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The Zetas explain ...
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Rumors abound, but the current outbreak of the plague in the Ukraine is NOT a deliberate release of droplets via small planes, is NOT an attempt by the Russians to punish and threaten Ukraine or European politicians, is NOT caused by contaminated vaccines produced by Baxter or other production companies, and is NOT some kind of New World Order incentive to declaring martial law around the world. The great plague outbreaks, the Black Death, occurred in Europe which obviously has the plague bacillus indiginous in its rat population. At the onset of winter, rats seek shelter indoors, and invade human lodgings. The onset of winter is also a cold and flu season for humans. Traps are set, and in handling the dead rats, those with a cold or mild flu might pull out a hanky to blow their nose. What is causing the SPREAD of the pneumonic plague at this time in the Ukraine is fear of the swine flu. This fear is ramped up by authorities intent on immunizing the public to the greatest extent possible, due to their own fears of another genetically engineered flu virus being released. Thus nervous, those who empty rat traps and wipe their runny nose with a hanky, ALSO put this hanky up as a face mask when encountering others. Thus, they send any plague bacillus to their lungs, and the cycle begins.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi.
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"Bald Surbanites Under Glass"

They all died. Except babies and old people.
The new religion was founded by Harold "the lucky"
so named because he found a bunch of fresh corpses that kept the tribe alive for the winter months.

The population became much smarter however, without the stupid teenagers and twenty somethings walking around with phones and i pods stuck to their head while musing over "twilight " and the latest crap band.

(although a few were found stumbling around saying phrases like OMG - which the older folk figured meant "on my goggles"
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mutations with the vaccine and the viruses....lab creted WILL GO FAST



Limit or restrict CONTACT



there are some NASTY mutations

think aggressive, bites, rabies like...zombie...
 Quoting: ShadowDancer



H1N1 has not mutated since the first strain left Mexico earlier this year. The panic needs to STOP. Keep your hands clean. If you have flu symptoms like fever, non-mucus cough, body aches, chills, moderately tired, chest discomfort and headache, drink plenty of fluids. If you are afraid you have H1N1, go to the hospital for a swab and get treated with Tamiflu within 24-48 hours or it is useless. BE AN ADULT and take care of yourself when you don't feel well and everyone will be fine.

Stop panicking people.

[link to articles.mercola.com]

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The Zetas explain ...
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Rumors abound, but the current outbreak of the plague in the Ukraine is NOT a deliberate release of droplets via small planes, is NOT an attempt by the Russians to punish and threaten Ukraine or European politicians, is NOT caused by contaminated vaccines produced by Baxter or other production companies, and is NOT some kind of New World Order incentive to declaring martial law around the world. The great plague outbreaks, the Black Death, occurred in Europe which obviously has the plague bacillus indiginous in its rat population. At the onset of winter, rats seek shelter indoors, and invade human lodgings. The onset of winter is also a cold and flu season for humans. Traps are set, and in handling the dead rats, those with a cold or mild flu might pull out a hanky to blow their nose. What is causing the SPREAD of the pneumonic plague at this time in the Ukraine is fear of the swine flu. This fear is ramped up by authorities intent on immunizing the public to the greatest extent possible, due to their own fears of another genetically engineered flu virus being released. Thus nervous, those who empty rat traps and wipe their runny nose with a hanky, ALSO put this hanky up as a face mask when encountering others. Thus, they send any plague bacillus to their lungs, and the cycle begins.
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


WOW, Such deep insight!! Nobel prize for you. what a crock of shit.

BOOWAAAHAHAHAHA
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The Zetas explain ...
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Rumors abound, but the current outbreak of the plague in the Ukraine is NOT a deliberate release of droplets via small planes, is NOT an attempt by the Russians to punish and threaten Ukraine or European politicians, is NOT caused by contaminated vaccines produced by Baxter or other production companies, and is NOT some kind of New World Order incentive to declaring martial law around the world. The great plague outbreaks, the Black Death, occurred in Europe which obviously has the plague bacillus indiginous in its rat population. At the onset of winter, rats seek shelter indoors, and invade human lodgings. The onset of winter is also a cold and flu season for humans. Traps are set, and in handling the dead rats, those with a cold or mild flu might pull out a hanky to blow their nose. What is causing the SPREAD of the pneumonic plague at this time in the Ukraine is fear of the swine flu. This fear is ramped up by authorities intent on immunizing the public to the greatest extent possible, due to their own fears of another genetically engineered flu virus being released. Thus nervous, those who empty rat traps and wipe their runny nose with a hanky, ALSO put this hanky up as a face mask when encountering others. Thus, they send any plague bacillus to their lungs, and the cycle begins.
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


OOKAA, 500,000+ infected the last 5 days because they handle rat traps. yup you are are thinker I must say. HEHEHE
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zeta? can't beleive anyone is stupid enough to quote someone that is a "zeta"
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Im going to call it....


bsflag


Look at the bullshit the last "outbreak" caused.

They all lie
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zeta? can't beleive anyone is stupid enough to quote someone that is a "zeta"
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Damn dude ya got me on that one, will hold back in the future.
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Im going to call it....


bsflag


Look at the bullshit the last "outbreak" caused.

They all lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550635

It's even on their on fucking board in the who.

Here it is sucker


Pandemic (H1N1) 2009, Ukraine - update 1
3 November 2009 -- According to the Ministry of Health of Ukraine, the country has now recorded more than 250 000 cases of influenza-like illness, with 235 patients requiring intensive care. As of 2 November, 70 deaths from acute respiratory illness have been reported.

Regions in western Ukraine continue to show the highest rates of acute respiratory illness/influenza-like illness. The level of activity in the Kyiv area is also increasing rapidly.

Laboratory testing in Ukraine has confirmed pandemic H1N1 influenza virus in samples taken from patients in two of the most affected regions. As the pandemic virus has rapidly become the dominant influenza strain worldwide, it can be assumed that most cases of influenza in Ukraine are caused by the H1N1 virus.

As elsewhere, WHO strongly recommends early treatment with the antiviral drugs, oseltamivir or zanamivir, for patients who meet treatment criteria, even in the absence of a positive laboratory test confirming H1N1 infection.

Related links

Recommended use of antivirals

Pandemic (H1N1) 2009





At the request of the government, a multi-disciplinary team of nine experts has been deployed by WHO and arrived in Kyiv yesterday evening. Discussions with the Minister of Health were held this morning to brief the team.

Team members will now begin field investigations to characterize the clinical and epidemiological features of the outbreak. Work will initially begin in Lviv region, where reported numbers of cases showing severe manifestations of acute respiratory illness have been especially high. Two virologists on the team have started working at the National Influenza Centre and the laboratories of the Central Sanitary and Epidemiological Station in Kyiv to provide diagnostic support.

Samples sent by the Ministry of Health were received today by the WHO Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza, Mill Hill in London, UK. The laboratory will conduct confirmatory tests and further characterize the virus.

Many questions remain to be answered. The outbreak in Ukraine may be indicative of how the virus can behave in the northern hemisphere during the winter season, particularly in health care settings typically found in Eastern Europe.

Given the potential significance of this outbreak as an early warning signal, WHO commends the government of Ukraine for its transparent reporting and open sharing of samples.


WHO continues to recommend no closing of borders and no restrictions on international travel, including to Ukraine. Experience shows that such measures will not stop further spread of the vir

Notice how these cock suckers are recommending to keep the borders wide open....

It's amazing how these jerks can still breath out there where is the mob when you need it and where are the pitchforks!

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By the way that report goes until 2 november so it is safe to say that there are at least twice as much victims now!

damned
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What I have just heard on the news is that all the victims have tested negative for swine flu. That is why Pneumonic plague has been suggested

The symptoms are the same as SF and Pneumonic plague. Temp, aches and pains and blood in the lungs.

The ECDC, CDC and WHO have sent teams out to Ukraine to see what is going on. This may be Pneumonic plague but it could well be a mutation of H1N1 and if it is we should expect this mutated strain flu to be hitting all other countries in the coming months. The fatality rate is high at 84 in 5 days.

Oh and the vax may well be useless but we are advised to get it anyway.

I think thats it all covered..as per some spokesman from the ECDC.
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By the way that report goes until 2 november so it is safe to say that there are at least twice as much victims now!

damned
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Today's numberes are 600,000+ according to Ukranian press.
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I just talked to a friend from the Ukraine.

He said that the entire family was sick and they were worried for the kids, but it appears they are getting better. Their grandmother is a different story and they do not think she will make it.

EVERYTHING is closed and most are not working nor really going out.

Tamiflu is not available, nor are surgical masks (Well, they are, but VERY expensive.)

He said it is very real and pretty scary.
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LETTERS: Swine Flu Infecting Politics

Published On Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:59 AM
By IVAN KATCHANOVSKI
Crimson Staff Writer

Swine Flu Infecting Politics



To the editors:



I commend your paper for exposing a panic-causing politicization of a flu outbreak in Ukraine and its negative effect on the election campaign [Tough on Swine Flu, Nov. 2]. The government-imposed ban on political and other mass gatherings, closing of schools and universities for three weeks, a deliberate inflation of a potential health risks and the severity of the flu spread, and a policy to make every Ukrainian wear masks are just recent illustrations of a populist and opportunist character of Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

In addition to an unwarranted credit for saving Ukraine from the disease, the flu scare creates additional opportunities for personal appropriation of large-scale emergency funding by government officials. Corruption reached epidemic proportions in Ukraine.

However, your editorial fails to note that President Viktor Yushchenko and Viktor Yanukovych, a leading presidential candidate from the Party of Regions, are not less eager than Tymoshenko to embrace such undemocratic policies and exploit the flu and public fear for their advantage during the presidential campaign. President Yushchenko declared a flu outbreak a threat to national security and requested help from NATO. Yushchenko might use it as a pretext to impose a state of emergency and postpone the elections because he is badly lagging in the polls. Viktor Yanukovych called for extending a quarantine to all regions of Ukraine, even though the flu outbreak is currently limited to Western regions. Inna Bohoslovska, another presidential candidate and until recently a leading member of the Party of Regions, in a popular program broadcast by a television channel, which is owned by an associate of Yanukovych, stated without any scientific evidence that Ukraine is experiencing an epidemic of pneumonic plague. Since the first round of the presidential elections is two and a half months away, one has to wonder what kind of other methods the presidential contenders would employ to gain the power.

All political... 'People shouldn't gather' (LoL)... State of emergency - Suspend elections...

elitist trash opportunits use whatever they have available...

Epidemics are in plenty - currently!!
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LETTERS: Swine Flu Infecting Politics

Published On Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:59 AM
By IVAN KATCHANOVSKI
Crimson Staff Writer

Swine Flu Infecting Politics



To the editors:



I commend your paper for exposing a panic-causing politicization of a flu outbreak in Ukraine and its negative effect on the election campaign [Tough on Swine Flu, Nov. 2]. The government-imposed ban on political and other mass gatherings, closing of schools and universities for three weeks, a deliberate inflation of a potential health risks and the severity of the flu spread, and a policy to make every Ukrainian wear masks are just recent illustrations of a populist and opportunist character of Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

In addition to an unwarranted credit for saving Ukraine from the disease, the flu scare creates additional opportunities for personal appropriation of large-scale emergency funding by government officials. Corruption reached epidemic proportions in Ukraine.

However, your editorial fails to note that President Viktor Yushchenko and Viktor Yanukovych, a leading presidential candidate from the Party of Regions, are not less eager than Tymoshenko to embrace such undemocratic policies and exploit the flu and public fear for their advantage during the presidential campaign. President Yushchenko declared a flu outbreak a threat to national security and requested help from NATO. Yushchenko might use it as a pretext to impose a state of emergency and postpone the elections because he is badly lagging in the polls. Viktor Yanukovych called for extending a quarantine to all regions of Ukraine, even though the flu outbreak is currently limited to Western regions. Inna Bohoslovska, another presidential candidate and until recently a leading member of the Party of Regions, in a popular program broadcast by a television channel, which is owned by an associate of Yanukovych, stated without any scientific evidence that Ukraine is experiencing an epidemic of pneumonic plague. Since the first round of the presidential elections is two and a half months away, one has to wonder what kind of other methods the presidential contenders would employ to gain the power.

All political... 'People shouldn't gather' (LoL)... State of emergency - Suspend elections...

elitist trash opportunits use whatever they have available...

Epidemics are in plenty - currently!!
 Quoting: White Hat 525020


link: [link to www.thecrimson.com]
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I think the fact that we now have similar reports from Belarus, Romania, Bulgaria and India mean that we can discount the idea that this is all a big politically orchestrated hoax.
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The Zetas explain ...
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Rumors abound, but the current outbreak of the plague in the Ukraine is NOT a deliberate release of droplets via small planes, is NOT an attempt by the Russians to punish and threaten Ukraine or European politicians, is NOT caused by contaminated vaccines produced by Baxter or other production companies, and is NOT some kind of New World Order incentive to declaring martial law around the world. The great plague outbreaks, the Black Death, occurred in Europe which obviously has the plague bacillus indiginous in its rat population. At the onset of winter, rats seek shelter indoors, and invade human lodgings. The onset of winter is also a cold and flu season for humans. Traps are set, and in handling the dead rats, those with a cold or mild flu might pull out a hanky to blow their nose. What is causing the SPREAD of the pneumonic plague at this time in the Ukraine is fear of the swine flu. This fear is ramped up by authorities intent on immunizing the public to the greatest extent possible, due to their own fears of another genetically engineered flu virus being released. Thus nervous, those who empty rat traps and wipe their runny nose with a hanky, ALSO put this hanky up as a face mask when encountering others. Thus, they send any plague bacillus to their lungs, and the cycle begins.


OOKAA, 500,000+ infected the last 5 days because they handle rat traps. yup you are are thinker I must say. HEHEHE
 Quoting: RAT TRAP 561256


Nope, only the 70 or so who died from the almost 100% fatal plague pneumonia.

Not everyone who sniffles has the plague, dope!
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Its being reported on Sky News too now.

[link to news.sky.com]
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600 healthcare workers 200 of which are doctors have taken ill in Kiev alone.

I had read ages ago..Re: H5N1 that the number of HCW infected would be the litmus test in assessing how contagious and virulent a virus can be..

This is a very, very bad sign.


[link to www.kyivpost.com]
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Yea it looks like we have a definite mutation here, I would expect the mainstream news to pick this up in the next couple days.
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lets not forget about this folks
BUMP
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The Zetas explain ...
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Rumors abound, but the current outbreak of the plague in the Ukraine is NOT a deliberate release of droplets via small planes, is NOT an attempt by the Russians to punish and threaten Ukraine or European politicians, is NOT caused by contaminated vaccines produced by Baxter or other production companies, and is NOT some kind of New World Order incentive to declaring martial law around the world. The great plague outbreaks, the Black Death, occurred in Europe which obviously has the plague bacillus indiginous in its rat population. At the onset of winter, rats seek shelter indoors, and invade human lodgings. The onset of winter is also a cold and flu season for humans. Traps are set, and in handling the dead rats, those with a cold or mild flu might pull out a hanky to blow their nose. What is causing the SPREAD of the pneumonic plague at this time in the Ukraine is fear of the swine flu. This fear is ramped up by authorities intent on immunizing the public to the greatest extent possible, due to their own fears of another genetically engineered flu virus being released. Thus nervous, those who empty rat traps and wipe their runny nose with a hanky, ALSO put this hanky up as a face mask when encountering others. Thus, they send any plague bacillus to their lungs, and the cycle begins.
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Primary pneumonic plague results from inhalation of fine infective droplets and can be transmitted from human to human without involvement of fleas or animals.

Pneumonic Plague is not exclusively vector-borne like bubonic plague; instead it can be spread from person to person.

There does not need to involvement of rats/animals....as with Bubonic Plague.

It is the Bio-Weapon of choice for terrorists.


See: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The Zetas explain ...
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Rumors abound, but the current outbreak of the plague in the Ukraine is NOT a deliberate release of droplets via small planes, is NOT an attempt by the Russians to punish and threaten Ukraine or European politicians, is NOT caused by contaminated vaccines produced by Baxter or other production companies, and is NOT some kind of New World Order incentive to declaring martial law around the world. The great plague outbreaks, the Black Death, occurred in Europe which obviously has the plague bacillus indiginous in its rat population. At the onset of winter, rats seek shelter indoors, and invade human lodgings. The onset of winter is also a cold and flu season for humans. Traps are set, and in handling the dead rats, those with a cold or mild flu might pull out a hanky to blow their nose. What is causing the SPREAD of the pneumonic plague at this time in the Ukraine is fear of the swine flu. This fear is ramped up by authorities intent on immunizing the public to the greatest extent possible, due to their own fears of another genetically engineered flu virus being released. Thus nervous, those who empty rat traps and wipe their runny nose with a hanky, ALSO put this hanky up as a face mask when encountering others. Thus, they send any plague bacillus to their lungs, and the cycle begins.


OOKAA, 500,000+ infected the last 5 days because they handle rat traps. yup you are are thinker I must say. HEHEHE


Nope, only the 70 or so who died from the almost 100% fatal plague pneumonia.

Not everyone who sniffles has the plague, dope!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810978


It appears that you have accepted the number 70 as fact....big mistake.....as this comes from MSM. They have MSM in Ukraine too...duh. I have read an article that the death count is much higher.... and that the doctors have been ordered to keep their mouths shut.
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"Since the 1990s, "colloidal silver" has been marketed as an alternative medicine product, with unsubstantiated, and some jurisdictions illegal claims of effectiveness. In some cases, people have developed argyria as a result, and the collective weight of medical literature advises against the use of these silver preparations."

lol- yeah i'll take the word of a glp memeber with an iq of 7 over the collected weight of medical iterature. lol

idiot
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810800


It is YOU who has shown your ignorance in the research. Stop your childish BS and conduct your due diligence. You appear an idiot.

Here, I'll even give you a much needed hand:

As stated in many of these RESEARCH studies, "Silver has been used as an antimicrobial agent in the medical field for centuries."

This is just a tiny sampling. Start your education:

Belly, R. T., and G. C. Kydd. 1982. Silver resistance in microorganisms. Dev. Ind. Microbiol. 23:567-577.

Berger, T. J., J. A. Spadaro, R. Bierman, S. E. Chapin, and R. O. Becker. 1976. Antifungal properties of electrically generated metallic ions. Antimicrob. Agents Chemother. 10:856-860. [PubMed]

Berger, T. J., J. A. Spadaro, S. E. Chapin, and R. O. Becker. 1976. Electrically generated silver ions: quantitative effects on bacterial and mammalian cells. Antimicrob. Agents Chemother. 9:357-358. [PubMed]


Bragg, P. D., and D. J. Rainnie. 1974. The effect of silver ions on the respiratory chain of Escherichia coli. Can. J. Microbiol. 20:883-889. [PubMed]

Brown, T., and D. Smith. 1976. The effects of silver nitrate on the growth and ultrastructure of the yeast Cryptococcus albidus. Microbios Lett. 3:155-162.


Feng, Q. L., J. Wu, G. Q. Chen, F. Z. Cui, T. N. Kim, and J. O. Kim. 2000. A mechanistic study of the antibacterial effect of silver ions on Escherichia coli and Staphylococcus aureus. J. Biomed. Mater. Res. 52:662-668. [PubMed]


Furr, J. R., A. D. Russell, T. D. Turner, and A. Andrews. 1994. Antibacterial activity of Actisorb Plus, Actisorb and silver nitrate. J. Hosp. Infect. 27:201-208. [PubMed]


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Klasen, H. J. 2000. Historical review of the use of silver in the treatment of burns. I. Early uses. Burns 26:117-130.


Liau, S. Y., D. C. Read, W. J. Pugh, J. R. Furr, and A. D. Russell. 1997. Interaction of silver nitrate with readily identifiable groups: relationship to the antibacterial action of silver ions. Lett. Appl. Microbiol. 25:279-283. [PubMed]

Miller, L. P., and S. E. A. McCallan. 1957. Toxic action of metal ions to fungus spores. Agric. Food Chem. 5:116-122.

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Thurman, R. B., and C. P. Gerba. 1989. The molecular mechanisms of copper and silver ion disinfection of bacteria and viruses. CRC Crit. Rev. Environ. Control 18:295-315.

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By the way that report goes until 2 november so it is safe to say that there are at least twice as much victims now!

damned


Today's numberes are 600,000+ according to Ukranian press.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 809248

Omg scream
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I think the fact that we now have similar reports from Belarus, Romania, Bulgaria and India mean that we can discount the idea that this is all a big politically orchestrated hoax.
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This could be the real swine flu virus that originated in mexico!

So this could be a first wave by that logic there will be a more potent second wave and a deadly third wave!!!!
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Twenty-eight swine flu cases confirmed in Ukraine, 13 die of swine flu, says emergencies ministry

Twenty-eight cases of the A/H1N1 flu virus have been confirmed in Ukraine, according to Oleksiy Hromazin, the director of the Ukrainian Emergencies Ministry's department for healthcare and medical and biological protection.

He said on Friday that of the 28 confirmed swine flu cases, 13 people had died. He also said that 109 people had already died of flu and acute respiratory infections in Ukraine since the start of the epidemic.

[link to www.interfax.com.ua]
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Clusters of Hemorrhagic H1N1 Pneumonia in Ukraine
Recombinomics Commentary 11:54
November 4, 2009

Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast

All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 - 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.

The above comments are from an early story describing cases in Ukraine. The clustering of hemorrhagic cases raised concerns. The concern was increased by anecdotal reports citing a high frequency of such cases in Lviv (see map). The recent WHO announcement that they were initially focusing of severe acute respiratory illness in Lviv also increased concerns.

Hemorrhagic pneumonia was also observed in the 1918 pandemic and was thought to be linked to cytokine storm. Consequently, those with robust immune systems (previously health young adults) disproportionately died, which has also been seen in the current outbreak (Mexico, US, and worldwide). However, the cases in Ukraine appear to be clustered, raising concerns that the virus has changed.

However, the change may be minor, since the current H1N1 has produced the above symptoms in earlier cases. More severe cases may be linked to a higher viral load, which could be linked to minor genetic changes, or simply due to concentration of virus in schools. In the US the spread of the virus has been linked to school openings, which lead to an explosion of cases and subsequent student deaths. However, now there are increases in fatalities in teachers and administrators, increasing concerns worldwide.

In Ukraine, weather changes and heating issues may have led to a surge in cases, and increased concentrations of virus could have produced conditions favoring high viral loads and increased cytokine storms.

Samples have been sent to Mill Hill, and sequence data should be released shortly. Similarly, investigations on hemorrhagic pneumonia in lviv should help resolve the mechanism for the high concentration of such cases in western Ukraine.

However, H1N1 spread in Kiev has been noted, and other countries such as Belarus have announced additional H1N1 suspect or confirmed fatalities.

Sequence analysis of these cases and an update on the frequency of hemorrhagic pneumonia in Ukraine and worldwide would be useful.

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