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>WHO Targets Hemorrhagic H1N1 Cases in Lviv Ukraine<

 
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WHO Targets Hemorrhagic H1N1 Cases in Lviv Ukraine
Recombinomics Commentary 19:54
November 3, 2009
Work will initially begin in Lviv region, where reported numbers of cases showing severe manifestations of acute respiratory illness have been especially high. Two virologists on the team have started working at the National Influenza Centre and the laboratories of the Central Sanitary and Epidemiological Station in Kyiv to provide diagnostic support.

The above comments from the WHO update on Ukraine strike a more serious tone than yesterday's quotes from WHO spokespersons playing down the alarming number of hospitalized and fatal cases, as well as media reports spinning political considerations, or politicians claiming only 15 confirmed H1N1 cases. As the WHO update clearly states, the dominant influenza circulating worldwide is swine H1N1 and it is assumed that most cases in the Ukraine (see map) are swine H1N1. Since the official government website lists 19,189 influenza cases (in addition to more than 235,000 ARI cases), the willingness of politicians to cite 15 confirmed cases, as well as media support in the distribution of the propaganda, is unfortunate.

The more severe manifestation of ARI cases are clearly hemorrhagic disease that fills lungs with blood and produces bleeding at all orifices, which are stark reminders of 1918 pandemic cases which were also linked to a swine H1N1.

Samples have arrived at Mill Hill in London, and sequence data should be available shortly. Since current swine H1N1 produced lethal infections in previously healthy young adults, and produced hemorrhagic disease, changes in the viral genome may be absent or minor. Therefore, release of the sequences to the entire scientific community would be useful.

Similarly, an update on the number of hemorrhagic cases would be useful. Rumors have suggested that such the number of such cases is significantly higher than the six described in media reports

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Ukraine Hemorrhagic Pneumonia Deaths

By Henry L Niman, PhD
11-4-9

Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast

All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemorrhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 - 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.

The above comments are from an early story describing cases in Ukraine. The clustering of hemorrhagic cases raised concerns. The concern was increased by anecdotal reports citing a high frequency of such cases in Lviv. The recent WHO announcement that they were initially focusing of severe acute respiratory illness in Lviv also increased concerns.

Hemorrhagic pneumonia was also observed in the 1918 pandemic and was thought to be linked to cytokine storm. Consequently, those with robust immune systems (previously health young adults) disproportionately died, which has also been seen in the current outbreak. However, the cases in Ukraine appear to be clustered, raising concerns that the virus has changed.

However, the change may be minor, since the current H1N1 has produced the above symptoms in current cases. More severe cases may be linked to a higher viral load, which could be linked to minor genetic changes, or simply due to concentration of virus in schools. In the US the spread of the virus has been linked to school openings, which lead to an explosion of cases and subsequent student deaths. However, now there are increases in fatalities in teachers and administrators, increasing concerns worldwide.

In Ukraine, weather changes and heating issues may have led to a surge in cases, and increased concentrations of virus could have produced conditions favoring high viral loads and increased cytokine storms.

Samples have been sent to Mill Hill, and sequence data should be released shortly. Similarly, investigations on hemorrhagic pneumonia in lviv should help resolve the mechanism for the high concentration of such cases in western Ukraine.

However, H1N1 spread in Kiev has been noted, and other countries such as Belarus have announced additional H1N1 suspect or confirmed fatalities. Sequence analysis of these cases and an update on the frequency of hemorrhagic pneumonia in Ukraine and worldwide would be useful



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This is really getting me scared!WTF?
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"Bleeding from orifices" sounds bad to me.
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hmm. ok but i don't believe those pics. they look like
modeling pics for a face mask catalog, lol.
The Divine (aliens) behind the clouds are just spies who are magical and about to die... thats it. They wont come down, there is no Jesus, and if you joined a cult... you die. Yawn!
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Well, wome are beautiful in Ukraine
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I've been following this closely since the 28th and have seen lots of reports of symptoms consistent with pneumonic plague, and similar in some ways to H5N1, SARS or pulmonary anthrax. But I have not seen any references (except this thread) that indicate bleeding anywhere but in the lungs.

I realize there is a lot of speculation out there about the possibility of the spanish flu having been brought back, but do not see evidence for this in the symptoms. It looks more like avian flu (H5N1) that is possibily being introduced by the mock-up vaccines for H1N1.
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it's not H1N1, it's pneomonic plague...

the WHO can't even tie their shoes..


outdated vaccines for everyone!!!

for a strain that never existed.

mercury for all!
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It is recombinomics how talks about bleeding orifices,
stop typing shit sunspotz
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Whatever is going on there looks troubeling
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it's not H1N1, it's pneomonic plague...

the WHO can't even tie their shoes..


outdated vaccines for everyone!!!

for a strain that never existed.

mercury for all!
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More people in my area of texas is getting sicker from some virus going around attacking the lungs than anything else and its not any flu,it hits fast and hard like within 24 hrs your down!in the hospital.
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It last 12 to 20 weeks





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