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I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity

 
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Why would a Just loving God offer the 10 commandments, only to reverse its logic and initiate Joshua to exterminate every Man, Woman, Child and animal in Cannan and (of course) "acquire" all gold in the Canaanite exploits to fashion the temple implements?

Id really like to get my heart around this, but simply cannot...


Some societies are so evil that god destroys the whole civilization. Some people cannot accept that, but god does not think like us exactly and is to be feared.

And to add to the OP's response, God considers sin and infection. At certain points in the history of mankind God chose to totally clear out certain pockets of this infection to better protect the survival of mankind and espcially His chosen plan of salvation.
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you would have god's creation is flawless....
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Why would a Just loving God offer the 10 commandments, only to reverse its logic and initiate Joshua to exterminate every Man, Woman, Child and animal in Cannan and (of course) "acquire" all gold in the Canaanite exploits to fashion the temple implements?

Id really like to get my heart around this, but simply cannot...


Some societies are so evil that god destroys the whole civilization. Some people cannot accept that, but god does not think like us exactly and is to be feared.

And to add to the OP's response, God considers sin an infection. At certain points in the history of mankind God chose to totally clear out certain pockets of this infection to better protect the survival of mankind and espcially His chosen plan of salvation.
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Somebody here knows the truth. Amen.
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God told me in my dream:

"I need you to tell the people the truth about me for they have forgotten about me"







All I can said this, we only lived 100 or less years, our actions will be based on book life, not by faith

good works have nothing to with faith, it's how you do with people in differant sitution..
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Yet another Twisting.....

11 Some people even say that I myself am preaching that circumcision and Jewish laws are necessary to the plan of salvation. Well, if I preached that, I would be persecuted no more--for that message doesn't offend anyone. The fact that I am still being persecuted proves that I am still preaching salvation through faith in the cross of Christ alone.
Gal 5:11 (Living)
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YOU WILL HAVE SALVATION THROUGH FAITH


AND JUDGED ACCORDING TO YOUR WORKS


12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:12 (KJV)
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John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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God told me in my dream:

"I need you to tell the people the truth about me for they have forgotten about me"







All I can said this, we only lived 100 or less years, our actions will be based on book life, not by faith

good works have nothing to with faith, it's how you do with people in differant sitution..



Yet another Twisting.....

11 Some people even say that I myself am preaching that circumcision and Jewish laws are necessary to the plan of salvation. Well, if I preached that, I would be persecuted no more--for that message doesn't offend anyone. The fact that I am still being persecuted proves that I am still preaching salvation through faith in the cross of Christ alone.
Gal 5:11 (Living)


YOU WILL HAVE SALVATION THROUGH FAITH


AND JUDGED ACCORDING TO YOUR WORKS


12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:12 (KJV)
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I gave up, God will find a way for you, maybe send a homeless man walking toward you with a broken ankles......


truth is, I gave up, I gave love and you just doing what primitive human would do, smach it with a hammer of justice.....

I really hope God send you love and understanding, that's all I can said.

my last post.
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there's a thought in there some where...
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God told me in my dream:

"I need you to tell the people the truth about me for they have forgotten about me"




Sounds like you want to start a CULT, ONLY YOU have the power to talk to GOD......



YOU ARE HIS CHOOSEN ONE.......



And I .... I AM THE BAD GUY FOR POINT OUT THE BIBLE??????



28 So it was that when they gave God up and would not even acknowledge him, God gave them up to doing everything their evil minds could think of.
29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness and sin, of greed and hate, envy, murder, fighting, lying, bitterness, and gossip.
30 They were backbiters, haters of God, insolent, proud, braggarts, always thinking of new ways of sinning and continually being disobedient to their parents.
31 They tried to misunderstand, broke their promises, and were heartless--without pity.
32 They were fully aware of God's death penalty for these crimes, yet they went right ahead and did them anyway and encouraged others to do them, too.
Romans 1:28-32 (Living)

lol, you put word in my mouth and you speak just like the pharasee would have said


and no I don't start a cult lol, this so funny

I never said I am the choosen one, again, you put word in my word, not me

I never siad you a bad guy, what you lack is love, you don't want that because it doesn't sound reality, just and anger is more real to you. Same as those pharadees, they just follow the laws exactly what God told them but Jesus was angry with them because God's doesn't care if you follow or not, it's about helping people to get to know God and love, but you was preaching exactly what the bible preach you but remember this: bible cannot give you love.


This is my final words for you: It is true you are trying convince people that that the only way to eternal life is Jesus, but do you really love him? Did you love people without any reward or any pride reside within you? Did you go out to homeless shelter and help them? Did you go out and help the sinners, you don't preach them about God, it's won't work, but if you show them love, all they see you is God himself, he sending you with his heart, not laws or faith

people don't need to be push with fiath or fear, that's not what Jesus does, he walk everywhere by helping people with love, sure he teach about God, that's because he is God himself


All I can said this, we only lived 100 or less years, our actions will be based on book life, not by faith

good works have nothing to with faith, it's how you do with people in differant sitution..
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21- Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

22- And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23- And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Jude

Blessings my friends! hf

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"In thy presence is fulness of joy."
Psa. 16:11
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OP

Here is a question for you.

God gave Moses the ten commandments right. God never changes and is always the same.

One of the ten commandments says clearly, thou shall not kill.

Yet why later in the bible we hear the Jews receive a word from God where God tells them to go into a village and kill everything, man, woman, children and even beast.

Now if God is love and never changes how can this be....
what about religious wars?


The bible says thou shall not murder

its not merely kill, otherwise every soldier is guilty - its murder that is not allowed - yes some bibles use kill and that is not what was said, anyway the KJV (king james bible says this)
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Jesus came to save the house of Israel . When the prophecies are fullfilled,what happens to the Christian Gentiles. Jesus called the canaan woman a dog and told her he is here for Israel.

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Can you answer through the spirit threshing sword?. It was a genuine question I asked.Thankyou .


I will in part because, like a great man of God once told me, I don't want to rob you of the Holy Spirit revealing this to you. It is so exciting when the Lord gives you that "aha!" moment of illumination and you understand something you didn't understand previously.

The woman in the story you're talking about was, as Matthew 15:22 tells us, a "woman of Canaan." Jesus called her a "dog." Where else in the Bible does it talk about the Canaanites? For one, the whole story of Joshua and the Israelites and their so-called "merciless killing campaign" that a lot of people have been using as an example on this thread of committing murder and God not showing love because he commanded every man, woman, and child to be killed. If you read that whole story thoroughly, you'll see that the Israelites didn't obey God's word to kill them all.

Ask the Lord to show you the answer to these questions: Who really were the people of the land of Canaan? Why did Jesus call them dogs? Are dogs the same thing as Gentiles? Is there such a thing as a Christian Gentile? Who makes up the house of Israel?

May the Holy Spirit guide you into all truth.
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I popped back to Thank you for only answering in part and you was right. hf
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21- Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

22- And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23- And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Jude

Blessings my friends! hf
 Quoting: Wondering



Thanks Wondering.. But we should not forget that you cannot have one with out the other. LOVE, mercy, and JUSTICE.



18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:18-25 (KJV)
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John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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21- Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

22- And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23- And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Jude

Blessings my friends! hf



Thanks Wondering.. But we should not forget that you cannot have one with out the other. LOVE, mercy, and JUSTICE.



18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:18-25 (KJV)
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As I was reading through the thread and took note of the back and forth between you and the other poster, those particular verses came to mind.

We are all in different stages of spiritual growth, which sometimes I think we forget; but I saw that the both of you were actually "right."

Blessings again my friends!
"In thy presence is fulness of joy."
Psa. 16:11
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Who was Jesus talking too???


"And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power." [MARK 9.1]


The scriptures say they don't die. <<-- meaning, they live and breath until the KINGDOM of God comes with power. The kingdom of GOD is ushered in by the Son of Man, therewith, when Jesus said; "there are some who will not taste death before they see the kingdom of GOD come with Power" is that some would witness the Son of Man.


-- How will we know when the Son of Man arrives?


Matthew.25:[31]"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, [32] and all the nations will be assembled before him.


Obviously this hasn't occurred, yet!


-- So who was Jesus talking too?

Who are those who will not taste of death before they see the kingdom of GOD (son of man) come with Power?

Who did Jesus say this too that they were going to see the Son of Man before they finished running out of time (life)?

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UNTIL THERE IS ONE WHO CAN ANSWER THE ABOVE -- YOU'RE ALL LAMB CHOPS!!!

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Since the OP has not responded yet I will go ahead and give the correct answer. This scripture is only hard for those who doubt the awesome power of the Almighty God. It means EXACTLY what it says. There are some yet alive on earth today who were there with Jesus that day who have NEVER died and will be here when He arrives in all His glory. This is a small thing for God to do especially when you consider that even in the old testament times many lived to very old ages and remember -----ELIJAH ---- NEVER DIED and is yet alive today. I hinted at this earlier when I commented on wittnesses of the resurrection being alive today and those who have ancestors who actually witnessed the resurrection. Those who are yet alive do not make waves about their existence and are actually TOTALLY unrecognizable by the public. If you know one of them you are truly blessed and should give praises to God for your choice by Him (God). By the way, those who are yet alive today are called WATCHERS! I like to view it as God's CIA. LOL
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As I was reading through the thread and took note of the back and forth between you and the other poster, those particular verses came to mind.

We are all in different stages of spiritual growth, which sometimes I think we forget; but I saw that the both of you were actually "right."

Blessings again my friends!
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As you post it we are, But as he Posts it we are not.

Look again..

This is my final words for you: It is true you are trying convince people that that the only way to eternal life is Jesus, but do you really love him?
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He no where says that this is what HE believes, ONLY that I believe this.

God told me in my dream:

"I need you to tell the people the truth about me for they have forgotten about me"
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How do you make sense of this statement? Making of a cult.


But my opinon, he will fixed all people who are sinners, even they go to hell but he will saved them all, in other word, it's your choice, it's God choice to fixed your unperfect into a better new body
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Everyone even they that goto hell be saved, God fix all?

This means NO HELL.

You need God's love, not the laws.

I don't believe in Hell, you want to because It justice, wait until what God tell you one day, if hell is justice, you should going to hell, not based on faith but pride.
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Yet another bold claim NO HELL. YOU DON'T NEED THE LAWS.

I realized now that God is warning me that people still don't understand what is love, we are still living in a dark ages
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Another example of Him thinking that he is being warned by
God. ie ONLY HE KNOWS THIS KNOWLEDGE.


you speaking just like what Jesus hate the most, the teacher of the laws....
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Jesus hate laws.. Another example of twisting.

I am not going to listen what come of christian's mouth, I want to listen to the heart first.
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His mind is closed to what comes out of a Christian's mouth.

I think God is looking for someone who Know God fully by love, not by justice, God doesn't need justice when he already know the outcome of every human beings
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Needs NO JUSTICE.....



I can go on and on



NO WE ARE NOT THE SAME YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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As I was reading through the thread and took note of the back and forth between you and the other poster, those particular verses came to mind.

We are all in different stages of spiritual growth, which sometimes I think we forget; but I saw that the both of you were actually "right."

Blessings again my friends!


As you post it we are, But as he Posts it we are not.

Look again..

This is my final words for you: It is true you are trying convince people that that the only way to eternal life is Jesus, but do you really love him?

He no where says that this is what HE believes, ONLY that I believe this.

God told me in my dream:

"I need you to tell the people the truth about me for they have forgotten about me"

How do you make sense of this statement? Making of a cult.


But my opinon, he will fixed all people who are sinners, even they go to hell but he will saved them all, in other word, it's your choice, it's God choice to fixed your unperfect into a better new body


Everyone even they that goto hell be saved, God fix all?

This means NO HELL.

You need God's love, not the laws.

I don't believe in Hell, you want to because It justice, wait until what God tell you one day, if hell is justice, you should going to hell, not based on faith but pride.

Yet another bold claim NO HELL. YOU DON'T NEED THE LAWS.

I realized now that God is warning me that people still don't understand what is love, we are still living in a dark ages

Another example of Him thinking that he is being warned by
God. ie ONLY HE KNOWS THIS KNOWLEDGE.


you speaking just like what Jesus hate the most, the teacher of the laws....

Jesus hate laws.. Another example of twisting.

I am not going to listen what come of christian's mouth, I want to listen to the heart first.

His mind is closed to what comes out of a Christian's mouth.

I think God is looking for someone who Know God fully by love, not by justice, God doesn't need justice when he already know the outcome of every human beings



Needs NO JUSTICE.....



I can go on and on



NO WE ARE NOT THE SAME YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED.
 Quoting: Preacher Bob


The only thing I was making a comment on was the style.

One preaching compassion.

One pulling others from the fire.

Period.

I pray God's abundant blessings upon all, regardless what they believe.

PS. May I remind us all that we should remove ourselves before "strife" begins and keep our "pride" in check.

It's all about Jesus anyway, not us.
hf
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I'm sure someone already asked but...

Where did Cain's wife come from if there was only Adam, Eve, Cain, Able, and Seth?

Where did the other people in Nod come from?
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There was more than Adam, Eve, Cain and Able. There were all the humans created in Genesis chapter 1:26-31 which was the sixth day. Adam was not created until the seventh day, was given a soul (unlike the sixth day humans) and his job was to educate the humans created on the sixth day how to create tools and how to use fire. The sixth day humans lived outside the garden and Adam lived in the garden of Eden until the fall. The sixth day humans are known as Cro-magnon man. Cain married a Cro-magon woman. Cro-magnon disappeared off the planet through the inter-marriages of Seth's children with the children of Cain and other Cro-magnon humans and the mixing of Cain's children with other Cro-magnon humans.
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Preacher Bob, did you ever noticed in the revelation That God send the gospel (the good news) again?

Ever wonder why God send the gospel again before God's angry at these people who don't get the point? Why God send the gospel (144,000) or (the two witnesses) when we already have the gospel in our hand? why again? why repeat, we got the bible right? what wrong with the gospel that God sned again? we have gospel for 2000 years but why he sending the gospel again?

ever wonder that? I guess it's not the same one we being lend to or it the same old gospel, if the same, why God sending 144,000 or the two witnesses with the saem gospel?



lol...I said gospel alot isn't I?



Well as you can see, People want to Reject what is True.

People want to Hide What is True.

People want to Kill those that Profess what is True.


Why would God send Yet MORE to Be witnesses.


During the end times, You may say any number of things, But one thing YOU can be sure of, IF God sends them to US at the end times it is because we need them THEN.


He loves us and if we needed them NOW, then they would be here. Since they are not, what we have is enough to allow us to Know truth.
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How do you know that He has not?
The deception continues to crumble.
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Christ was mischaracterized to the point of Crucifixion.
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Preacher Bob, did you ever noticed in the revelation That God send the gospel (the good news) again?

Ever wonder why God send the gospel again before God's angry at these people who don't get the point? Why God send the gospel (144,000) or (the two witnesses) when we already have the gospel in our hand? why again? why repeat, we got the bible right? what wrong with the gospel that God sned again? we have gospel for 2000 years but why he sending the gospel again?

ever wonder that? I guess it's not the same one we being lend to or it the same old gospel, if the same, why God sending 144,000 or the two witnesses with the saem gospel?



lol...I said gospel alot isn't I?



Well as you can see, People want to Reject what is True.

People want to Hide What is True.

People want to Kill those that Profess what is True.


Why would God send Yet MORE to Be witnesses.


During the end times, You may say any number of things, But one thing YOU can be sure of, IF God sends them to US at the end times it is because we need them THEN.


He loves us and if we needed them NOW, then they would be here. Since they are not, what we have is enough to allow us to Know truth.
 Quoting: Preacher Bob



Does he make you feel a burning in your Bosom.

Does he make you think of MR. YOUNG.

OR MR. Smith

How do you know that He has not?
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Well YOU CAN HAVE HIM.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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Preacher Bob, I am not starting a cult

telling people whoever love jesus more than their's mom and dad and pull them in is a cult

telling people to join a group is a cult

What I am doing is teaching love, that God is love

What you are teaching is God is Justice, period

God is love, not justice, the bible said he is just mean he perfect but the bible outline "God IS love"
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Preacher Bob, I am not starting a cult

telling people whoever love jesus more than their's mom and dad and pull them in is a cult

telling people to join a group is a cult

What I am doing is teaching love, that God is love

What you are teaching is God is Justice, period

God is love, not justice, the bible said he is just mean he perfect but the bible outline "God IS love"
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YOU ARE STARTING A CULT, you claim your AUTHORITY FROM GOD.

NOT the bible. I claim my authority from God. ANYONE CAN DOUBLE CHECK. and decided for themselves. Period.


You have yet to quote one passage therefore it all comes from YOU.



Call it what you Want, It is the making of a Cult.


cult-1a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
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You are the one that claims that God talks too

You claim to be the own who has the Knowledge.


This is a thread about the bible, NOT 34's bible.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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... the Apostle John’s mission and writings.

You know the answer; The Holy Spirit came after Jesus went to the Father.
I don't know about you but when I see the Son of man upon the clouds ...i'm for certain going home for eternity.Then shall everyone who has ever lived stand before Him to be judged ...either to everlasting joy OR everlasting misery

Who was Jesus talking too???


"And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power." [MARK 9.1]


The scriptures say they don't die. <<-- meaning, they live and breath until the KINGDOM of God comes with power. The kingdom of GOD is ushered in by the Son of Man, therewith, when Jesus said; "there are some who will not taste death before they see the kingdom of GOD come with Power" is that some would witness the Son of Man.


-- How will we know when the Son of Man arrives?


Matthew.25:[31]"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, [32] and all the nations will be assembled before him.


Obviously this hasn't occurred, yet!


-- So who was Jesus talking too?

Who are those who will not taste of death before they see the kingdom of GOD (son of man) come with Power?

Who did Jesus say this too that they were going to see the Son of Man before they finished running out of time (life)?

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Jesus’ statement to His Apostles in Matthew 16:28 [Matt. 16:28] seems to foreshadow John’s postmeridian ministry: “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” The Luke version of this statement has a helpful addition in the JST:

“There are some standing here who shall not taste of death, until they see the kingdom of God coming in power” (JST, Luke 9:27, The Holy Scriptures: Inspired Version), 7 an obvious reference to the Second Coming, which John would live in the flesh to see. Revelation 10:8–11 [Rev. 10:8–11] also speaks of John’s future ministry, as stated in the chapter heading, declaring that John was “commissioned to participate in the restoration of all things.” - [link to www.lds.org] vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&l ocale=0&sourceId=9d486a4430c0c010VgnVCM1000004d82620a ____&hideNav=1

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The power of Elijah is the sealing power of the priesthood.

Who was Jesus talking too???

"And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power." [MARK 9.1]


The scriptures say they don't die. <<-- meaning, they live and breath until the KINGDOM of God comes with power. The kingdom of GOD is ushered in by the Son of Man, therewith, when Jesus said; "there are some who will not taste death before they see the kingdom of GOD come with Power" is that some would witness the Son of Man.


-- How will we know when the Son of Man arrives?


Matthew.25:[31]"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, [32] and all the nations will be assembled before him.


Obviously this hasn't occurred, yet!


-- So who was Jesus talking too?

Who are those who will not taste of death before they see the kingdom of GOD (son of man) come with Power?

Who did Jesus say this too that they were going to see the Son of Man before they finished running out of time (life)?

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UNTIL THERE IS ONE WHO CAN ANSWER THE ABOVE -- YOU'RE ALL LAMB CHOPS!!!

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Since the OP has not responded yet I will go ahead and give the correct answer. This scripture is only hard for those who doubt the awesome power of the Almighty God. It means EXACTLY what it says. There are some yet alive on earth today who were there with Jesus that day who have NEVER died and will be here when He arrives in all His glory. This is a small thing for God to do especially when you consider that even in the old testament times many lived to very old ages and remember -----ELIJAH ---- NEVER DIED and is yet alive today. I hinted at this earlier when I commented on wittnesses of the resurrection being alive today and those who have ancestors who actually witnessed the resurrection. Those who are yet alive do not make waves about their existence and are actually TOTALLY unrecognizable by the public. If you know one of them you are truly blessed and should give praises to God for your choice by Him (God). By the way, those who are yet alive today are called WATCHERS! I like to view it as God's CIA. LOL
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See also Elias; Salvation; Seal, Sealing
An Old Testament prophet who returned in the latter days to confer the keys of the sealing power on Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery. In his day, Elijah ministered in the Northern Kingdom of Israel (1 Kgs. 17-2 Kgs. 2). He had great faith in the Lord and is noted for many miracles. He prevented rain for three-and-a-half years. He raised a boy from the dead and called down fire from heaven (1 Kgs. 17-18). The Jewish people still wait for Elijah to return, as Malachi prophesied he would (Mal. 4: 5). He remains an invited guest at Jewish passover feasts, where an open door and a vacant seat always await him.

The Prophet Joseph Smith said that Elijah held the sealing power of the Melchizedek Priesthood and was the last prophet to do so before the time of Jesus Christ. He appeared on the Mount of Transfiguration with Moses and conferred the keys of the priesthood on Peter, James, and John (Matt. 17: 3). He appeared again, with Moses and others, on 3 April 1836, in the Kirtland Ohio Temple and conferred the same keys upon Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery (D&C 110: 13-16). All of this was in preparation for the second coming of the Lord, as spoken of in Malachi 4: 5- 6.

The power of Elijah is the sealing power of the priesthood by which things that are bound or loosed on earth are bound or loosed in heaven (D&C 128: 8-18). Chosen servants of the Lord on earth today have this sealing power and perform the saving ordinances of the gospel for the living and the dead (D&C 128: 8).

Sealed the heavens and was fed by ravens, 1 Kgs. 17: 1-7. Commanded the widow’s barrel of meal and cruse of oil not to fail, 1 Kgs. 17: 8-16. Raised the widow’s son from death, 1 Kgs. 17: 17-24. Defeated the priests of Baal, 1 Kgs. 18: 21-39. The still small voice spoke to him, 1 Kgs. 19: 11-12. Ascended to heaven in a chariot of fire, 2 Kgs. 2: 11. Malachi prophesied of his return in the latter days, Mal. 4: 5-6 (3 Ne. 25: 5). Appeared in the Kirtland Ohio Temple in 1836, D&C 110: 13-16. - [link to scriptures.lds.org]

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Re: I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity
Preacher Bob, I am not starting a cult

telling people whoever love jesus more than their's mom and dad and pull them in is a cult

telling people to join a group is a cult

What I am doing is teaching love, that God is love

What you are teaching is God is Justice, period

God is love, not justice, the bible said he is just mean he perfect but the bible outline "God IS love"


YOU ARE STARTING A CULT, you claim your AUTHORITY FROM GOD.

NOT the bible. I claim my authority from God. ANYONE CAN DOUBLE CHECK. and decided for themselves. Period.


You have yet to quote one passage therefore it all comes from YOU.



Call it what you Want, It is the making of a Cult.


cult-1a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

You are the one that claims that God talks too

You claim to be the own who has the Knowledge.


This is a thread about the bible, NOT 34's bible.
 Quoting: Preacher Bob

lol, trying to teach people about God is love is a cult?

Trying to teach people to help other people is a cult?

The jewish people would have said the same thing what Paul doing, like you did to me....

And Yes, I do have dream about God told me this, this is not a authority, neither do you but If you have a dream that jesus told you to go help and teach people love, would you do it or you afraid it could be satan's trap?

You worship the bible rather than God who is himself is love, you need to remember that the bible is 200 year old and could have changed in any written word or made up story, remember the new testament wasn't until 60 ad, way later than Paul and Peter ever was.

Did you know that the pagan who decided which bible would be included or not included, they took out peter revelation, Thoma's gospel and others, claming it was written by gnostic, how do they know which is which? Why only 4 gospel? Isn't the other Jesus choosen apostle doing nothing, they must have written a gospel somewhere during Jesus's times...

Bob, how come every written history show everything that Herold the great did was in written by famous scolars and other historians, but none of them have a story about killing age of 2 and below? why? Should they include that important story?

When Jesus said that God send him, you know what reaction the pharadees did, the same way you treated me as the teacher of the laws treated Jesus, all I said that God is love and show people the face of loving God but you shove it off and place it with a angry face of God, is this is what God want from you, to think justice first all the times? Why do you think jesus walk around sinners, killers, theifs, he love them, he never anrgy with them but mosty at teacher of the laws

There is a good reason why only God can judge and his only, humans cannot judge simply because we are primitive and cold heart fill with revenge and vengence and anger

This is not what God want us to be when he come back



The bible warn about the endtime...Jesus said that when he come back, how much faith he will find on earth when he come back? LITTLE! that's what the bible said, he will not find much faith when he come back

I thought your faith was strong enough? or maybe it's not the faith he talking about, he looking for good heart with full of love, love is faith itself

I don't need to believe in jesus, I love Jesus and I know he is real, I don't need to have faith but the problem is, you used fear and that's is why many many people left the church because of like you
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I meant 2000 year old
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I don't need to believe in jesus, I love Jesus and I know he is real, I don't need to have faith but the problem is, you used fear and that's is why many many people left the church because of like you
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Yes people like ME, Preaching Gods word, the very thing that BURNS YOU.

9 And when he broke open the fifth seal, I saw an altar, and underneath it all the souls of those who had been martyred for preaching the Word of God and for being faithful in their witnessing.
Rev 6:9 (Living)
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You are showing your true nature with every word you speak.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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I don't need to believe in jesus, I love Jesus and I know he is real, I don't need to have faith but the problem is, you used fear and that's is why many many people left the church because of like you



Yes people like ME, Preaching Gods word, the very thing that BURNS YOU.

9 And when he broke open the fifth seal, I saw an altar, and underneath it all the souls of those who had been martyred for preaching the Word of God and for being faithful in their witnessing.
Rev 6:9 (Living)

You are showing your true nature with every word you speak.
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you really need to look at what you are saying here, something isn't right what you say

This is something why your heart is full of darkness...
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I don't need to believe in jesus, I love Jesus and I know he is real, I don't need to have faith but the problem is, you used fear and that's is why many many people left the church because of like you



Yes people like ME, Preaching Gods word, the very thing that BURNS YOU.

9 And when he broke open the fifth seal, I saw an altar, and underneath it all the souls of those who had been martyred for preaching the Word of God and for being faithful in their witnessing.
Rev 6:9 (Living)

You are showing your true nature with every word you speak.

you really need to look at what you are saying here, something isn't right what you say

This is something why your heart is full of darkness...
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Oh Satan would say that preaching on Hell is Talk of Darkness.

I take no pleasure in knowing that people will go, but You seem to think Ignoring it will make it all go away.



YOU ARE THE AGENT OF DARKNESS.
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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Here's what I don't understand about the Bible. How did King David die? One passage has him dying of old age and another has a giant killing him.
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If adam and eve were first then how do you explain lilith
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If adam and eve were first then how do you explain lilith
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I would like to know what passage you are pointing too?
John 4


He warns us to test all teachings before accepting them

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1 John 4:1-5 (KJV)
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Here's what I don't understand about the Bible. How did King David die? One passage has him dying of old age and another has a giant killing him.
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David killed the giant.

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I don't need to believe in jesus, I love Jesus and I know he is real, I don't need to have faith but the problem is, you used fear and that's is why many many people left the church because of like you



Yes people like ME, Preaching Gods word, the very thing that BURNS YOU.

9 And when he broke open the fifth seal, I saw an altar, and underneath it all the souls of those who had been martyred for preaching the Word of God and for being faithful in their witnessing.
Rev 6:9 (Living)

You are showing your true nature with every word you speak.

you really need to look at what you are saying here, something isn't right what you say

This is something why your heart is full of darkness...



Oh Satan would say that preaching on Hell is Talk of Darkness.

I take no pleasure in knowing that people will go, but You seem to think Ignoring it will make it all go away.



YOU ARE THE AGENT OF DARKNESS.
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what about love...? is that the agent of darkness?

That is eaxacty the same thing the teacher of the law called Jesus the devil by casting out the demons

Why are you against love so much?!





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