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PNEUMONIC PLAGUE CONFIRMED IN UKRAINE!!!!! | |
| moke Offer Upgrade  User ID: 802082  United States11/04/2009 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 797310 United States11/04/2009 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHO CARES ABOUT THE DATE IT ONLY 2 DAYS OLD EVEN STRANGER THAT WE DIDNT HERE ABOUT THIS ON MSM Quoting: mokeDude, it's a translation issue. It means lung sickness. This has been talked to death both in this and other forums. Death rate isn't anywhere near what it would need to be for pneumonic plague. The current death rate is somewhere around 1%, while pneumonic plague is around 100%.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 810500 United States11/04/2009 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God help us all OK, People. I am serious about this. As soon as the first cases appear in the US and people start dying, DO NOT WAIT, get as much food and water as you can buy and go home with your family. Stay there, do not answer your door. If you want to live, please take this advice. |
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| Full Circle User ID: 809462 Canada11/04/2009 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I'm not sure, I read in another thread the source is not reliable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809558NOTHING you read is reliable. Trust your gut. What does your gut tell you? Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
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| moke (OP) User ID: 802082 United States11/04/2009 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | something about whats going on is just a bit to hushed for me to believe that there isnt something very serious goin on in the Ukraine. this is a big deal and we should keep our eyes on this and be prepared to react should something like this come our way. |
| Full Circle User ID: 809462 Canada11/04/2009 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT IS NOT PNEUMONIC PLAGUE!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 797310It may be a variant of H1N1 that's more virulent, it may be bad cases of H1N1, but IT'S NOT PNEUMONIC PLAGUE!  Have you bothered to check the INITIAL reports on this outbreak? Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said. [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
| Full Circle User ID: 809462 Canada11/04/2009 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I'm not sure, I read in another thread the source is not reliable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809953NOTHING you read is reliable. Trust your gut. What does your gut tell you? illiteracy? lol...good one. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 797310 United States11/04/2009 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT IS NOT PNEUMONIC PLAGUE!!! Quoting: Full CircleIt may be a variant of H1N1 that's more virulent, it may be bad cases of H1N1, but IT'S NOT PNEUMONIC PLAGUE! Have you bothered to check the INITIAL reports on this outbreak? Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said. [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Hemmorhagic pneumonia occurred in the 1918 pandemic, too. I'm not saying they don't have something bad going down in Ukraine, but it's not pneumonic (variant of bubonic) plague. "The victims of the 1918 Spanish flu suffered greatly. Within hours of feeling the first symptoms of extreme fatigue, fever, and headache, victims would start turning blue. Sometimes the blue color became so pronounced that it was difficult to determine a patient's original skin color. The patients would cough with such force that some even tore their abdominal muscles. Foamy blood exited from their mouths and noses. A few bled from their ears. Some vomited; others became incontinent." [link to history1900s.about.com] |
| Full Circle User ID: 809462 Canada11/04/2009 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I'm not sure, I read in another thread the source is not reliable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809558NOTHING you read is reliable. Trust your gut. What does your gut tell you? My gut says it's not pneumonic plague. Then don't worry. And forget about it. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 647273 Canada11/04/2009 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I'm not sure, I read in another thread the source is not reliable. Quoting: Full CircleNOTHING you read is reliable. Trust your gut. What does your gut tell you? My gut says it's not pneumonic plague. Then don't worry. And forget about it. it IS pneumonic plague. all the pieces fit. good find op! p.s. I love how people don't trust news that comes from a russian or ukranian news website but if CNN reported on it...then it would be true. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 810500 United States11/04/2009 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MORE NEWS COMING OUT NOW [link to www.swineflu.org] Authorities officially called the disease "swine flu", "California flu", "SARS","pneumonia", but doctors say on the basis of clinical data and the rapidity of the epidemic, that it is pneumonic plague. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 591484 United States11/04/2009 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Issue No. 2 November, 2001 BIOTERRORISM: BEYOND ANTHRAX AND SMALLPOX PLAGUE (BUBONIC PLAGUE, PNEUMONIC PLAGUE) Pneumonic plague, somewhat like inhalation anthrax, requires early and aggressive treatment to avert a fatal outcome. Furthermore, unlike bubonic or even septicemic plague patients, pneumonic plague is readily catagious (Ratsitorahina et al., 2000). If used in the future as a bioweapon, the plague will not be spread by large numbers of infected fleas. Rather, the spread would be most probably achieved by inhalation of an aerosol form of Y. pestis microorganisms, which would result immediately in a large number of people getting the pneumonic form of the plague. Furthermore, this would greatly accelerate the transmission of the disease among susceptible populations of people, in contrast to the amount of transmission that would occur if the plague infection presented in the bubonic form. A vaccine is no longer available for the plague. Furthermore, the vaccine that had been developed only showed benefit against the bubonic form of plague. It did not appear to prevent or lessen the consequences of the pneumonic form of plague (Speck and Wolochow, 1957). Now my question is; What is in the H1N! vaccine that is being pushed on us that will make the effects of the pneumonic plague more deadly??? There is always a second shoe folks... they never toss just one without another waiting to drop. |
| Full Circle User ID: 809462 Canada11/04/2009 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT IS NOT PNEUMONIC PLAGUE!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 797310It may be a variant of H1N1 that's more virulent, it may be bad cases of H1N1, but IT'S NOT PNEUMONIC PLAGUE! Have you bothered to check the INITIAL reports on this outbreak? Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said. [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Hemmorhagic pneumonia occurred in the 1918 pandemic, too. I'm not saying they don't have something bad going down in Ukraine, but it's not pneumonic (variant of bubonic) plague. "The victims of the 1918 Spanish flu suffered greatly. Within hours of feeling the first symptoms of extreme fatigue, fever, and headache, victims would start turning blue. Sometimes the blue color became so pronounced that it was difficult to determine a patient's original skin color. The patients would cough with such force that some even tore their abdominal muscles. Foamy blood exited from their mouths and noses. A few bled from their ears. Some vomited; others became incontinent." [link to history1900s.about.com] Aren't our microbiologists wonderful these days? Technology has come a long way. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 810500 United States11/04/2009 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to unofficial data, "in Ukraine over the past week about 1500 people have already died. As noted by some doctors, the reason - pneumonic plague. High temperatures from the first day, a burning sensation in the chest, the desire to drink cold and nausea - all of these symptoms are frightening. People die within few days. |
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