Linking General relativity and Quantum mechanics | |
spacetime bungee jump (OP) User ID: 811057 United Kingdom 11/05/2009 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Universe is a hugely complicated system, and all of the interactions and forces are a result of this fractal space. As space is simply a construct and not a physical barrier, the energy within the universe is almost 'thinking' of the space and behaving as if it was a real barrier. However, imagine the amount of computational power that would be needed to compute this fractal and all of the complexity and form it leads to. The universe posseses this power, but that is simply because, before it created this fractal, space and time did not exist. So if time did not exist even the longest calculation would be instantaneous. Thats how the universe was able to create itself. No computer in our universe could ever calculate the universe it exists in, because it exists within the time of our universe. Only in the absence of time, could it be calculated. That leads me on to something - everynight we go to sleep, we are able to run this calculation ourselves, and create our own reality. Think of the complexity that exists in simply touching an object - the amount of atoms present, the sum of all the electromagnetic repulsive forces between the atoms in your fingers and the atoms in the object. Think of the heat of the object - the average kinetic energy of millions of atoms. Somehow you can calculate this in your head INSTANTLY whenever you dream. So our consciousness must actually exist outside of space and time in order for us to do this. Just another little thing I was thinking about the other day |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 804868 United States 11/05/2009 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will never be fully linked because they cannot co exist. Tesla looked over Einstein's theory of relativity and laughed it off saying "magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king ... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists .." |
spacetime bungee jump (OP) User ID: 811057 United Kingdom 11/05/2009 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will never be fully linked because they cannot co exist. Tesla looked over Einstein's theory of relativity and laughed it off saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 804868"magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king ... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists .." good old tesla I'm not a huge fan of the way general relativity was considered a revolution in science. The error in my opinion, is that it explains the effects of gravity, but now what it actually is as many people believe. Space needs to be considered on the scale of the quantum foam and built up, not described in terms of its averaged out smooth topography in the cosmic sense and then worked down. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 811047 United Kingdom 11/05/2009 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will never be fully linked because they cannot co exist. Tesla looked over Einstein's theory of relativity and laughed it off saying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 804868"magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king ... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists .." Tesla was the man! He proved, time and again, that Electricity runs the Universe, not gravity (which is 46 orders of magnitude weaker). 99.999% of the Universe is made of plasma, and provides an almost perfect conductor for Galaxy-sized Birkeland currents. Everything is Electric! |
Qualia User ID: 664538 United States 11/05/2009 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now this pattern opens up and becomes fractal like when a symetry is applied (I wont go into it here)... Quoting: spacetime bungee jump 811057Why not? Fractality seems to me to be the most relative aspect of our existence wherein removing ourselves from the closed system is concerned...if one cares not to exist within a closed system, that is. Well it means that we can look below us and see space behaving in discrete tiny quanta, and it means we can look above us in terms of scale, and observe the continuous nature of space as gravity moves things through space, however the point where these two scales come together but never actually touch is an event horizon that exists within the nucleus of a cell. I wont go into this here but I'm colloborating with a biologist who is studying an unknown force inside the cell during mitosis. He believes there is a form of 'gravity well' that causes genetic material to condense around the centriole, and then causes the non local seperation and quater turn of the microtubiules. Quoting: spacetime bungee jump 811057It may be a wild haired propostion, but perhaps the "gravity well" is produced by the inception of a vacuum state? Also, interesting to read your rubberband example. I've often thoughtfully touched on a vision/mind picture of a rubberband while considering such things, but was never able to take it to fruition. Thanks for the example! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 793798 Canada 11/05/2009 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One day, however, I saw how frontier science was merely a repackaged model of the occult, using a language and ritual (observation/experimentation) that linguistically and philosophically distances itself from the stigma of occult superstition. That science works as a model at all merely underscores a correlation between the natural world and that of the cognitive; it in no way implies discovery at its most basic level (ie, truth). I personally believe that someone or several someone's is selling us a lemon when it comes to all of scientific academia past the grade school level. |
dead horse User ID: 811070 United States 11/05/2009 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you cannot find an example in the world around you, the theory is more than likely incorrect. I applaud you for thinking outside the box, however your feet are still mired in the bog of currently accepted science. Trying to build a house on 2 bad foundations is not necessarily a smart move. Please explain your goal with this new theory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 794685 United States 11/05/2009 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He believes there is a form of 'gravity well' that causes genetic material to condense around the centriole, and then causes the non local seperation and quater turn of the microtubiules. Quoting: spacetime bungee jump 811057Gravity is a wave and there are two different types of gravity. Gravity A and gravity B. Gravity A works on a small or micro scale and gravity B works on a larger or macro scale. We're familiar with gravity B, it is the big gravity wave that holds the earth, as well as the rest of the planets in orbit around the sun and holds the moon, as well as man-made satellites, in orbit around the earth. We're not familiar with gravity A. It is the small gravity wave which is the major contributory force that holds together the mass that makes up all protons and neutrons. |
spacetime bungee jump (OP) User ID: 811057 United Kingdom 11/05/2009 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I decided not to go into the fractal space as it would take me hours to explain it in words without mathematics. For example: The fractal is similar to the hybridised orbitals around an atom (remember the dumbell shaped P orbitals?) Well basically, when you apply the symetry where a circular dimensioin of radius R is equivalent to a circular dimension with a ridius of 1/R the dumbell shape splits open and then the tips of the dumbells become the central point of a larger set of dumbells that have been rotated through 90 degrees. I'm sorry that doesnt help at all I know, but this language is not very good at explaing such things. I'll design some animations to show it quite simply. In response to the comments about the occult, I dont think you can frown at science simply because you believe it to be an occult art - The universe has existed long before these occult groups formed, and science is simply the art of understanding the universe. It was just Hijacked by these occult groups of people hundreds of years ago. If anything, I just want to get scientific creative thinking to be a widely discussed topic by the general public. I understand the comment on building a model on currently accepted science. I personally have created my model from first principles, and I dont fully accept all current theories - As I said, I'm not fully convinced by General relativity, and the standard model of particle physics is too much of a mess to be fundamental. I would say that my goal in developing my framework is simply to know as best I can how the universe came to be the way it is and how it works - hopefully, that will put me in the best possible place to find out WHY it came to be. Thanks for commenting so far |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 488775 United States 11/05/2009 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, there is all the theories, and so far I like the Holographic Universe model. How long can nothing exist? If you state forever, then you have just created time - in the respect of time creating its self. As how the Universe created its self (or had a pushing finger in the correct direction - Antrotrophic (sp) Principle) then the fine constants of the Universe are there for a reason and must be in a certain value range. I just equate the Holographic Universe as so much energy as to create the form of the Universe, and whether it as I understand what you stated ends up as a donut shape upon its self is something that other scientists (one of which I am not) equate as a flat membrane and in the case of the Universe it is flat and like a membrane (I think D or P whatever it is) and parallel membranes all exist in whatever form whatever anyone thinks is coming out next. Sorry, but that is all the further I have gotten, but for some reason, I doubt if one can equate it in the end to a black hole event horizen, because I think if there is only a singularity, it is naked and of its own form (which would be like the Universe and what lies beyond the universe). There it becomes muddled to me, but still the form that can be created with the interactions of the 'call it waves' creates the illusion of all the form that is it is all a construct or abstract form that contains everything that we can know. To reach outside the box (the cat of Shroginger's (sp) equation) reaches to a dealing with Maxwell's equations and Fourier Transforms. Don't expect me to do the math of that as I would have to really study all of that and I think some people have to a degree. I always thought string theory or superstring theory was a degree off of that, but not dealing with that aspect of the Spacetime that I now only call - "Time" or "Existence". First there was a Time and then Space was created to contain the all of what Time could create in a defined way. That may be stated perhaps as Energy, but somewhere along the way to me Time and Energy have to be equated together and Space is a by-product of that as well as fractals and anything else. Well............................that is all I can go. I am not here nor am I not here. The Universe is Not Enough! Perhaps it is, and perhaps it is not. Perhaps Time will tell all, perhaps not. I leave confused as always. |
Cat InABoxOfTheMind User ID: 465669 United States 11/05/2009 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do realize that no matter how elegant your models and theories get, you are still attempting to discover the secrets of the Universe by shattering it into concepts and thoughts? How can you discover a "unified field" if you keep breaking it apart with the mind? Current physics and your theory are merely describing subtle aspects of the endlessly elaborating and twisted mazes of the mind fractal. Making it more elaborate and inventing a new "Paper and String Theory" only wraps Schroedinger's cat in a fancier box. Doing physics from this left-brain "objectivity" creates artifacts, e.g. time/space, probability, wave/particle duality, Heisenberg uncertainty, etc. Pitiful models with lots of defects. Hopefully, mainstream physics will someday realize this and call it what it is: "The Physics of the Limited Mind," and move on to physics of other things, like maybe, the Universe. |
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