Israel threatens to quit peace talks over UN war crimes vote

Give akron some credit, where credit is due. He must have put alot of time and energy into learning facts. So far I have not seen him/her utter one ounce of falsehood.

Give akron some credit, where credit is due. He must have put alot of time and energy into learning facts. So far I have not seen him/her utter one ounce of falsehood.

His SPEW is not fact but the classic anti-Israeli media lies.
He is hunting only one side of the story JUST LIKE EVERY BODY IS.
He isn't even concidering the Israeli side.

My assessment?
Akron from Belgium doesn't know his ass from fat meat.
Hes just a kid trying to be a big somebody cuz his girl friend (or should I say boy) dumped him and that person was Jewish.
Classic "I'll get even!" crap.

Smear campain.

Transcript of the above:


Thank you, Mr. President.

I am the former commander of the British forces in Afghanistan. I served with NATO and the United Nations; commanded troops in Northern Ireland, Bosnia and Macedonia; and participated in the Gulf War. I spent considerable time in Iraq since the 2003 invasion, and worked on international terrorism for the UK Government’s Joint Intelligence Committee.

Mr. President, based on my knowledge and experience, I can say this: During Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli Defence Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.

Israel did so while facing an enemy that deliberately positioned its military capability behind the human shield of the civilian population.


Hamas, like Hizballah, are expert at driving the media agenda. Both will always have people ready to give interviews condemning Israeli forces for war crimes. They are adept at staging and distorting incidents.

The IDF faces a challenge that we British do not have to face to the same extent. It is the automatic, Pavlovian presumption by many in the international media, and international human rights groups, that the IDF are in the wrong, that they are abusing human rights.

The truth is that the IDF took extraordinary measures to give Gaza civilians notice of targeted areas, dropping over 2 million leaflets, and making over 100,000 phone calls. Many missions that could have taken out Hamas military capability were aborted to prevent civilian casualties. During the conflict, the IDF allowed huge amounts of humanitarian aid into Gaza. To deliver aid virtually into your enemy's hands is, to the military tactician, normally quite unthinkable. But the IDF took on those risks.

Despite all of this, of course innocent civilians were killed. War is chaos and full of mistakes. There have been mistakes by the British, American and other forces in Afghanistan and in Iraq, many of which can be put down to human error. But mistakes are not war crimes.

More than anything, the civilian casualties were a consequence of Hamas’ way of fighting. Hamas deliberately tried to sacrifice their own civilians.

Mr. President, Israel had no choice apart from defending its people, to stop Hamas from attacking them with rockets.

And I say this again: the IDF did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare.

Thank you, Mr. President

Today's emergency UN Human Rights Council debate on the Goldstone Report predictably saw a line-up of the world's worst abusers condemn democratic Israel for human rights violations. In a heated lynch mob atmosphere, Kuwait slammed Israel for “intentional killing, intentional destruction of civilian objects, intentional scorched-earth policy,” saying Israel “embodied the Agatha Christie novel, 'Escaped with Murder'.” Pakistan said the “horrors of Israeli occupation continue to haunt the international community’s conscience.” The Arab League said, “We must condemn Israel and force Israel to accept international legitimacy." Ahmadinejad’s Iran said “the atrocities committed against Palestinians during the aggressions on Gaza should be taken seriously” and followed up by the international community “to put an end to absolute impunity and defiance of the law.”

What the world's assembled representatives did not expect, however, was the speech that followed (see video and text below), organized by UN Watch. We invited as our speaker a man who repeatedly put his life on the line to defend the democratic world from the murderous Saddam Hussein, Al Qaeda, and the Taleban. The moment he began his first sentence, the room simply fell silent. Judge Goldstone, author of the biased report that prompted today's one-sided condemnation, had refused to hear Col. Kemp's testimony during his "fact-finding" hearings. But UN Watch made sure today that this hero's voice would be heard -- at the U.N., and around the world.

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UN Human Rights Council, 12th Special Session
Debate on Goldstone Report
Geneva, 16 October 2009

[link to www.unwatch.org]

related article...


The Day Israel Died

States cannot die. They simply don't have life, they don't have souls. They are just organizations that in an ideal world would take care of administrative issues and would submit to the basic sovereignty of its citizens. Yet, in a sense, states reflect the life of its citizens, if the citizens die, the state ceases to exist.

Thus, humans are the basic entities of society. “We, The People” are the beautiful opening words of the American Constitution. The people formed the state and gave it its authorities, the sovereignty originated in them.

The People have the responsibility regarding the way that entity called state behaves. And those entities must respect human rights. If not, their citizens must do everything they can to cease the violations, even saying (and doing) "I leave this evil organization." I did that with regard to the state of Israel many years ago.

I recently reviewed the Goldstone report. it mentions that the recent Israeli attack on Gaza were unprecedented in their violence, to the extent it defines Israel as a terrorist entity in article 1690. But there is more to that.

At the moment the Israeli society – through the IDF – detained or even killed civilians while trying to surrender (Art. 1684), it displayed moral unfitness. Regardless its humanist education every single general and soldier proved being a moral moron, far from the Kingdom of God.

At the moment the Israeli society – through the IDF – destroyed food supply installations, water sanitation systems, concrete factories and residential houses (1688) it moved morally back to times when people sacrificed babies to wood idols. The firing of white phosphorus shells over the UNRWA compound in Gaza City (1716) and similar events are not different in essence from gas chambers.

At the moment the Israeli society – through the IDF – vandalized the houses with graffiti on the walls, obscenities and racist slogans (1689), the Krystalnacht was repeated by the IDF soldiers and officers, under the blessing of the Israeli government and society. Without that blessings, they would have faced justice immediately. Yet, this savage vandals are considered heroes by the Israeli society. The Beit Oranim Transcript – down-loadable through my website – proves that.

At the moment the Israeli society – through the IDF – used Palestinians as human shields (1689) it lost its human dignity. The brave Israeli soldiers should attach Palestinian babies to their foreheads; that may protect them as well.

At the moment the Israeli society – through the IDF – systematically terrorized a civilian population it became nothing else that a terrorist society (1690).

At the moment the Israeli society – through the Shin Beth and Mossad – terrorizes any critique, it lost its right to be qualified as a democratic society.

On December 27, 2008, when the Israeli society began its savage attack on Gaza, it committed suicide. Right now we are witnessing its slow but certain death. May God protect us from the beast’s last movements.
[link to www.roytov.com]

Akron:
this thread is a huge FAIL.
You come and bump a failed thread that failed to discuss absolutely anything, in which, you, also failed in trying to understand.
Times when people tried to explain you, not only you insulted and bashed them but whinned...tactics, tactics!!...

And I though you wanted to have a dialogue.

The only thing you wanted is a stage to spill hatred and gather anti-israeli loosers and create an Anti feeling around.

I will write a thread about GOLDSTONE REPORT after I'll be back in the evening and if you have what to say, come and do it.

But a copy-monkey-paste of articles wont be any good answer.

Try to use your brain cell and think alone.

Plus what is wrong with protesting the policies of a country? It's not anti semitic or anything. Everybody protests Iran but nobody calls it racism.

Akron:
this thread is a huge FAIL.
You come and bump a failed thread that failed to discuss absolutely anything, in which, you, also failed in trying to understand.
Times when people tried to explain you, not only you insulted and bashed them but whinned...tactics, tactics!!...

And I though you wanted to have a dialogue.

The only thing you wanted is a stage to spill hatred and gather anti-israeli loosers and create an Anti feeling around.

I will write a thread about GOLDSTONE REPORT after I'll be back in the evening and if you have what to say, come and do it.

But a copy-monkey-paste of articles wont be any good answer.

Try to use your brain cell and think alone.

This thread is a great lesson in truth. From know on, whenever a bunch of Mega Phonie Zionist shills invade a thread, then there must be merit to it. Truth is like salt on a snail to them!

I'm curious how many of the sources will be non-Israeli if any. Plus who cares you can't win so you make your own thread?? good luck with that plenty of JADR's on here who comply anyhow. It's the rest of the planet you have no hold on.

Label yourself, have soomething new to say or stay away from threads you have nothing to contribute to except misplaced self pitty.

I let journalists who research this stuff do the talking, maybe you should dot instead of trying to whip up some self ppitty thread. Seems the least biased way to go; Wright probnlem one sorry...

This thread is a great lesson in truth. From know on, whenever a bunch of Mega Phonie Zionist shills invade a thread, then there must be merit to it. Truth is like salt on a snail to them!

I'm curious how many of the sources will be non-Israeli if any. Plus who cares you can't win so you make your own thread?? good luck with that plenty of JADR's on here who comply anyhow. It's the rest of the planet you have no hold on.

Label yourself, have soomething new to say or stay away from threads you have nothing to contribute to except misplaced self pitty.

I let journalists who research this stuff do the talking, maybe you should dot instead of trying to whip up some self ppitty thread. Seems the least biased way to go; Wright probnlem one sorry...



getting worried or something?

do you want official answers? I am getting official sources always....or do you pretend I will use your biased sources?

What can be more official than an official source?

BTW, you didnt gave me any direct answer of replies I have made in this onesided full of hatred thread that you promoted.

You skipped all my replies.

Of course you will not make any comment there......you wont have what to say much without being glued to those condemning articles one ton weight that you used.

Stop calling pitty thread a thread that will come after yours, coz your failed in moderated BOTH sides.

Is what you wanted.

Hater.

This thread is a great lesson in truth. From know on, whenever a bunch of Mega Phonie Zionist shills invade a thread, then there must be merit to it. Truth is like salt on a snail to them!




and stop calling all those that doesnt agree with you, megaphonies or whatever.
it doesnt talk nicely about you.

Later hater.

Give akron some credit, where credit is due. He must have put alot of time and energy into learning facts. So far I have not seen him/her utter one ounce of falsehood.

His SPEW is not fact but the classic anti-Israeli media lies.
He is hunting only one side of the story JUST LIKE EVERY BODY IS.
He isn't even concidering the Israeli side.

My assessment?
Akron from Belgium doesn't know his ass from fat meat.
Hes just a kid trying to be a big somebody cuz his girl friend (or should I say boy) dumped him and that person was Jewish.
Classic "I'll get even!" crap.

Smear campain.