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PNEUMONIC PLAGUE CONFIRMED IN UKRAINE!!!!!

 
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Screw it, I think I will start out for hemmingford home early!


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[link to www.prisonplanet.com]

Is politics behind the scaremongering or is something more sinister taking place?

Steve Watson
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Monday, Nov 2, 2009

Anyone closely following the news on swine flu will have noticed that there are conflicting stories of an advanced pandemic outbreak in Ukraine.

While the mainstream media is reporting that it is a surge in H1N1 influenza, alternative media sources are reporting that it is a new unidentified virus, while other reports cite witnesses in Ukraine who say there is no evidence of a pandemic at all.

Last week, according to mainstream reports, such as this one by AFP, Ukraine confirmed its first swine flu deaths, prompting Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko (pictured) to implement a lockdown, including a ban on public gatherings, restrictions of movement between regions, imposed quarantines in nine provinces and the closing of schools, churches and cinemas.

President Viktor Yushchenko has reportedly asked the United States, the European Union, NATO and Ukraine’s neighbours for drugs and equipment to fight the spread of the virus, according to a statement released by his office.

Other reports have stated that Yushchenko has asked the Defense Ministry to prepare mobile military hospitals to deal with the outbreak, prompting fears that Yushchenko will soon effectively place Ukraine under martial law.


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the Ukrainian press as "unknown virus" said agent Sunday night a total of 64 casualties in Ukraine.
Although the public health authorities have still not been determined exactly which strain of the influenza virus is the cause of massive pulmonary diseases, much stated that certainly is not the dreaded H1N1 is about.
The serious, very fast course in 64 patients who died of bilateral pneumonia, at least two children and a woman is pregnant.
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i posted this hours ago!!! why didnt i get a fucken pin?????














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i posted this hours ago!!! why didnt i get a fucken pin?????














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this exact thread...this exact title. this exact news story, this exact link!!!!!!











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i posted this hours ago!!! why didnt i get a fucken pin?????














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because... so there wanker lips
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while I have no clue what is going on in the Ukraine, I do know that from at least 4 days ago, I was reading scattered bits of info, not pinned, on glp about the outbreak in the Ukraine...

there were, early on reports of people having the symptoms of pneumonic plaque, now remember this was coming in on glp in bits and pieces but it was coming in...and a few voices from that part of the world did chime in with info...


it was scattered and vague at best but...I would not totally dismiss the idea just yet..nor would I embrace it, just follow along and read...

there is most likely more here than meets the eye...

they certainly quarantined 9 states or regions of the Ukraine immediately..seems a bit severe for flu.....
Live and let live.......really
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because... so there wanker lips
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beause you fuck your mother, you gutless coward...






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Partial Fraza translation (more to come).

Wondering why USA media is silent?

"Attack of horror"? Wow.

VERY interesting:

" A pork flu " - a sight because of ocean or About what America is silent
04.11.09 07:01
Victor Orel, the USA, for "Phrase"
Whatever one may do, and the native land of a so-called pork flu is on other continent. And before " unknown and fatal " a virus America has already gone through the first attack of horror. To your attention - a sight "therefrom", clause of the American journalist about " a pork flu " as global provocation and a global cheating.
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Someone should go ask that Joseph Moshe Bar guy about this.
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Bioweapon of Choice for terrorism: The Plague bacterium (Yersinia pestis)

Currently appears to be 2 possible Bio-Weapons coming down the pipeline....one viral (Lab made Flu) and the other bacterial (Also probably made in the lab)

Bacterial terrorism can involve the water supply and/or spraying by plane.

Putin makes deal with NWO elite to be with them.

Putin is given rewards, including perhaps the return of the Ukraine to Russia.

Create chaos

Take out revenge on the population for the Orange Revolution, breaking away from Russian, etc.

January presidential elections

Assure pro-Russia victory (the East is pro-Russian, the West where the outbreak started is pro-West)

Russian come in with the real anti-dotes.....which would be Streptomycin, Gentamicin, Tetracyclines, and Chloramphenicol. Order out of chaos. Russian hero troops in Ukraine.

Tamiflu and anti-virals will not work against The Plague.

Ukraine handed to Putin on a platter.

Infection with a bacteria usually involves a much higher fever and more rapid onset/progression.

Prevent Cytokine Storm with the D3 Hormone....the Sunshine Vitamin/Hormone... made on your skin. D3 also promotes production of antimicrobial peptides.....which blast apart the cell walls of foreign invaders.....whether viral or bacterial.

Cytokine Storm is what kills you.....whether initiated by a virus or bacteriuam.

Not too much sickness in the Summer....think about it.
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it`s like the swine flu.....

it was just a couple of bad flu cases....

which the elite used to create hype....

and now they are taking to a higher level....

with an actual martial law scenario in a commie state....

commie states are easier to handle....

cause they lived under martial law for a long time....

they are bringing that ol feeling back....

on the streets.....
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Someone should go ask that Joseph Moshe Bar guy about this.
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David Dees currently has an illustration up on Rense's home page. The graphic is excellent. Here's the quote from the graphic:

Three months ago, Joseph Moshe, Israeli Microbiologist, called into an LA talk show to warm people Baxter Intl's Ukraine lab was, in fact, producing a bioweapon disguised as a flu vaccine. He was quickly chased, gassed, tasered and taken away by LAPD SWAT teams.

This week, a sudden outbreak of deadly extremely contagious H1N1 appeared ... in Ukraine.

[link to www.rense.com]
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how reliable is this site???
it has a bunch of terrorists pictures on the top
It looks like FBI top 10 most wanted
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Look at the top of the page

umara of caucasian mujahideen

Umara means Commander

Its a jihadi site and the men listed are its leaders

(www.kavkazcenter.com) is a Chechen internet agency which is independent, international and Islamic.
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More translated from Fraza News site in Ukraine - comments from which this thread is based.

An interesting discussion!

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The dead man or the convict?

In August, 2009 the political management of state of Massachusetts has passed the law on obligatory vaccination from pork flu H1N1. In default to pass vaccination ослушник&#108​0; will undergo to the daily penalty at a rate of 1000 dollars, and also – to prison punishment for the term of 30 days.

- Now there is no necessity to pass vaccination, - the Senator of staff Richard Mor "has calmed" the indignant public in television interview. – However we wish to be assured, that in case of occurrence of total epidemic, the population of staff бесприко&#108​9;ловно will obey to the order of the Governor and the Public health department.

The law accepted by Boston legislative "top" - direct and rough infringement of the American Constitution. It has caused mass indignation of the American public.

The fourth amendment to the Constitution says: the right of citizens to inviolability: personal, in the houses, documentary and in the displays against illegal arrest and a search it will not be broken...

The eighth amendment guarantees illegality of penalties and punishments if the citizen has not committed a crime. Each American knows, that the law published in infringement of the Constitution and its amendments, is illegal.

- There will come cold day in a hell if I shall allow to stick to myself this свинную an infection,-speaks 50-years Марти.

- It is time to take in hands the weapon, differently under a pretext of vaccination us перетрав&#110​3;т as the cattle, - is indignant the young woman who has named Ирэной.

- Fellow citizens, wake up! It is time to battle for freedom! This trick анти-конс&#10​90;итуционн&#​1072; and at you is all the rights and means to calm these mongrels, - writes in comments "anti-swinish" блога Лиза – the wife of the American military man from Germany.

Less, than for полмесяц&#107​2; to this clause 172 comments have been given.

Americans not only are revolted, but also frightened by " the swinish law » state of Massachusetts. The matter is that the information on plot against mankind бильдерб&#107​7;ргской groups or as it name « committee 300 », « committee three hundred »

« Committee three hundred » already for a long time has filtered as into the American society, and worldwide. One of the basic items of plot is violent reduction of the population of the Earth from 5.6 billion person up to one billion. And the best way – vaccination by bacteriological poison. That to the reader it was more clear, in what an essence of a problem, we shall return to the beginning of year.

Pigs have occured from birds

In second half of February, 2009 the Austrian company – the distributor of medicines «Орта» has sent to Czechia, Slovenia and Germany a party противог&#108​8;иппозной a vaccine made by American international pharmaceutical company " Бакстер ".

The laboratorian of Czech pharmaceutical company " Biotest ", near Prague, has tested the received American vaccine on laboratory хорьках. Soon, after reception of a vaccinal injection, all animals сдохли. At more careful analysis of a vaccine it was found out, that it comprises alive, active bird's virus H5N1 and human - H3N2. More detailed researches Canadian Chemical laboratory have shown, that component H5N1 is one of the most dangerous biological agents on the Earth, зарегест&#108​8;ированны&#1​081;, as the potential bacteriological weapon. A parameter of death rate at its application in public – 60 %. The mix of two above-named components in противог&#108​8;иппозной to a vaccine does it « a medicine for a life » fatal. And consequences of demand are obvious: the dying mankind will have no time to think of crisis or to be indignant with dishonourableness of the American bankers.

On inquiry of the Canadian journalists the company « Baxter Pharmaseutical International, Inc. » which main office is in the city of Dirfild, state of Illinois, denied the fact of the participle to incident and has refused to make comments in occasion of happened. But, under pressure of the European countries – participants of the international investigation and the World Organization on Public health services in the Great Britain, it has been compelled to recognize, that vaccine H5N1была is developed in its laboratories and transferred to company " АВИР " for sending to Austria.

The representative of company " Бакстер " on public relations, however, has declared, that infection of a vaccine with virus H5N1 in its laboratories could be only a random error, but not deliberate action. Such explanation has not caused trust in one of восемьна&#107​6;цати the countries which have received противог&#108​8;иппозную a vaccine. Under the application of the Danish medical expert from Copenhagen Roberty Andragetti, accident in mixing bioagents H5N1 and H3N2 in laboratories " Бакстер " is excluded, as work above the bird's virus was conducted at the third level of biological safety, Biosafety level-3 (BSL-3). Application Андрагет&#109​0;и has proved to be true the similar application of the representative «Бакстер». Experiments of the third level are spent in the laboratories isolated from other premises, access in which is strictly limited, and work is spent under the multistage control of managers, scientists and protection.

The majority of the Canadian and European mass-media were unanimously asked by the same question: whether « there Was it simply a criminal negligence? » On a surface the similar facts of the last years which are taken place, both in the USA, and behind their limits have emerged. In 2002 the vaccine of a smallpox dissipated by planes of military-air forces of the USA from two-kilometer height above the city of Sant-Luis, state of Missouri, and also on group of the ships of the Navy of the USA during doctrines. It was done скрытно, without the notification of citizens in the first case and military seamen – in the second. The same year some biological research centers for compensation suggested the population of America to take part in experiments with a vaccine of a smallpox. Экпериме&#108​5;ты have ended with several tens deaths. All aforesaid has caused a greater sensation in the American mass-media.

This time America persistently was silent about an event. The information on "mistake" of company " Бакстер " was not printed in one American newspaper. Any American television company, even for a moment, has not mentioned about happened. And the Federal Government of the USA which three more weeks ago, on standard procedure, should close «Бакстер» up to the end of investigation, has pretent, that nothing has occured.

Let's recollect the facts of reception of letters with a powder of the Siberian ulcer separate citizens of the USA. Then the American mass-media chewed two separate facts of more year in spite of the fact that any fact of presence of the Siberian ulcer in letters has not proved to be true. In case of ощибки (?) «Бакстера» it was a question of potential threat to the population 18-ти (!) the European countries. Such inertness of the American authorities, only has strengthened an idea of the West-European public on possible diversion.

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Excuse the Ukrainian characters that did not post well.
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Report from India........

Don't know what caused the deaths'
By: Alifiya Khan Date: 2009-11-05 Place: Pune


Doctors at Sassoon hospital anxiously await report on 35 patients who died of infection that caused symptoms similar to swine flu

Doctors at Sassoon Hospital, who are in the thick of the swine flu battle, are a worried lot. Thirty-five patients with swine flu-like symptoms died in the last 45 days at the hospital, and not one of them tested positive for swine flu. The doctors still don't know what caused the death of these patients.



[link to www.mid-day.com]
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Funny the idea of death from "natural" causes scares so many in the world.

Funnier if it's man-u-factured(The act, process, or manner of making anything; construction.)

... Man cannot control it's own decisions -- evil is too tempting.

"Those not busy being born, are busy dyng."
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Here's an interesting take,
[link to israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com]
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i posted this hours ago!!! why didnt i get a fucken pin?????


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We don't pin morans until we check and recheck the doom !!
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Here's an interesting take,
[link to israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com]
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1/9 Native American here, and know plenty of fellow non-pasties. It hits random -- not certain peeps of local heritage [the full flu occuring in nature that is -- of course.] = )
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It's here
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The Trigger.

Grey Goose is go.
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'N' I had it -- unfortunately it sucked for me from a non-sucker standpoint.

Most I've known (who had) felt little-to-nothing from it.
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Here's some interesting information:


After World War II, both the United States and the Soviet Union developed means of weaponising pneumonic plague. Experiments included various delivery methods, vacuum drying, sizing the bacterium, developing strains resistant to antibiotics, combining the bacterium with other diseases (such as diphtheria), and genetic engineering. Scientists who worked in USSR bio-weapons programs have stated that the Soviet effort was formidable and that large stocks of weaponised plague bacteria were produced. Information on many of the Soviet projects is largely unavailable. Aerosolized pneumonic plague remains the most significant threat. The plague can be easily treated with antibiotics, thus a widespread epidemic is highly unlikely in developed countries.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Powdered Plague Vaccine?

Abstract : Single aerosol immunization of people with powder plague vaccine was accompanied by a weak general reaction. Double aerosol vaccination of people, carried out with a short interval between innoculations (5 days), was characterized by a somewhat higher reaction compared with the single vaccination. The reaction was significantly less pronounced than with a subcutaneous vaccination. The epictutaneous method of immunization, with respect to number and intensity of general reactions, corresponded to the single aerosol, but with respect to local reactogenicity it significantly exceeded the aerosol. The most pronounced sero-allergic shifts were noted in those persons who were innoculated twice; in addition the immunological effectiveness of the aerosol method of vaccination corresponded to the immunological effectiveness of the subcutaneous method. The immunological effectiveness of the single and double epicutaneous immunization is lower than the aerosol and subcutaneous. A further and more in-depth comparative study should be made of the ractogenicity and immunological effectiveness of the aerosol, subcutaneous and epicutaneous methods of immunization against plague.

[link to oai.dtic.mil]
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We don't pin morans until we check and recheck the doom !!
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Is that you Pollyannuh ?
"God sent me to piss the world off"
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Report from India........

Don't know what caused the deaths'
By: Alifiya Khan Date: 2009-11-05 Place: Pune


Doctors at Sassoon hospital anxiously await report on 35 patients who died of infection that caused symptoms similar to swine flu

Doctors at Sassoon Hospital, who are in the thick of the swine flu battle, are a worried lot. Thirty-five patients with swine flu-like symptoms died in the last 45 days at the hospital, and not one of them tested positive for swine flu. The doctors still don't know what caused the death of these patients.



[link to www.mid-day.com]
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Given this conversation about respiratory illnesses other than flu, I will repeat some CDC numbers I recently reviewed that piqued my interest. Might be of interest to others. Insight from anyone?

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OK...here are the CDC numbers I promised indicating something else is happening concurrently at a pretty high rate. Data source is included at the bottom of the post.


For reasons I cannot remember, I found myself last week on the CDC site looking at their reports, and I found something a bit alarming:

The numbers trend to indicate there is one or more additional NON-FLU respiratory variables occurring simultaneously in the US with, but collectively at a higher rate than H1N1, which supports claims made by many who have been ill.

The questions are:

What is it?

Why is it not being reported?


I will present the numbers first and then provide info on the source, which is reported by the CDC.

This is a sampling of lab confirmed cases. Sampling meaning the testing reports some from only 80 US-WHO labs as reported by the CDC but can be considered representative of what is occurring in the population as a whole.

WEEK 41 ending October 17, 09:

12,943 respiratory specimens were tested.

ONLY 37.5%of ALL respiratory specimens tested were POSITIVE FOR FLU (regardless of strain)

This indicates there is another huge variable here...a variable accounting for 62.5% of respiratory illness that were severe enough to be tested in the first place but were not flu (of any strain). What is it?


And what if these factors are being lumped in with UNCONFIRMED H1N1 numbers when they diagnose AND TREAT solely on symptoms leading, of course, to grossly inflated H1N1 numbers for greater support of vaccination and thus feeding this cycle?

Got respiratory illness? No testing, just diagnose as H1N1.

Even though the confirmed percentage of H1N1 is high, based on this past week's data, over 65% of the H1N1 symptom-based diagnoses COULD BE some other respiratory illness(es)! This is alarming considering 1. people could be (probably are) being misdiagnosed and therefore not properly treated and 2. the emergence of the Ukraine illness.

So, yes, even according to the WHO and CDC numbers, something else is running concurrent with H1N1 at a pretty high rate. What is it? Why are they not reporting it? And is this a trend?….


Let’s look at the previous week for a better picture (WEEK 40):

13,921 respiratory specimens were tested.

Only 29.4% of ALL respiratory specimens tested were POSITIVE FOR FLU (regardless of strain)

[link to www.cdc.gov]


WEEK 39:

10,816 respiratory specimens were tested

Only 27.4% of ALL respiratory specimens tested were POSITIVE FOR FLU (regardless of strain)


In chart format for a 10-week trend:



Week # - # confirmed Flu - % Flu confirmed of all respiratory tested

Week 41 ending Oct 17, 09 - 4,855 - 37.5%

Week 40 ending Oct 10, 09 - 4,093 - 29.4%

Week 39 ending Oct 3, 09 - 2,968 - 27.4%

Week 38 ending Sep 26, 09 - 2,126 - 22.8%

Week 37 ending Sep 19, 09 - 2,326 - 23.9%

Week 36 ending Sep 12, 09 - 1,378 - 18.2%

Week 35 ending Sep 5, 09 - 1,085 - 20.5%

Week 34 ending Aug 29, 09 - 1,109 - 17.3%

Week 33 ending Aug 22, 09 - 804 - 18.0%

Week 32 ending Aug 15, 09 - 525 - 15.6%

[link to www.cdc.gov]


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I haven't looked at baseline numbers from previous seasons to verify these data are unusual, but regardless, what are the reasons this is not being reported (simply to redirect, promote and sell H1N1 vaccine)?

How much is this inflating the H1N1 numbers?

But much more importantly: How many are being misdiagnosed AND mistreated with this diagnose 'by symptoms-assume H1N1' approach with these 'other than flu' numbers?

AND is this a difference between viral and bacterial as the data are collected for viral cases (see below)? If so, what is going on with bacterial with severe enough respiratory symptoms for a doctor to test...is it bacterial pneumonia? At such high rates relative to the H1N1 flu?



Rusty, if you are still reading, what is your wife's response to the above. Does she have any insight?

Or anyone else working in dx and treatment in the medical profession with insight...


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Source Info:

Viral Surveillance — About 80 U.S. World Health Organization (WHO) Collaborating Laboratories and 70 National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System (NREVSS), located throughout the United States participate in virologic surveillance for influenza. All state public health laboratories participate as WHO collaborating laboratories along with some county public health laboratories and some large tertiary care or academic medical centers.

Most NREVSS laboratories participating in influenza surveillance are hospital laboratories. The WHO and NREVSS collaborating laboratories report the total number of respiratory specimens tested and the number positive for influenza types A and B each week to CDC. Most of the U.S. WHO collaborating laboratories also report the influenza A subtype (H1 or H3) of the viruses they have isolated and the ages of the persons from whom the specimens were collected. The majority of NREVSS laboratories do not report the influenza A subtype. Reports from both sources are combined and the weekly total number of positive influenza tests, by virus type/subtype, and the percent of specimens testing positive for influenza are presented in the weekly influenza update, FluView.

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WHATEVER IS OVER THERE IS SO AID CAN BE SENT BY THE BILLIONS AND THOSE CRIMINALS CAN STEAL MOST OF THE AID MONEY. IT'S ALL CROOKED BS
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If you dont like that link try this.

[link to kuruc.info]

SHOCK! Epidemic of pneumonic plague in Ukraine?

Ministry of Health has not established the exact diagnosis of the epidemic disease in the western regions of Ukraine. Health Minister Vasyl Knyazevich has given information about spread of diseases in the Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions today at the meeting of Cabinet of Ministers.
According to the Minister, the World Health Organization is ready to render assistance to Ukrainian experts and the Ministry of Health in order to establish the cause of death and development of disease flu in the Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions.

long article.

and this...



[link to www.google.com]

Death toll rises to 86 in Ukraine flu epidemic


KIEV — Eighty-six people have died in Ukraine from flu and respiratory infections, the health ministry said Wednesday, in an epidemic the World Health Organisation said could be largely due to the A(H1N1) virus.

The ministry said that almost half a million cases of flu and acute respiratory infections had been recorded since mid-October in the country of 46 million, while 24,000 people have been hospitalised.

Some 148,000 cases have been recorded in the past 24 hours, it added.

The epidemic is concentrated in the west of the country which has borders with four European Union states but a growing number of cases are being reported in the capital Kiev.

"As the pandemic virus has rapidly become the dominant influenza strain worldwide, it can be assumed that most cases of influenza in Ukraine are caused by the H1N1 virus," the WHO said on Tuesday.

Lyudmila Mukharska, Ukraine's deputy chief health officer, said the authorities had confirmed that five of the dead had died of the H1N1 virus.

She vehemently denied rumours that the west of the country was suffering from an outbreak of plague, saying that it was "H1N1 that is circulating in Ukraine".

The WHO has sent a team of nine experts to Ukraine to help the authorities with the situation.

While the country is suffering from an above-average infection rate, many independent observers have accused Ukraine's squabbling politicians of seeking to profit from the situation ahead of January 17 presidential elections.

Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has personally overseen a delivery of anti-flu medicines in the middle of the night while pro-Western President Viktor Yushchenko even called on NATO for help.

"Many questions remain to be answered," said the WHO.

"The outbreak in Ukraine may be indicative of how the virus can behave in the northern hemisphere during the winter season, particularly in health care settings typically found in Eastern Europe."



and this...

Why assume? It has been several days now.

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WHO 'assumes' Ukraine gripped by swine flu

The World Health Organisation said Tuesday that it was valid to assume that most of the cases of influenza reportedly sweeping through Ukraine were caused by the pandemic A(H1N1) virus.

Ukrainian authorities on Sunday launched an urgent appeal for help from world powers after it imposed drastic measures to tackle a sudden surge of flu-like illness in the country.

More than 250,000 cases have been reported, according to official Ukrainian figures cited by the WHO.
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Umara means Commander

Its a jihadi site and the men listed are its leaders

(www.kavkazcenter.com) is a Chechen internet agency which is independent, international and Islamic.
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They're interested in it so as to move into that region next. When opportunity arises.





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