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This is real.What it is is the reanimated 1918 Spanish Flu. Baxter unleashed it in Europe.
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The key is the change in virus in Ukraine. They are keeping back the data because they know very well that if the flu virus mutated enough that their vaccines would become useless against it, and how will they sell their product if that happens?
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The key is the change in virus in Ukraine. They are keeping back the data because they know very well that if the flu virus mutated enough that their vaccines would become useless against it, and how will they sell their product if that happens?
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The H1N1 vaccine will enhance the cytokene storm from the Reanimated Spanish Flu of 1918. It's here again and this will not end well.
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This flu thing in the Ukraine is smelling like BS.

There is no major videos coming out of the country ~ the major news outlet are very pro-forma and even quiet on the subject. So far, only 144 deaths reported over the whole country.

From the internet buzz you'd think the whole country was coughing up bloody lungs. This is the 'panic' TPTB wanted the world to generate.

Don't buy into it.


:bsbag:
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Oh yeh right, unless we hear it on CNN, it doesn't exist. Well you can live in your own private world DaJavoo, but those of us who like to know what's really going on will continue to read up on this at GLP.
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It's really not just in the Ukraine, deaths are spiking all over. Ukraine reported it's first death on October 29th when only a couple of thousand were in hospital. There are now over 50,000 in hospital so if deaths are actually going to be accurately reported then they will increase massively.
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The red flag here is that fact that this alleged outbreak of H1N1 flu virus in Ukraine is killing people within a week.
Why? Most deaths from the flu occur from complications. Seven days sounds way too quick for the lungs to be totally destroyed. Especially when even the CDC said that this was more mild than the seasonal flu. What are the statistics of flu destroying lungs and causing death within seven days? What causes the victims to cough up blood so quickly after contracting this virus?
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This flu thing in the Ukraine is smelling like BS.

There is no major videos coming out of the country ~ the major news outlet are very pro-forma and even quiet on the subject. So far, only 144 deaths reported over the whole country.

From the internet buzz you'd think the whole country was coughing up bloody lungs. This is the 'panic' TPTB wanted the world to generate.

Don't buy into it.
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Agreed.

When things were going wacko in Iran over the election, there were a million blogs and tweets coming out of that country to substantiate and confirm the rumors. Here in Ukraine, on the other hand, we have almost no independent substantiation of these rumors.

I also call BS.
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"Posted: November 1, 2005


1918 Spanish Flu Offers Clues About Pandemic Viruses

Using tiny pieces of preserved lung tissue and a body frozen in the Alaska tundra, a team of scientists were able to recreate the 1918 Spanish flu virus, an achievement that may help uncover how the current deadly strain of bird flu could become transmittable between humans.

Another team of scientists, led by Terrence Tumpey of the CDC and Adolfo Garcia-Sastre of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City, experimented with the live reconstructed Spanish flu virus and found that mice infected with the microbe died unusually quickly, in three days. The results were published in Science magazine in October 2005."
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They want you to take the vaccine.
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Audio: Oct15 Oct29 Nov2 Nov5 twitter
Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
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Over 2000 Health Care Workers Ill in Ukraine
Recombinomics Commentary 14:34
November 9, 2009

As on 06.11.2009, in Ukraine sick 687 physicians and more than 1500 young specialists. In quarantine areas the incidence ranges from 0.5% to 1.3% of the total number of doctors and from 0.5% to 1.2% of younger professionals. In addition, 4 physicians and 2 junior personnel died as a result of their professional duties.

This situation complicates the already difficult work of physicians who work with the excessive load. In order to support regions with the most complex epidemiological situation, the Ministry of Health of Ukraine formed more than 570 mobile teams, composed of family physicians, pediatricians, infectious disease, anesthesiologists and others. specialists.

The above translation is from a Ukraine Ministry of Health announcement made today. Included are the deaths of 6 health care workers as well as more than 2000 who are ill. These numbers also begin the demonstrate the transmissibility of H1N1 in Ukraine. The latest release has almost 1 million in Ukraine who are symptomatic and almost 50,000 hospitalized. The reported death toll is 155, but there are additional pneumonia deaths that are not classified as influenza/ARI. It is not clear how symptoms in the second group differ from those listed in the government table. Severe cases of H1N1 without fever have been described in other countries, raising concerns that some of the H1N1 pneumonia deaths are being mis-classified.
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This flu thing in the Ukraine is smelling like BS.

There is no major videos coming out of the country ~ the major news outlet are very pro-forma and even quiet on the subject. So far, only 144 deaths reported over the whole country.

From the internet buzz you'd think the whole country was coughing up bloody lungs. This is the 'panic' TPTB wanted the world to generate.

Don't buy into it.


Agreed.

When things were going wacko in Iran over the election, there were a million blogs and tweets coming out of that country to substantiate and confirm the rumors. Here in Ukraine, on the other hand, we have almost no independent substantiation of these rumors.

I also call BS.
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There was a reason for that. The riots were scripted by the US.


'US showed support for protesters in Iran'
Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:22:21 GMT
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US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
The US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says Washington was trying 'behind the scenes' to empower protesters disputing Iran's presidential election.

In an interview with CNN aired on Sunday, Clinton said the US did not openly support the demonstrators since it did not want to act in a way that would allow the Iranian leadership to use the US support to unify the Iranian nation against the protesters.

"Now, behind the scenes, we were doing a lot," Clinton said. "We were doing a lot to really empower the protesters without getting in the way."

"We knew that if we stepped in too soon, too hard ... the leadership would try to use us to unify the country against the protesters."

The former first lady added that the US would not stop supporting those contesting the election results.

Iran became the scene of rallies after the re-election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for another four-year term.

Protests were held mainly in the capital, Tehran, with some of them turning violent and resulting in the deaths of at least 30 people.

Iran accuses Western countries in particular the US and Britain for instigating the post-election protests in the country, calling on them to adopt a policy of non-interference toward the country.
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Belarus, Romania and Afghanistan have all closed their schools.
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NWO experiment to bring everyone together with chips..... hf
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Oh wake up! Ministers are being sacked for actually speaking out about the situation. Ukraine govt has asked for a weeks silence on the subject and Romania, Poland and Belarus are instructed to release no figures or info.

MSM will not touch the story, if it was a NWO fear campaign they would be all over it like a purperic rash.
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Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
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The red flag here is that fact that this alleged outbreak of H1N1 flu virus in Ukraine is killing people within a week.
Why? Most deaths from the flu occur from complications. Seven days sounds way too quick for the lungs to be totally destroyed. Especially when even the CDC said that this was more mild than the seasonal flu. What are the statistics of flu destroying lungs and causing death within seven days? What causes the victims to cough up blood so quickly after contracting this virus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 814187

Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy!
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Is it not more likely that this is tuberculosis - known to cause lung destruction.
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smart post and makes most sense.

if this bug mutated a LOT more people would be dying. unless of course they are and we aren't hearing about it.

as it stands i believe the ones who flaked out early with bloody lungs most likely had pre-existing conditions.

not sure why they don't mention it. i'd be interested to know the results of their autopsies and co-morbidity.
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Is it not more likely that this is tuberculosis - known to cause lung destruction.



smart post and makes most sense.

if this bug mutated a LOT more people would be dying. unless of course they are and we aren't hearing about it.

as it stands i believe the ones who flaked out early with bloody lungs most likely had pre-existing conditions.

not sure why they don't mention it. i'd be interested to know the results of their autopsies and co-morbidity.
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No, TB is bacterial. The doctors were initially trying to treat cases as possible bacterial ARIs and it was the failure of patients to respond that initially caused alarm.
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There is multi-drug resistant tuberculosis in Ukraine.

With the large number of cases the medical system will be very stretched and tuberculosis can be asymptomatic until a secondary infection occurs.

[link to www.globalsecurity.org]

One researcher suggested that many of the apparently healthy young adults who died in 1918 were in fact infected with tuberculosis, explaining the unusually high mortality rates among young adults. Tuberculosis death rates plummeted after 1918, which can be explained by the fact that many TB sufferers died of the flu and therefore were not around to die later, nor to pass the TB bacillus to others.
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This flu thing in the Ukraine is smelling like BS.

There is no major videos coming out of the country ~ the major news outlet are very pro-forma and even quiet on the subject. So far, only 144 deaths reported over the whole country.

From the internet buzz you'd think the whole country was coughing up bloody lungs. This is the 'panic' TPTB wanted the world to generate.

Don't buy into it.


:bsbag:



Agreed

Op has posted NWO propaganda
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OP is just one of the puppets used by TPTB to scare the hell out of people. Dont buy into what these pussies are saying. I'd still not think about getting the jab, not for a second.
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[link to rising.globalvoicesonline.org]

Is it not more likely that this is tuberculosis - known to cause lung destruction.



smart post and makes most sense.

if this bug mutated a LOT more people would be dying. unless of course they are and we aren't hearing about it.

as it stands i believe the ones who flaked out early with bloody lungs most likely had pre-existing conditions.

not sure why they don't mention it. i'd be interested to know the results of their autopsies and co-morbidity.
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According to reports, most of the fatal cases in Ukraine are from young, previously healthy people.
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This is NOT a plague. It is being done using the HAARP mechanism which covers the globe.
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it was designed to do that.
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Is it not more likely that this is tuberculosis - known to cause lung destruction.



smart post and makes most sense.

if this bug mutated a LOT more people would be dying. unless of course they are and we aren't hearing about it.

as it stands i believe the ones who flaked out early with bloody lungs most likely had pre-existing conditions.

not sure why they don't mention it. i'd be interested to know the results of their autopsies and co-morbidity.


According to reports, most of the fatal cases in Ukraine are from young, previously healthy people.
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The long dreaded mutation?
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When things were going wacko in Iran over the election, there were a million blogs and tweets coming out of that country to substantiate and confirm the rumors. Here in Ukraine, on the other hand, we have almost no independent substantiation of these rumors. I also call BS.

There was a reason for that. The riots were scripted by the US.
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So ... according to you ... people don't blog or tweet about stuff going on in their own backyard unless the USA encourages them to? Bull. It would occur all on its own if this was really happening.

No blogs + no tweets = not real.
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UKRAINE POLICE REMOVED MEDICAL RECORDS FROM HOSPITALS!!
PEOPLE DYING 4 TO 7 DAYS OF ONSET OF SICKNESS


This is Definitely a WTF - QUESTION!! WHY Are the Police REMOVING The Medical Records? Now it Shows - they ARE HIDING THE REAL INFORMATION!

In this press article - the Ukraine Health Minister almost says What it really is!! He says Death is in 4 to 7 days of patients!! (If that is the case - then the amount Dead is Much more than listed) Also he tells the hospitals to copy all files now - because of the Police taking the records!

This is the MOST TELLING RELEASE OF ALL!!

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Clinical expert commission MZ of Ukraine analyzed information on 90 cases of patients who died of bilateral COMMUNITY-ACQUIRED PNEUMONIA and primary care 39-documentation you sick of this category. Про це повідоми&#108​3;и під час селектор&#108​5;ої наради МОЗ України під головува&#108​5;ням Міністра охорони здоров'я України Василя Князевич&#107​2;. This was reported during the telephone conference of Health of Ukraine headed by Minister of Health of Ukraine Vasily Knyazevich.

Перевірк&#107​2; Контроль&#108​5;о-експерт&#​1085;ої комісії дозволил&#107​2; системно проаналі&#107​9;увати перебіг захворюв&#107​2;нь, що закінчил&#108​0;сь важкими наслідка&#108​4;и, та засвідчи&#108​3;а, що в історіях хвороб подеколи був незадові&#108​3;ьно прописан&#108​0;й анамнез. Check monitoring system allowed the expert committee to review the progress of disease that ended the severe consequences, and showed that in the history of disease was sometimes poorly prescribed history.

Міністр охорони здоров'я України Василь Князевич під час селектор&#108​5;ої наради звернувс&#110​3; до медичної громади з прохання&#108​4; у цей складний період більш уважно поставит&#108​0;сь до ведення медичної документ&#107​2;ції, аби запобігт&#108​0; звинувач&#107​7;нням у наданні неякісно&#111​1; допомоги. Health Minister of Ukraine Vasyl Knyazevich during the conference call asked the medical community with the request at this difficult time more vigilant in keeping medical records, to avoid charges of providing substandard care. "Вже сьогодні правоохо&#108​8;онними органами вилучаєт&#110​0;ся медична документ&#107​2;ція, тож я вас прошу, аби ми не мали "справ лікарів" ретельно поставте&#108​9;ь до виконанн&#110​3; своїх обов'язкі&#10​74;, в тому числі й щодо "паперово&#11​11; роботи". Я розумію, в яких складних умовах зараз працюють медики, для життя хворого цінність має кожна хвилина, але ще раз закликаю дотримув&#107​2;тись всіх формальн&#108​0;х речей". "Already today, police removed medical records, so I ask you, so we did not have" cases doctors "carefully postavtes his duties, including on" paperwork. "I understand where difficult conditions are now physicians, patient value for life is every minute, but once again calls for the respect of all the formal stuff. В. Князевич наголоси&#107​4;, що за умови вилученн&#110​3; документ&#111​0;в, у лікарні повинна залишати&#108​9;я їх копія, яка дозволит&#110​0; іншим фахівцям-&#10​84;едикам, профільн&#108​6;му міністер&#108​9;тву зробити власний висновок. V. Knyazevich noted that if removal of documents, the hospital should remain a copy of them to allow other medical specialists, ministries make their own conclusion.

Як засвідчи&#108​3;и результа&#109​0;и аналізу, з 90 померлих осіб найбільш&#109​1; частку становил&#108​0; громадян&#108​0; молодого, працезда&#109​0;ного віку: 52 особи віком від 19 до 40 років, 26 осіб померло у віці 41-55 років, інші випадки припадаю&#109​0;ь на людей похилого віку та дітей. As analysis showed, with 90 dead people constituted the largest proportion of young people, working age: 52 people aged 19 to 40 years, 26 people died at the age of 41-55 years, other cases have been reported in the elderly and children.

Симптоми, які спостері&#107​5;ались на різних етапах захворюв&#107​2;ння, - це лихоманк&#107​2; з температ&#109​1;рою більше 38 С, кашель, розлади дихання. The symptoms are observed at different stages of disease - a fever with a temperature over 38 C, cough, respiratory disorders. При кашлі було характер&#108​5;им мізерне виділенн&#110​3; мокроти або сухий непродук&#109​0;ивний кашель з вкраплен&#108​5;ями крові. When cough was characterized by negligible allocation phlegm or dry unproductive cough with blotches of blood. Всі хворі надходил&#108​0; до стаціона&#108​8;у в середньо&#108​4;у через 3-7 днів від початку захворюв&#107​2;ння, перебува&#108​3;и в тяжкому стані. All the patients come to hospital on average by 3-7 days of onset, were in serious condition. Термін часу від початку захворюв&#107​2;ння до смерті в середньо&#108​4;у складав від 4 до 7 днів. Period of time from onset to death averaged from 4 to 7 days. У всіх хворих при надходже&#108​5;ні до стаціона&#108​8;у спостері&#107​5;ались ознаки дихально&#111​1; недостат&#108​5;ості різного ступеня, які швидко наростал&#108​0; та проявлял&#108​0;ся прискоре&#108​5;ням частоти дихання, задишкою та неефекти&#107​4;ністю самостій&#108​5;ого дихання. In all patients during a hospital for signs of respiratory insufficiency of various degrees, which quickly rose and manifested accelerated respiration rate, shortness of breath and effectiveness of independent breathing. Рентгено&#108​3;огічні дослідже&#108​5;ня були виконані на 1-2 добу госпітал&#111​0;зації. X-ray studies were performed on 1-2 day hospitalization. У більшост&#111​0; хворих спостері&#107​5;алось двобічне ураження нижніх часток легенів з подальшо&#110​2; тенденці&#110​8;ю до тотально&#107​5;о ураження. Most patients experienced a double-headed particles of lower lung lesion, followed by a trend towards total destruction.

Всі висновки роботи Клініко-е&#10​82;спертної комісії МОЗ України були обговоре&#108​5;і з експерта&#108​4;и ВООЗ. All the conclusions of Clinical expert commission MZ of Ukraine were discussed with experts from WHO. Міністер&#108​9;твом охорони здоров'я підготов&#108​3;ена та запровад&#107​8;ена уніфіков&#107​2;на форма збору інформац&#111​0;ї, а також алгоритм&#108​0; обстежен&#108​5;я хворих та клінічни&#109​3; протокол&#111​0;в під час подоланн&#110​3; епідемії грипу та пандеміч&#108​5;ого грипу A\H1N1 на територі&#111​1; Україні. Ministry of Health prepared and implemented a unified form of information gathering, as well as algorithms for examination of patients and clinical protocols during the response to the epidemic of influenza and pandemic influenza A \ H1N1 in the territory of Ukraine.

Прес-служ&#10​73;а МОЗ України Press Service of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine
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When things were going wacko in Iran over the election, there were a million blogs and tweets coming out of that country to substantiate and confirm the rumors. Here in Ukraine, on the other hand, we have almost no independent substantiation of these rumors. I also call BS.

There was a reason for that. The riots were scripted by the US.

So ... according to you ... people don't blog or tweet about stuff going on in their own backyard unless the USA encourages them to? Bull. It would occur all on its own if this was really happening.

No blogs + no tweets = not real.
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There are lots of blogs and tweets but I don't speak the language, so they are harder to find and you have to translate each one before you know it's relevance.

With the Iran situation they were very kindly blogging in perfect English, for our delectation.

A lot of what I have posted is translated ans says as much but searching for individual tweets is another matter.

Found one.

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31st October 2009, 23:40
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Lviv deserted
Approximately every 10th person is ill in Lviv.
400 policemen were infected during the last 2 days in the Lviv region
2 doctors died in Lviv.
Schools, Universities, markets closed.
Public events cancelled.
Streets deserted.
Pharmacies empty,
Poland has sent us humanitry aid - including safety masks and medications
Today, President Yushenko prayed in St Geroge Cathedral in Lviv for Ukrainians' health
Wake Up
Let Me Off This Crazy Ride!!

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Re: BREAKING! Total destruction of lungs in Ukraine fatal H!N1 Update! WHO silent on sequences. Deaths 174
This flu thing in the Ukraine is smelling like BS.

There is no major videos coming out of the country ~ the major news outlet are very pro-forma and even quiet on the subject. So far, only 144 deaths reported over the whole country.

From the internet buzz you'd think the whole country was coughing up bloody lungs. This is the 'panic' TPTB wanted the world to generate.

Don't buy into it.


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Re: BREAKING! Total destruction of lungs in Ukraine fatal H!N1 Update! WHO silent on sequences. Deaths 174

UKRAINE POLICE REMOVED MEDICAL RECORDS FROM HOSPITALS!!
PEOPLE DYING 4 TO 7 DAYS OF ONSET OF SICKNESS


This is Definitely a WTF - QUESTION!! WHY Are the Police REMOVING The Medical Records? Now it Shows - they ARE HIDING THE REAL INFORMATION!

In this press article - the Ukraine Health Minister almost says What it really is!! He says Death is in 4 to 7 days of patients!! (If that is the case - then the amount Dead is Much more than listed) Also he tells the hospitals to copy all files now - because of the Police taking the records!

This is the MOST TELLING RELEASE OF ALL!!

Link Article:

[link to translate.googleusercontent.com]


Good catch! apart from the translate cut and paste, lol!

The link works fine.
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11/09/2009 01:18 PM
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Re: BREAKING! Total destruction of lungs in Ukraine fatal H!N1 Update! WHO silent on sequences. Deaths 174
This flu thing in the Ukraine is smelling like BS.

There is no major videos coming out of the country ~ the major news outlet are very pro-forma and even quiet on the subject. So far, only 144 deaths reported over the whole country.

From the internet buzz you'd think the whole country was coughing up bloody lungs. This is the 'panic' TPTB wanted the world to generate.

Don't buy into it.


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Yes I know!!

Because the whole world visits these forums......NOT

and it's all over Fox, Sky, CNN etc etc..........NOT

and it's a trending topic on Twitter.............NOT

In my opinion if you wanted mass panic then it would be a good idea to make sure that most people knew about it. Most people have heard nothing about it.
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Re: BREAKING! Total destruction of lungs in Ukraine fatal H!N1 Update! WHO silent on sequences. Deaths 174
There are ukranian blogs and tweets and boards talking about the situation in Ukraine, but they're mostly in Ukranian or Russian, so we won't understand them.

Some days ago, someone posted here the news about an ukranian blogger being arrested by the police because of his posts about the epidemic. They were in english. Few people will take the risk of informing people after that.





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