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SHOCKING EXPOSE OF VETERINARY PRACTICES ~ TO FLEECE THEIR TRUSTING OWNERS

 
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12/05/2009 02:58 AM
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The person who wrote about their experiences in the Daily Mail which started this thread came from a back ground of public service (NHS) which is a world away from how Veterinary medicine is run.I think that Medicine of all kinds should be practiced by people who have a vocation .In Veterinary practice this can get swept aside by pressures of stress ,tiredness and financial concerns.Here Veterinary Medicine has one of the highest suicide and divorce rates of all jobs and professions.Some pet owners put too much into their pets particularly the one who call their pets "my boys".They are not your children they are animals who are sharing their lives with you.They are dogs ,cats ,horses or whatever animal the pet is.Let them be that.Sort out why you are projecting all this emotion on these creatures.Perhaps the practices are charging what they have to to survive.As for fleecing owners some people would want to keep creatures alive for as long as possible no matter what the animal had to endure and what they had to pay while others would rather put the creature out of its misery.I think that people should have what they want as long as the animal is not suffering too much.Medicine is not cut and dried it is not a science.But it is not good to make people feel guilty if they would prefer to just let the creature go.I have heard this emotional blackmail happens .Someone has told me it happened to them and I think it is wrong. People should be prepared to pay and not expect treatment for free.As I said before we would be horrified at what we would have to pay for our own health care if it wasn't more or less free.As for 24 hour care.I could call at any time to see a doctor but I do not expect to be eyeball to eyeball with them no matter how ill I was.People should expect the same of a vet with their animals.Sometimes when creatures are ill human or animal they just want to lie and recover.Though unfortunately mistakes do happen and things die.Vets and doctors do have their own life too you know. Rant over.
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12/06/2009 12:26 PM
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Hi Folks,
This is becoming a very active and emotional thread. I am not really surprised because I think a lot of us love our animals more than other people(even though we won't admit it). I had a girl that worked for me for many years and was a REAL animal lover. I would always say to her "Dayle, I understand where you are coming from but it is the humans that are sick(emotionally, psycologically and spiritually)and need the most help, not the animals". If we could help the people get better, then the animals would not have to suffer the way they do. I guess I should have been a social worker instead of a veterinarian. At any rate having an active mind I would always think about things like this and I have come to the conclusion that we may be the most arrogant of the species but we are certainly not the most evolved. Yes, I think most animals are more evoled than us humans. They don't have to take anti-depressants and watch pornography.

However, we do have a great impact on them and if you are a person with personal difficulties(and who is not) you can not help but see those difficulties reflected in your own canine. I know my dog is a lot like me so he certainly is not "normal". So it be hooves us all to try to be better people, one day at a time, if not for the human race, do it for your dog or cat. I truly believe our higher power put our animals here to teach us lessons. I have seen it happen over and over again. I know I have learned a great deal from animals(dogs and horses mostly).

Being riped off by anyone is wrong, and lets face it, it is happening everywhere all the time to everybody. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. I must admit that my behavior as a veterinarian could have been better. However, first we are lied to in our professional schools when we are educated and I have seen this becoming a much bigger problem these days than before. Then we are corrupted by STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE(SOP)of our peers, who have graduated before us, when we get out of school.

Believe me until you become your own person(believe what you truely feel is right in your heart) and it is one giant feat in our society today we will all transgress on each other and I think the people who are complaining the most about the corrupt Vets. had better take a good hard and honest look at themselves first. Because it is seeing our own reflections in others that causes us to react so emotionally.

But yes I do see that the human species is on the edge of the Abyss looking in and if we do not change and start treating one another with the honesty, truth, trust, fairness, sincereity and the respect that we all deserve then man will become exstinct. However, we must first and foremost be brutely honest with ourselves about our own faults then we will beable to see the truth. And hopefully it will set us free. But hurry there is not much time before the NWO and the UN and WHO spread the next spanish Flu II pandemic and marshall law and chaos from the dollar collapse ensues.
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99.999999 percent of ALL doctors are both QUACKS and CROOKS....Guess I should now go and see one because even thinking about those scum make me sick!
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You, my friend are a 5 star pet owner and veterinary client. Thank you for a fresh perspective in this thread and for being such and understanding person. Luckily, about 60% of my current clients are like you. My sincere sympathies for you and your dog regarding the lymphosarcoma. The only good news is it won't take long.

I had a similar experience. - A blind Client, Jim, had a service dog, Addie. Addie was diagnosed with a Mast cell tumor. Until that point, she was a shining star, as far as service dogs go. We had a fundraiser to put together enough money to get Addie surgery and chemo-therapy. The surgery went as well as could be expected, but not as well as we'd hoped. A month or so into her chemotherapy, she walked Jim out into traffic on main street. Not a good thing. The chemo really made her sick, and she just wasn't able to work.

Addie was retired shortly after that and came to live with my family. I'd hoped that I could keep her around. It was an adjustment for her to transistion from a working service dog to family pet/clinic dog, but it didn't take her too long. She came to work at the clinic every day and was a tremendous help. She immediately knew if a dog or people agressive dog came in the door, and had a very subtle way of approaching them sideways and showing them how to act in the clinic. She always knew when there was a problem in the clinic I needed to know about she would stand outside the surgery door and bark or would come around the corner into the pharmacy and give me her "follow me" look that meant I'd better get out front. She was right 99% of the time. We'd given the kids a bichon puppy a couple of months before Addie joined our family, and Addie essentially taught the puppy how to be a service dog, and to take care of us. She even potty trained the little poop machine.

Anyway, after two years, Addie slowed down at home. She would wind up and be "on" at work, but as soon as we were home, she'd eat, and head straight to her bed. Then one day, about 5 months later, she just couldn't get up after her lunchtime nap. I'd been monitoring her decline and I knew during the last month that her kidneys were going to shut down at any time. We called her former owner, and all the family and staff in. We had a very tearful couple of hours saying good bye, and put her to sleep in the lobby of the clinic. That's been 4 years ago. It still feels like we're missing a member of the family. The good news is, we still have the puppy she trained. Chet is always there if any of the kids come in the door crying. She taught him to diagnose when something was wrong. If I come home from work with a headache, chettie won't leave my side. He's been through flu, strep, colds, he's even there through seasonal allergies.

I've been somewhat short to some on this thread, because parts of it tended toward looking like "Gripe about your vet - Fest, 2009". I even, at some points tried to turn it into "Gripe about your clients right back", but I do truly feel for you and you're dog's cancer. Thank you for sharing your experiences. God's speed to you and yours.

AC KS
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Thank you, my friend, for your kind words, and thank you for your service.

Your experience with Addie speaks to, and about, many veterinarians. Hearts of gold and never ending compassion for both animals and humans.The world is a better place because of people like you.

Maybe later I can write more, but now is still an emotional time. Thank you for understanding, your support, and kind words.

My dog is still doing well and most of the time you wouldn't know there was anything wrong with him. He's a little more tired than usual.That's all.

I can't bear the thought of losing him, but know I have to. You have an idea of how much your words meant to me. Thank you for your kindness. Thank you for Addie, and Jim, and for everyone who's lives you've touched.

I'll come back to this thread later. Just can't right now, but wanted you to know how much your kindness meant to me. Thank you. hf
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When the time comes that he's suffering, which is predicted to be soon, my vet will come to my home if I need him to. He will be soft spoken and kind, and will fight the emotions he's feeling. He will hurt. I will hurt. My dog will no longer hurt.


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I needed my vet tonight. Saturday night, after hours. He came to my home. He was soft spoken and kind. He fought the emotions he felt. He hurt. I hurt. My dog will never again hurt.

A special thanks from my dear friend to a very special Vet, for helping him leave this world peacefully, in the comfort of his home.

Good bye, my dear, sweet, friend.

Last Edited by Nine's on 10/04/2010 04:01 AM
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Vets often push for heart worm treatment at a cost of over $2,000, most of which is boarding the dog for 2 months. A dog receiving the highly toxic remedy miticide, must be limited in movement so the dead worms don't lodge in a blood vessel and kill the dog.

Many people don't realize that the same thing can be done at home by getting the worm shots at the vet and then caging the dog at home, or if it is a 'couch potato' dog anyway, just keep a close watch on it and don't let it start running or playing hard.

Cost of the heart worm remedy shots alone with no vet boarding vary from $150. to $1,200. Shop around!!!
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Or just use heartgard (ivermectin) at least every five weeks. Good as a prevention or cure. Annual heartworm tests are a waste of money if you give your dog ivermectin. I have always told my vet, why test for HW, if she has it I will just continue giving ivermectin. He nods and gives me another year of prescription ivermectin, without an annual test. I learned this tip from a drunken vet at a party.
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Doctors do the same to humans why would the medical field be any different for animals.
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My mother-in-law lost one of hers dogs a few months back. Dog was 2 or 3 yrs old. Got what we thought was parvo, test negative. Bloody diarrhea, throwning up, then just upped and died. Still have no idea, it does look similar to parvo, but something different I'm afraid.
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I was reading through this whole thread tonight, too. Can't even begin to describe the horrors I went through with multiple vets for my two cats who passed away 6 years ago. It is just sick the way they treat the animals and the humans for a profit. My heart is breaking.
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thanks for this post. I just brought my dog to the vet yesterday; she's 15, has had a good long life, and is now panting, bad hips, in pain and may have cancer.

I brought her home for a few days to try the painkillers and see how she does...but I know it my heart it's just time.

I did not take the vet up on her offer to do bloodwork, steroid treatments and chemo. I'd only be doing it for myself.

Right now, Ladybug is asleep at my feet, dreaming like a puppy. I'll miss her very much.
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