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Message Subject I know the bible well - ask me a question that you have never understood about it or christianity
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How to you explain the concept of predestination that is written about frequently in the bible?

Also, where did the zombies (also called Saints in the bible) described in the book of Matthew come from and where did they go?
 Quoting: Urbain


PREDESTINATION. Are you sure you want to get into that???
It is one of the hardest to comprehend, but we will give it a shot.

Ephesians 1:4-5
4) "According as he hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love.
5) Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself according to the good pleasure of His will".

The key of course to this is Jesus Christ. "IN HIM". In union with Christ. Apart from Christ there would have been no election and no salvation.

God always deals with man in Christ. YES, even back to Genesis 1:1. (Colossian 1:16-17).

BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD = Gods choice was eternal and His plan is timeless. The Fall of man was not a surprise to God and redemptation was not an afterthought. God provided salvation before even one star was hung in space.

NOW.........Election is NOT a fatalistic doctrine in which God elects some to heaven and some to hell. THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR THAT THOUGHT.
That thought is a man centered one. It comes from the idea of man that for every action there is a REACTION. In other words, "If God elects some to go to heaven, THEN THAT MEANS SOME ARE ELECTED TO HELL".

God's election provides for the means as well as the ends. God's infallible Word plainly tells us:

Romans 10:13..
"For WHOSOEVER shall call upon the name of the Lord shall
be saved".

John 3:16...
" For God so loved the WORLD that He gave His only
begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should
not perish but have everlasting life".

Man, you and I, either receives or rejects God's provisions in Christ for our salvation. So far as the human race is concerned, EVERY PERSON may not only accept Christ but there are in fact urged and invited to do so. The basis or the ground of this invitation is the work of the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Here it comes, ready??? Divine FOREORDINATION and human freedom are humanly irreconcilable,but are like two parallel lines that meet in infinity, they have there meeting in God.

The purpose then of Gods election then is stated as, THAT WE SHOULD BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLAME BEFORE HIM IN LOVE.
That tells us that God's elective grace is not "pie in the sky, by and by", but it has to do with a seperated life here and now. (Romans 8:29)
Holiness is the positive side of a life lived like Christ.
(Hebrews 12:14). That does not mean "sinless" but rather STAINLESS.

The purpose then of predestination is thet we should experience SONSHIP. By means of Christs mediation and for His own to serve Him and glorify Him, ACCORDING TO HIS GOOD WILL IT WAS RIGHT FOR HIM TO DO THIS.

This is a lot to digest and I pray that God will allow you to see this great plan He has for you and me.

Ta...DA!!!!!!!! Once again the literal, baby Christian comes through for you. tomato
 
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