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Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

 
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NEW ORLEANS A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."

Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.

Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."

If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.

"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.

Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.

Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.

Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.

"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."

Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.

"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."

"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. "The Supreme Court ruled as far back as 1963 that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."

The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."

"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.

According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.

Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.

The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.

"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."
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"... they use my bathroom ..."

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Sorry, but what you believe in does NOT get in the way of law. Fail.

There's so much fail today.
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THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH OUR COUNTRY PEOPLE.

OUR JUDGES ARE NOT MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON LAW BUT PERSONAL PREFERENCE INSTEAD.
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THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH OUR COUNTRY PEOPLE.

OUR JUDGES ARE NOT MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON LAW BUT PERSONAL PREFERENCE INSTEAD.
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THE PROBLEM IS THAT ADULTS KEEP ON ASKING THE STATE FOR PERMISSION TO DO THAT WHICH IS LAWFUL AND OF NO "BUSINESS" OF THE STATE.
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katrina water, yep.
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this is so fucking ridiculous... i thought we were living in the 21st century... apparently not......

shout out to all my black ladies:

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Didn't see your post when I posted mine, sorry...

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i'm gonna fuck and marry anyone as I do please!
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What a wanker this judge is how many sane race marriages fail. One if four marriages fail in the US dont they.
My gawd I cant believe someone that draconian can hold a place in public office.
To much power to the wrong person

My my havent they come a long way in the south


(and some of you yanks reckon my country is racist pleeeease)
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What a wanker this judge is how many sane race marriages fail. One if four marriages fail in the US dont they.
My gawd I cant believe someone that draconian can hold a place in public office.
To much power to the wrong person

My my havent they come a long way in the south


(and some of you yanks reckon my country is racist pleeeease)
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Say what, now?
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The old 'concern for the biracial children' schtick has been around a long long time. It is alive and well in the deep south. I hear it all the time. And much much worse.
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The old 'concern for the biracial children' schtick has been around a long long time. It is alive and well in the deep south. I hear it all the time. And much much worse.
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Miscegenation is fun for the parents.

Usually not, for the kids.

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The old 'concern for the biracial children' schtick has been around a long long time. It is alive and well in the deep south. I hear it all the time. And much much worse.
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I'm more concern about children with two daddies!
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This is NOT a judge but a justice of the peace, a sort of glorified law clerk. He will probably have his JP license revoked as well he should. This is NOT a matter of law but someone making a personal preference. The couple could easily go elsewhere like to a real judge and be married.
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i have a dream

a not-black woman for every black man

i have a dream

black women and children?

who gives a damn

give 'em to uncle sam

i have a dream
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justice of the peace
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Didn't see that. Today is truly a fail.
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i have a dream

a not-black woman for every black man

i have a dream

black women and children?

who gives a damn

give 'em to uncle sam

i have a dream
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793410


LBJ, MLK, Guns AND Butter!

The Great Society!

You know it makes sense!
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The old 'concern for the biracial children' schtick has been around a long long time. It is alive and well in the deep south. I hear it all the time. And much much worse.


I'm more concern about children with two daddies!
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Yup!!
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Amazing. People thinking they need government permission to marry (marriage license), then they act all surprised when the government doesn't give it to them. You people like having your rights turned into privileges, this is what you get.
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This is NOT a judge but a justice of the peace, a sort of glorified law clerk. He will probably have his JP license revoked as well he should. This is NOT a matter of law but someone making a personal preference. The couple could easily go elsewhere like to a real judge and be married.
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I was asking myself why anyone would choose to get married (let alone live) in Louisiana in the first place...
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Ministers can refuse to marry people also. The guy is a justice of the peace, not a judge. A judge cannot refuse, but ministers and justice of the peace can marry or not marry based on preference. I think, they knew of this guy and decided to make an example out of him to further the career ambitions. I think the guy is racist, but I don't think he broke the law.
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Louisiana operates under Napoleonic law and not common law like the rest of the United States.
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This is NOT a judge but a justice of the peace, a sort of glorified law clerk. He will probably have his JP license revoked as well he should. This is NOT a matter of law but someone making a personal preference. The couple could easily go elsewhere like to a real judge and be married.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I stand corrected.
The couple could go to another JP but they shouldnt have to.
This bigot should not hold the postion he does as he is putting his racist preferences before the rights of others therefore going against constittutional law
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The biracial offspring could suffer, like growing up to be president.
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"... they use my bathroom ..."

1rof1
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He forgot to add, they walk just like regular people and everything
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Does he hav some kind of chart. How would he now which racial grouping are not favorable and which are ok? I wonder how many of us married folk here would not be agreeable to this prefect representative of the human race.
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BI racial couples have married in louisana for decades ... who writes that chit anyway... op should know it. phony story for drama purposes ....
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this why the government has no business in marriage, it's another stupid contract we are taught to believe that we have to acquiesce into, calling that judge a justice of the peace is an joke.
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Well, if i get married again, it will be for the last time.
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BI racial couples have married in louisana for decades ... who writes that chit anyway... op should know it. phony story for drama purposes ....
 Quoting: anonymous 795050

yes bi racial families face extra social stress . the kids face extra social stress also.. Moms with Bi racial kids have a harder time finding decent step fathers who are willing to shoulder the extra social stresses and also extra expenses and responsibilities . many women are birthing kids even now, by thier one day future ex partners. wheather they want to admit it or not... these gals will have hard time paying the bills later as divorced moms or unwed moms..welfare support looms ahead in her future for many . 2 decades of huge expenses and work loads for her too... .. ..





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