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the real question is how long till world peace?

 
Scuba Steve
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the real question is how long till world peace?
There wont be open contact until humans stop acting like barbaric animals. Look at it from their perspective, why would any alien race want to share their technology and knowledge with us? It would be like the US giving Iran nuclear weapons.

Humans dont deserve this yet, and dont think we do because look around. We can't even get along with our own race!
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I accidentally made a new thread instead of posting in a current thread but answer if you wish!
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There will never be world peace while there is testosterone.

sorry..
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Jeremiah 6:14
They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
As soon as unnatural life ends.
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
New thread, but a great question.

There will be no world peace until Yeshua returns.
"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."
- Matthew 11:15
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Liberty begins when governments end.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
Liberty begins when governments end.
 Quoting: Shingen




And anarchy starts
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Liberty begins when governments end.




And anarchy starts
 Quoting: mangomango


After ages during which the earth produced harmless trilobites and butterflies, evolution progressed to the point at which it has generated Neros, Genghis Khans, and Hitlers. This, however, I believe is a passing nightmare; in time the earth will become again incapable of supporting life, and peace will return.
Bertrand Russell


"The march of democracy will lead to world peace."
George W. Bush



In the 1960's Buckminster Fuller proposed a “great logistics game” and “world peace game” (later shortened to simply, the “World Game”) that was intended to be a tool that would facilitate a comprehensive, anticipatory, design science approach to the problems of the world. The use of “world” in the title obviously refers to Fuller's global perspective and his contention that we now need a systems approach that deals with the world as a whole, and not a piece meal approach that tackles our problems in what he called a “local focus hocus pocus” manner. The entire world is now the relevant unit of analysis, not the city, state or nation. We are, in Fuller's words, onboard Spaceship Earth, and the illogic ogay_forum00 nation state admirals all trying to steer the spaceship in different directions is made clear through the metaphor--as well in Fuller's more caustic assessment of nation states as “blood clots” in the world's global metabolism. The logic for the use of the word “game” in the title is even more instructive. It says a lot about Fuller's approach to governance and social problem solving. Obviously intended as a very serious tool, Fuller choose to call his vision a “game” because he wanted it seen as something that was accessible to everyone, not just the elite few in the power structure who thought they were running the show. In this sense, it was one of Fuller's more profoundly subversive visions. Fuller wanted a tool that would be accessible to everyone, whose findings would be widely disseminated to the masses through a free press, and which would, through this ground-swell of public vetting and acceptance of solutions to society's problems, ultimately force the political process to move in the direction that the values, imagination and problem solving skills of those playing the democratically open world game dictated. It was a view of the political process that some might think naiie, if they only saw the world for what it was when Fuller was proposing his idea (the 1960s)--minus personal computers and the Internet. The playing field was not to be so much as leveled, or expanded, but the good 'ol boy political process was to subverted out of existence by a process that brings Thomas Jefferson into the twentieth century. In order to have this kind of power, the game needed to have the kind of information and tools for manipulating that information that empowers. It needed a comprehensive database that would provide the players of the world game with better data than their politically elected or appointed counterparts. They needed an inventory of the world's vital statistics--where everything was and in what quantities and qualities, from minerals to manufactured goods and services, to humans and their unmet needs as well as capabilities. They also needed an information source that monitored the current state of the world, bringing vital news into the “game room” live. None of this existed when Fuller began talking about a world game. And then something funny happened on the way to the twenty-first century: CNN, personal computers, CD ROMS, the Internet and worldwide web, supercomputer power on personal computers and reams of data about the world, its resources, problems and potential solutions started to bubble to the surface and transform the world and the way we communicate, do business, research and govern. The World Game that Fuller envisioned was to be a place where individuals or teams of people came and competed, or cooperated, to:

“Make the world work, for 100% of humanity, in the shortest possible time, through spontaneous cooperation, without ecological offense or the disadvantage of anyone.”

[link to www.bfi.org]
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i have news for you my freind the next time we have world peace will be after www3 sad to say but true.
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Peace begins with a smile ~

Mother Theresa
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peace
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
Liberty begins when governments end.




And anarchy starts
 Quoting: mangomango



Governments are militarized which means they can get away with all sorts of bullshit. but I dont think realistic to say you can get rid of government, but we must get rid of huge and unaccountable government. The people never should have allowed imaginary money to be made, or wait, nvm the government did that.
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
Don´t take it on a day or two, I´d guess 370.000.000 years.
So relax dude.
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
New thread, but a great question.

There will be no world peace until Yeshua returns.
 Quoting: Goddrunk

yup. agree. just false peace before the real deal.
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
I beg to differ. There will be open contact to "get it out of the way" and upgrade the tech. Mainly in construction.

However, there will not be world peace for a millenium at least. There is a secret to it... a secret which even if you know it, you cannot apply it. Yet, and for a long, long while at least.

After all, we don't want a bunch of soft, caring nobodies on a defenceless planet.
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I want world peace... doesn't mean I'm gonna get it.
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World peace is unavoidable, it is human nature.

I am waiting for the 100th monkey to realize it within, peace and freedom.:)

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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
Liberty begins when governments end.




And anarchy starts
 Quoting: mangomango


Exactly.. as the philosophy of modern anarchy is lawful self-government...where everyone is truly equal and the few can no longer dominate the many through centralized monopolies of violence and theft.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
Liberty begins when governments end.




And anarchy starts
 Quoting: mangomango


This is the problem, some people just have such a low opinion of self and others without guidelines to pave the way!
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Re: the real question is how long till world peace?
Jeremiah 6:14
They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763223


PEACE WILL NOT BE ESTABLISHED IN 'THIS' WORLD! IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD THERE WILL BE EVERLASTING PEACE! TO THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND, THIS IS THE ONLY HOPE!





GLP