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Celtic (Pictavian)
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I have my own thoughts on the subject, which I'll delve into later in this thread.

It seems it might be difficult for many men to consider that they had incarnated in feminine, physical forms in the past, which I understand to a degree.

I'd like to hear from females who think they may have incarnated in male, physical forms also.

Any thoughts? Hoping to learn something in this thread.

hf

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Interesting topic Celtic.
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Thank you, Phoenix, and thanks also for the pin.


I was a pin virgin until 5 minutes ago.. lol

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Thank you, Phoenix, and thanks also for the pin.


I was a pin virgin until 5 minutes ago.. lol
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lol! I have always wondered if one believed in reincarnation if the gender roles would be switched.
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Thank you, Phoenix, and thanks also for the pin.


I was a pin virgin until 5 minutes ago.. lol


lol! I have always wondered if one believed in reincarnation if the gender roles would be switched.
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Yes.. before I go into that, I think I'll wait for responses which refute the idea that gender switching through different incarnations is feasible.

Spoke to someone in glp chat who believes in reincarnation, but not in the idea that we may switch genders.. sounds like an interesting avenue to explore
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Re: Reincarnation and gender
I have my own thoughts on the subject, which I'll delve into later in this thread.

It seems it might be difficult for many men to consider that they had incarnated in feminine, physical forms in the past, which I understand to a degree.

I'd like to hear from females who think they may have incarnated in male, physical forms also.

Any thoughts? Hoping to learn something in this thread.

hf
 Quoting: Celtic (Pictavian)


I am not certain about reincarnation even though I have my own past life memory which I can't readily explain! However, assuming that reincarnation occures, I have no problem with gender change as I believe that the soul - our eternal essense, has no particular gender identity. Gender identity being heavily influenced by hormones which would have zero effect on soul!

Just my opinion! hf
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Thank you, Phoenix, and thanks also for the pin.


I was a pin virgin until 5 minutes ago.. lol


lol! I have always wondered if one believed in reincarnation if the gender roles would be switched.



Yes.. before I go into that, I think I'll wait for responses which refute the idea that gender switching through different incarnations is feasible.

Spoke to someone in glp chat who believes in reincarnation, but not in the idea that we may switch genders.. sounds like an interesting avenue to explore
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Cool, I look forward to the dialogue.
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Why not? The body's just a shell after all. Who cares where the bits dangle?
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does this world got any better?

I tell you the answer:

ABSOLUTELY NO!

and it's getting worse, so that is why I don't believe this reincarnation shit!

It's like, do what you want, you can correct it in another life!


fuck this shit!
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I have my own thoughts on the subject, which I'll delve into later in this thread.

It seems it might be difficult for many men to consider that they had incarnated in feminine, physical forms in the past, which I understand to a degree.

I'd like to hear from females who think they may have incarnated in male, physical forms also.

Any thoughts? Hoping to learn something in this thread.

hf


I am not certain about reincarnation even though I have my own past life memory which I can't readily explain! However, assuming that reincarnation occures, I have no problem with gender change as I believe that the soul - our eternal essense, has no particular gender identity. Gender identity being heavily influenced by hormones which would have zero effect on soul!

Just my opinion! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell


That's a fair view I think, and though I understand what you have said about our "essence" being gender non-specific, I do believe that our "essence" is either one gender or the other.

Mine is male obviously.. lol

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does this world got any better?

I tell you the answer:

ABSOLUTELY NO!

and it's getting worse, so that is why I don't believe this reincarnation shit!

It's like, do what you want, you can correct it in another life!


fuck this shit!
 Quoting: TheRestless


"does this world got any better?"

That's about a person's personal experience and perspective, ie my personal world is getting better because I'm making it get better.

You are entitled to your opinion of course, and I'm not knocking it or saying it's not true, from your perspective at least.

I think this world IS getting better, but neither of us is 'right' really
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I'm a firm believer in reincarnation. I remember several lives. They have been female. I believe male and female are possible. Mine have been mostly female. But this is just my humble opinion.
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That's a fair view I think, and though I understand what you have said about our "essence" being gender non-specific, I do believe that our "essence" is either one gender or the other.

Mine is male obviously.. lol

peace
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I believe that this is something that this life will not reveal to us and we will be left with only our speculations. While you may believe that our essence is either one or the other, I believe it is an equal blend of both! The determination of which one dominates is made in the physical plane by our physiology and hormones.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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I believe that this is something that this life will not reveal to us and we will be left with only our speculations. While you may believe that our essence is either one or the other, I believe it is an equal blend of both! The determination of which one dominates is made in the physical plane by our physiology and hormones.
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Oh yes, I completely agree that the pinnacle of our spiritual essence would be the finely balanced combination of the experience of both male and female genders, but stand by my claim that we would ultimately be one or the other.

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Reincarnation is false - why? Imagine that all your relatives and progenitors were still alive but contributed to the gene pool exactly the same. If they had not died but still had babies, would you still be here? The answer is yes because you being here is a matter of procreation only, death is not required or necessary and can be taken out of the equation. That leaves me with two options: 1) No God - this life is "it" for us or 2) we continue as spirits in another sphere.
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Reincarnation is false - why? Imagine that all your relatives and progenitors were still alive but contributed to the gene pool exactly the same. If they had not died but still had babies, would you still be here? The answer is yes because you being here is a matter of procreation only, death is not required or necessary and can be taken out of the equation. That leaves me with two options: 1) No God - this life is "it" for us or 2) we continue as spirits in another sphere.
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Who says all souls will incarnate here on Earth?

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Oh yes, I completely agree that the pinnacle of our spiritual essence would be the finely balanced combination of the experience of both male and female genders, but stand by my claim that we would ultimately be one or the other.

hf
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I understand your perspective and for me the ultimate is the return to perfect balance, however, it raises another issue.........what is ultimate?

Now, this may be getting off track but I happen to believe in eternity. For me to believe in eternity, I have to believe in no beginning and no end as anything else doesn't fit! As such, there can also be no mid point or definable period along the way because in the face of eternity, such just don't make sense. So, in eternity as I see it, there can never be an ultimate for the same reasons already stated. So how do I see eternity unfolding for me? To be honest, I can't even begin to explain it, it is just somehow there in that I can say I know! Ultimately - there's that word again - I see eternity as cycles for ever changing.

Therefore it makes sense to me that throughout eternity, my experience will also continually be changing, gender being only a fleeting indefinable moment in the experience! It's what lays beyond this fleeting moment that excites me.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Oh yes, I completely agree that the pinnacle of our spiritual essence would be the finely balanced combination of the experience of both male and female genders, but stand by my claim that we would ultimately be one or the other.

hf


I understand your perspective and for me the ultimate is the return to perfect balance, however, it raises another issue.........what is ultimate?

Now, this may be getting off track but I happen to believe in eternity. For me to believe in eternity, I have to believe in no beginning and no end as anything else doesn't fit! As such, there can also be no mid point or definable period along the way because in the face of eternity, such just don't make sense. So, in eternity as I see it, there can never be an ultimate for the same reasons already stated. So how do I see eternity unfolding for me? To be honest, I can't even begin to explain it, it is just somehow there in that I can say I know! Ultimately - there's that word again - I see eternity as cycles for ever changing.

Therefore it makes sense to me that throughout eternity, my experience will also continually be changing, gender being only a fleeting indefinable moment in the experience! It's what lays beyond this fleeting moment that excites me.
 Quoting: Ozicell


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I definately believe in reincarmation and yes you probably do change genders.
I think the good males who are gentle considerate caring and loving are males who have been female in a recent previouus lifetime.

They arent wimps or unmasculine just gentle souls who have wisdom from their recent female reincarnation

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Reincarnation is simply ancesteral cellular memory of all your ancestors, all the way back.
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Do you believe in Twin Flames, Ozicell?
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I can't say that I have heard of this expression, may I ask what it is about?
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Do you believe in Twin Flames, Ozicell?



I can't say that I have heard of this expression, may I ask what it is about?
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Reincarnation is false - why? Imagine that all your relatives and progenitors were still alive but contributed to the gene pool exactly the same. If they had not died but still had babies, would you still be here? The answer is yes because you being here is a matter of procreation only, death is not required or necessary and can be taken out of the equation. That leaves me with two options: 1) No God - this life is "it" for us or 2) we continue as spirits in another sphere.



Who says all souls will incarnate here on Earth?

hf
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Yes, that why I say "as spirits in another sphere." Here's another thought: If God exists, would he allow man to go extinct, the way of the Dodo? The free agency he's given us allows us to war and kill ourselves off. Would humans exist ever again?
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yeah.. so what do you want to know?

i've been a male many times before.

what do you wanna do today?


i'm available if you want to talk about carbureators.. or girls. lol!!
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Reincarnation is simply ancesteral cellular memory of all your ancestors, all the way back.
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DNA certainly is powerful stuff, so is collective consciousness!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Sure you can reincarnate as male/female to learn lessons.
We wouldn't want any of you guys being short changed by not having the opportunity to be female. Pretty you will be
male and female in your lifetimes.
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yeah.. so what do you want to know?

i've been a male many times before.

what do you wanna do today?


i'm available if you want to talk about carbureators.. or girls. lol!!
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Which gender do you prefer being, girly girl?

Given your nick, that's probably a stupid question,. but if the answer is female, could you elaborate on why please?

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Reincarnation is simply ancesteral cellular memory of all your ancestors, all the way back.
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What you describe is carnation, not re-incarnation. There is no recycling because it is unnecessary. Each being is unique and when it dies will never be coming back, otherwise we are just fathering ourselves.
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Re: Reincarnation and gender
yeah.. so what do you want to know?

i've been a male many times before.

what do you wanna do today?


i'm available if you want to talk about carbureators.. or girls. lol!!


Which gender do you prefer being, girly girl?

Given your nick, that's probably a stupid question,. but if the answer is female, could you elaborate on why please?

hf
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thats simple a girl so you can be smart all of the time
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Take your pick, my friend
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Thankyou Celtic, I haven't heard the expression before but I have probably always been aware of the concept! Do I believe in this concept? My friend, I believe all things are possible. Where my twin is concerned - first I must find myself!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.





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