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SheldonCooper User ID: 773110 Hungary 09/21/2009 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists need to switch to calling themselves anti-religion. Then there would be no arguments or debates because all religions are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 740244That would include their religion! We don't have to call ourselves anything, religion is pointless and as shown by the OP it lacks rationality in their sad attempt to 'debunk atheism'. Just remember your 'God' didn't have a creator so came from nowhere also. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 690159 United States 09/21/2009 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists need to switch to calling themselves anti-religion. Then there would be no arguments or debates because all religions are Quoting: SheldonCooper 773110That would include their religion! We don't have to call ourselves anything, religion is pointless and as shown by the OP it lacks rationality in their sad attempt to 'debunk atheism'. Just remember your 'God' didn't have a creator so came from nowhere also. The fact you call yourself an atheist makes you part of an organised religion :) |
SheldonCooper User ID: 773110 Hungary 09/21/2009 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists need to switch to calling themselves anti-religion. Then there would be no arguments or debates because all religions are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 690159That would include their religion! We don't have to call ourselves anything, religion is pointless and as shown by the OP it lacks rationality in their sad attempt to 'debunk atheism'. Just remember your 'God' didn't have a creator so came from nowhere also. The fact you call yourself an atheist makes you part of an organised religion :) No it doesn't. Religious people tend to have the least idea of what constitutes a religion. About as smart as the people who wrote 'Jedi' on the last concensus thinking that would make it a religion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 690159 United States 09/21/2009 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists need to switch to calling themselves anti-religion. Then there would be no arguments or debates because all religions are Quoting: SheldonCooper 773110That would include their religion! We don't have to call ourselves anything, religion is pointless and as shown by the OP it lacks rationality in their sad attempt to 'debunk atheism'. Just remember your 'God' didn't have a creator so came from nowhere also. The fact you call yourself an atheist makes you part of an organised religion :) No it doesn't. Religious people tend to have the least idea of what constitutes a religion. About as smart as the people who wrote 'Jedi' on the last concensus thinking that would make it a religion. But you all believe/don't believe the exact same things you know. that's not organised? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 774308 Ireland 09/21/2009 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God of the Gaps OP. The argument is based on regressing the universe until we are forced at some point to say "I don't know" then you say "that's God." What will you do when our knowledge expands (as it inevitably will) and we recognize the reality of multiple universes and easily extrapolate the origin of this one? Then you'll say, "what is outside those universes and what created that which contains them", we are forced again to say "I don't know", then once again you say "it's God". Once upon a time somebody asked "what is the sun" the answer was at that time unknown, so they said "it must be God". As the torch of knowledge illuminates more and more of the cosmos beyond our tiny planet, your God has fewer and fewer shadows you can hide him in. One day, maybe not within our lifetimes, maybe not for a 1000 years we will have illuminated every dark corner of the universe, and God will still not be found. |
SheldonCooper User ID: 773110 Hungary 09/21/2009 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists need to switch to calling themselves anti-religion. Then there would be no arguments or debates because all religions are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 690159That would include their religion! We don't have to call ourselves anything, religion is pointless and as shown by the OP it lacks rationality in their sad attempt to 'debunk atheism'. Just remember your 'God' didn't have a creator so came from nowhere also. The fact you call yourself an atheist makes you part of an organised religion :) No it doesn't. Religious people tend to have the least idea of what constitutes a religion. About as smart as the people who wrote 'Jedi' on the last concensus thinking that would make it a religion. But you all believe/don't believe the exact same things you know. that's not organised? Pretty weak response. A religion constitutes more than a group of people believing/not believeing the same thing. Not all 'atheists' believe/dont believe the same thing or in the same way. There is no set 'atheist' narrative or discourse. There is no set 'atheist' practice, can't even get tax exemption. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 775525 Hungary 09/21/2009 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | worship cryst and go to the weeping wall if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 609027or go do some excersize to the ol black block if that´s your thing. but keep that shit out of the government and schools. no place for primitive hobbies there. if you ask me. amen! :D |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 775525 Hungary 09/21/2009 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God of the Gaps OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 774308The argument is based on regressing the universe until we are forced at some point to say "I don't know" then you say "that's God." What will you do when our knowledge expands (as it inevitably will) and we recognize the reality of multiple universes and easily extrapolate the origin of this one? Then you'll say, "what is outside those universes and what created that which contains them", we are forced again to say "I don't know", then once again you say "it's God". Once upon a time somebody asked "what is the sun" the answer was at that time unknown, so they said "it must be God". As the torch of knowledge illuminates more and more of the cosmos beyond our tiny planet, your God has fewer and fewer shadows you can hide him in. One day, maybe not within our lifetimes, maybe not for a 1000 years we will have illuminated every dark corner of the universe, and God will still not be found. WOW! Did you actually write that? Nice! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 774308 Ireland 09/21/2009 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A religion constitutes more than a group of people believing/not believeing the same thing. Not all 'atheists' believe/dont believe the same thing or in the same way. There is no set 'atheist' narrative or discourse. There is no set 'atheist' practice, can't even get tax exemption. Quoting: SheldonCooper 773110Exactly. From now on, whenever a believer calls atheism a religion, respond with "where's our tax exemption?" |
Bugeater User ID: 754202 United States 09/21/2009 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just because people don't believe in the Christian god and the bible that is the base of your religious belief doesn't mean they don't believe in something. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775589It just the Christian god that doesn't pass the test. You don't understand God if this is truly what you think. |
Bugeater User ID: 754202 United States 09/21/2009 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A religion constitutes more than a group of people believing/not believeing the same thing. Not all 'atheists' believe/dont believe the same thing or in the same way. There is no set 'atheist' narrative or discourse. There is no set 'atheist' practice, can't even get tax exemption. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 774308Exactly. From now on, whenever a believer calls atheism a religion, respond with "where's our tax exemption?" Good luck with this silliness. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 609027 Finland 09/21/2009 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | worship cryst and go to the weeping wall if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 775525or go do some excersize to the ol black block if that´s your thing. but keep that shit out of the government and schools. no place for primitive hobbies there. if you ask me. amen! :D and you can forget the freaky hindu superhero cartoons aswell. |
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Bugeater User ID: 754202 United States 09/21/2009 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It amazes me how the religious nutters will stoop to all sorts of deceit and cheap tricks to try and peddle their trash. Quoting: Witness_Just amazing. And then they think that their actions are "holy". Irony needs intelligence to understand it, I guess. LOL, because people are not perfect you're willing to give up a chance at salvation? Don't presume to be intelligent, you are not the judge. |
Witness_ User ID: 735641 United Kingdom 09/21/2009 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would bet 90% or more "atheists" are actually just lazy and don't want to investigate the bible for themselves, in other words, they're destroyed for a lack of knowledge. Quoting: BugeaterHow much money? Go on, put real money on the table. I know the Bible way better than you, for sure. How many times have you read it cover to cover? Heh heh. Your arrogance is astounding, but that's the nature of the religious. Arrogance matches only by ignorance. 'cmon let's see your money. |
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SheldonCooper User ID: 773110 Hungary 09/21/2009 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would bet 90% or more "atheists" are actually just lazy and don't want to investigate the bible for themselves, in other words, they're destroyed for a lack of knowledge. Quoting: BugeaterSurely you mean 90% of 'god' believers haven't studied the bible or dared to question the things they were told to believe. Believing without solid proof is a lack of knowledge. Rational thinking is behind most 'atheists' which is far from a lack of knowledge. Which version of the bible would you have people study? they are all 'the word of god' yet there are so many differences. |