Debunking the lies of the bible???

What do you think 'the lizards' do with the gold?

Can they like buy stuff with it?

Probabaly because they never truly believed in god like people do today. Look in the sky, that big fiery ball. Was usually called god.



What?!?! And you talk about researching?
Paganism goes further back before any of the above mentioned were created. Thats if you are saying they created the whole thing. Try looking at the Celtics. But will agree with the Vatican and Satan comment. Even though Satan does not exist. Similar representation of the lesser evils.

And yes... most of the holidays originally game from the pagans. But altered the dates.

Well it's a multi purpose substance for the lizards, one of which is to convert it to white powder (mono-atomic) to be consumed!!

This gives them godlike powers....hint, hint!!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

With out the Holy Spirit you will not understand anything, You only receive the Holy Spirit when you Accept Christ.

This is the beginning of understanding, not studying, or meditating,

We all have that divine spark/soul/spirit that is holy!!

Geeeesh!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

A 'white powder' that gives them godlike power?

Is this 'white powder' by any chance snorted?

I think I get it with the reference to the white powder and then the hint and all.

They are drug addicts?

We are spiritually dead with out salvation.

The third member of the Godhead is a personage of spirit.



The third member of the Godhead (1 Jn. 5: 7; D&C 20: 28). He is a personage of Spirit, not having a body of flesh and bones (D&C 130: 22). The Holy Ghost is often referred to as the Spirit, or the Spirit of God.

The Holy Ghost performs several vital roles in the plan of salvation.1 He bears witness of the Father and the Son (1 Cor. 12: 3; 3 Ne. 28: 11; Ether 12: 41).2 He reveals the truth of all things (John 14: 26; 16: 13; Moro. 10: 5; D&C 39: 6).3 He sanctifies those who have repented and become baptized (John 3: 5; 3 Ne. 27: 20; Moses 6: 64-68).4 He is the Holy Spirit of Promise (D&C 76: 50-53; 132: 7, 18-19, 26).

The power of the Holy Ghost can come upon a person before baptism and witness that the gospel is true. But the right to have the constant companionship of the Holy Ghost, whenever one is worthy, is a gift that can be received only by the laying on of hands by a Melchizedek Priesthood holder after authorized baptism into the true Church of Jesus Christ.

Jesus taught that all sins could be forgiven except blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (Matt. 12: 31-32; Mark 3: 28-29; Luke 12: 10; Heb. 6: 4-8; D&C 76: 34-35).

The Spirit causes men to walk in God’s statutes, Ezek. 36: 27. The Apostles were commissioned to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost, Matt. 28: 19. The Holy Ghost shall teach you all things, John 14: 26. Holy men spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost, 2 Pet. 1: 21. Nephi was led by the Spirit, 1 Ne. 4: 6. The mysteries of God shall be unfolded unto them by the power of the Holy Ghost, 1 Ne. 10: 17-19. The Holy Ghost shows all things that you should do, 2 Ne. 32: 5. By the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things, Moro. 10: 5. The Holy Ghost will tell you in your mind and in your heart, D&C 8: 2. The Spirit leadeth to do good, D&C 11: 12. The Holy Ghost knoweth all things, D&C 35: 19. The Holy Ghost teaches the peaceable things of the kingdom, D&C 36: 2 (D&C 39: 6). If ye receive not the Spirit, ye shall not teach, D&C 42: 14. The Holy Ghost beareth record of the Father and the Son, D&C 42: 17 (1 Cor. 12: 3; 3 Ne. 11: 32, 35-36). To some it is given by the Holy Ghost to know that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, D&C 46: 13. Whatsoever they shall speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost shall be scripture, D&C 68: 4. The Holy Ghost shall be shed forth in bearing record unto all things ye shall say, D&C 100: 8. The Holy Ghost shall be thy constant companion, D&C 121: 45-46. - [link to scriptures.lds.org]

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MC

Dude, you can't be serious. I would agree if you said "that 'can be' holy." But surely you don't believe what you said...

1 Cor. 2:12
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13- Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14- But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Before accepting Christ and for years after this bugged me too.

1- Was Cain's offering not acceptable because it was a grain offering and not a blood offering. False-1 "Anyone who wishes to sacrifice a grain offering to the Lord is to bring fine flour and is to pour olive oil and incense upon it.
Lev 2:1 (Living)"
2-Since a Blood offering is not demanded then you can see that the reason that it was not accepted is because it was not done the way God wanted. If you want something, food, a gift, someone to mow your lawn, and YOU LET them know how you want it done and they don't listen to you. YOUR food is burned, the gift was something that the person got and didn't want the previous year and re-wraped it, They mow your lawn too low and it kills all your grass, And then you praise the person who did what you want and tell the person that did wrong that they didn't do it right?

The one who did wrong then kills the one who did right, and NOW YOU FEEL SORRY FOR THE ONE WHO killed? What of the person who died?


But God did say bring no harm to Cain, he was given time to think about what he did wrong, but in the end he either figured out why his offering was not acceptable, or he did not.

The same thing you must understand, ONE way to God, you either figure that out, or JUSTIFY why YOUR way is BETTER than GODS way. I do not judge, I do not Condemn, I only do not want to tell you to enjoy your ride as you drive off a cliff. Sure you will have fun, that is till you hit the bottom. That will not bother me either, I am not in your bus. But it does sadden me that you do and do not understand. Yet you truly seek. Don't stop looking.

The Light of Christ is the divine energy, power, or influence that proceeds from God through Christ and gives life and light to all things. The Light of Christ influences people for good and prepares them to receive the Holy Ghost. One manifestation of the Light of Christ is what we call a conscience. - [link to www.lds.org]

MC

With all due respect.....bullshit!!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

With out the Holy Spirit you will not understand anything, You only receive the Holy Spirit when you Accept Christ.

We all have that divine spark/soul/spirit that is holy!!

Geeeesh!!
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We are spiritually dead with out salvation.



With all due respect.....bullshit!!

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The phrase “light of Christ” does not appear in the Bible, although the principles that apply to it are frequently mentioned therein. The precise phrase is found in Alma 28: 14, Moro. 7: 18, and D&C 88: 7. Biblical phrases that are sometimes synonymous to the term “light of Christ” are “spirit of the Lord” and “light of life” (see, for example, John 1: 4; John 8: 12). The “spirit of the Lord,” however, sometimes is used with reference to the Holy Ghost, and so must not be taken in every case as having reference to the light of Christ.

The light of Christ is just what the words imply: enlightenment, knowledge, and an uplifting, ennobling, persevering influence that comes upon mankind because of Jesus Christ. For instance, Christ is “the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world” (D&C 93: 2; John 1: 9). The light of Christ fills the “immensity of space” and is the means by which Christ is able to be “in all things, and is through all things, and is round about all things.” It “giveth life to all things” and is “the law by which all things are governed.” It is also “the light that quickeneth” man’s understanding (see D&C 88: 6-13, 41). In this manner, the light of Christ is related to man’s conscience and tells him right from wrong (cf. Moro. 7: 12-19).

The light of Christ should not be confused with the personage of the Holy Ghost, for the light of Christ is not a personage at all. Its influence is preliminary to and preparatory to one’s receiving the Holy Ghost. The light of Christ will lead the honest soul who “hearkeneth to the voice” to find the true gospel and the true Church and thereby receive the Holy Ghost (see D&C 84: 46-48). Additional references are Alma 19: 6; Alma 26: 3; D&C 20: 27. - [link to scriptures.lds.org]

Abel gave of his firstfruits, just as we are told to give the firstfruits of our tithes.

Cain did not.

HardTruth I want to say thank you. You have let me know with this one statement that you are not a troll, YOU are seeking the truth, Your opinion while we may not agree, does not mean that we can not be friends.

While your hostility toward my message, you have restrained from showing it toward me.

I will try to come to YOU, and not Demand you come to me. I am new hear and I am not familiar with some of your previous posts, and I am sure they have changed over time everyone does this, it is growth.

I am interested in where you are NOW, If Christ is Not real, then making a quick prayer to a non-entity hurts no one right. Since you have never done this, but you have entertained plenty of other ideas, I am curious why the fear, or hate, or hesitation to take a chance.

Are you afraid that it is a one way trip, it is not, we were allowed to leave the garden of Eden, why would he hold us against our will now? Are you afraid that you will loose something now? He only wants the best for us, children don't want to give up the bottle, but do you not now like solid food?

Yes but the understanding of first fruit, is a harder concept to understand.

With all due respect, I have been in your shoes, and I do seek truths, and I have even experienced your filling of the holy spirit!!

We all have that spirit that was given by the creator of all, so the term being filled with the holy spirit is erroneous, as it was more of an awakening, and this isn't conditional only to christians being my point!!

It is available to all who truly seek it, ask and it will be given, it is doctrines that divide, and the belief in a christ or not shall not sway the awakening one iota if one truly seeks it!!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

God created us with a desire to have fellowship with him, Satan is more powerful than us and Can appear as a God-like being, All that I ask of you is to check your cup before you drink. Would you not want to know if you were about to drink poison? It is still your choice to do so.

After having spent over twenty years of diligent research, I have come to the conclusion that the poison you speak of, is none other than religion itself!!

I very well know what's in the cup I drink from!!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

What I speak of is not Religion, that is spouted by people who have something to gain. I Like some of the points of Ayn Rand even if she is an Atheist. Yet in the end she became the very thing she hated, because without God we do not have the power to over come our sinful nature.

If a group of kids are walking down the street, and on the right side of the street is a green house, and on the left side of the street is a green house but a sign in the yard that says "don't throw rocks at the glass" What do you think will happen.?

And what exactly makes you think I don't already have a relationship with the true creator of all?

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

A person is known by their fruit, What makes you think that the relationship you have is with the true creator?

What fruit do you claim to have?

Almost every sentence you type leads me to believe that brother...I may be wrong, but abidance in the Holy Spirit does not lead one to be as mean spirited as you most often are towards just about everyone who proclaims The Messiah.

This is the sinful nature coming out. Alone no one can fight it. But give time everyone can see what fruit someone bears.

"For you were sometimes darkness, but now are you light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9- For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;

10- Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord."
Eph. 4

Gal. 5
22- But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23- Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24- And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

We are to Worship Him.

Here's Why: - [link to www.14lds.com]

There seem to be quite a few people on this thread who are also on the Mock Now - Pay Later Plan. I don't recommend it, the paybacks a real bitch. This Was Your Life!...

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*hijacked* is more the expression

as one that can see , Hardtruth is not trying to slander anyone, he just knows things that you have blockage to!