I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity

OP

Here is a question for you.

God gave Moses the ten commandments right. God never changes and is always the same.

One of the ten commandments says clearly, thou shall not kill.

Yet why later in the bible we hear the Jews receive a word from God where God tells them to go into a village and kill everything, man, woman, children and even beast.

Now if God is love and never changes how can this be....
what about religious wars?

do you feel that it would be right for god to burn a peaceful loving soul just because he didn't accept jesus?

Bible expert.. what does this mean..

"two shall be standing in a field, one taken the other lost."


Please interpret.

OK, I offer yet another example of prophecy fabrications from the book of Matthew. This is one which all Christians have read, the one about King Herod killing all children two years of age and under in Bethlehem and the costs thereof, all in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. Here is what Matthew said:

“Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying, In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not” (Matthew 2:16-18, KJV).

Now read those verses again, and again until you realize why the words attributed to Jeremiah could not possibly be a prophecy. Eventually, you will see what Matthew failed to see: that Jeremiah is describing events which had already occurred, and there is one hell of a difference between history and prophecy.

Matthew's claim that Herod's slaying of all children in Bethlehem and the coast thereof was in fulfillment of a prophecy is, in a word, absurd. Here is the verse to which Matthew alludes, placed in Biblical context with the referenced verse highlighted. I will show both the archaic KJV and the modern, clearer NIV.

“Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not. Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy. And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border” (Jeremiah 35:15-17, KJV).

“This is what the LORD says: 'A voice is heard in Ramah, mourning and great weeping, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because her children are no more.' This is what the LORD says: 'Restrain your voice from weeping and your eyes from tears, for your work will be rewarded,' declares the LORD. 'They will return from the land of the enemy. So there is hope for your future,' declares the LORD. 'Your children will return to their own land" (Jeremiah 35:15-17, NIV).

Matthew's attempt to show a prophecy fulfillment fails on two crucial points: First, Jeremiah's description of Rachel's weeping for her children was not prophetic in nature. Jeremiah described the event as having already taken place.

Second, as can be plainly seen by the quoted verses, Rachel's children were not dead, but merely held captive. Further God promised Rachel that her children would return. Now, I ask you, how in the hell can God's promise to return Rachel's captive children be prophetic of King Herod slaying all children in the vicinity of Bethlehem centuries later? As they so eloquently say on GLP: WTF???

There is nothing in Jeremiah 35:15-17 that yields the remotest hint of prophecy except, perhaps, God's promise to Rachel that her children would be returned safely from captivity. Further, there is nothing in Jeremiah that hints of the very existence of Christ or the slaughter of innocent children by some future King. Matthew's dishonest attempt to bolster his story with this false prophecy fulfillment discredits his entire book, and the rest of the New Testament as well.

Yet, many Christians consider these verses in Matthew to be one of the purported thousands of messianic prophecies fulfilled by Christ. Unfortunately for these staunch believers, every prophecy fulfillment alleged by the Gospel writers crumbles under the weight of the slightest scrutiny. One of the most ludicrous things I have ever heard in my life is the Christian assertion that the Jews, who did not believe in an atoning savior, would make so many prophecies concerning Christ's coming.

Yes its hell for that person. Hell is a real physical place as is Heaven.

Now, interestingly, we do not 'choose' christ but its the other way around so according to the bible 'no one can boast' of having earned it.

There are many mysterious passages about that, such as

'no one can ascend to heaven without first having come from heaven.' - Christ



here is my problem; what about, say, a muslim. say that muslim dies. all that muslim ever did in his life was try to help mankind, his life was devoted to spreading love and peace. now, is god going to say, "sorry, even though you tried to do good things for people all of your life, and didn't have the opportunity to learn about christianity, you must now burn in hell for eternity"

i'm pretty sure god would understand. what do you think?


that is the classic question 'what about other people who were good etc' who did not hear about christ

several answeres. First, you are only responsible for YOU not others in that regard, and also god chooses who gets eternal life, we do not choose.

so if they never heard of christ, then they are likely not 'elect' which is the term for the people god chooses to save.

it is a hard question. the bible states that god does the choosing, and that no one no matter how good is able to save himself.

also, you might be interested to know that the bible (paul) states that we cannot really ask that question you are asking, IE why did god choose or not choose to save this or that person. Its only Gods perogative, not ours. and we are not supposed to dwell on who or why he chooses.

I understand the human normal concern you are raising. but there is your answere and its biblical and its not my answere.

It's one thing to know the bible well, but it's another to understand it spiritually through the Holy Spirit. God says quite clearly throughout the entire Bible to keep the 10 commandments.

Also "God" is spelled with a capital G, and Christ with a capital C.

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Really? a capital C eh? can you show me that in the bible, where it states that the name must be capitalized?

really, im not here to debate other so called christians I am merely offering what I understand. You can go open a thread on your views.

Did i ever say not to keep the 10 commandments? I take those as given. Would anyone disagree that murder is wrong? etc...


What...... are you talking about. Your 'understanding' of the old texts is irrelevant if faith based.



The New Testament is based on the old. God never changes, so His Laws are still in effect. He has NOT done away with them. Yeshua expounds on them as does Paul, and the book of Revelation shows very clearly that one absolutely MUST keep His 10 commandments. Jesus gave us grace but grace only covers repented sins. Deeds of unrepented sins are dutifully recorded in His books and must be judged.
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Check this out:

Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Hbr 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need [was there] that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?



Indeed, one is led of the Spirit when they are keeping the Ten Commandments, that is, the moral Law, and as such the Law does not find them guilty.

We are called to be holy and perfect, and one cannot do that without obeying God's holy Word. Jesus was our example in that He fully kept the Law.



Tell me what the'standard' for 'perfect' is? Please.

That's easy - the 10 commandments.

How does the bible define marriage. If I have a monogamous relationship and I declare it socially, am I married in a biblical sense? Or, do I need an official ceromony/marriage license for my union with my mate to be biblically acceptable as a holy union?


Well thats interesting. According to the bible you are one flesh in gods eye once you have sex. So make sure its with a 'wife'.

is it true that (according to the bible)if you are not a christian, you won't be accepted into heaven?

i know that god is forgiving and understanding. it just seems silly.


i think all the negativity caused my Q to be overlooked. i'm very curious though. i've heard if you do not accept jesus in your heart, then you will not be allowed in heaven. so hell?

Why did God make a tree of knowledge, put it smack dab in the middle of Eden, then tell Adam and Eve not to eat of it? Seems like a set up to me...

And if Eve's punishment was to have pain in childbirth and all women thereafter, why do female animals have pain during childbirth? What are they punished?

is it true that (according to the bible)if you are not a christian, you won't be accepted into heaven?

i know that god is forgiving and understanding. it just seems silly.


i think all the negativity caused my Q to be overlooked. i'm very curious though. i've heard if you do not accept jesus in your heart, then you will not be allowed in heaven. so hell?

Why do you reject Jesus?

I belIeve you get a second chance after the 1st resurrection . If you still reject then ,well that is your choice but no turning back after that.

What is the Bibles take on the Vatican\Pope?


I don't see anything there, other than they don't practice what they preach. But you have to have Discernment to understand what is truth and what is not.

But ask yourself this, if you are to have no other Gods, and not pray to idols, Why do they pray to Mary, or saints?

But they do have enough information to get you Saved, from there you need to move on if you want to grow.

Why did God make a tree of knowledge, put it smack dab in the middle of Eden, then tell Adam and Eve not to eat of it? Seems like a set up to me...

And if Eve's punishment was to have pain in childbirth and all women thereafter, why do female animals have pain during childbirth? What are they punished?

Why did God make a tree of knowledge, put it smack dab in the middle of Eden, then tell Adam and Eve not to eat of it? Seems like a set up to me...

And if Eve's punishment was to have pain in childbirth and all women thereafter, why do female animals have pain during childbirth? What are they punished?

Ok OP.

Here is the question I have, that has actually caused me to no longer consider myself a Christian.

If God is love, and he loves us, and created us, why would he want to torture us eternally just for not loving him back? And if you eternally torture someone, you never loved them.

I believe in God, and love him. I believe that Jesus was God's son. However I whole heartedly reject the church in every form I have seen so far. I also believe that the Bible is incomplete, and has been tampered with by various men over time so that the various church groups can control populations.

I believe that the church uses the myth of hell, to guilt people into a) giving them a lot of money, and b) controlling them to the point that all they want to do is recruit more sheeple for their cause.

Why did God make a tree of knowledge, put it smack dab in the middle of Eden, then tell Adam and Eve not to eat of it? Seems like a set up to me...

And if Eve's punishment was to have pain in childbirth and all women thereafter, why do female animals have pain during childbirth? What are they punished?

Is it possible for God to change his mind?

why did jesus call himself the son of man?

Why did God make a tree of knowledge, put it smack dab in the middle of Eden, then tell Adam and Eve not to eat of it? Seems like a set up to me...

And if Eve's punishment was to have pain in childbirth and all women thereafter, why do female animals have pain during childbirth? What are they punished?


That tree was 'the knowledge of good and evil' not just 'knowledge' as many translations state and its a key error.

where we got into trouble was not being able to handle the knowledge of evil well. so now we are here.

Evil masquerades as fun or good when in fact ruins you.

so the tree of knowledge of good and evil was forbidden.

knowledge is not forbidden, obviously.

Why did God make a tree of knowledge, put it smack dab in the middle of Eden, then tell Adam and Eve not to eat of it? Seems like a set up to me...

And if Eve's punishment was to have pain in childbirth and all women thereafter, why do female animals have pain during childbirth? What are they punished?


That tree was 'the knowledge of good and evil' not just 'knowledge' as many translations state and its a key error.

where we got into trouble was not being able to handle the knowledge of evil well. so now we are here.

Evil masquerades as fun or good when in fact ruins you.

so the tree of knowledge of good and evil was forbidden.

knowledge is not forbidden, obviously.


Ok, but why did God put it there? And why was Eve punished and all her female descendants? And why were female animals punished the same way Eve was? Pain during the birth process...

It just seems like a very oddly put together story.

Jesus came to save the house of Israel . When the prophecies are fullfilled,what happens to the Christian Gentiles. Jesus called the canaan woman a dog and told her he is here for Israel.

Is it possible for God to change his mind?


yes there are passages that say that he changed his mind at times and did not judge some people immediately but 'repented of it' for example

Jesus came to save the house of Israel . When the prophecies are fullfilled,what happens to the Christian Gentiles. Jesus called the canaan woman a dog and told her he is here for Israel.


OP, how would you answer this question? Let's see if you really understand the Bible like you say.

3rd time...
The Bible is a spiritual book that underlies it's literal rendering. It is a spiritual book written by a Spirit God and can only be wholly understood by those who are sealed with the mind of Christ.
If I say "the fig that fails to ripen shall surely fall in the winter winds of tribulation", what do I mean?

Why did God make a tree of knowledge, put it smack dab in the middle of Eden, then tell Adam and Eve not to eat of it? Seems like a set up to me...

And if Eve's punishment was to have pain in childbirth and all women thereafter, why do female animals have pain during childbirth? What are they punished?