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About 1500 people have died over the week of October 25th, 2009 in Ukraine. As noted by some doctors, the reason - pneumonic plague. High temperatures from the first day, a burning sensation in the chest, the desire to drink cold and nausea - all of these symptoms are frightening. People die in a few days. Andrew Makrush, head physician of one from the Ternopil hospital believes that only in the Ternopil killed over 1,000 people. Andrew Makrush, head physician of one from the Ternopil hospital believes that only in the Ternopil killed over 1000 people.
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WTF this wiki link goes to a generic page about the Pneumonic plague- with ZERO refernce to the Ukraine.Or 1500 deaths. There is nothing credible in the media that I can find to support this info, where are you getting your data?

Post a credible source for your stats, or I call fear mongering.
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About 1500 people have died over the week of October 25th, 2009 in Ukraine. As noted by some doctors, the reason - pneumonic plague. High temperatures from the first day, a burning sensation in the chest, the desire to drink cold and nausea - all of these symptoms are frightening. People die in a few days. Andrew Makrush, head physician of one from the Ternopil hospital believes that only in the Ternopil killed over 1,000 people. Andrew Makrush, head physician of one from the Ternopil hospital believes that only in the Ternopil killed over 1000 people.
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WTF this wiki link goes to a generic page about the Pneumonic plague- with ZERO refernce to the Ukraine.Or 1500 deaths. There is nothing credible in the media that I can find to support this info, where are you getting your data?

Post a credible source for your stats, or I call fear mongering.
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The Ukraine part was edited out:

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Can get sources by going to Google and typing in Kiev news or Kiev newspapers....or something similar to this.
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"THEY" have made near criminals out of smokers. When "THEY" made it "illeagal" to smoke at least 25 feet from ANY public doorway I knew sopmething was fishy. It has taken me years to connect the dots, but now I have.

Do you relly think "THEY" as in our Government officials, REALLY CARE about our health.

Hell no, or "THEY" would not be the ones ordering the chemtrail spraying nation and worlwide. Here is a clip on smoking and the FLU.

NATURAL NICOTINE
By Lisa Melton

Scientific American; Jun2006, Vol. 294 Issue 6, p24-24,
Also found on PUB MED

This takes some common sense when reading. First of all, once a cytokine storm hits, the patient is usually in the hospital. From what I have read the nicotine is needed to help prevent the storm from occurring.

I submit this simply for your consideration.

HOW NICOTINE STOPS INFLAMMATION COULD LEAD TO NEW DRUGS.
In the past few years researchers have found that the substance can alleviate symptoms of ailments such as Alzheimer's disease and ulcerative colitis. Just how nicotine battles these foes, however, has
remained unclear. Now, by studying sepsis, Luis Ulloa of North Shore University Hospital in Manhasset, N.Y., has evidence elucidating nicotine's biochemical pathways that could lead to more potent anti-inflammatory drugs.

Sepsis, the most lethal of inflammatory conditions, is a bacterial invasion of the bloodstream. The third leading cause of death in the developed world, it accounts for nearly 10 percent of overall deaths in the U.S. every year. Infection causes part of the damage, but what makes
patients critically ill is their own fiercely aggressive immune response. Macrophages churn out huge quantities of proinflammatory cytokines. This exaggerated immune response leads to tissue damage, and eventually the patient dies of cardiovascular dysfunction and multiorgan
failure.

Ulloa and his collaborators have found something remarkable: nicotine can shut down this overshooting inflammatory response, to the point of
reversing sepsis in mice. As far as anti-inflammatory treatments go, this is powerful stuff. "Nicotine taps into the body's own potent anti-inflammatory mechanisms," Ulloa explained in February at a Novartis Foundation meeting in London. "That is the beauty of our approach. By
using nicotine, we are copying physiological mechanisms that have been selected by evolution to modulate the immune system."

Specifically, nicotine mimics acetylcholine, the Cinderella of neurotransmitters. Largely ignored over the years, acetylcholine has been catapulted into a starring role, linking the nervous and the immune systems. Through acetylcholine the nervous system controls the inflammatory fires that constantly crop up in our bodies. Receptors for acetylcholine reside not only on nerve cell endings but also on immune cells. Nicotine binds and activates these receptors, allowing cross talk between the brain and immune system.

Now Ulloa's group may have provided an explanation for the positive effects that nicotine has on illnesses as diverse as schizophrenia, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, Tourette's syndrome and ulcerative colitis. In laboratory experiments, Ulloa demonstrated that nicotine
latches onto the nicotinic receptors on macrophages and stops them from spewing out inflammatory cytokines. This clampdown is brutally effective. The researchers also identified the specific receptor subtype, the alpha-7 acetylcholine receptor, that nicotine binds in
macrophages to stop cytokine production. As a potent anti-inflammatory, nicotine can damp down a dangerous immune
response.

Nicotine, Anti-inflammatory H1N1 Cure
Vagus Nerve Stimulation Blocks Cytokine Storm of Swine Flu
© Art Ayers
May 4, 2009

[BUY AMERICAN SPIRIT . . . .NO CHEMICALS]

Nicotine has an anti-inflammatory effect via the vagus nerve, which is useful against many diseases, and perhaps may block the cytokine storm of the H1N1 swine flu.

Nicotine stimulates the cholinergic anti-inflammatory pathway. At the end of this pathway are immune cells that produce anti-inflammatory cytokines that block inflammation. Thus, nicotine, although one of the most addictive chemicals, can have beneficial effects on inflammatory diseases, such as arthritis, asthma, cancer, inflammatory bowel diseases and perhaps, H1N1.
Tobacco Smoke Is Toxic but also Anti-Inflammatory
Paradoxically tobacco smoke contains hundreds of toxic and carcinogenic chemicals that produce inflammatory reactions
and numerous degenerative diseases, but it also contains nicotine that is anti-inflammatory.

[BUY AMERICAN SPIRIT . . . .NO CHEMICALS]

The anti-inflammatory benefits of nicotine reveal the inflammatory basis of many unexpected diseases. Nicotine withdrawal is severe, partly because it leads to rebound release of inflammatory cytokines, inflammation and inflammatory disease symptoms that include depression and obesity. Smoking cessation may contribute to more severe symptoms of H1N1 infections. One must wait until they are over all flu symptoms. READ THAT AGAIN.

Nicotine Acts via the Vagus Nerve.
Attempts to augment bypass surgery for weight reduction have encountered the anti-inflammatory benefits of stimulating the vagus nerve. Vagus nerve stimulation via an electrode attached to the left branch in the neck by a device implanted behind the clavicle, reduces inflammatory cytokine production and is an effective treatment for obesity. Other types of vagus stimulation are being tested for efficacy in treatment of numerous inflammatory diseases, including arthritis, allergy, asthma, Alzheimer’s, etc.

Nicotine Blocks Cytokine Storms

Cytokine storms are a deadly consequence of inflammation that is out of control. These exaggerated host responses are targets for bioterrorism, because it takes very little toxin or a very minimal infection to be lethal, if it produces a cytokine storm. In mice, the ricin toxin, a bioterrorism agent, induces a cytokine storm that kills by multiple organ failure. Ricin-treated mice can be protected by nicotine prior or after the cytokine storm begins.
I have read two accounts of flu sufferers who have smoked a cigar or chemical free cigarette [such as American Spirit] a few times during their illness who actually had their deep cough and mucus lessen. One of them was told to do so by their Doctor, in 2007.

[BUY AMERICAN SPIRIT . . . .NO CHEMICALS]

Non Nicotine medicinal herbs for the lungs [used by our American ancestors]

Mullein, Verbascum thapsus

Mullein is a fine medicinal for the lungs, even when you smoke it. It soothes inflamed or infected lungs, and prevents coughing until infection or inflammation is broken. Then it aids in expectoration, helping to break up congestion and promote "effective" coughing. It was smoked to stop the coughing of tuberculosis years ago. It is wonderful for any kind of lung cleansing. Very gentle and non-toxic. HOWEVER, do NOT use any tobacco or herbal tobacco IF you are having hard time breathing. That is the time to see the Doctor.

It also has almost no flavor and is a very light smoke. I have never seen anyone become addicted to smoking Mullein, as after a while it is very unsatisfying. The average smoker would feel as if they're smoking air. Crispy dried crushed Mullein is a lousy smoke. Be sure to keep it ever so slightly moist. Dried Mullein should be rubbed for the best results. It will become very fluffy and puffy. This fuzzy rubbed Mullein will burn evenly when smoked in a paper or pipe. It will hold other herbs that are in the form of small pieces and powder, and keep them evenly distributed. And it has no flavor!
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