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5 Months to the 'RAPTURE' -- 28th of March 2010 by night.

 
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Rapture is Feast of the Trumpets - in the fall.

So this prediction of March is FAIL.
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The RAPTURE will happen and it will happen soon, but not by the dictates of anyone other than God Himself.

Do not believe in anyone who comes with "dates", rather be prepared and watchful and have Jesus Christ in your heart!

God Bless!!!
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We will all go through tribulation (christians and non-christians). The rapture is not going to happen until after the tribulation period. Read the bible do a little research it is not a mystery.

Please read: I did not write this but it is very easy to read and explains it very well. I encourage you to research further, read the bible and not just believe what comes from the pulpit. You would be surprised how many times the word of God is manipulated to meet the churches, political and financial needs. If you are attending a church that believes in this doctrine please challenge them to prove it. Jesus was always quetioning authority trust him and his word not the authourity.

There is no mention of the rapture anywhere in the book of Revelation. Author Hal Lindsey (Late Great Planet Earth) suggests that the rapture occurs when the angelic guide says “Come!” to John and whisks him through the heavenly door to witness “what must soon take place.” Lindsey backs up this theory by pointing out that the word “church” never again appears in the rest of Revelation—hence, the church must no longer be present. While this is certainly one theory, there are also many theological problems with this assertion.


The first one is simple common sense. Why would God remove his witnesses from the earth at a time when their testimony and witness is needed the most? Christian witness in the face of trial is how God spreads the Gospel of Christ to create faith in those who hear it.

Second, regarding Lindsey’s assertion that the church is not mentioned again, the “saints” are still quite prevalent. Additionally, churches are referred to as “lampstands” in the first chapter, and lampstands are referenced later on in Revelation in the form of “two witnesses” (Rev. 11) Given Revelation is a book that is filled with symbolic imagery, these two witnesses are no different. Two is the number necessary for a claim in court to be considered truthful (Deut. 19:15). Since the “church” is Christ’s witness here are on earth, it seems logical that the lampstands/witnesses are the people of God bearing witness to the power of Christ in the manner of the prophets of old.

Where Does This Idea of the Rapture Come From?

It’s pulled from two texts in the New Testament: Matthew 24:30, 36-44 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16. In Matthew 24:36-44, it speaks of two people working side-by-side, one is taken the other is not. This has been interpreted to mean that people will literally just vanish into thin air. However, when we think about what Jesus’ original hearers would have thought when he said this, this interpretation seems less likely. In Jesus’ day, people who were “taken” by the Romans were usually taken to be interrogated, imprisoned, judged, and/or executed (similar to Nazi Germany where people just “vanished” because they were taken by the Gestapo). Plus, the context of this passage is in reference to it being like the flood, where people were swept away, or taken, by the flood.[1] Thus, Jesus’ hearers would have seen the one left standing as the more preferable of the two.

Yet, even if the intent is that being taken is the more preferable, the point of the story is about the “coming of the son of man” does not suggest that the people will first disappear for seven years prior to that coming. As for 1 Thessalonians (similar to Matt. 24:30) which talks of the great trumpet blast, all the dead being raised, and those who are still living being caught up in the air with Christ, Paul makes no reference to there being people who are “left” to suffer a time of tribulation. This statement was made to a group of Christians who were beginning to worry that some were dying, and Christ had not yet returned. Paul was giving them edification that they should not worry, for the dead would actually precede them in joining Christ upon his return. In Revelation, the raising of the dead does not occur until after the “time of tribulation” that all the world will suffer (Rev. 20). Thus, the “rapture” is when Christ returns, raises the dead and puts an end to evil in our world.

Isn’t the Promise to the Church in Philadelphia Proof that the Church will be Raptured and Spared?
The problem with encompassing the entire breadth of God’s faithful people under the church of Philadelphia can be summed up in one word: Smyrna. The church at Smyrna was also a very faithful congregation that Christ held nothing against, yet, they are told they will still suffer at the hands of the ungodly. Throughout the church’s history, this has always been the case—some suffer persecution while others are spared. This is true today as well. Americans have the luxury of not facing death and suffering because of their faith. However, other churches throughout the world are not so lucky. Thus, rather than a rapture that takes a portion of God’s people, it seems more likely that when the tribulation that comes “upon the whole world,” there will still be groups that are protected from the worst of these trials, while others will face the brunt of it.

Revelation is, and always has been, a book that asks the question: who do you belong to? The beastly systems of this world that seek to oppress and distract from God, or to the lamb who was slain in order to set us free? In both John’s day and today, the distinction between the two is not always clear. We need scripture, like Revelation, to open our eyes to the differences so we can clearly discern who it is that we truly belong to.

[1] Barbara Rossing, The Rapture Exposed: The Message of Hope in the Book of Revelation, (New York: Basic Books, 2004), 178

For further reading:

Craig R. Koester, Revelation and the End of All Things, (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2001



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All I wanna know is are the fish heads finally gonna be gone or what?
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I'm not saying that God doesn't exist. I am a committed Christian. I'm saying you're wrong.
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And you base that assumption on a faith compiled by the Pagans of the Roman Empire. The same Romans that first murdered hundreds of thousands of your brothers and sisters that presumable were saved in the blood of Jesus had to shed more blood for their sins, then the Romans turn around hundreds of years later and decide to become your faith leaders by writing the New Testament, lol, how fawkin dumb are you idiots? That's like having the thieves who first robbed you install your home alarm system, lmao, you're all just too stupid!!!

But your stupidity will be instrumental in the Plan, remember, GOD works in mysterious ways!

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Rapture is Feast of the Trumpets - in the fall.

So this prediction of March is FAIL.
 Quoting: Emmeric

Its simple for dinosaur believers such as you to write a few simple words back-up with nothing.


Where is the Calender of GOD to support your thesis?

Where is the Timeline of the LORD that you are credible?


GO BACK TO BED...


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All I wanna know is are the fish heads finally gonna be gone or what?
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Nah, most fish-heads will remain, its difficult for them to exercise free-will and sever their cult chains to a pagan religion created to enslave them by PAGANS -- The Roman Empire!

GOD allows free-will, not Pagans!

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The RAPTURE will happen and it will happen soon, but not by the dictates of anyone other than God Himself.

Do not believe in anyone who comes with "dates", rather be prepared and watchful and have Jesus Christ in your heart!

God Bless!!!
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Ha,Ha, the Romans and their Pagan version of Jesus, ha,ha, who most believe is GOD, lol!!! If Moses would have taken Pagan advice the Chosen people would still be enslaved in Egypt. Its a good thing he didn't. Moses had the calender and the timeline of the LORD


BOOK OF ISAIAH
Chapter 51

[15] -- But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name.


Not Jesus, never Jesus!

Old Testament, never New!

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I'm not saying that God doesn't exist. I am a committed Christian. I'm saying you're wrong.

And you base that assumption on a faith compiled by the Pagans of the Roman Empire. The same Romans that first murdered hundreds of thousands of your brothers and sisters that presumable were saved in the blood of Jesus had to shed more blood for their sins, then the Romans turn around hundreds of years later and decide to become your faith leaders by writing the New Testament, lol, how fawkin dumb are you idiots? That's like having the thieves who first robbed you install your home alarm system, lmao, you're all just too stupid!!!

But your stupidity will be instrumental in the Plan, remember, GOD works in mysterious ways!

bump peace
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Believe whatever you want to believe, guy. Neither of us is going to convert the other. I'm done with this conversation.
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The rapture is not a biblical. Please stop spreading false doctrine. Do you remember the bible says no one will know the time of my return? You are doing a disservice to all normal Christians.
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That is correct, it is from the original Book, the first Book and the only Book of GOD

The Book of Enoch!

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The rapture is not a biblical. Please stop spreading false doctrine. Do you remember the bible says no one will know the time of my return? You are doing a disservice to all normal Christians.

Rev 3:3
Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
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You keep spewing this trash every post I see a rapture is mentioned?

There have been NUMEROUS threads where specific bible verses have been quoted for you that describe the RAPTURE, the "Catching Away" as described by Paul.

You are another worker of iniquity and work for your father Satan. Satan would like people to think that there is no RAPTURE since that would be so very convenient for him when he comes to deceive.

The RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL. You are a tard if you can't go on google or any of the numerious search engines out there and just type in RAPTURE of the Church and you'll have MILLIONS of matches and those millions of matches will have the same scriptures in the Bible highlighting exactly where the RAPTURE event is mentioned.
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This crap was supposed to have happened 2000 years ago, it didn't, it's over, end of story.
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Only I possess the calender of GOD and the timeline in this aeon, without these two no-one was able, is able, or could have done what I was born to do!

The Rapture was first written by the True Messiah in the Book of Enoch

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can I have all your stuff after you have left this mortal realm? dibs on your pick up truck and house
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can I have all your stuff after you have left this mortal realm? dibs on your pick up truck and house
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You can have it all, but you won't enjoy it much when the WRATH OF GOD lands on your head and the entire planet.

You have been warned. Seek the Lord, Jesus Christ and be saved today.
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Believe whatever you want to believe, guy. Neither of us is going to convert the other. I'm done with this conversation.
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I'm not here to convert anyone, GOD allows free-will, and therewith, so must I.

You are all going to be instrumental in the Plan.

You are the righteous who will receive the Sword to erect the Temple of the Great KING once you all witness that we (who have chosen) are gone to Paradise located here on Earth.

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The rapture is not a biblical. Please stop spreading false doctrine. Do you remember the bible says no one will know the time of my return? You are doing a disservice to all normal Christians.

Rev 3:3
Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.



You keep spewing this trash every post I see a rapture is mentioned?

There have been NUMEROUS threads where specific bible verses have been quoted for you that describe the RAPTURE, the "Catching Away" as described by Paul.

You are another worker of iniquity and work for your father Satan. Satan would like people to think that there is no RAPTURE since that would be so very convenient for him when he comes to deceive.

The RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL. You are a tard if you can't go on google or any of the numerious search engines out there and just type in RAPTURE of the Church and you'll have MILLIONS of matches and those millions of matches will have the same scriptures in the Bible highlighting exactly where the RAPTURE event is mentioned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


And for what it is worth, the Rapture will be Pre-Tribulation. The church will be removed and the age of grace ended. Then the world will return to living under the law, as they did in the days of the Old Testament which is why the Temple will be rebuilt.

And no man knows the date. Likely, God hasn't set one. He is waiting on the fulfillment of the Gentiles. You can bet it will be really soon though.
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What can I say amigos! Its been over 3 months since I first said: "I stumbled on the biggest thing ever, I found the location of where and when the Ark heading for Paradise Eden leaves. Everyone is welcomed, and I mean everyone."

Isn't it amazing how time actually does fly!

WOW!!! I am still amazed at this incredible event that will take place so very soon, and right on time while a perfect financial/pandemic storm is brewing those who choose to be chosen will escape into the PARADISE of EDEN.

See the angel in the clouds left of the dock? Just like the angel on the forum/scroll links.
[link to lh5.ggpht.com]

Forum link.
[link to eden.7forum.net]

Scroll link.
[link to bookofenoch.hopto.org]

Hope to see GLP there.

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And for what it is worth, the Rapture will be Pre-Tribulation. The church will be removed and the age of grace ended. Then the world will return to living under the law, as they did in the days of the Old Testament which is why the Temple will be rebuilt.

And no man knows the date. Likely, God hasn't set one. He is waiting on the fulfillment of the Gentiles. You can bet it will be really soon though.
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No. It won't.
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Rapture is Feast of the Trumpets - in the fall.

So this prediction of March is FAIL.

Its simple for dinosaur believers such as you to write a few simple words back-up with nothing.


Where is the Calender of GOD to support your thesis?

Where is the Timeline of the LORD that you are credible?


GO BACK TO BED...


flower flower
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God's major events are typified in the feasts. The only two feasts yet fulfilled are Tabernacles and Trumpets.

In Tabernacles, God dwells with us. That is the millennial event. In Trumpets, man works and prepares for 6 days. On the 7th day, the trumpets blow all day long in a holy day to the Lord. It isn't the last trump of judgment, it is the trump of God. Feas of the Trumpets occurs in the fall - God is always on time. That particular feast is peculiar because we can't know the exact day or hour of the Feast of Trumpets - there is a 48 hour window that must be witnessed and confirmed then declared by the high priest. Jesus was telling us specifically which feast typified the rapture.

If you cannot understand that symbolism, then go back to watching your neocon televangelist who doesn't know shit except what he reads out of the preacher's sermon guide.

Learn and defeat your ignorance. God is not stupid.
When blacks have identity it is called pride.
When indians have identity it is called culture.
When Jewish people have identity it is called history.
When WHITES have identity it is called Racism.
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Where is the Calender of GOD to support your thesis?

Where is the Timeline of the LORD that you are credible?

GO BACK TO BED...


God's major events are typified in the feasts. The only two feasts yet fulfilled are Tabernacles and Trumpets.

Jesus was telling us specifically which feast typified the rapture.
 Quoting: Emmeric

Jesus you say, Jesus who abolished your rant of feasts!


Ephesians
Chapter 2

13 -- But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have become near by the blood of Christ.

14 -- For he is our peace, he who made both one and broke down the dividing wall of enmity, through his flesh,

15 -- abolishing the law with its commandments and legal claims, that he might create in himself one new person in place of the two, thus establishing peace,


1rof1
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Still blowing the Pre TriB Lie Trumpet...

Sigh.. The Left Behind Videos are WRong mmK!!!!

Scofield was Wrong!!!!
Christians are going through Tribulation


6th Seal.
Rev 7:9 KJV - After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;


There is no Secret rapture
There is no Date that we know set

God will come as a Thief in the Night to the UNBELIEVERS!!!



we go through trib, then get raptured , wait half an hour , then God pours out hes wrath on the earth.


s1,s2,s3,s4,s5,s6(caught up, 144k sealed),s7,(half an hour Rev 8:1)
(wrath) t1v1,t2v2,t3v3,t4v4,t5v5,t6v6,t7v7.



Act 16:30 KJV - And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

Act 16:31 KJV - And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.



peace
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The rapture is not a biblical. Please stop spreading false doctrine. Do you remember the bible says no one will know the time of my return? You are doing a disservice to all normal Christians.

Rev 3:3
Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 794625


Agree--there is no rapture.
That is a con based on a misreading of ONE WORD in the Bible.
All the rapture believers out themselves for not having a clue what the bible says and are willing to follow any smooth talker that tickles their ear.

Go ahead and be 'raptured' but you have a better chance of being zapped into an alien ship to be eaten by hungry man eating aliens than you have of ending up in heaven.

But, by all means, go ahead.
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can I have yer car when you, um, go?
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Jesus you say, Jesus who abolished your rant of feasts!


Ephesians
Chapter 2

13 -- But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have become near by the blood of Christ.

14 -- For he is our peace, he who made both one and broke down the dividing wall of enmity, through his flesh,

15 -- abolishing the law with its commandments and legal claims, that he might create in himself one new person in place of the two, thus establishing peace,


1rof1
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Wow, quite a stretch there with no supporting context.

Your mommy must be proud.

ohappy
When blacks have identity it is called pride.
When indians have identity it is called culture.
When Jewish people have identity it is called history.
When WHITES have identity it is called Racism.
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Where is the Calender of GOD to support your thesis?

Where is the Timeline of the LORD that you are credible?

GO BACK TO BED...
 Quoting: THE OP

God's major events are typified in the feasts. The only two feasts yet fulfilled are Tabernacles and Trumpets.

Jesus was telling us specifically which feast typified the rapture.
 Quoting: Emmeric

Jesus you say, Jesus who abolished your rant of feasts!

Ephesians
Chapter 2

13 -- But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have become near by the blood of Christ.

14 -- For he is our peace, he who made both one and broke down the dividing wall of enmity, through his flesh,

15 -- abolishing the law with its commandments and legal claims, that he might create in himself one new person in place of the two, thus establishing peace,

1rof1
 Quoting: THE OP

Wow, quite a stretch there with no supporting context.Your mommy must be proud.
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Ha,Ha,Ha, you just called New Testament scriptures non-supportive, lmao, for once we agree!!!

Peace Be With You!

peace
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it is much much closer than you think.



What can I say amigos! Its been over 3 months since I first said: "I stumbled on the biggest thing ever, I found the location of where and when the Ark heading for Paradise Eden leaves. Everyone is welcomed, and I mean everyone."

Isn't it amazing how time actually does fly!

WOW!!! I am still amazed at this incredible event that will take place so very soon, and right on time while a perfect financial/pandemic storm is brewing those who choose to be chosen will escape into the PARADISE of EDEN.

See the angel in the clouds left of the dock? Just like the angel on the forum/scroll links.
[link to lh5.ggpht.com]

Forum link.
[link to eden.7forum.net]

Scroll link.
[link to bookofenoch.hopto.org]

Hope to see GLP there.

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