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Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

 
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Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant
LONDON, England (CNN) -- A leading UK hospital has defended its practice of using organs donated by smokers after the death of a soldier who received the cancerous lungs of a heavy smoker.
Corporal Matthew Millington, 31, died at his home in 2008, less than a year after receiving a transplant that was supposed to save his life at Papworth Hospital -- the UK's largest specialist cardiothoracic hospital, in Cambridgeshire, east England.

Papworth Hospital released a statement saying using donor lungs from smokers was not "unusual."

The statement added that the hospital had no option but to use lungs from smokers as "the number of lung transplants carried out would have been significantly lower," if they didn't.

Should hospitals use smokers' lungs in transplants?

[link to www.cnn.com]
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10/12/2009 07:37 PM
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Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant
remember kids

smoking DOES NOT CAUSE LUNG CANCER

that was a MONSANTO plot,,

research it,,,,,,,
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Ah...socialized medicine!

By all means! Replaced my diseased organs with diseased organs! Why the hell not?
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hmm I wonder how worse it could have been if the guy was a hasidic jew or muslim and received pig lungs without knowing.
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10/12/2009 07:41 PM
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Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant
oh please
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Isn't there a possibility that your body can reject another organ regardless of the organ's health? I mean, I would prefer something healthy, but if I took a transfer I would know that there is a chance of my body rejecting it either way.
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I rarely raise this, but damn

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i actually laughed when i read this thread title... it's like a madtv skit lmao
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Isn't there a possibility that your body can reject another organ regardless of the organ's health? I mean, I would prefer something healthy, but if I took a transfer I would know that there is a chance of my body rejecting it either way.
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???

Oh, fuck it.
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You know what they're doing.

They're transplanting organs out of patients who died from lung cancer.

Most die as a result of heart failure, combined with emphysema, but I guess if the transplantee has a functional heart, he might survive a few months..

I suppose the hearts they use came from cardiac arrest patients.

How about eyeballs from the blind???


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Lung cancer sucks. Presumably the guy would have died sooner without the transplant, so any time he got was gravy. Hope he appreciated it.

There are never enough organs to go around. Be an organ doner, at least until the stem cell research lets us grow new ones in vats.
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Lung cancer sucks. Presumably the guy would have died sooner without the transplant, so any time he got was gravy. Hope he appreciated it.

There are never enough organs to go around. Be an organ doner, at least until the stem cell research lets us grow new ones in vats.
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Yeah, let's all keep the elite living forever!

Do you think theyd've let this nobody have a set of healthy lungs?
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and why is it that journalists always have to use superlatives(?) to spice up their stupid stories?... "leading hospital"... ok, so noooow i know that it wasn't one of them 4th rate 24/7 clinics on the corner that actually put cancerous organs into an already dying man, it was a "leading hospital"!! i hate this world.
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10/12/2009 07:49 PM
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The anti rejection drugs would have fired up the cancer even quicker.
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The anti rejection drugs would have fired up the cancer even quicker.
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Why the fuck did they bother?

For practice?
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I like to find humor in things here on G.L.P. sometimes. I cannot find anything funny about this.

But, I will say, that with a little money they could have had perfectly healthy Chinese prisoner lungs. It's like ordering take out (literally) from the Chinese. You order it, they check out a prisoner to make sure he has good lungs, then they take him out and put a gun to the back of his head and pull the trigger and you got lungs! The only reason that this soldier didn't get those lungs is because Britain has a policy against accepting Chinese organs.

Neither one of these situations is funny, it just shows how cheap life is anymore. Whichever dehumanized victim you would feel sorry for, or maybe you just can't feel any emotion anymore and just laugh at these sufferings, we all all being dehumanized now, soon enough you be the poor son of a bitch on the operating table, getting Obamacare rationed and scrounged organs or whatever. How funny is that?

If it's me, you'll laugh at me, if it's you, will you be laughing? How will it feel at our laughing at you while you gasp for air. Pretty funny, huh? Can we bring beer and popcorn and watch you suffer? Aw, C'mon, it'll be hilarious! 5a

Last Edited by DoUCDem2? on 10/12/2009 08:17 PM
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You've got what you came with. Nobody deserves a day longer than what they were born with. I want nothing form anyone to extend my life nor shall I give of my organs for the same purpose!
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10/12/2009 08:21 PM
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I like to find humor in things here on G.L.P. sometimes. I cannot find anything funny about this.

But, I will say, that with a little money they could have had perfectly healthy Chinese prisoner lungs. It's like ordering take out (literally) from the Chinese. You order it, they check out a prisoner to make sure he has good lungs, then they take him out and put a gun to the back of his head and pull the trigger and you got lungs! The only reason that this soldier didn't get those lungs is because Britain has a policy against accepting Chinese organs.

Neither one of these situations is funny, it just shows how cheap life is anymore. Whichever dehumanized victim you would feel sorry for, or maybe you just can't feel any emotion anymore and just laugh at these sufferings, we all all being dehumanized now, soon enough you be the poor son of a bitch on the operating table, getting Obamacare rationed and scrounged organs or whatever. How funny is that?

If it's me, you'll laugh at me, if it's you, will you be laughing? How will it feel at our laughing at you while you gasp for air. Pretty funny, huh? Can we bring beer and popcorn and watch you suffer? Aw, C'mon, it'll be hilarious! 5a
 Quoting: DoUCDem2?


You make a couple of good points, which is why I encourage support of any research that gets us closer to growing new organs from stem cells or whatever. Once the bugs are worked out there's no reason getting a transplant of new lungs containing your DNA can't be as easy as going to McDonalds, and no more expensive than buying a good used car.

Then no one laughs at anyone but the comics.
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Thing is, did his procedure cost any less than it would have had he recieved healthy lungs? Was his case any different because of who was paying? WTF!? Russian roulette!
"No guts, no glory!"
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You've got what you came with. Nobody deserves a day longer than what they were born with. I want nothing form anyone to extend my life nor shall I give of my organs for the same purpose!
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I'm with you, the reason I'm not an organ donor? I know I'm a bit paranoid about government, etc. look what forum I'm on.

But seriously, if you're an organ donor these days, and let's say the Obama cronies are deciding whether to help you with , let's say you have a 50%-60% chance of survival. They decide that you, let's say a known Conservative or Libertarian is out cold and some Elite government type, like Kissinger or Jimmy Carter needs an organ. Do you trust a doctor like Howard Dean, to decide to help you, or help his friend?

Yeah, I know it sounds paranoid, but we're talking about the likes of Howard Dean, and the rest of the crazed "Yee Haaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!! crowd , I'm just sayin', I'm using my organs and then they go in the ground, unless I get sent to the wrong hospital.

Last Edited by DoUCDem2? on 10/12/2009 08:32 PM
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Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant
You have to take anti-rejection drugs when you receive a transplant to prevent your body from rejecting the organ


One of the risks is ANY CANCEROUS cells start growing like wild fire (immune system is suppressed by the drugs) and if you do develop cancer there's really nothing that can be done about it.


So using lungs from someone who was a heavy smoker is taking one hell of a gamble...of course you also have to factor in that anyone needing a lung transplant will probably be dead in a year if they dont get it.
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10/12/2009 11:58 PM
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Is this any crazier than the Red Cross knowingly taking blood from gays and spreading the AIDS virus?
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Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant
LONDON, England (CNN) -- received the cancerous lungs of a heavy smoker.

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this is BS and you all know it. yeah, doctors transplanted the cancerous lungs of a heavy smoker, right!!!!!!


only children would believe this imbecilic story.


c'mon guys we ain't that stupid! are we?????
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Fuckit. Cannibals should be grateful for any freaky extra time they get.
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If recipients don't consider themselves cannibals, well, there they go....consuming resources at the expense of other human beings' flesh....whatever. Argue it with GOD.
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Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant
and why is it that journalists always have to use superlatives(?) to spice up their stupid stories?... "leading hospital"... ok, so noooow i know that it wasn't one of them 4th rate 24/7 clinics on the corner that actually put cancerous organs into an already dying man, it was a "leading hospital"!! i hate this world.
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But it WAS a LEADING hospital.

Its LEADING in the death toll.
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Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant
NOt all heavy smokers die of lung cancer.
More than likely they died in a car accident and their organs were freshly tranplanted into this ingrate.

If this practice of using smokers lungs is pretty common and he just happened to have copped the lungs of someone who had early stage lung cancer, then it's just BAD LUCK.
Just like if the lungs were of a non smoker who it was found had early stage lung cancer.
Shit happens. NOthing is guaranteed.

Lung cancer is hard to detect and most people don't know they have it until it's almost terminal. So it's not something you can reliably screen for in situations like this, without slicing the lung and making it untransplantable anyway.

The guy got an extra year with loved ones.
A year he wouldn't have had otherwise thanks to some heavy smoker who donated his lungs.

The voice of reason.........
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Open your eyes guys!
The only reason they did the transplant is the experimental gain they had. They can practice and build out their surgery techniques, and afterwards do some research on does he miracolously cure or don´t he?
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they make test tube lungs.

for rich wealthy NWO folk.
Always fade out in a montage.. that way it looks like more time has pasted in a montage.
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Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant
You have to take anti-rejection drugs when you receive a transplant to prevent your body from rejecting the organ


One of the risks is ANY CANCEROUS cells start growing like wild fire (immune system is suppressed by the drugs) and if you do develop cancer there's really nothing that can be done about it.


So using lungs from someone who was a heavy smoker is taking one hell of a gamble...of course you also have to factor in that anyone needing a lung transplant will probably be dead in a year if they dont get it.
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This proves immunity is very important for suppressing cancer.


Load up on those immune boosting food!





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