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Total Destruction of Lungs in Ukraine Fatal H1N1 Cases
Recombinomics Commentary 04:22
November 9, 2009

The symptoms are observed at different stages of disease - a fever with a temperature over 38 C, cough, respiratory disorders. When cough was characterized by negligible allocation phlegm or dry unproductive cough with blotches of blood. All the patients come to hospital on average by 3-7 days of onset, were in serious condition. Period of time from onset to death averaged from 4 to 7 days. In all patients during a hospital for signs of respiratory insufficiency of various degrees, which quickly rose and manifested accelerated respiration rate, shortness of breath and effectiveness of independent breathing. X-ray studies were performed on 1-2 day hospitalization. Most patients experienced a double-headed particles of lower lung lesion, followed by a trend towards total destruction.

The above translation is from an announcement today from the Ukraine Ministry of Health describe 90 fatalities (see map) associated with community acquired pneumonia. The full report included the age distribution, which exactly match distribution reported previously by other countries for swine H1N1. 52/90 fatalities were in the age group of 19-40, followed by 26/90 in the 41-55 age group.

Coughing up blood followed the "total destruction" of lungs again gives a clinical picture of hemorrhagic pneumonia caused by H1N1 swine flu.


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1,031,597 Influenza/ARI

52,742 Hospitalized

174 Dead

The latest update for Ukraine includes more than 1 million reported cases (see map). The fatalities have jumped from 155 to 174 and almost 53K have been hospitalized. The biggest jump in fatalities was in Lviv, where reported deaths rose from 63 to 74. However, the largest jump in cases was in Kiev, raising concerns that the infections were spreading east.

The increase in cases and deaths continue to support a genetic change in the H1N1 virus.

more at link

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This flu thing in the Ukraine is smelling like BS.

There is no major videos coming out of the country ~ the major news outlet are very pro-forma and even quiet on the subject. So far, only 144 deaths reported over the whole country.

From the internet buzz you'd think the whole country was coughing up bloody lungs. This is the 'panic' TPTB wanted the world to generate.

Don't buy into it.


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This flu thing in the Ukraine is smelling like BS.

There is no major videos coming out of the country ~ the major news outlet are very pro-forma and even quiet on the subject. So far, only 144 deaths reported over the whole country.

From the internet buzz you'd think the whole country was coughing up bloody lungs. This is the 'panic' TPTB wanted the world to generate.

Don't buy into it.


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They want you to take the vaccine.
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They want you to take the vaccine.
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yep

Thats why they keep babbling about millions of lives are ion danger
a load of phoey
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exactly why they are pushing to have you stop smoking

a 1 pack a day smoker has a thin layer of tar on his lungs which protects him from the virus
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I thought they confirmed it was pneumonic plague in the Ukraine, not H1N1.

Is H1N1 the only thing the press can think of when people are dropping dead?

Are they paid to be stupid?


He fell to his death from a steep cliff -- must be H1N1...!!

His wife shot him in the chest 7 times -- must be H1N1...!!!




They're just whipping up the panic so people will take the damn vaccine... and how do we know these people in the Ukraine aren't dying because of some vaccine they were chumped into taking?
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WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE?? WE NEED SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN THE TRUE FACTS. 5a
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I would tend to lean towards some other disease

How is pneumonic plague spread? What are the symptoms?

Pneumonic plague occurs when the Y. pestis bacterium is inhaled. The disease may be spread through face-to-face contact when an infected person coughs or sneezes. Because it enters the body by being inhaled, pneumonic plague could be spread intentionally if the bacteria were put into aerosol form.

The symptoms of pneumonic plague begin one to four days after exposure to the bacteria. The symptoms include fever, headache, weakness and a bloody or watery cough due to infection of the lungs (pneumonia). The pneumonia rapidly becomes worse and — without early treatment — it can be fatal.
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how do we know these people in the Ukraine aren't dying because of some vaccine they were chumped into taking?
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Good point


i know quite a few old people who have died the last year or so


the flu jab did not make them very "healthy"
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exactly why they are pushing to have you stop smoking

a 1 pack a day smoker has a thin layer of tar on his lungs which protects him from the virus
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Everybody should start smoking in moderation then for good health.
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Oh wake up! Ministers are being sacked for actually speaking out about the situation. Ukraine govt has asked for a weeks silence on the subject and Romania, Poland and Belarus are instructed to release no figures or info.

MSM will not touch the story, if it was a NWO fear campaign they would be all over it like a purperic rash.
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MSM will not touch the story, if it was a NWO fear campaign they would be all over it like a purperic rash.
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Its a fear campaign alright

They are testing the Ukraine and us next

Ukraine is a dummy run
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Well, everybody has got to die someday. right? It might be horrific but you cannot escape your own death when it comes. That's just pt pf life.
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how do we know these people in the Ukraine aren't dying because of some vaccine they were chumped into taking?


Good point


i know quite a few old people who have died the last year or so


the flu jab did not make them very "healthy"
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They hardly take any vaccines in the Ukraine. They certainly didn't have the flu vaccine and even now they are only giving the vaccine to the unaffected eastern regions as it is too late in the west.

Something may well have been released into the atmosphere there but it is still passing person to person and crossing borders. Don't fall into the trap of believing that if you avoid the vaccine you will be safe because even if the vaccine causes a more pathogenic flu, that flu will still pass to the unvaccinated.
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They hardly take any vaccines in the Ukraine. They certainly didn't have the flu vaccine and even now they are only giving the vaccine to the unaffected eastern regions as it is too late in the west.

Something may well have been released into the atmosphere there but it is still passing person to person and crossing borders. Don't fall into the trap of believing that if you avoid the vaccine you will be safe because even if the vaccine causes a more pathogenic flu, that flu will still pass to the unvaccinated.
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well you take the vaccine then,on your body shall be it!


I am not taking it,i have met people who have the flu jab and are ill with flu for 6 months solid,anyone who trusts the science world is stupid


The science world is mental,they are taking vitamins out of food and injecting animals will roids saying its "healthy" they are fucking crazy evil bastards

btw


The flu jab is wide spread in the Ukraine,get your facts right
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5a

I agree with Nightshade on this one. I think the silence of MSM is to prevent a worldwide panic not create one to ramp up vaccination. The fact the effected areas are creating a news blackout tells me that it is an attempt towithhold info which is the position I took over a week and a half ago in the first thread I posted on this problem. We have a true PANDEMIC here and they are scared as hell because they know that there is no way to contain it.
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5a

I agree with Nightshade on this one. I think the silence of MSM is to prevent a worldwide panic not create one to ramp up vaccination. The fact the effected areas are creating a news blackout tells me that it is an attempt towithhold info which is the position I took over a week and a half ago in the first thread I posted on this problem. We have a true PANDEMIC here and they are scared as hell because they know that there is no way to contain it.
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bollox

The Ukraine is just a dummy run,they are shutting down the country and scaring people in to taking the vaccine,we are next

They babbling about millions of lives in danger,when the reality is hardley anone has died

btw


doctors are Gods to the brainwashed
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doctors are Gods to the brainwashed

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Bingo!
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They hardly take any vaccines in the Ukraine. They certainly didn't have the flu vaccine and even now they are only giving the vaccine to the unaffected eastern regions as it is too late in the west.

Something may well have been released into the atmosphere there but it is still passing person to person and crossing borders. Don't fall into the trap of believing that if you avoid the vaccine you will be safe because even if the vaccine causes a more pathogenic flu, that flu will still pass to the unvaccinated.



well you take the vaccine then,on your body shall be it!


I am not taking it,i have met people who have the flu jab and are ill with flu for 6 months solid,anyone who trusts the science world is stupid


The science world is mental,they are taking vitamins out of food and injecting animals will roids saying its "healthy" they are fucking crazy evil bastards

btw


The flu jab is wide spread in the Ukraine,get your facts right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 739402


I am anti-vaccine myself but if vaccine causes mutation the you will catch it from a vaccinated person, so you still aren't safe.

My facts are right, perhaps you should check yours.

"Mistake three: Unprotected doctors

Why have the doctors turned out to be unprotected? Knowing about the swine flu pandemic, and that it would hit us in autumn, why did the doctors who are 100 percent exposed to the virus failed to be vaccinated in September?

Ukraine has no vaccine, even for doctors. That’s why now, in the middle of an epidemic, the doctors will be the first ones to have to stay in bed and receive patients with runny noses. Why couldn’t we order the vaccine for doctors at least?

Because after what has been done to the concept of vaccination, after the barbarian, unworthy and uncivilized anti-vaccination campaign, nobody could even imagine that some new vaccine could be imported with a sped-up registration procedure, with no repeat clinical trials. By the way, people have rushed to get vaccinated en masse in the last few days: it turned out everyone suddenly starts to like vaccination as soon as there is a threat of disease."

[link to www.kyivpost.com]
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Look all, i do not know what to think myself too.
The NWO propaganda is driving this hype, i think.
Mysterious are the ways of these complete assholes...
I have plenty of relatives and friends in ukraine who, if there was something very sinister going on, would have broke the news to me. When I mention what we KNOW, they just tell me to relax, for it is not that big deal from their perspective in ukrine.
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It must be dumb-down Monday on here.

If this was part of the "Get vaccinated" fear campaign then it would be on all the tv news stations. Go ask your neighbour if the situation in the Ukraine makes them want to get vaccinated and watch them look blank. Most people have no idea about the situation in Eastern Europe.
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This while hyping of this is some kind of pro vaccine fear mongering.
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It must be dumb-down Monday on here.

If this was part of the "Get vaccinated" fear campaign then it would be on all the tv news stations. Go ask your neighbour if the situation in the Ukraine makes them want to get vaccinated and watch them look blank. Most people have no idea about the situation in Eastern Europe.
 Quoting: Nightshade


its a dummy run to scare people in the Ukraine to take the vaccine


they are putting the fear in the people,they are babbling about total destruction of the lungs,babbling about arresting people for not wearing surgical masks,babbling that the vaccine will save lifes,puttting adverts on TV,take the vaccine,take the vaccine


Its just the are testing Ukraine,we are next for the bullsh1t to be rammmed down our throats
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[link to rising.globalvoicesonline.org]

Is it not more likely that this is tuberculosis - known to cause lung destruction.
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They are testing Ukraine,we are next for the bullsh1t to be rammmed down our throats
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The same techniques they are using in the Ukraine,will be used on other countries like the UK and united states


so called scientific experts(wankers) telling us about total destruction of the lungs,saying 100 million will be dead unless you take the vaccine,a load of cow dung lies for the masses
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I don't know what is going on in the Ukraine but just in case, exactly what does one do to panic? I have never panicked in my life and am not sure how to do it.


What precisely should one do in order to panic over a flu? Run screaming in the streets? Jump off of tall buildings? I am not sure many of us are even capable of panic.
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I don't know what is going on in the Ukraine but just in case, exactly what does one do to panic? I have never panicked in my life and am not sure how to do it.


What precisely should one do in order to panic over a flu? Run screaming in the streets? Jump off of tall buildings? I am not sure many of us are even capable of panic.
 Quoting: Bluebird



wait untill the vaccine campaign starts in your country


In the Ukraine people are sh1tting themselves,in a busy place when someone coughs people wet themselves,before the campaigne started 70% wouldnt take the stupid vaccine,now its over 90%(see how effective they are)


The TV is blaring out non stop bullsh1t in Ukraine,take the vaccine or die,blah,blah,blah
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One would think that there would be more deaths by now with an estimated 900,000 people infected, if it is a plague some sort? It just doesn't make sense.

I read that one person heard from their relatives in Ukraine and they said not to worry. What are other people hearing from the citizens of Ukraine?

It is also strange that their President suffered a poisoning before he was elected and now this is going on.
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It must be dumb-down Monday on here.

If this was part of the "Get vaccinated" fear campaign then it would be on all the tv news stations. Go ask your neighbour if the situation in the Ukraine makes them want to get vaccinated and watch them look blank. Most people have no idea about the situation in Eastern Europe.


its a dummy run to scare people in the Ukraine to take the vaccine


they are putting the fear in the people,they are babbling about total destruction of the lungs,babbling about arresting people for not wearing surgical masks,babbling that the vaccine will save lifes,puttting adverts on TV,take the vaccine,take the vaccine


Its just the are testing Ukraine,we are next for the bullsh1t to be rammmed down our throats
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 739402


The trouble with that theory is that they are not providing Western Ukraine with the vaccine. They have some vaccine for the, as yet, unaffected Eastern Ukraine and there may well be a rush to get it.

The flu has crossed into Poland but the Polish govt have refused to buy the vaccine at all. The PM says it has not been tested properly and Poland got tainted vaccine that killed homeless men, previously.

The point of the post is to show that the flu is becoming more virulent and that regardless of whether people take the vaccine or not we should prepare for massive disruption, closed schools, shops and possibly whole areas quarantined.

Don't get the vaccine but do try to avoid infection and DO stock up on all essential supplies.
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I don't know what is going on in the Ukraine but just in case, exactly what does one do to panic? I have never panicked in my life and am not sure how to do it.


What precisely should one do in order to panic over a flu? Run screaming in the streets? Jump off of tall buildings? I am not sure many of us are even capable of panic.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Get supplies. Imagine you are going on a camping trip for a month with no access to shops and buy accordingly.





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