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Some things to look foward to when Khalid Sheikh Mohammed goes on trial in NYC

 
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Some things to look foward to when Khalid Sheikh Mohammed goes on trial in NYC
The last high profile jihadi who went on trial in NYC was Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman




Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman got his commie radical attorney Lynne Stewart, paralegal Ahmed Abdel Sattar, and interpreter Mohamed Yousry to pass messages to his followers urging strikes against the US

He even brokered a cease fire between the Egyptian government(While in a maximum security facility) and a terrorist Islamic Group. Which he later withdrew,he also approved of the hit to kill Fifty-eight foreign tourists in Luxor, Egypt


Pakistani journalist Ismail Khan was given a copy of ‘Blind Sheikh’ Omar Abdul-Rahman’s will by one of his sons, while attending bin Laden’s first and only press conference in May 1998 (see May 26, 1998).(Smuggled out of prison)

He says, “Extract the most violent revenge… Cut off all relations with [the Americans, Christians, and Jews], tear them to pieces, destroy their economies, burn their corporations, destroy their peace, sink their ships, shoot down their planes, and kill them on air, sea, and land. And kill them wherever you may find them, ambush them, take them hostage, and destroy their observatories. Kill these infidels.” [Bergen, 2006, pp. 204-205]

Sheikh’ Omar Abdul-Rahman was considered to be the spiritual leader to UBL
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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And from the UK


Jihadi preacher Abu Hamza is delivering extremist sermons to prisoners through the water pipes of his cell, it has been claimed.

The Muslim cleric is defying a preaching ban imposed by prison bosses to radicalise inmates.

He is able to give his lectures through the plumbing that connects to neighbouring cells in Belmarsh Prison....
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Jihadi preacher Abu Hamza is delivering extremist sermons to prisoners through the water pipes of his cell
 Quoting: mathetes


"Kill all infidels...glug glug...destroy Christians *flush*..."
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Check this out Mathetes:

[link to twitter.com]
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Jailing them won't change their minds, or shut their mouths.

But it WILL keep them in jail. So what's the problem?
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Jihadi preacher Abu Hamza is delivering extremist sermons to prisoners through the water pipes of his cell

"Kill all infidels...glug glug...destroy Christians *flush*..."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 365611

lol

These jihadis crack me up...in the 2 examples listed above we have Capt.Hook played by Abu Hamza and Santa Claus played by Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman


Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman
[link to www.nndb.com]


Abu Hamza
[link to www.pinknews.co.uk]
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Check this out Mathetes:

[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820661

Very cool...thanks for the link!
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isn't this trial the perfect scenario for a terror attack? KSM can be a martyr and more people can be innocently slaughtered while BHO (claims to)know nothing about it?


what a perfect jihad set-up if you think about it..

and I pray it does NOT happen.. things are too loose in this situation..

the reality is who really can be an impartial jurist?

and a safe one in life after the fact?
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isn't this trial the perfect scenario for a terror attack? KSM can be a martyr and more people can be innocently slaughtered while BHO (claims to)know nothing about it?


what a perfect jihad set-up if you think about it..

and I pray it does NOT happen.. things are too loose in this situation..

the reality is who really can be an impartial jurist?

and a safe one in life after the fact?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 701482

Well said my friend!
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Excellent fear mongering. You're doing a great job working for the terrorists. They should give you a raise.
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Re: Some things to look foward to when Khalid Sheikh Mohammed goes on trial in NYC
isn't this trial the perfect scenario for a terror attack? KSM can be a martyr and more people can be innocently slaughtered while BHO (claims to)know nothing about it?


what a perfect jihad set-up if you think about it..

and I pray it does NOT happen.. things are too loose in this situation..

the reality is who really can be an impartial jurist?

and a safe one in life after the fact?

Well said my friend!
 Quoting: mathetes


thank you sir...just my initial thoughts..

something just doesn't feel right here..
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Excellent fear mongering. You're doing a great job working for the terrorists. They should give you a raise.
 Quoting: Bill Loney



so you are saying you work for money to shill?
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Excellent fear mongering. You're doing a great job working for the terrorists. They should give you a raise.
 Quoting: Bill Loney

Show what facts I got wrong or STFU...
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Jihad-Enabling commie lawyer finally going to jail

Stewart, 70, was convicted by a jury of helping imprisoned blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahmen communicate with his followers in the outlawed Islamic Group in Egypt (NYLJ, Feb. 14, 2005). She was tried along with interpreter Mohamed Yousry for a plot to pass messages from Sheikh Rahman, who is serving a life sentence for seditious conspiracy—a violation of Special Administrative Measures put in place to muzzle the sheikh and prevent him from signaling Islamic Group to abandon a cease-fire on terror attacks.

A third defendant, Ahmed Abdel Sattar, was convicted of the more serious crime of conspiracy to kill and kidnap people in another country.

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Ahmed Abdel Sattar was a paralegal on KSM defense team


So we have 3 members of KSM defense team conspiring to help the worldwide jihad,2 of them true believers and the 3rd a commie US hating hag







[link to www.law.com]

Last Edited by mathetes on 11/18/2009 12:13 AM
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Excellent fear mongering. You're doing a great job working for the terrorists. They should give you a raise.

Show what facts I got wrong or STFU...
 Quoting: mathetes


You don't have to get any facts wrong to be fear mongering. It's all in how you present them. Look at your title, "Some things to look foward to when Khalid Sheikh Mohammed goes on trial in NYC" Not, "Some things to be cautious about" or "some things we need to be aware of to make sure it doesn't happen..." You assume bad things will happen.

And on top of that it's stupid. Do you really think all the bad guys are waiting around for KSM to smuggle word out to do something? That's like saying fat people are just waiting for Oprah's permission to eat something. The reason there've been no attacks isn't because KSM hasn't smuggled out instructions. Or maybe you think they've been waiting all this
time for his trial? That was awfully prescient of them since no one knew he would even be going on trial until recently.

Maybe the trial will be an irresistible temptation? Excellent! It's an opportunity to catch more of them. But you'd never think to see it that way, being so scared and all.

So yes, fear mongering is what you're doing, and fear mongering is what I call it.
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The return of the stained tee-shirt. I'm back in fashion, man!
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You don't have to get any facts wrong to be fear mongering. It's all in how you present them.
 Quoting: Bill Loney

So reporting FACTS about similar cases...facts that the average person my be unaware of is fear mongering?

Okay then..I appreciate your input but disagree
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Mathetes, check this book out... [link to api.ning.com]
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mathetes....maybe you are a different person......but the mathetes i used to read was a insightful guy....your reasoning here is on a third graders level. Especially if you actually believe that Khalid is some kind of villian.

Whats sickening is the whole idea of a trial of these guys who obviously had nothing to do with any attack and the added fact that Obama and Holden have Okayed this circus.Obama should certainly know better.
New Yorkers are completely up to the task of another such injustice.
Not unlike what NYC, the then Mayor and Donald Trump tried to do to the black kids they claimed rapped the so called New york jogger in Central park in 1989.

As for the shameless twisted New York City Mass media:Why waste my breath?

Excellent fear mongering. You're doing a great job working for the terrorists. They should give you a raise.

Show what facts I got wrong or STFU...


You don't have to get any facts wrong to be fear mongering. It's all in how you present them. Look at your title, "Some things to look foward to when Khalid Sheikh Mohammed goes on trial in NYC" Not, "Some things to be cautious about" or "some things we need to be aware of to make sure it doesn't happen..." You assume bad things will happen.

And on top of that it's stupid. Do you really think all the bad guys are waiting around for KSM to smuggle word out to do something? That's like saying fat people are just waiting for Oprah's permission to eat something. The reason there've been no attacks isn't because KSM hasn't smuggled out instructions. Or maybe you think they've been waiting all this
time for his trial? That was awfully prescient of them since no one knew he would even be going on trial until recently.

Maybe the trial will be an irresistible temptation? Excellent! It's an opportunity to catch more of them. But you'd never think to see it that way, being so scared and all.

So yes, fear mongering is what you're doing, and fear mongering is what I call it.
 Quoting: Bill Loney
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You don't have to get any facts wrong to be fear mongering. It's all in how you present them.

So reporting FACTS about similar cases...facts that the average person my be unaware of is fear mongering?

Okay then..I appreciate your input but disagree
 Quoting: mathetes


It's all of a piece. All the hand wringing and fear mongering just gets old after a while. So one guy before managed to smuggle messages out through his attorneys... as if that is some kind of new thing! Yep. KSM will undoubtedly be able to do the same. So what? Like I said, it's not as if they've just been waiting around for word from him before they try something else. Did you know that once he's on death row he'll be able to write letters and everything? Big deal.

You give him WAAAAAYYYY too much respect.
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Jihad-Enabling commie lawyer finally going to jail

Stewart, 70, was convicted by a jury of helping imprisoned blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahmen communicate with his followers in the outlawed Islamic Group in Egypt (NYLJ, Feb. 14, 2005). She was tried along with interpreter Mohamed Yousry for a plot to pass messages from Sheikh Rahman, who is serving a life sentence for seditious conspiracy—a violation of Special Administrative Measures put in place to muzzle the sheikh and prevent him from signaling Islamic Group to abandon a cease-fire on terror attacks.

A third defendant, Ahmed Abdel Sattar, was convicted of the more serious crime of conspiracy to kill and kidnap people in another country.

Note
Ahmed Abdel Sattar was a paralegal on KSM defense team


So we have 3 members of KSM defense team conspiring to help the worldwide jihad,2 of them true believers and the 3rd a commie US hating hag







[link to www.law.com]
 Quoting: mathetes




Excellent post and a 5 star thread Mathetes. Ignore the forked-tongued shills.
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Maybe the government will pull something again during their show trial.
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Jihad-Enabling commie lawyer finally going to jail

Stewart, 70, was convicted by a jury of helping imprisoned blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahmen communicate with his followers in the outlawed Islamic Group in Egypt (NYLJ, Feb. 14, 2005). She was tried along with interpreter Mohamed Yousry for a plot to pass messages from Sheikh Rahman, who is serving a life sentence for seditious conspiracy—a violation of Special Administrative Measures put in place to muzzle the sheikh and prevent him from signaling Islamic Group to abandon a cease-fire on terror attacks.

A third defendant, Ahmed Abdel Sattar, was convicted of the more serious crime of conspiracy to kill and kidnap people in another country.

Note
Ahmed Abdel Sattar was a paralegal on KSM defense team


So we have 3 members of KSM defense team conspiring to help the worldwide jihad,2 of them true believers and the 3rd a commie US hating hag







[link to www.law.com]




Excellent post and a 5 star thread Mathetes. Ignore the forked-tongued shills.
 Quoting: chalcedony

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