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Message To The American Police Officer

 
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Message To The American Police Officer
Message To The
American Police Officer
By J. Croft
3-26-5


Ever feel like a tool?

Ever feel like an ass enforcing a arbitrary speed limit with the same force as you would chasing away drug dealers and creepy trench coated old men from elementary schools? Ever wonder what the hell you or your partner were doing arresting that victim of criminal assault - ever wonder what you were doing making that assault? Making an anthill into a ´prosecutable´ mountain so that your partner, or God forbid, yourself, can make a collar? Or standing by and stonewalling a desperate person pleading for your help, turning them away so that they go over the edge and create another bust or two for yourself?

Ever feel like part of the problem, even though you´re told that you´re part of the solution? Well, thank God you at least feel some responsibility for what you and your ´brother officers´ have done to help destroy America.

That´s right; modern American policing is destroying America. It´s a preening cult of overtestosteroned man-children; ´cowboys´ looking for the slightest excuse to wreck some lives to make bustsÖ for the ´law´.

And who do you wind up sending to the disease-ridden homosexual rape camps known as prison? Poor white, black, and brown trash deliberately dumbed down and corrupted by a covertly communist education system and mass media

You´re rousting the wrong people-while the criminal rich steal from us all. The criminal rich who are behind the shows that you recoil in disgust atÖ if you still can recoil in disgust.

The criminal rich who back the foundations and unions who have long ago transformed American education into a manufacturer of adult children-unable to think for themselves, ignorant of their heritage of Freedom and God, conditioned into having a programmed hostility towards knowledge and those who still value it despite the programming.

The criminal rich who have over the decades progressively made living in America a desperate struggle for survival as the jobs that can still sustain that seductive lie known once as the ´American dream´ are sent overseas to poor Chinese and Indians who will NEVER know of it.

The criminal rich who are mass produced by this nation´s overabundant law universities and become the trial lawyers, judges and representatives. The same pack of lawyer rat bastards who have literally downed entire forests to print all the bureaucracy that has killed all the joy of being a Free Man in America and given you ´peace officers´ a cornucopia of ´law´ to ´enforce´.

Law

A rich man´s game as it takes a rich man to go through eight years of law school and college and a hundred grand in tuition to become a lawyer. A move to keep as much of the people the laws are targeted against from learning their convoluted rules as possible, and still maintain this fiction that their ´laws´ come from the People.

It hasn´t sunk in that the law is one of America´s worst rackets?

Let me run down a few catagories for you; see if they mesh with what America is supposed to be...

Traffic Laws

These are nominally to keep about two hundred million motorists safe on the road, they´ve long ago been turned into a vile source of revenue and colossal waste of police resources. A vile source of revenue as it´s a fear based tax based mostly on driving habit, and a colossal waste as traffic detail ties down you guys-who could be investigating shady folks like Ken Lay of Enron, or tracking down who´s really bringing more and more dope into the country. Or even something as picayune as the corruption of the local government-which cuts your paycheck. But it´s a lot easier to play with some hapless Citizen than any local power broker who could break you, isn´t it?

DUI

Used to be you had to be honestly drunk and a threat to get pulled over for this. Now, it´s past overkill; the new drunk laws can mean a single beer and you´re screwed. That and your Goddamn checkpoints are killing off being able to go out. This is one of the few outlets Americans seem to have left, and what do we find-a gauntlet of you bust hungry bastards to run through. "Thanks".

And if you´re homeless! These lawyer made ´anti-vagrancy´ laws mean if a American loses their job, winds up sleeping in their car or on the street, you guys roll on them and give them a ticket to the nearest homosexual rape palace-which you call the county jail. What the hell did these people do besides come out losing in a increasingly hostile economy? They drink and take drugs, yes-you would too if you were cast to the bottom of a socio-economic pit you have no hope of climbing out of.

Persecuting crime victims for protecting themselves; too many of you get mortally offended when average folks use a gun to prevent their own mortal demise. You see anyone but a fellow bureaucrat armed, and it´s like he or she might as well have raped schoolchildren with you. You forget the Bill of Rights recognizes each and every one of us has the God given Right to armed self defense? What is about the very thought of the People being able to match you in firepower that scares you? Are you looking at all of us as opponents?

Are you that twisted, that brainwashed by that perverted cop culture you´ve swan dived into that your fellow Americans are your enemy? Are you even aware that you are brainwashed, conditioned into being the razor edge of the spear of totalitarianism that´s being thrust into the very heart of our People?

What does freedom mean to you?

Does it mean anything? Or is it just another word?

Does it mean an ever increasing stranglehold of ´laws´ that just give power to the state and it´s bureaucrats in a piecemeal fashion, so as to not arouse righteous opposition?

Do these laws reflect the respect for you as a free person? Do they protect us all from a evermore invasive and belligerent government?

Does more bureaucracy not expose the people to more and more pushy, uppity, obnoxiously authoritarian small minded cretins in cheap suits-given way too much power? And, if more bureaucrats are a threat to all of our livelihoods and freedom, then doesn´t it make sense that more laws and regulations would only give these white collar scumbags just that many more excuses to rob us of what is rightly ours?

Wouldn´t LESS LAW be better for a free society?

You know the answers. You also know that the lawyers are not going to have a sudden change of heart and start reversing all the damage done to our nation. You also know that most bureaucrats are not going to look at a person and a rule and not enforce it.

So that leaves one person left, one safeguard remaining from the state confronting another innocent vitcim-you.

YOU are the people´s last line of defense from a out of control state!

It´s your choice: stand with the People or stand against them!

The time is NOW to choose! More tyrannical law is being passed by more and more tyrannical lawyers and other sycophant bureaucrats. Enforced by tyrannical bureaucrats mistakenly armed and sworn, they cause more and more people to HATE YOU. This added hatred, along with the increasingly technostalinist bent of our "laws" will make YOU a TARGET for those unable to "cope" with the loss of their Freedom. A target literally.

For the sake of our Children, our Nation and your own ability to look in the mirror without recoiling in shame, resist.

How You Can Resist

Get to know your non-cop friends again, and your neighbors. You probably let those relationships go bye-bye when you bought into the crap that cops are "a breed apart". The people you joined the force to ´serve and protect´; and you view them as scum?

Your mindset will be the first obstacle to overcome, but since you´re reading this you´re hopefully already on that road. The ´cop culture´ like most aspects of American culture is managed by it´s own ´gatekeepers´ who serve an Agenda-to fill your discipline and duty oriented mind with all sorts of psychological cues that herd you into being a insufferable elitist.

Yeah, that´s what that ´they´ want-there´s always a ´they´ around to ruin it for everyone. You blindly enforcing laws which oppress everyone. ´They´ fill you with pride in your profession, give you a cool looking uniform, all sorts of means to carry out your job-and you get guns! All of which are but bait-egotistical masturbation.

Assaulting this egotistical masturbation is your first duty, assaulting your ´brother officers´ programming as you can is your second duty. There is a line, and it´s different with each individual, but it basically is their patience at listening to you challenge what they´ve been programmed with. Don´t count on getting them to see the light quick, as you know the programming´s thorough and very deep. Don´t push too much, and use examples you come across. This is a war-not a battle.

Your third duty: shielding the People as best you can from the ravages of the laws lawyers pass. Look into your heart-if you are with God, you will know which laws are sensible(stopping murder, rape, robbery, reckless drivers, crack dealers selling to grade school kids). The rest(niggling regulations, laws that rob people of their rights) must not be enforced. They must be IGNORED.

Ignoring as best you can, because your supervisors watch you to make certain you do your job as proscribed by them. You´re in a bad spot, and sometimes you will be forced to pick your battles. Sometimes you won´t be able to directly help someone about to get steamrolled by the state. You´ll have to surreptitiously get evidence of their innocence and get it to a attorney willing to fight for their freedom. Sometimes you´ll encounter a scumbag son of a bitch-who´s shielded by the local powers-that-be. That person might even wear the same badge and uniform as you. Here is where you shall have a real gut check: what if there isn´t a way to stop this bastard legally? What if this state sanctioned criminal plants dope to cause a raid and asset forfeiture seizure? What if this human sized cockroach is going to whack a ´troublemaker´; someone working for Freedom just like you?

How far will you go to do something about it? And can you do it smarter-as in being able to get away with it? There are people who know of these things, and one or two even wrote books on the subject if you can´t get a hold of that someone. Beyond that I dare not say what you should do, except that it needs doing, and nobody´s doing it at all.

There´s more you can do; a lot more. You can do this under a alias or not, but it´s my wish you cops would start showing the People on a individual and community level how they can defend themselves from the bureaucratic predators. How to get around the bureaucrats, and who among them are still patriots. There are bad and good in every walk of life, and if bureaucrats can see that they too can join in renewing freedom, this struggle shall end in victory that much faster! Motivating them as officers to actually stand up and as a group demand that laws start getting scrapped. Tell them that they wouldn´t have so many cops and bureaucrats in their lives if there weren´t so many laws for them to enforce. Make it plain that their lives will NEVER get better if they let themselves keep being hypnotized by that electronic narcotic called the TV.

Teach the People how to physically defend themselves and their communities. Yes, if you love freedom this would include the safe and effective use of firearms and when to do it. Your police and military training makes you a natural choice to teach the People. Yes, this incurs the risk of being labeled a ´militia´, but for hundreds of years the gathering of all able bodied adults in case of a collective danger was a key part of American civilization. They organized and drilled and shot their rifles in public square it was that enshrined. It was when a permanent, standing US Army and a permanent standing professional police force that the Citizen´s Militia quietly faded away from American public life.

The militia isn´t a bad thing actually. If you actually read the older historical accounts there are examples-like during the 1800´s when the James Gang got cut to pieces in Minnesota; the townsfolk got their guns and resisted, and won. Likewise, in Athens, Tennessee in 1946; returning GI´s tried to win a local election to clean the crooks that had been running the town into the ground for decades. The crooks attempted to rig the election and went so far as to hide in the jail and shoot at gunpoint anyone who tried to stop them. The GI´s borrowed some National Guard rifles and shot it out with them, and won. More recently, a few years ago, the State of New York attempted to enforce cigarrette taxes on a Native American Tribe and came with dozens of State Troopers; the entire Tribe greeted them with muzzles of their assault riflesÖ the Governor wisely negotiated a compromise.

So that´s the point: collective resistance works! And it doesn´t and shouldn´t if at all possible have to be violent. A second hand personal story: days after the Columbine massacre a public school mandated ID tags for every studentÖ obstensivly to stop a massacre. A bunch of them got together and smuggled in water guns painted to look like real guns, and objects made to look like sticks of dynamite. They presented them to the principal and asked him if ID tags stopped them from bringing in their made up weapons, and would it stop real weapons from getting inÖ the ideal was scrapped.

Peaceful noncompliance works if done en masse. The emphasis should be first local; pushing back the bureaucracies that strangle our lives. Start small, always, and build on that. First you and your people could do something like get the parking meters removed. Then build on that with pushing back niggling housing codes. Your weapons are your wallets; collectively threaten to wage a tax strike, or a labor strike(don´t forget to prepare with extra cash and food).

Then expand to strike at the big oppressions; property taxes, traffic laws, anti-constitutional gun bans, drivers licenses and car plates, caps on laws made. Each victory builds on itself and similar advances made by other like minded individuals. YOU can lead this; you have the drilled in discipline, social standing and leadership, AND, you know something of the dirty tricks the bureaucrats and traitor cops will pull to stop us. You´re in a position to protect this necessary revolution. YesÖ a revolution to win back what our ancestors gave all for over two centuries ago.

Together we can resist and win back our freedom. Our first obstacle to unifying as a people is to overcome our racial and caste barriers-and as a cop, you are part of a casteÖ call it the enforcement caste, made up of bureaucrats and law enforcement. You as a American must reach out to those that have been maneuvered and manipulated to be your intended enemies, the working and underclass castes-the people you´re sent out to roust for fines and make busts on.

Unite with them, because our enemies are the lawyer caste that makes and judges on the ´laws´ they make, and the caste of the super rich. These people buy the lawyers out, and have systematically looted America of our industry, our technology, our prosperity, and by their house slave lawyers, bureaucrats, and cops, our freedoms. They´ve reduced us Americans to being a military state-our real economy, our society propped up on a life support of debt that they, the super rich can yank with but a few manipulations of their financial markets. They will most likely do this in a manner much like yanking the cord on life support for a dying manÖ which is what America is.

They want the world, and have used America to trample any and all opponents. They now look to use the last allotted strength of America´s military might to batter the nations of Earth into a global empire run by them-with America to be consumed by economic and political collapse and a engineered multi-front civil war NOBODY but the super rich will win. And that´s why you acting NOW to begin fighting for Freedom must be your one priority. This war we are in, it´s bigger than one individual or family or community. But if you don´t join the fight, you make victory for us all that much more difficult, and how will you face God with THAT crime on you?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Ive been a cop for 6 years.

All this retoric you go blabbing about is not new. Weve heard it all before. Last year a good friend of mine was shot and killed on a "routine"stop. Everyone of us are putting our lives on the line everyday to protect people like you. We dont expect gratitude and we do it for a very minimal salary. And even though you seem to have such negative feelings about me and my Blue Brothers I will still be there for you when you call.


With that said we are also human, and there are good and bad humans all over this world. But for the majority that I can speak for they are the best kinds of people.

We are selfless and non expecting.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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cops are tax collectors nothing more.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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AC 5409.

Put your gun in you´re mouth and pull.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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You can hate us if you want to but one day without us and you will be begging us to go back to work.
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12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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5409.

You and your kind are not worth hating. You´re
sinply the scabs of humanity.

Tasered any five years olds lately?

Fuck you.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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1636

You are a coward nothing more.

Have a nice life.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"What is about the very thought of the People being able to match you in firepower that scares you? Are you looking at all of us as opponents?"

Well there´s an interesting story behind this question.

Let´s see if I can remember all the types of people a "cop" might run into through the course of his work day.

Victim, yep they run into victims fairly often.
Perpetrator, yep they run into perpatrators fairly often too.
Suspect, well that´s about it, other than.
Cop.

Where is the word that describes innocent and nont involved PEOPLE? In the day of a cop everyone in the city the cop is in falls into one or more of those 4 words.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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bump
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Where is the word that describes innocent and nont involved PEOPLE? In the day of a cop everyone in the city the cop is in falls into one or more of those 4 words.


The word your looking gor is bistander.
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The Police Contact: Silence Is Golden
By Carl F. Worden


I have debated writing this article for months. I am a strong supporter of law enforcement, and I have an extensive background in law enforcement. Even now, I have a number of conflicts which cause me great concern with how the information I am about to impart to you will be used. I do not want to enable the criminals in our society to thwart justice, but I am committed to protecting the innocent from what appears to be an explosion of police abuse. In a case like this, I choose to protect the citizens.

I will start with law enforcement contacts with regard to traffic stops for suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

The Fifth Amendment of the Bill of Rights states that we are not to be forced to incriminate ourselves. The actual wording is that you cannot be "compelled" to be a witness against yourself. If you are stopped for suspicion of DUI, these are your rights, regardless of the laws of your state.

First, you are to deny having consumed any alcoholic beverages whatsoever. You are never to admit to having one or two drinks. If you admit to consuming even one drop of alcohol, you open the door to probable cause, allowing the police officer to search your vehicle for open containers. Next, you are never to submit to a field sobriety test. You are to refuse to do so. They cannot make you walk the line, balance or anything else. If arrested, you are to refuse to allow a blood or breath test, regardless of what state law requires, such as revocation of driving privileges for a period of time. That is an attempt to compel you to be a witness against yourself. Supreme Court decisions in this area are quite specific with regard to your rights as follows:

Lefkowitz v. Turley, 94 S. Ct. 316, 414 U.S. 70 (19 73). "The Fifth Amendment provides that no person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself. The Amendment not only protects the individual against being involuntarily called as a witness against himself in a criminal prosecution but also privileges him not to answer official questions put to him in any other proceeding civil or criminal formal or informal, where the answers might incriminate him in future criminal proceedings."

McCarthy v. Arndstein 266 U.S. 34, 40, 45 S. Ct. 16, 17, 69 L.Ed 158 (1924) , squarely held that "the privilege is not ordinarily dependent upon the nature of the proceeding in which the testimony is sought or is to be used. It applies alike to civil and criminal proceedings, wherever the answer might tend to subject to criminal responsibility him who gives it. The privilege protects a mere witness as fully as it does one who is a party defendant." Maness v. Myers, 95 S Ct. 584, 419 US 449 (1975).

"...where the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination is Involved ... This Court has always construed its protection to ensure that an individual is not compelled to produce evidence which later may be used against him as an accused in a criminal action... The protection does not merely encompass evidence which may lead to criminal conviction, but includes information which would furnish a link in the chain of evidence that could lead to prosecution, as well as evidence which an individual reasonably believes could be used against him in a criminal prosecution. Hoffman v. United States, 341 US. 479, 486, 71 S. Ct. 814, 818, 95 L. Ed. 1] 18 (1951) . "

"In Kastigar v. United States, 406 U S 441, 92 S Ct. 1653, 32 LEd. 212 (1972) , we recently reaffirmed the principle that the privilege against self incrimination can be asserted in any proceeding, civil or criminal, administrative or judicial, investigatory or adjudicatory. Id., at 444, 92 S.Ct., at 1656; Lefkowitz v. Turley, 414 US. 70, 77, 94 S. Ct. 316, 322, 38 L.Ed. 2d 274 (1973)...

Miranda v. Arizona, 86 S.Ct. 1602, 384 US 436 (1966) . "We have recently noted that the privilege against self-incrimination --- the essential mainstay of our adversary system-is founded on a complex of values ... To maintain a fair state individual balance, to require the government to shoulder the entire load ... to respect the inviolability of the human personality, our accusatory system of criminal justice demands that the government seeking to punish an individual produce the evidence against him by its own independent labors, rather than by the cruel, simple expedient of compelling it from his own mouth... ln sum, the privilege is fulfilled only when the person is guaranteed the right to remain silent unless he chooses to speak in the unfettered exercise of his own will."

"...there can be no doubt that the Fifth Amendment privilege is available outside. of criminal court proceedings and serves to protect persons in all settings in which their freedom of action is curtailed in any significant way from being compelled to incriminate themselves."

Please also note: The above, as stated by the Supreme Court, are rights and privileges as guaranteed by the Constitution, and anyone (including judges) who knowingly violates those rights may be civilly and criminally liable under several federal statutes. Please see: United States Code, Title 18 Section 241 (Conspiracy against rights), and Section 242 (Deprivation of rights under color of law); Title 42 Section 1983 - Section 1986 (Civil Rights). Most attempts to pursue action under these laws fail, but very skilled litigators with good factual circumstances can sometimes get some satisfaction. However, if more individuals were to understand the above rights and exercise them at the appropriate times, more successful litigation could be the outcome.

Okay, you got that? You cannot be forced to provide evidence against yourself, therefore you must not allow any tests whatsoever, be it field sobriety "walking the line", or a blood or breath test. Period. If you will follow these instructions, they have no case against you and they are also barred from taking away your driving privileges under the same Supreme Court rulings.

Now to more serious matters: If you are contacted as a possible suspect, or even a witness, in any other law enforcement investigation, you are to say nothing. You are to say nothing even when your attorney is present. You are to say nothing, regardless of evidence of your guilt as presented by the law enforcement officers. You are not to try to explain away the circumstances of the evidence they present to you. You are to say absolutely nothing. No matter how tempted you are to try to talk your way out of the situation, you are to give them absolutely NOTHING to verify. If they ask you if the sky is blue on a clear day, you are to say nothing. You are to give them nothing whatsoever. Whatever evidence or witness information they have, you are to say nothing. Even denying any of their allegations can be used against you in a prosecution if it is determined later that you obviously lied. You are to stay MUTE.

The reason for this is quite simple: The evidence the law enforcement officers have is all they must be required to work with. Don´t give them anything more. The only time you should consider the option of telling your side of the story is to your attorney in privacy, or in a court of law if prosecuted.

Because you have stayed mute, giving law enforcement nothing in addition to the extrinsic evidence and witness information at hand, the burden of proof available to the district attorney is severely limited and will most often result in a dismissal of charges unless their evidence and witness input is overwhelming and compelling enough for a grand jury to return a bill of indictment. And even if bound over for trial, the jury will be limited to consider only that evidence and witness input.

When you are given your Miranda Rights wherein you are informed that anything you say can and will be used against you, take it to heart: If you say absolutely nothing, NOTHING can and will be used against you in a court of law.

There are literally thousands of people behind bars today who tried to talk their way out of a law enforcement contact. Don´t fall for the ploy. Law enforcement officers are trained to bluff you into making denials or statements. They will appear friendly and reasonable. They will appear willing to help resolve the matter. They will tempt you to talk about it and appear sympathetic. Don´t fall for it. Say nothing. Give them nothing. Deny nothing. Give them NOTHING. Stick your tongue between your teeth and bite down - HARD. You are to be a marble statue. You do not exist. You have no past, you have no address, you have no name, you have no social security number. You are to give them nothing whatsoever to work with.

[link to www.sierratimes.com]

If Martha Stewart had only known her rights and followed these directions .... !
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12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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cops are satanic scumbags

they enforce satanic laws

they are money extortionsists

God will soon Destroy Amerika

I would like to see you scumbag cops fighting off 1 million chinese/russian army when they invade !

hahahaha !!!!

than you can take your tickets and shove them upyour ass before they kill you !!!!!!!

hahaha !!!!!!!
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i feel sorry for you gringoes...

bush is trashing the country.

bush is opening your borders
[link to www.alipac.us]

and the crappy police are at best ´revenue officers´.

if you´re a republiCunt - you´re fcuked. But you keep asking for more.
The Angel
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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"I would like to see you scumbag cops fighting off 1 million chinese/russian army when they invade !"


Only 1 million? Shit. You had me scared for a second. Our street gangs would take that army out in no time.
Not a Sheeple
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User ID: 5409

I can only thank you for your accepting the job that so few truly appreciate. Many on this forum scream about conspiracies (myself included) yet fail to realize that your profession has been vilified by the media (read TPTB) to polarize you from those that you protect in order to control both sides. Many of the talking points presented by the OP are straight from the evening news, not that TV has any effect on our view of reality.

"So, to begin, I want to state the most basic of all facts about brainwashing:

In the entire history of man, no one has ever been brainwashed and REALIZED OR BELIEVED that he had been brainwashed.

Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been "shown the light" ... or have been transformed in miraculous ways."
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police are just assholes----all of them!
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Independent thought is not a requirement to be a cop. In fact, it is discouraged. The hive mind is rewarded. Most cops I know have an IQ below 100
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Next door to me lives an elderly lady with terminal cancer who was beaten up by her husband of 30 years before he left her. Every day an officer of the law comes to the house to check on her. This officer is not on duty when he does this. Nobody asked him to do this. He comes by to check on this lady out of the goodness of his heart. While he is there, he takes care of her pets, makes sure she has eaten that day and that her meds are laid out for the next day. He does this out of a sense of honor, not because it is his job. Sounds like quite the asshole, eh?

We have a saying here...

Know what the difference is between a police officer and a cop? You can respect a police officer.
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What makes a police officer want to become a police officer?

Is it the gun that make them jubilate to the idea of becomming a police officer?

Is it truly because they want to help the population? And if that is true, what were they doing to help the community before they became a police officer?

Is it because there is a lot of job and they basicly take anyone without a criminal record?

I know some went into the force to become organized criminals, i know some personnaly and they are quite happy about the power that was instigated in them.

Is it because when they were young they were looking up to the police officers and they see how the people react when the police force arrives on the scene (respect and all) Theire childhood was filled with rejection and they figured that they would eliminate all form of rejection if they hold the bigger end of the stick?

My cousin is a RCMP, she weights 100 pound and measures 4.9 foot high. She went into the force to feel stronger (her own words)

Police officer beleives they are necessaire. Its an ego thing.
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"That´s right; modern American policing is destroying America. It´s a preening cult of overtestosteroned man-children; ´cowboys´ looking for the slightest excuse to wreck some lives to make bustsÖ for the ´law´."

What an illusion you live in. Police departments are now a reactive agency, whereas they used to be proactive. That isn´t possible anymore. So, police officers are reacting to what YOU the citizen tells them.
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so if I become homeless i can go to homosexual jail? woohoo

Going to go quit my job right now!!
BUSH 04
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Let me start off by saying the following: I am 100% PRO law enforcement. Lets face it, they don´t get paid jack sh*t for getting shot at to save our sorry asses. Period.

BUT>>>>>>>>>>>

There is a creeping problem in America. It is a lack of responsibility. In this case, the police say "we are only enforcing the laws that are created by people that the populace voted in". The politicians say "the police have gone too far, there job is not to make laws".

Frankly, it has always been up to the nuts and bolts person (i.e. the one making the decision, doing the actual work) to make the call. If you know, as a policeman, that regardless of what BS your post commander says about seat belt laws (don´t protect us from ourselves, the state acting as parent...) it is up to you to decide the following:

Your time is better spent busting gang members who kill innocents in their stupidity rather than giving Joe Six Pack another ticket. Joe Six Pack works, pays taxes (which pays your salary), as a family, etc. LEAVE HIM ALONE!! I know that the commander wants the cash from all of those easy tickets, but it is up to you to PROTECT AND SERVE.

No excuses. DO IT.
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12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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AC 5409, while I resent the way police arrest someone for a joint and don´t arrest monsters like Tom Delay, I appreciate the job the majority of you are doing. I know from the experience of a relative that it is a thankless, tiring job.

However, we know bad times are coming, times that will shake the very fabric of our existence. Our own government is turning against us. It has been for quite awhile. My question is this: When the government starts overtly overstepping its bounds, who are you going to protect and serve? Are you going to serve the elite, the money changers, or are you going to protect us, We the People of the United States?
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12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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Well?
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12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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The problem in America is with the people who think like this moron who started this column. Its the people who wrote the laws and its the people who can change the laws. I am sure glad it has to be the majority of people who must vote to change the laws instead of morons like the op who started this column. It is the police who must enforce the laws that the people put on the books...moron...police don´t get much of anything but when you call and need them theyu will be there to assist you whether they like you or not for your stupid ass views.....try being a cop for once..I don´t think you would make it...you would probably get your dumb ass shot the first day on the job!!! when was the last time you helped anyone other than yourself!!!rocket
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A cop-hater is worty of a "tag". applause
REAL Dave nli
12/08/2005 10:15 AM
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OP is right. Truth hurts those who can´t deal with it.
of course, this is a generalization, and in that respect, i´m sure there are a small percentage of cops who are TRYING to do what´s right and not hassle the little guy for the minor things.

In truth, the average street cop has a lower average IQ than your average manager of an Arby´s, and this is done on purpose, because stupid people are easier to order around and will usually not question their superiors.

Cops are HYPOCRITES, as well, because I have seen cops do drugs, get drunk(and drive home), and sell goods taken from people in raids.

They ENJOY their power and the fact that they can get away with things that most people would get thrown in jail for.

All of you saying OP is full of bull are the ones who are TRULY DELUSIONAL. YOU are part of the problem. You are afraid of taking care of yourself and you still believe cops help people. Cops show up(99.99% of the time) AFTER a crime has been committed or AFTER an event happens that harms people. Sure, they do a fine job of clean up, counting bodies, taking names, and filing reports but there is very little real crime fighting going on out there. It´s all a fucking game.

Vice cops are the WORST.

I could go on with stories of my personal experiences, but it won´t mean anything to the cop supporters.

I say EVERYONE NEEDS TO GO BUY A GUN. Protect yourself, your family, your friends. THAT is all the policing we will EVER need.

dave
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bump for clay cats good point.
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AC 5409, I sincerely appreciate for you and your fellow officers of peace and law for putting your lives on the line for the safety and well-being of the society in general. You´re a credit to law enforcement profession, it may not be the greatest job in the world but the most important job as well and a necessity at that.

Without police officers enforcing the public-mandated laws, who will police the community/society to prevent anarchy, lawlessness and chaos? Regular people are highly susceptible to temptations and often falls to the lesser, even malicious, realms of human nature. It´s difficult for regular people at large to police and behave themselves if left unchecked or if other forces or factors cause circumstantial conditions of which to pit people against people, friends against friends, family against family and so on.

The AC assholes here who bashed you and police officers in general are totally screwed-up/brainwashed tools. They only see evil in police officers due to media polarization, popular stereotypes, blatant ignorance and fell into traps made by the malevolent people who despised police officers.

Though, there were some police officers who did the stupid things like taking bribes, breaking their own laws while enforcing, given into corruption, looking the other ways, etc, etc,, these people does a grave disservice to the law enforcement profession. That should be in no way reflected on the vast majority of police officers and state troopers who are good, law-abiding, helpful public servants of the society and the community in general.

I thank you for doing a thankless, difficult job. That´s my gratitude for all police officers out there.
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First, I want to thank the people who choose to become police officers. It is a thankless job and AC 5409 should know that if he went through the academy. But I will say for the record if you are being stalked, the police can do nothing for you until you actually become a victim of the stalker. It really is sad that it has come to this but every woman should take some self-defense classes or be trained in the use of small arms.





GLP