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F. W. NIETZSCHE
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THE ANTICHRIST


1.

—Let us look each other in the face. We are Hyperboreans—we know well enough how remote our place is. “Neither by land nor by water will you find the road to the Hyperboreans”: even Pindar,[1] in his day, knew that much about us. Beyond the North, beyond the ice, beyond death—our life, our happiness.... We have discovered that happiness; we know the way; we got our knowledge of it from thousands of years in the labyrinth. Who else has found it?—The man of today?—“I don’t know either the way out or the way in; I am whatever doesn’t know either the way out or the way in”—so sighs the man of today.... This is the sort of modernity that made us ill,—we sickened on lazy peace, cowardly compro [Page 42] mise, the whole virtuous dirtiness of the modern Yea and Nay. This tolerance and largeur of the heart that “forgives” everything because it “understands” everything is a sirocco to us. Rather live amid the ice than among modern virtues and other such south-winds!... We were brave enough; we spared neither ourselves nor others; but we were a long time finding out where to direct our courage. We grew dismal; they called us fatalists. Our fate—it was the fulness, the tension, the storing up of powers. We thirsted for the lightnings and great deeds; we kept as far as possible from the happiness of the weakling, from “resignation”... There was thunder in our air; nature, as we embodied it, became overcast—for we had not yet found the way. The formula of our happiness: a Yea, a Nay, a straight line, a goal....[1] Cf. the tenth Pythian ode. See also the fourth book of Herodotus. The Hyperboreans were a mythical people beyond the Rhipaean mountains, in the far North. They enjoyed unbroken happiness and perpetual youth.

2.
What is good?—Whatever augments the feeling of power, the will to power, power itself, in man.

What is evil?—Whatever springs from weakness.

[Page 43] What is happiness?—The feeling that power increases—that resistance is overcome.

Not contentment, but more power; not peace at any price, but war; not virtue, but efficiency (virtue in the Renaissance sense, virtu, virtue free of moral acid).


The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity. And one should help them to it.

What is more harmful than any vice?—Practical sympathy for the botched and the weak

—Christianity....


3.
The problem that I set here is not what shall replace mankind in the order of living creatures (—man is an end—): but what type of man must be bred, must be willed, as being the most valuable, the most worthy of life, the most secure guarantee of the future.

This more valuable type has appeared often enough in the past: but always as a happy accident, as an exception, never as deliberately willed. Very often it has been precisely the most feared; hitherto it has been almost the terror of terrors;—and out of that terror the [Page 44] contrary type has been willed, cultivated and attained: the domestic animal, the herd animal, the sick brute-man—the Christian....

4.
Mankind surely does not represent an evolution toward a better or stronger or higher level, as progress is now understood. This “progress” is merely a modern idea, which is to say, a false idea. The European of today, in his essential worth, falls far below the European of the Renaissance; the process of evolution does not necessarily mean elevation, enhancement, strengthening.

True enough, it succeeds in isolated and individual cases in various parts of the earth and under the most widely different cultures, and in these cases a higher type certainly manifests itself; something which, compared to mankind in the mass, appears as a sort of superman. Such happy strokes of high success have always been possible, and will remain possible, perhaps, for all time to come. Even whole races, tribes and nations may occasionally represent such lucky accidents.

[Page 45] 5.
We should not deck out and embellish Christianity: it has waged a war to the death against this higher type of man, it has put all the deepest instincts of this type under its ban, it has developed its concept of evil, of the Evil One himself, out of these instincts—the strong man as the typical reprobate, the “outcast among men.” Christianity has taken the part of all the weak, the low, the botched; it has made an ideal out of antagonism to all the self-preservative instincts of sound life; it has corrupted even the faculties of those natures that are intellectually most vigorous, by representing the highest intellectual values as sinful, as misleading, as full of temptation. The most lamentable example: the corruption of Pascal, who believed that his intellect had been destroyed by original sin, whereas it was actually destroyed by Christianity!—6.
It is a painful and tragic spectacle that rises before me: I have drawn back the curtain from the rottenness of man. This word, in my mouth, [Page 46] is at least free from one suspicion: that it involves a moral accusation against humanity. It is used—and I wish to emphasize the fact again—without any moral significance: and this is so far true that the rottenness I speak of is most apparent to me precisely in those quarters where there has been most aspiration, hitherto, toward “virtue” and “godliness.” As you probably surmise, I understand rottenness in the sense of décadence: my argument is that all the values on which mankind now fixes its highest aspirations are décadence-values.


I call an animal, a species, an individual corrupt, when it loses its instincts, when it chooses, when it prefers, what is injurious to it. A history of the “higher feelings,” the “ideals of humanity”—and it is possible that I’ll have to write it—would almost explain why man is so degenerate. Life itself appears to me as an instinct for growth, for survival, for the accumulation of forces, for power: whenever the will to power fails there is disaster. My contention is that all the highest values of humanity have been emptied of this will—that the values of décadence, of nihilism, now prevail under the holiest names.

[Page 47] 7.
Christianity is called the religion of pity.—Pity stands in opposition to all the tonic passions that augment the energy of the feeling of aliveness: it is a depressant. A man loses power when he pities. Through pity that drain upon strength which suffering works is multiplied a thousandfold. Suffering is made contagious by pity; under certain circumstances it may lead to a total sacrifice of life and living energy—a loss out of all proportion to the magnitude of the cause (—the case of the death of the Nazarene). This is the first view of it; there is, however, a still more important one. If one measures the effects of pity by the gravity of the reactions it sets up, its character as a menace to life appears in a much clearer light. Pity thwarts the whole law of evolution, which is the law of natural selection. It preserves whatever is ripe for destruction; it fights on the side of those disinherited and condemned by life; by maintaining life in so many of the botched of all kinds, it gives life itself a gloomy and dubious aspect. Mankind has ventured to call pity a virtue (—in every superior moral [Page 48] system it appears as a weakness—); going still further, it has been called the virtue, the source and foundation of all other virtues—but let us always bear in mind that this was from the standpoint of a philosophy that was nihilistic, and upon whose shield the denial of life was inscribed. Schopenhauer was right in this: that by means of pity life is denied, and made worthy of denial—pity is the technic of nihilism. Let me repeat: this depressing and contagious instinct stands against all those instincts which work for the preservation and enhancement of life: in the rôle of protector of the miserable, it is a prime agent in the promotion of décadence—pity persuades to extinction.... Of course, one doesn’t say “extinction”: one says “the other world,” or “God,” or “the true life,” or Nirvana, salvation, blessedness.... This innocent rhetoric, from the realm of religious-ethical balderdash, appears a good deal less innocent when one reflects upon the tendency that it conceals beneath sublime words: the tendency to destroy life. Schopenhauer was hostile to life: that is why pity appeared to him as a virtue.... Aristotle, as every one knows, saw in pity a sickly and dangerous [Page 49] state of mind, the remedy for which was an occasional purgative: he regarded tragedy as that purgative. The instinct of life should prompt us to seek some means of puncturing any such pathological and dangerous accumulation of pity as that appearing in Schopenhauer’s case (and also, alack, in that of our whole literary décadence, from St. Petersburg to Paris, from Tolstoi to Wagner), that it may burst and be discharged.... Nothing is more unhealthy, amid all our unhealthy modernism, than Christian pity. To be the doctors here, to be unmerciful here, to wield the knife here—all this is our business, all this is our sort of humanity, by this sign we are philosophers, we Hyperboreans!—

8.
It is necessary to say just whom we regard as our antagonists: theologians and all who have any theological blood in their veins—this is our whole philosophy.... One must have faced that menace at close hand, better still, one must have had experience of it directly and almost succumbed to it, to realize that it is not to be taken lightly (—the alleged free-thinking of our [Page 50] naturalists and physiologists seems to me to be a
joke—they have no passion about such things; they have not
suffered—). This poisoning goes a great deal further than
most people think: I find the arrogant habit of the
theologian among all who regard themselves as “idealists”—among all who, by virtue of a higher point of departure, claim a right to rise above reality, and to look upon it with suspicion.... The idealist, like the ecclesiastic, carries all sorts of lofty concepts in his hand (—and not only in his hand!); he launches them with benevolent contempt against “understanding,” “the senses,” “honor,” “good living,” “science”; he sees such things as beneath him, as pernicious and seductive forces, on which “the soul” soars as a pure thing-in-itself—as if humility, chastity, poverty, in a word, holiness, had not already done much more damage to life than all imaginable horrors and vices.... The pure soul is a pure lie.... So long as the priest, that professional denier, calumniator and poisoner of life, is accepted as a higher variety of man, there can be no answer to the question, What is truth? Truth has already been stood on its head when the obvious attorney of [Page 51] mere emptiness is mistaken for its representative....

9.
Upon this theological instinct I make war: I find the tracks of it everywhere. Whoever has theological blood in his veins is shifty and dishonourable in all things. The pathetic thing that grows out of this condition is called faith: in other words, closing one’s eyes upon one’s self once for all, to avoid suffering the sight of incurable falsehood. People erect a concept of morality, of virtue, of holiness upon this false view of all things; they ground good conscience upon faulty vision; they argue that no other sort of vision has value any more, once they have made theirs sacrosanct with the names of “God,” “salvation” and “eternity.” I unearth this theological instinct in all directions: it is the most widespread and the most subterranean form of falsehood to be found on earth. Whatever a theologian regards as true must be false: there you have almost a criterion of truth. His profound instinct of self-preservation stands against truth ever coming into honour in any way, or even getting stated. Wherever the in [Page 52] fluence of theologians is felt there is a transvaluation of values, and the concepts “true” and “false” are forced to change places: whatever is most damaging to life is there called “true,” and whatever exalts it, intensifies it, approves it, justifies it and makes it triumphant is there called “false.”... When theologians, working through the “consciences” of princes (or of peoples—), stretch out their hands for power, there is never any doubt as to the fundamental issue: the will to make an end, the nihilistic will exerts that power....

10.
Among Germans I am immediately understood when I say that theological blood is the ruin of philosophy. The Protestant pastor is the grandfather of German philosophy; Protestantism itself is its peccatum originale. Definition of Protestantism: hemiplegic paralysis of Christianity—and of reason.... One need only utter the words “Tübingen School” to get an understanding of what German philosophy is at bottom—a very artful form of theology.... The Suabians are the best liars in Germany; they lie innocently.... Why all [Page 53] the rejoicing over the appearance of Kant that went through the learned world of Germany, three-fourths of which is made up of the sons of preachers and teachers—why the German conviction still echoing, that with Kant came a change for the better? The theological instinct of German scholars made them see clearly just what had become possible again.... A backstairs leading to the old ideal stood open; the concept of the “true world,” the concept of morality as the essence of the world (—the two most vicious errors that ever existed!), were once more, thanks to a subtle and wily scepticism, if not actually demonstrable, then at least no longer refutable.... Reason, the prerogative of reason, does not go so far.... Out of reality there had been made “appearance”; an absolutely false world, that of being, had been turned into reality.... The success of Kant is merely a theological success; he was, like Luther and Leibnitz, but one more impediment to German integrity, already far from steady.—
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THE ANTICHRIST


1.

—Let us look each other in the face. We are Hyperboreans—we know well enough how remote our place is. “Neither by land nor by water will you find the road to the Hyperboreans”: even Pindar,[1] in his day, knew that much about us. Beyond the North, beyond the ice, beyond death—our life, our happiness.... We have discovered that happiness; we know the way; we got our knowledge of it from thousands of years in the labyrinth. Who else has found it?—The man of today?—“I don’t know either the way out or the way in; I am whatever doesn’t know either the way out or the way in”—so sighs the man of today.... This is the sort of modernity that made us ill,—we sickened on lazy peace, cowardly compro [Page 42] mise, the whole virtuous dirtiness of the modern Yea and Nay. This tolerance and largeur of the heart that “forgives” everything because it “understands” everything is a sirocco to us. Rather live amid the ice than among modern virtues and other such south-winds!... We were brave enough; we spared neither ourselves nor others; but we were a long time finding out where to direct our courage. We grew dismal; they called us fatalists. Our fate—it was the fulness, the tension, the storing up of powers. We thirsted for the lightnings and great deeds; we kept as far as possible from the happiness of the weakling, from “resignation”... There was thunder in our air; nature, as we embodied it, became overcast—for we had not yet found the way. The formula of our happiness: a Yea, a Nay, a straight line, a goal....[1] Cf. the tenth Pythian ode. See also the fourth book of Herodotus. The Hyperboreans were a mythical people beyond the Rhipaean mountains, in the far North. They enjoyed unbroken happiness and perpetual youth.

2.
What is good?—Whatever augments the feeling of power, the will to power, power itself, in man.

What is evil?—Whatever springs from weakness.

[Page 43] What is happiness?—The feeling that power increases—that resistance is overcome.

Not contentment, but more power; not peace at any price, but war; not virtue, but efficiency (virtue in the Renaissance sense, virtu, virtue free of moral acid).


The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity. And one should help them to it.

What is more harmful than any vice?—Practical sympathy for the botched and the weak

—Christianity....


3.
The problem that I set here is not what shall replace mankind in the order of living creatures (—man is an end—): but what type of man must be bred, must be willed, as being the most valuable, the most worthy of life, the most secure guarantee of the future.

This more valuable type has appeared often enough in the past: but always as a happy accident, as an exception, never as deliberately willed. Very often it has been precisely the most feared; hitherto it has been almost the terror of terrors;—and out of that terror the [Page 44] contrary type has been willed, cultivated and attained: the domestic animal, the herd animal, the sick brute-man—the Christian....

4.
Mankind surely does not represent an evolution toward a better or stronger or higher level, as progress is now understood. This “progress” is merely a modern idea, which is to say, a false idea. The European of today, in his essential worth, falls far below the European of the Renaissance; the process of evolution does not necessarily mean elevation, enhancement, strengthening.

True enough, it succeeds in isolated and individual cases in various parts of the earth and under the most widely different cultures, and in these cases a higher type certainly manifests itself; something which, compared to mankind in the mass, appears as a sort of superman. Such happy strokes of high success have always been possible, and will remain possible, perhaps, for all time to come. Even whole races, tribes and nations may occasionally represent such lucky accidents.

[Page 45] 5.
We should not deck out and embellish Christianity: it has waged a war to the death against this higher type of man, it has put all the deepest instincts of this type under its ban, it has developed its concept of evil, of the Evil One himself, out of these instincts—the strong man as the typical reprobate, the “outcast among men.” Christianity has taken the part of all the weak, the low, the botched; it has made an ideal out of antagonism to all the self-preservative instincts of sound life; it has corrupted even the faculties of those natures that are intellectually most vigorous, by representing the highest intellectual values as sinful, as misleading, as full of temptation. The most lamentable example: the corruption of Pascal, who believed that his intellect had been destroyed by original sin, whereas it was actually destroyed by Christianity!—6.
It is a painful and tragic spectacle that rises before me: I have drawn back the curtain from the rottenness of man. This word, in my mouth, [Page 46] is at least free from one suspicion: that it involves a moral accusation against humanity. It is used—and I wish to emphasize the fact again—without any moral significance: and this is so far true that the rottenness I speak of is most apparent to me precisely in those quarters where there has been most aspiration, hitherto, toward “virtue” and “godliness.” As you probably surmise, I understand rottenness in the sense of décadence: my argument is that all the values on which mankind now fixes its highest aspirations are décadence-values.


I call an animal, a species, an individual corrupt, when it loses its instincts, when it chooses, when it prefers, what is injurious to it. A history of the “higher feelings,” the “ideals of humanity”—and it is possible that I’ll have to write it—would almost explain why man is so degenerate. Life itself appears to me as an instinct for growth, for survival, for the accumulation of forces, for power: whenever the will to power fails there is disaster. My contention is that all the highest values of humanity have been emptied of this will—that the values of décadence, of nihilism, now prevail under the holiest names.

[Page 47] 7.
Christianity is called the religion of pity.—Pity stands in opposition to all the tonic passions that augment the energy of the feeling of aliveness: it is a depressant. A man loses power when he pities. Through pity that drain upon strength which suffering works is multiplied a thousandfold. Suffering is made contagious by pity; under certain circumstances it may lead to a total sacrifice of life and living energy—a loss out of all proportion to the magnitude of the cause (—the case of the death of the Nazarene). This is the first view of it; there is, however, a still more important one. If one measures the effects of pity by the gravity of the reactions it sets up, its character as a menace to life appears in a much clearer light. Pity thwarts the whole law of evolution, which is the law of natural selection. It preserves whatever is ripe for destruction; it fights on the side of those disinherited and condemned by life; by maintaining life in so many of the botched of all kinds, it gives life itself a gloomy and dubious aspect. Mankind has ventured to call pity a virtue (—in every superior moral [Page 48] system it appears as a weakness—); going still further, it has been called the virtue, the source and foundation of all other virtues—but let us always bear in mind that this was from the standpoint of a philosophy that was nihilistic, and upon whose shield the denial of life was inscribed. Schopenhauer was right in this: that by means of pity life is denied, and made worthy of denial—pity is the technic of nihilism. Let me repeat: this depressing and contagious instinct stands against all those instincts which work for the preservation and enhancement of life: in the rôle of protector of the miserable, it is a prime agent in the promotion of décadence—pity persuades to extinction.... Of course, one doesn’t say “extinction”: one says “the other world,” or “God,” or “the true life,” or Nirvana, salvation, blessedness.... This innocent rhetoric, from the realm of religious-ethical balderdash, appears a good deal less innocent when one reflects upon the tendency that it conceals beneath sublime words: the tendency to destroy life. Schopenhauer was hostile to life: that is why pity appeared to him as a virtue.... Aristotle, as every one knows, saw in pity a sickly and dangerous [Page 49] state of mind, the remedy for which was an occasional purgative: he regarded tragedy as that purgative. The instinct of life should prompt us to seek some means of puncturing any such pathological and dangerous accumulation of pity as that appearing in Schopenhauer’s case (and also, alack, in that of our whole literary décadence, from St. Petersburg to Paris, from Tolstoi to Wagner), that it may burst and be discharged.... Nothing is more unhealthy, amid all our unhealthy modernism, than Christian pity. To be the doctors here, to be unmerciful here, to wield the knife here—all this is our business, all this is our sort of humanity, by this sign we are philosophers, we Hyperboreans!—

8.
It is necessary to say just whom we regard as our antagonists: theologians and all who have any theological blood in their veins—this is our whole philosophy.... One must have faced that menace at close hand, better still, one must have had experience of it directly and almost succumbed to it, to realize that it is not to be taken lightly (—the alleged free-thinking of our [Page 50] naturalists and physiologists seems to me to be a
joke—they have no passion about such things; they have not
suffered—). This poisoning goes a great deal further than
most people think: I find the arrogant habit of the
theologian among all who regard themselves as “idealists”—among all who, by virtue of a higher point of departure, claim a right to rise above reality, and to look upon it with suspicion.... The idealist, like the ecclesiastic, carries all sorts of lofty concepts in his hand (—and not only in his hand!); he launches them with benevolent contempt against “understanding,” “the senses,” “honor,” “good living,” “science”; he sees such things as beneath him, as pernicious and seductive forces, on which “the soul” soars as a pure thing-in-itself—as if humility, chastity, poverty, in a word, holiness, had not already done much more damage to life than all imaginable horrors and vices.... The pure soul is a pure lie.... So long as the priest, that professional denier, calumniator and poisoner of life, is accepted as a higher variety of man, there can be no answer to the question, What is truth? Truth has already been stood on its head when the obvious attorney of [Page 51] mere emptiness is mistaken for its representative....

9.
Upon this theological instinct I make war: I find the tracks of it everywhere. Whoever has theological blood in his veins is shifty and dishonourable in all things. The pathetic thing that grows out of this condition is called faith: in other words, closing one’s eyes upon one’s self once for all, to avoid suffering the sight of incurable falsehood. People erect a concept of morality, of virtue, of holiness upon this false view of all things; they ground good conscience upon faulty vision; they argue that no other sort of vision has value any more, once they have made theirs sacrosanct with the names of “God,” “salvation” and “eternity.” I unearth this theological instinct in all directions: it is the most widespread and the most subterranean form of falsehood to be found on earth. Whatever a theologian regards as true must be false: there you have almost a criterion of truth. His profound instinct of self-preservation stands against truth ever coming into honour in any way, or even getting stated. Wherever the in [Page 52] fluence of theologians is felt there is a transvaluation of values, and the concepts “true” and “false” are forced to change places: whatever is most damaging to life is there called “true,” and whatever exalts it, intensifies it, approves it, justifies it and makes it triumphant is there called “false.”... When theologians, working through the “consciences” of princes (or of peoples—), stretch out their hands for power, there is never any doubt as to the fundamental issue: the will to make an end, the nihilistic will exerts that power....

10.
Among Germans I am immediately understood when I say that theological blood is the ruin of philosophy. The Protestant pastor is the grandfather of German philosophy; Protestantism itself is its peccatum originale. Definition of Protestantism: hemiplegic paralysis of Christianity—and of reason.... One need only utter the words “Tübingen School” to get an understanding of what German philosophy is at bottom—a very artful form of theology.... The Suabians are the best liars in Germany; they lie innocently.... Why all [Page 53] the rejoicing over the appearance of Kant that went through the learned world of Germany, three-fourths of which is made up of the sons of preachers and teachers—why the German conviction still echoing, that with Kant came a change for the better? The theological instinct of German scholars made them see clearly just what had become possible again.... A backstairs leading to the old ideal stood open; the concept of the “true world,” the concept of morality as the essence of the world (—the two most vicious errors that ever existed!), were once more, thanks to a subtle and wily scepticism, if not actually demonstrable, then at least no longer refutable.... Reason, the prerogative of reason, does not go so far.... Out of reality there had been made “appearance”; an absolutely false world, that of being, had been turned into reality.... The success of Kant is merely a theological success; he was, like Luther and Leibnitz, but one more impediment to German integrity, already far from steady.—
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Jesuit counter-reformation garbage.

NIETZSCHE was a Nazi.
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NIETZSCHE was a Nazi.
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NIETZSCHE was a Nazi.

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The only philospher I respect is Socrates, probably the only sincere one when he admitted that all he knew is that he knew nothing.
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at least you show clearly you know nothing
of the great minds in most cultures all thru
history.

what a sad life to have missed so much enlightnement

tho it is never too late

you CAN start reading the great philosophers
most are FREE online.


Socrates was a homosexual who held small classes
of sweet boys to adore him

his works are considered FASCIST by most
educated people.

but you wouldnt know that.





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you know, all this talk isn't real
when we reach a different plateau
we'll see each other and say: Hi
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The only philospher I respect is Socrates, probably the only sincere one when he admitted that all he knew is that he knew nothing.


at least you show clearly you know nothing
of the great minds in most cultures all thru
history.

what a sad life to have missed so much enlightnement

tho it is never too late

you CAN start reading the great philosophers
most are FREE online.


Socrates was a homosexual who held small classes
of sweet boys to adore him

his works are considered FASCIST by most
educated people.

but you wouldnt know that.





cool2
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You are quick to judge me and decide wether I have studied philosophy or not. Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

I admire Socrates for his humility and knowledge. Other philosphers I dont particularly like. I tend to consider that most just indulge in dialectic diatribe . But then what would I know? But surely I am allowed my own opinion.
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NIETZSCHE was a Nazi.

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your link is to a student paper written by a jewish student for a course set up for maexism honoring a jewish/marxiat writer of the last centruy

such would use any opportunity to perpetuate the
constant diatribe against NS in Germany
hardly an unbiased review of a globally respected philosopher

Try this :




The perceived link between Nietzsche and the Nazis has been strongly criticised and refuted, however. Nietzsche himself was a vehement critic of the Germans and despised the nationalism of Wilhelmine Germany. When Elisabeth Forster-Nietzsche published her edition of his works, with a very strong nationalist bias, he commented that he wrote his books ‘only for people who like to sit and think, no more’. He was not particularly anti-semitic, and while Thus Spake Zarathustra celebrated the warrior and was issued by the German government to soldiers in the trenches during the First World War along with the Bible as inspirational reading, Nietzsche’s own view of the warrior was that of the idealised heroic warrior of ancient Greece, rather than modern soldiers who massacre unarmed civilians. 19 Nietzsche hated mass politics, and his philosophy was too individualistic to support the totalitarian ideology of the Nazis. Historians such as Joachim C. Fest have noted that Hitler was far more influenced by Arthur Schopenhauer, and that only severely edited versions of Nietzsche’s works were published during the Third Reich.


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Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.
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Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


There you go!

Go and CURSE your enemies YA just like Jesus says to do!

You're such a fucking hypocrite!
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Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.


There you go!

Go and CURSE your enemies YA just like Jesus says to do!

You're such a fucking hypocrite!
 Quoting: Sir.Kalin





I didn't realize that I was going to get busted by the religio-police (pharisee). Still a generation of vipers I see.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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The only philospher I respect is Socrates, probably the only sincere one when he admitted that all he knew is that he knew nothing.


at least you show clearly you know nothing
of the great minds in most cultures all thru
history.

what a sad life to have missed so much enlightnement

tho it is never too late

you CAN start reading the great philosophers
most are FREE online.


Socrates was a homosexual who held small classes
of sweet boys to adore him

his works are considered FASCIST by most
educated people.

but you wouldnt know that.





cool2

You are quick to judge me and decide wether I have studied philosophy or not. Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

I admire Socrates for his humility and knowledge. Other philosphers I dont particularly like. I tend to consider that most just indulge in dialectic diatribe . But then what would I know? But surely I am allowed my own opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 700846



you have stated your opinion while disavowing other philosophers

It is your own words that make you seem willingly stifled.

No one has said you are not to state that opinion

at the same time it is my perogotive to state how
sad for you NOT to have enjoyed the great minds
of history

what else in the works of Socrates have you particularly admired?

humility was NOT one of his virtues by any imagination.

does my intellect show?
does that scare you?
how can you judge my intellect when you have not
seen any test results or diplomas?
what then, do you know of discernment
or prudence?
or is that statement one you read somewhere and copied in case you got a chance to use it?

have you read any of the hundreds of papers, books, tracts that show Socrates was a FACIST?

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Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.


There you go!

Go and CURSE your enemies YA just like Jesus says to do!

You're such a fucking hypocrite!





I didn't realize that I was going to get busted by the religio-police (pharisee). Still a generation of vipers I see.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


Hey Winged...why do you come out of your Christian sanctuary with such fury?
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I found the quote unreadable. Though I've looked at some Nee'cha recently and it was good.
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Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.
 Quoting: Wingedlion



First, AH did enjoy Nietzche
as he was an avid reader since childhood
and very intelligent

but he was not so much inspired by Nietzche
as other philosophers

He was more into Schopenhauer and kept
The Secret Doctrine by HPB on table near
his bed.

If you read the prev post MOST
of Nietzche's works were curtailed
by the NSDAP



Second,

May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.

I really appreciate this statement from you as it surely PROVES Nietzche's words re christians!


THANKS



`
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Re: Christianity is called the religion of pity.
The only philospher I respect is Socrates, probably the only sincere one when he admitted that all he knew is that he knew nothing.


at least you show clearly you know nothing
of the great minds in most cultures all thru
history.

what a sad life to have missed so much enlightnement

tho it is never too late

you CAN start reading the great philosophers
most are FREE online.


Socrates was a homosexual who held small classes
of sweet boys to adore him

his works are considered FASCIST by most
educated people.

but you wouldnt know that.





cool2

You are quick to judge me and decide wether I have studied philosophy or not. Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

I admire Socrates for his humility and knowledge. Other philosphers I dont particularly like. I tend to consider that most just indulge in dialectic diatribe . But then what would I know? But surely I am allowed my own opinion.



you have stated your opinion while disavowing other philosophers

It is your own words that make you seem willingly stifled.

No one has said you are not to state that opinion

at the same time it is my perogotive to state how
sad for you NOT to have enjoyed the great minds
of history

what else in the works of Socrates have you particularly admired?

humility was NOT one of his virtues by any imagination.

does my intellect show?
does that scare you?
how can you judge my intellect when you have not
seen any test results or diplomas?
what then, do you know of discernment
or prudence?
or is that statement one you read somewhere and copied in case you got a chance to use it?

have you read any of the hundreds of papers, books, tracts that show Socrates was a FACIST?

`
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771218
I admire intellect, real intellect. I have noticed that true intellect usually is accompanied by great humility.

And another thing I have learned that tends intellect not to be measured by diplomas and tests.
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The only philospher I respect is Socrates, probably the only sincere one when he admitted that all he knew is that he knew nothing.


at least you show clearly you know nothing
of the great minds in most cultures all thru
history.

what a sad life to have missed so much enlightnement

tho it is never too late

you CAN start reading the great philosophers
most are FREE online.


Socrates was a homosexual who held small classes
of sweet boys to adore him

his works are considered FASCIST by most
educated people.

but you wouldnt know that.





cool2

You are quick to judge me and decide wether I have studied philosophy or not. Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

I admire Socrates for his humility and knowledge. Other philosphers I dont particularly like. I tend to consider that most just indulge in dialectic diatribe . But then what would I know? But surely I am allowed my own opinion.



you have stated your opinion while disavowing other philosophers

It is your own words that make you seem willingly stifled.

No one has said you are not to state that opinion

at the same time it is my perogotive to state how
sad for you NOT to have enjoyed the great minds
of history

what else in the works of Socrates have you particularly admired?

humility was NOT one of his virtues by any imagination.

does my intellect show?
does that scare you?
how can you judge my intellect when you have not
seen any test results or diplomas?
what then, do you know of discernment
or prudence?
or is that statement one you read somewhere and copied in case you got a chance to use it?

have you read any of the hundreds of papers, books, tracts that show Socrates was a FACIST?

`
I admire intellect, real intellect. I have noticed that true intellect usually is accompanied by great humility.

And another thing I have learned that intellect tends not to be measured by diplomas and tests.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 700846
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Re: Christianity is called the religion of pity.
Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.


There you go!

Go and CURSE your enemies YA just like Jesus says to do!

You're such a fucking hypocrite!





I didn't realize that I was going to get busted by the religio-police (pharisee). Still a generation of vipers I see.


..........


Hey Winged...why do you come out of your Christian sanctuary with such fury?

 Quoting: GDW 772231








Hey Winged...why do you come out of your Christian sanctuary with such fury?


because it sits and waits for opportunity to rush out in raging indignation and when there isnt an opportunity for awhile its HATE starts eating it up so it has to storm out and do its hissy fit !

hard to sit in its cage with those wings stuffed in behind it...

must get real sore.......
its master wont give it a bigger cage.




devil6




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Intelligence starts when you start to offer your own opinion...not from a book, or a teacher but from you. It might not be much...but at least it's yours.
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Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.


There you go!

Go and CURSE your enemies YA just like Jesus says to do!

You're such a fucking hypocrite!





I didn't realize that I was going to get busted by the religio-police (pharisee). Still a generation of vipers I see.


..........


Hey Winged...why do you come out of your Christian sanctuary with such fury?









Hey Winged...why do you come out of your Christian sanctuary with such fury?


because it sits and waits for opportunity to rush out in raging indignation and when there isnt an opportunity for awhile its HATE starts eating it up so it has to storm out and do its hissy fit !

hard to sit in its cage with those wings stuffed in behind it...

must get real sore.......
its master wont give it a bigger cage.




devil6




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You could be right.
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Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.



First, AH did enjoy Nietzche
as he was an avid reader since childhood
and very intelligent

but he was not so much inspired by Nietzche
as other philosophers

He was more into Schopenhauer and kept
The Secret Doctrine by HPB on table near
his bed.

If you read the prev post MOST
of Nietzche's works were curtailed
by the NSDAP



Second,

May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.

I really appreciate this statement from you as it surely PROVES Nietzche's words re christians!


THANKS



`
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771218





Your speaking of Madame Blatavsky's "Secret Doctrine" which idenitifies the Nephilim/ Generational Satanist, as the spawn of the fallen Angels. And the secret doctrine is basically that the Aryian race is basically a Nephilim race of superbeings. Of course, the only thing getting in the way of total world domination was that promise in Genesis that the God's chosen people would rule over the Nephilim as slaves; thus they had to demonize Jews, for at the time, they were the ones identified as "God's people".

I think my words were well chosen and well justified, regardless of what any follower of the philosophies of the Nephilim thinks or believes. The conflict between these two races of humanity, (pure human, and part human Nephilim) is at the heart of what is known in Theology as the "Kingdom of God". But many theologians do not know it as such.
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Real intelligence has to be accompanied invariably by humility imo because only a great mind can understand , like Socrates, that we know nothing even though our ego wants us to believe otherwise.
We dont know the basics of where we came from, why we are here or where we are going, who we are, we are just guessing. And to guess in the most convincing way is what IMO most philosophers indulged in. And no matter how well put ..a guess is always just a guess.
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The only philospher I respect is Socrates, probably the only sincere one when he admitted that all he knew is that he knew nothing.


at least you show clearly you know nothing
of the great minds in most cultures all thru
history.

what a sad life to have missed so much enlightnement

tho it is never too late

you CAN start reading the great philosophers
most are FREE online.


Socrates was a homosexual who held small classes
of sweet boys to adore him

his works are considered FASCIST by most
educated people.

but you wouldnt know that.





cool2

You are quick to judge me and decide wether I have studied philosophy or not. Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

I admire Socrates for his humility and knowledge. Other philosphers I dont particularly like. I tend to consider that most just indulge in dialectic diatribe . But then what would I know? But surely I am allowed my own opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 700846









You are quick to judge me and decide wether I have studied philosophy or not. Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

I admire Socrates for his humility and knowledge. Other philosphers I dont particularly like. I tend to consider that most just indulge in dialectic diatribe . But then what would I know? But surely I am allowed my own opinion.


........................................





Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

you try to have it both ways
measure MY intellect then deny you use intellect
as a measure

typical circular thinking.


IF

you had read philosophy you would be able
to do better than that.

but you keep avoiding what I said

Most thinkers consider Socrates a FASCIST
just what of his works do you particularly
appreciate?



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NIETZSCHE was a Nazi.
___

SOURCE ?
___

[link to www.history.ucsb.edu]
___

your link is to a student paper written by a jewish student for a course set up for maexism honoring a jewish/marxiat writer of the last centruy

such would use any opportunity to perpetuate the
constant diatribe against NS in Germany
hardly an unbiased review of a globally respected philosopher

Try this :

The perceived link between Nietzsche and the Nazis has been strongly criticised and refuted, however. Nietzsche himself was a vehement critic of the Germans and despised the nationalism of Wilhelmine Germany. When Elisabeth Forster-Nietzsche published her edition of his works, with a very strong nationalist bias, he commented that he wrote his books ‘only for people who like to sit and think, no more’. He was not particularly anti-semitic, and while Thus Spake Zarathustra celebrated the warrior and was issued by the German government to soldiers in the trenches during the First World War along with the Bible as inspirational reading, Nietzsche’s own view of the warrior was that of the idealised heroic warrior of ancient Greece, rather than modern soldiers who massacre unarmed civilians. 19 Nietzsche hated mass politics, and his philosophy was too individualistic to support the totalitarian ideology of the Nazis. Historians such as Joachim C. Fest have noted that Hitler was far more influenced by Arthur Schopenhauer, and that only severely edited versions of Nietzsche’s works were published during the Third Reich.


[link to beastrabban.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771218


They school felt the thesis good enough to place on their website.

You mean Marxism? It is Masonic Templar and Jesuit, not Jewish. The Freemasonic Jacobins developed into what became Marxism.
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Real intelligence has to be accompanied invariably by humility imo because only a great mind can understand , like Socrates, that we know nothing even though our ego wants us to believe otherwise.
We dont know the basics of where we came from, why we are here or where we are going, who we are, we are just guessing. And to guess in the most convincing way is what IMO most philosophers indulged in. And no matter how well put ..a guess is always just a guess.
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I don't think so...humility may be good for you and I...but I would never assume that it's good for anyone else. Some of our greatest achievers in this world, have been arrogant, i'm thinking artists...creators...have you ever tried to have a conversation with an artist...they're in their own world (their art is usually a glimpse into it).

I agree with your second paragraph...and it reminds me of Lao Tzu' words. Lao was only concerned with what was in front of him...he didn't delve any further than to state that the earth must be an extension of the greater universe, the connection was Tao.
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Karl Marx

When he was six, his family converted to Christianity, and although he was once a believer in God, after attending the Universities of Bonn and Berlin, Marx wrote that he wanted to avenge himself "against the One who rules above." He joined the Satanist Church run by Joana Southcott, who was said to be in contact with the demon Shiloh. His early writings mentioned the name "Oulanem," which was a ritualistic name for Satan. A friend of Marx wrote in 1841, that "Marx calls the Christian religion one of the most immoral of religions." His published attacks against the German government caused him to be ejected from the country.

He received a Doctorate in Philosophy in 1841, but was turned down for a teaching position, because of his revolutionary activities. In 1843, he studied Economics in Paris, where he learned about French communism. Again he was expelled for revolutionary activities. In 1844, he wrote the book A World Without Jews even though he was Jewish. In 1845, he moved to Brussels, where, with German philosopher, Friedrich Engels, who he met in Paris in 1844, they reorganized the Communist League.

Engels had joined the "Young Germany" group (which had been established by Giuseppe Mazzini) in Switzerland in 1835. He later became a 32nd degree Mason (as did Marx).

In 1848, Marx published his Communist Manifesto (which he was working on from 1830-47), from an Engel's draft (which was an extension of Engel's Confessions of a Communist), which also borrowed heavily from Clinton Roosevelt's book, The Science of Government Founded on Natural Law which echoed the philosophies of Weishaupt. It had been commissioned by the Communist League in London. The League, formerly known as the League of the Just (or the League of Just Men), which was an off-shoot of the Parisian Outlaws League (which evolved from the Jacobin movement), was founded by Illuminati members who fled from Germany. The League was made up of rich and powerful men from different countries that were behind much of the turmoil that engulfed Europe in 1848.

Karl Marx, the “Father of Modern Communism” was himself an occultist and high-level Jewish Freemason, intimately associated with Rome's Giuseppe Mazzini (1805-1872), the most powerful Shriner on the Continent and founder of the Mafia, and Albert Pike (1809-1891), the most powerful Shriner in Fourteenth Amendment America and creator of the first Klu Klux Klan. He was privately tutored by Jesuits in the huge Reading Room of the British Museum while writing The Communist Manifesto based upon the ten maxims or “planks” the Order had perfected during the French revolution (1789-1798). His writings were financed by the Society's wealthy, White Gentile cartel capitalists, such as John D. Rockefeller, Jr., and J. P. Morgan, also Shriner Freemasons who, being in their doctrines and deeds, were in fact the revived old Order of the crusading Papal Knights Templars. Marx, a racial Jew, was chosen for the task, for the Order intended to blame all the brutal and savage evils of their absolutist, Communist Inquisition on the Semitic Hebrew/Jewish Race. This masterstroke of Jesuit genius was fulfilled by the Black Pope's Third Reich with its invasion of Russia during "Operation Barbarossa" and the mass-murder of Europeans and Russians, pursuant to the wicked and evil Council of Trent. (Karl Marx: A life, Francis Wheen, New York: W. W. Norton & Co., 1999).

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Ah Nietzche, the guy that inspired
Adolf Hitler to be such a wonderful person. You could not have a more demonic, Nephilim to hold as your idol. May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.



First, AH did enjoy Nietzche
as he was an avid reader since childhood
and very intelligent

but he was not so much inspired by Nietzche
as other philosophers

He was more into Schopenhauer and kept
The Secret Doctrine by HPB on table near
his bed.

If you read the prev post MOST
of Nietzche's works were curtailed
by the NSDAP



Second,

May you both burn in the eternal fires of Hell, along with Hitler.


I really appreciate this statement from you as it surely PROVES Nietzche's words re christians!


THANKS



`


Your speaking of Madame Blatavsky's "Secret Doctrine" which idenitifies the Nephilim/ Generational Satanist, as the spawn of the fallen Angels. And the secret doctrine is basically that the Aryian race is basically a Nephilim race of superbeings. Of course, the only thing getting in the way of total world domination was that promise in Genesis that the God's chosen people would rule over the Nephilim as slaves; thus they had to demonize Jews, for at the time, they were the ones identified as "God's people".

I think my words were well chosen and well justified, regardless of what any follower of the philosophies of the Nephilim thinks or believes. The conflict between these two races of humanity, (pure human, and part human Nephilim) is at the heart of what is known in Theology as the "Kingdom of God". But many theologians do not know it as such.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


..........................



one with the feathered hinderances

you write from a christian delusion
you use satanist and such words
which have NO RELATION to the
works of HPB


AND

you curse people when you dont like their words

sucha xian!

no cred, bud.



tomato


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NIETZSCHE was a Nazi.
___

SOURCE ?
___

[link to www.history.ucsb.edu]
___

your link is to a student paper written by a jewish student for a course set up for maexism honoring a jewish/marxiat writer of the last centruy

such would use any opportunity to perpetuate the
constant diatribe against NS in Germany
hardly an unbiased review of a globally respected philosopher

Try this :

The perceived link between Nietzsche and the Nazis has been strongly criticised and refuted, however. Nietzsche himself was a vehement critic of the Germans and despised the nationalism of Wilhelmine Germany. When Elisabeth Forster-Nietzsche published her edition of his works, with a very strong nationalist bias, he commented that he wrote his books ‘only for people who like to sit and think, no more’. He was not particularly anti-semitic, and while Thus Spake Zarathustra celebrated the warrior and was issued by the German government to soldiers in the trenches during the First World War along with the Bible as inspirational reading, Nietzsche’s own view of the warrior was that of the idealised heroic warrior of ancient Greece, rather than modern soldiers who massacre unarmed civilians. 19 Nietzsche hated mass politics, and his philosophy was too individualistic to support the totalitarian ideology of the Nazis. Historians such as Joachim C. Fest have noted that Hitler was far more influenced by Arthur Schopenhauer, and that only severely edited versions of Nietzsche’s works were published during the Third Reich.


[link to beastrabban.wordpress.com]

They school felt the thesis good enough to place on their website.

You mean Marxism? It is Masonic Templar and Jesuit, not Jewish. The Freemasonic Jacobins developed into what became Marxism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 773465


the Marcuse Seat is a communist seat teaching and promoting marxism

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The only philospher I respect is Socrates, probably the only sincere one when he admitted that all he knew is that he knew nothing.


at least you show clearly you know nothing
of the great minds in most cultures all thru
history.

what a sad life to have missed so much enlightnement

tho it is never too late

you CAN start reading the great philosophers
most are FREE online.


Socrates was a homosexual who held small classes
of sweet boys to adore him

his works are considered FASCIST by most
educated people.

but you wouldnt know that.





cool2

You are quick to judge me and decide wether I have studied philosophy or not. Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

I admire Socrates for his humility and knowledge. Other philosphers I dont particularly like. I tend to consider that most just indulge in dialectic diatribe . But then what would I know? But surely I am allowed my own opinion.









You are quick to judge me and decide wether I have studied philosophy or not. Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

I admire Socrates for his humility and knowledge. Other philosphers I dont particularly like. I tend to consider that most just indulge in dialectic diatribe . But then what would I know? But surely I am allowed my own opinion.


........................................





Obviously your intellect has not taught you prudence and discernment.

you try to have it both ways
measure MY intellect then deny you use intellect
as a measure

typical circular thinking.


IF

you had read philosophy you would be able
to do better than that.

but you keep avoiding what I said

Most thinkers consider Socrates a FASCIST
just what of his works do you particularly
appreciate?



`
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771218

I am not measuring your intellect. Its ridiculous to assume that from a couple of posts on a forum one can tell if a person is intelligent or not, and judgeing anothers intelligence is a presumption I prefer to avoid.

However I do not think it is ever accurately measured by tests and diplomas.





GLP