verse 2. Its very interesting and worth reading " I knew a man in Christ above 14 years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell, or whether out of the body, I cannot tell), God knows, such a one caught up to the THIRD heaven.



There it is. Paul had an experience of ecstasy and was caught up to the THIRD stage of consciousness which in Greek is Air. He rose to meet Jesus in the Air.


So rather then looking outward for something that is hoped for, one should look inward far something that is real. The rapture can happen right now for you.


If you practice the single eye as Jesus ordained, you will fill with light. (god). You will fill with ecstasy and experience the presence of Christ in the third stage of consciousness.




That is the rapture. It is real and it is now.

Nightwatchman
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Jesus states, "He that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another". Whether at home, at church, in business, or in the community, "such things should be done away". sun

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There's no such text in the inspired biblical scripture.

We are to expose error and draw towards truth. Your text contradicts the given word of God.

"Magi" you should flee that Freemason infested Temple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775009


Myth # 5. The canon is closed.
Nowhere in thee books of the Bible does it say that the canon of scripture is closed. Many will refer to the last lines of Revelation to claim that the book cannot be added to. Since the Bible didn't exist at the time of the writing of the Revelation of John, it couldn't refer to the Bible as a whole. The Revelation remained a disputed book for two centuries after John penned it. Thus the commandment that it should not be added to must refer to that particular scroll which John wrote. We should understand that most scholars believe that John himself "added to" the Bible, because it is commonly believed that he wrote Revelation before the Gospel of John. The Gospel of John came AFTER the book of Revelation in the chronological sequence of Bible texts. The apostle John told us that "...there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one...that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written."

A similar interdiction against adding to God's word appears in Deuteronomy. Following the logic of those who say the Bible can't be added to because of John's statement, we must consider tossing anything that comes after Moses and Deuteronomy. Man's rejection of further revelation is an attempt to "mute" God and deny that he has power to reveal anything new or essential to mankind. It defends the status quo, having a "form of godliness" but denies the power thereof. Since the Bible itself doesn't claim to contain all God's words, it would require a revelation from God to tell us that the Bible is inerrant, sufficient, persipicacious, and the final authority in all things. Thus, you can see the quandary: it would require a revelation to tell us that there will be no more revelation. 

spock The position is logically untenable.

For more Myths about the Bible:
Thread: Myths About the Bible - UPDATE = Add Myth # 8 - doctors of Mythology respond?

Here is a link to the KJV with inspired headings, footnotes, index, and cross-references. - [link to scriptures.lds.org]

Pay Particular Attention to the JST corrections. note

MC
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WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE?


What a stupid question, there's no such word in the entire Bible.

If you mean meeting Jesus in the air, then all the xtards got it wrong.


Christian fundamentalists take things in scripture literally.

Thus when they see references to our being lifted off to "meet Jesus in the air", they define this as meaning rapture, in the sense that we will physically fly through the sky.


1 Thess.4:17 says " we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air".




That certainly does sound like an invitation to some sort of aerial adventure doesn't it ?. What is being missed however, is the fact that this scripture comes from the Greek and is filled with Greek mythological symbols.


To be caught up with " them in the clouds", means to rise with spiritual entities into the place of the unseen spirit. Clouds mystically mean, the unseen spirit.



To meet the "Lord in the air", means to receive Christ consciousness in the 2nd stage.



In Greek there are 5 stages of human consciousness.


1. The lower mind, the symbol is Earth


2. The stage of understanding truth, the symbol is Water


3. The stage of no thought, the symbol is Air



4. The stage of spiritual confrontation, the symbol is.


5. Fire, The stage of the renewed mind.


So now we have the key to understanding " rapture". We will rise in meditation above the thoughts of the carnal mind into the third stage of consciousness where we will meet "Christ in the AIR".



You arrive at the place of "Air" when you separate from thought. That's why Jesus says in Matthew 6:25 to 33 " take no thought". It is very important to achieve this place of nothingness.


To see how important it is, let us look at the construction of the temple in 1st Kings.


1 Kings Chapter 6 beginning with verse 8 describes the temple in most mystical terms. " the door for the middle chamber was in the right side of the house". Here we see that the entrance to the Holy Place is in the right hemisphere of the brain.



"they went up with winding stairs" This is Kundalini, DNA energy, the serpentine movement up the spine, (Take a look at your doctors lapel pin.)



Let us continue. .

"they went up with winding stairs " into the middle chamber, and out of the middle into the THIRD". There it is !!, the third. The place of no thought, the stage of Air, the place of Rapture.



The Apostle Paul had a "rapture" experience in 2 Corinthians, Chapter 12 verse 2. Its very interesting and worth reading " I knew a man in Christ above 14 years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell, or whether out of the body, I cannot tell), God knows, such a one caught up to the THIRD heaven.



There it is. Paul had an experience of ecstasy and was caught up to the THIRD stage of consciousness which in Greek is Air. He rose to meet Jesus in the Air.


So rather then looking outward for something that is hoped for, one should look inward far something that is real. The rapture can happen right now for you.


If you practice the single eye as Jesus ordained, you will fill with light. (god). You will fill with ecstasy and experience the presence of Christ in the third stage of consciousness.




That is the rapture. It is real and it is now.

Nightwatchman
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Exactly! very good. Unfortunately, the Op will not understand this, because she's been mind washed into believing that seeking esoteric meaning of the words written in the bible leads to satanism...how sad.
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Exactly! very good. Unfortunately, the Op will not understand this, because she's been mind washed into believing that seeking esoteric meaning of the words written in the bible leads to satanism...how sad.
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Yes, how sad. How sad that you are ignoring your only chance of salvation. Just throwing it away. If you finish up in hell you will bitterly regret your stupid thoughts and actions for the rest of eternity.

Think about this. The world is going towards hell just like the bible says. Seek the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time. Otherwise you won't need me to tell you that you are a fool. You will be telling it to yourself ten billion times, and then you can start on the next ten billion. Here He Comes!...

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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:z3: As this story also makes clear, we have to be ready at any time.


Mat 20:1 ¶ For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.

Mat 20:2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

Mat 20:3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,

Mat 20:4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.

Mat 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.

Mat 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?

Mat 20:7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, [that] shall ye receive.

Mat 20:8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them [their] hire, beginning from the last unto the first.

Mat 20:9 And when they came that [were hired] about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

Mat 20:10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.

Mat 20:11 And when they had received [it], they murmured against the goodman of the house,

Mat 20:12 Saying, These last have wrought [but] one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.

Mat 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?

Mat 20:14 Take [that] thine [is], and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

Mat 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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Do people actually believe that hundreds of Christians will suddenly disappear?

I would sure like to sell to these folks. They will buy anything!
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Jesus states, "He that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another". Whether at home, at church, in business, or in the community, "such things should be done away". sun

[link to www.lightplanet.com]

There's no such text in the inspired biblical scripture.

We are to expose error and draw towards truth. Your text contradicts the given word of God.

"Magi" you should flee that Freemason infested Temple.


Myth # 5. The canon is closed.
Nowhere in thee books of the Bible does it say that the canon of scripture is closed. Many will refer to the last lines of Revelation to claim that the book cannot be added to. Since the Bible didn't exist at the time of the writing of the Revelation of John, it couldn't refer to the Bible as a whole. The Revelation remained a disputed book for two centuries after John penned it. Thus the commandment that it should not be added to must refer to that particular scroll which John wrote. We should understand that most scholars believe that John himself "added to" the Bible, because it is commonly believed that he wrote Revelation before the Gospel of John. The Gospel of John came AFTER the book of Revelation in the chronological sequence of Bible texts. The apostle John told us that "...there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one...that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written."

A similar interdiction against adding to God's word appears in Deuteronomy. Following the logic of those who say the Bible can't be added to because of John's statement, we must consider tossing anything that comes after Moses and Deuteronomy. Man's rejection of further revelation is an attempt to "mute" God and deny that he has power to reveal anything new or essential to mankind. It defends the status quo, having a "form of godliness" but denies the power thereof. Since the Bible itself doesn't claim to contain all God's words, it would require a revelation from God to tell us that the Bible is inerrant, sufficient, persipicacious, and the final authority in all things. Thus, you can see the quandary: it would require a revelation to tell us that there will be no more revelation. 

spock The position is logically untenable.

For more Myths about the Bible:
Thread: Myths About the Bible - UPDATE = Add Myth # 8 - doctors of Mythology respond?

Here is a link to the KJV with inspired headings, footnotes, index, and cross-references. - [link to scriptures.lds.org]

Pay Particular Attention to the JST corrections. :note:

MC
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LDS myth #5 DEBUNKED by Jesus Christ!

Revelation 22:18-21 For I testify to every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add to these things, God shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifies these things said, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
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Do people actually believe that hundreds of Christians will suddenly disappear?
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:z3: Hundreds! I sure do hope that it's one heck of a lot more than that.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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could you please post a copy of your birth certificate. i doubt that you're even alive.
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:z3: Who do you think I am. President Obama?
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.





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