There will NEVER be a TEMPLE rebuilt in Jerusalem

The economy crash and a national service law ("work to eat") causing us all to break God's sabbath, along with the destruction of Israel will likely all happen simultaniously in short order.

Christians don't have to keep the sabbath. As for the rest, how do you know all that will happen?

The economy crash and a national service law ("work to eat") causing us all to break God's sabbath, along with the destruction of Israel will likely all happen simultaniously in short order.


Christians don't have to keep the sabbath. As for the rest, how do you know all that will happen?

Christians don't have to keep the sabbath.

Irenaeus


"y means of the events which shall occur in the time of the Antichrist it is shown that he, being an apostate and a robber, is anxious to be adored as God, and that although a mere slave, he wishes to be proclaimed as king. For he, being endued with all the power of the devil, shall not come as a righteous king nor as a legitimate king in subjection to God, but as an impious, unjust, and lawless one . . . setting aside idols to persuade [men] that he himself is God, raising himself up as the only idol. . . . Moreover [Paul] has also pointed out this which I have shown in many ways: that the temple in Jerusalem was made by the direction of the true God. For the apostle himself, speaking in his own person, distinctly called it the temple of God [2 Thess. 2:4] . . . in which the enemy shall sit, endeavoring to show himself as Christ" (Against Heresies 5:25:1-2 [A.D. 189]).

"Moreover, another danger, by no means trifling, shall overtake those who falsely presume that they know the name of the Antichrist. For if these men assume one [number] when this [Antichrist] shall come having another, they will be easily led away by him as supposing him not to be the expected one. . . . It is therefore more certain, and less hazardous, to await the fulfillment of the prophecy than to be making surmises and casting about for any names that may present themselves, inasmuch as many names can be found possessing the number mentioned, and the same question will, after all, remain unsolved" (ibid., 5:30:2-3).

"But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he will reign for three years and six months and will sit in the temple at Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake of fire" (ibid., 5:30:4).

Christians don't have to keep the sabbath.

Says who??????????

Turkey's Erdogan warns Israel of “earthquake” in case of action against Iran.. hmm just maybe.. do you think that if something goes down soon.. it will pave the way for the temple on the mount to be removed, making way for the 3rd temple??

Interesting times!

dont know about that saint youranus stuff but

Ezakial says :

And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

this aint talkin about anti Christ

dont know about that saint youranus stuff but

Ezakial says :

And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

this aint talkin about anti Christ


How old are you? Have you no respect for the saints
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Daniel 9:27
And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.

Daniel 11:29-31
"At the appointed time he will invade the South again, but this time the outcome will be different from what it was before. Ships of the western coastlands [a] will oppose him, and he will lose heart. Then he will turn back and vent his fury against the holy covenant. He will return and show favor to those who forsake the holy covenant.

"His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.

Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

2Thessalonians 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2Thessalonians 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The economy crash and a national service law ("work to eat") causing us all to break God's sabbath, along with the destruction of Israel will likely all happen simultaniously in short order.


Christians don't have to keep the sabbath. As for the rest, how do you know all that will happen?

Dead wrong buddy

3rd temple is explicit in many place of the Prophets

What the God had the real prophets will be

The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 831805


Also in Ezekiel 37

1The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,

2And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.

3And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

4Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.

5Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

6And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

7So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.

8And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

9Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

10So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

15The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

16Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

The Temple will NEVER be rebuilt. Jesus himself said, "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate."


Show me from the scriptures, where it is stated that the temple is going to be rebuilt. If you think it is in Daniel 9:27, you are mistaken. The first half of that passage refers to JESUS, not to "antichrist". In ALL of scripture, antichrist NEVER makes a covenant with ANYBODY.

JESUS was the one to cause the sacrifice to cease, BY HIS DEATH. That is why the Temple veil was rent, from top to bottom, at the time of his death. read the verses ABOVE 27. Put 27 in CONTEXT!It is JESUS being spoken of in Daniel 9:27, which is where the Jesuit priests replaced Jesus, with antichrist!

The second half of Daniel 9:27 refers to the destruction of Jerusalem, by the Roman general, Titus.






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How Jesus Christ's ministry ended exactly on the 69th Week

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2. Determining the Messiah's arrival

Daniel 9:25 says, "[The time] unto the Messiah, the Prince, shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks; the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. " The sixty-nine weeks leading to the coming of the Messiah are divided into two time periods of seven and sixty-two weeks. Verse 27 indicates that the seventieth week is separated from the other sixty-nine, so only 483 years of the total 490 involved in Daniel's prophecy span the time between the command and the coming of the Messiah. That is the time period we will consider here.

a) The first seven weeks

(1) When they commence

Verse 25 indicates that they begin with "the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem"--but history records several such commands given on different dates. It's important to know which one is right since a different starting date would result in a different ending date. Bible scholars have suggested three possibilities.

a) At the decree of Cyrus?

Ezra 1:1-4 records a decree made by Cyrus in 536 B. C. Some scholars think that must be the decree mentioned in Daniel's prophecy because God said of Cyrus through Isaiah, "He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure; even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid" (44:28). But 483 years subtracted from 536 B. C. takes us to 53 B. C. , many years before the birth of Christ and still more from the inception of His ministry--a discrepancy of over eighty years.

Over the span of hundreds of years eighty years or so may seem close, but our God isn't close--He's exact! Some have proposed a revision of the Ptolemaic calendar (commonly used before the time of Copernicus) to account for the discrepancy, but that seems an inadequate solution because we can't prove a discrepancy. Also, the actual decree of Cyrus provided only for building the Temple in Jerusalem--not for rebuilding Jerusalem's walls (a necessary part of restoring the city). Thus Cyrus's decree is an unlikely candidate for the command of Daniel 9:25.

(b) At the first decree of Artaxerxes?

The first decree of Artaxerxes in 458 B. C. (Ezra 7:11-26) is considered a possibility. However, 483 years from 458 B. C. takes us to A. D. 26. But the only event of significance in the life of Christ remotely close to A. D. 26 is His baptism. However that wasn't His presentation to the nation as the Messiah, but to the Father for approval. It was a transaction between the Son and the Father, and there's no indication that the people at large understood what happened at Jesus' baptism (Matt. 3:13-17). Also, the first decree of Artaxerxes did not provide for the rebuilding of Jerusalem.

(c) At the second degree of Artaxerxes?

This is the best candidate for the decree spoken of in Daniel 9:25. Two scholars have convincingly researched this view: Sir Robert Anderson of Scotland Yard, who over hundred years ago wrote the classic book The Coming Prince (Grand Rapids: Kregel, 1954) , and Dr. Harold Hoehner of Dallas Theological Seminary, who wrote Chronological Aspects of the Life of Christ (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1977). Dr. Hoehner confirmed Anderson's precise computations, differing with him only concerning the proper year of the accession of Artaxerxes to his throne.

Ezra 4 records that the restoration of the Temple was temporarily suspended because the builders were accused of also rebuilding the city without authorization. Permission for rebuilding the city came only with the second decree of Artaxerxes "in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes" (Neh. 2:1). Artaxerxes's reign started in 465 B. C. , so the date referred to in Nehemiah 2:1 was the month of Nisan in the year 445 B. C. Because a king's reign was dated from the first of the month of his reign, Sir Robert Anderson thought that since no other date was mentioned in Nehemiah 2, the date Nehemiah spoke of was probably the first of Nisan, 445 B. C. --or March 14, 445 B. C. according to our calendar.

During the seven weeks indicated in Daniel 9:25 the city of Jerusalem would be rebuilt "even in troublous times. " The books of Ezra and Nehemiah reveal that's precisely what happened (Ezra 9 and 10; Neh. 4, 6, 9, and 13). Yet during that forty-nine year period crucial events occurred in the history of Israel: the city was rebuilt, the Temple established, and the canon of the Old Testament was completed. From the close of that time to the advent of John the Baptist there was no prophet in Israel.

The prophecy that the street and wall of Jerusalem would be rebuilt is best understood to refer to its internal structures and external fortifications (the Hebrew words used literally refer to the marketplace and surrounding moat of the city). The prophecy required the complete restoration of Jerusalem take place in forty-nine years. Since it was during the half century after the second decree of Artaxerxes that history records Jerusalem was rebuilt and completed, it seems that decree must be the one that started the seventy weeks prophesied in Daniel 9:24-27.

(2) When they conclude

The seven weeks of years concluded in 396 B. C. , forty-nine years after the second decree of Artaxerxes in 445B. C.

b) The sixty-two weeks

(1) When they commence

In 396 B. C. , following the forty-nine years of rebuilding Jerusalem, a period of sixty-two weeks of years (434 years) commenced. Simple addition shows that the total number of years between the second decree of Artaxerxes and the coming of the Messiah is 483 years. Each of those years consisted of 360 days. Thus the total number of days involved is 173,880 days.

(2) When they conclude

The phrase "the Messiah, the Prince" (Heb., mashiach nagid) is formal terminology that means "the Anointed One, the Ruler. " The Hebrew word translated "prince" (nagid) was first used of King Saul and then of other kings. It is a title associated with kingly authority and is applied here to the appearing of the Lord Jesus Christ as a prince and ruler.

But what particular event in Christ's life marks the end of the sixty-two weeks? Two popular views are His baptism and triumphal entry into Jerusalem.

(a) At Christ's baptism?

Some think the appearance spoken of in Daniel 9:25 refers to His baptism. But as we already discussed, that appearance was a presentation to the Father. Those present were unaware of what was occurring, and the Father's declaration was, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" (Matt. 3:17) --not a declaration of Christ's kingly authority.

(b) At Christ's triumphal entry?

The interpretation that makes the most sense is the triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem since that was when He was presented to the Jewish people as the Messianic Prince. The test of this theory is whether the triumphal entry occurred 173,880 days after the second decree of Artaxerxes.

Working from March 14, 445 B. C. (the date of Artaxerxes' second decree according to our calendar) , Sir Robert Anderson calculated by the use of astronomical calendars and charts that the day of the coming of the Messiah was April 6, A. D. 32. Such calendars and charts helped him determine the timing of the Jewish new moons by which the Passovers were determined.

One of the problems Anderson had to resolve in his calculations was that between the decree of Artaxerxes and the triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem is a period of 477 years and 24 days. After deducting one year to account for the fact that 1 B. C. and A. D. 1 are not two years but one, that left Anderson with a total of 476 years 24 days or a total of 173,764 days--not the necessary 173,880 days. That's close--but our God is precise!

Anderson next added 119 days to his figure for the 119 leap years represented by 476 years. That results in a figure of 173,883 days--three days too many! But realizing that the Julian calendar on which our 365 day year is based is slightly inaccurate compared to an actual solar year, Anderson checked with the Royal Observatory in London and found that a 365 day year exceeds a solar year by 1/128th of a day. That fraction of 476 years is three days, which when subtracted from 173,883 yields a difference of 173,880 days--precisely the number of days predicted in Daniel 9:25!

More recently Dr. Harold Hoehner used modern astronomical charts and computers to confirm the work of Sir Robert Anderson. However, he used a different starting date than Anderson. That's because he knew that Medo-Persian kings didn't include the year of their accession to the throne to reckon the length of their reigns. That meant Artaxerxes wasn't considered king until 464 B. C. , and thus rather than using 445 B. C. as the year of Artaxerxes's second decree (as Anderson did) , Hoehner used 444 B. C. (twenty years after Artaxerxes was first recognized as king--Neh. 2:1). It also meant that the first of Nisan fell on March 30 (according to the new moons of 444 B. C. ) rather than March 5.

Using the same adjustments as Anderson, Hoehner multiplied 476 (the number of years between the second decree of Artaxerxes and the presentation of the Messiah in Jerusalem) by 365. 24219879 (the decimal equivalent of 365 days, five hours, forty-eight minutes, and forty-four seconds--which accounts for the 1/128 difference between calendar and solar days observed by Anderson) and obtained a product of 173,855. 28662404 days (173,855 days, six hours, fifty-two minutes, and forty-four seconds). That's twenty-five days longer than the 173,880 that ought to exist from the time of the decree to the time of the Messiah's appearance. But Hoehner was able to adjust that amount by the difference between the starting dates of Anderson (March 5) and himself (March 30) --a period of exactly twenty-five days! Thus regardless of the starting date used, both Anderson and Hoehner were able to show the precision with which God predicted and fulfilled the presentation of Jesus Christ as Messiah and Ruler.

Conclusion

When Jesus entered Jerusalem in triumph it wasn't on a whim. When He said, "Mine hour is not yet come," He knew what He was talking about: God has declared "the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done" (Isa. 46:10). God told Daniel precisely when the Messiah would enter Jerusalem and be acknowledged as King with shouts of "Hosanna to the Son of David!" (Matt. 21:9).

The "gap" between the 69th and the 70th week, and the purpose of the "gap"

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The Interval


Verses which imply a gap between the 69th and the 70th:
Isa 61:1-2 (re: Lk 4:18-20) Rev 12:5-6 Also Isa 54:7; Hos 3:4-5; Amos 9:10-11 (Acts 15:13-18) Micah 5:2-3; Zech 9:9-10; Luke 1:31-32; 21:24.


Verses which define the gap between the 69th and 70th:
Lk 19:42 until Rom 11:25

-- The interval is the period for the Church which was kept secret in the Old Testament:
Mt. 13:34-35; Eph 3:5, 9

-- Church was born at Pentecost:
Col 1:18; 1 Cor 12:13; Acts 1:5, 11, 15-16


-- Prerequisities which had to take place before the birth of the Church

Atonement: Mt. 16:18, 21
Resurrection: Eph 1:20-23
Ascension: Eph 4:7-11 (spiritual gifts came only after ascension)


Unique and Mysterious Character of the Church

Body Concept: Eph 3:3-5,9
(Holy Spirit) Indwelling every believer: Col 1:26-27
Bride of Christ: Eph 5:22-32
Harpazo ("Rapture"): 1 Cor 15:50-58
One "New Man": Eph 2:15; Cf. Rev: 12:5
Distinguished from Jews or Gentiles: 1 Cor 10:32

Why Daniel 9:27 is the Antichrist

Daniel 9:27
And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.

We know that Daniel 9:27 is not meant for Christ, but the Antichrist, because it correlates with the little horn, man of sin, son of perdition, idol shepherd (etc) mentioned earlier in Daniel and all throughout the Bible. And not only that, but it flows with the previous verse, which says: Messiah will be "cut-off" (executed, disappearing from the "world scene"), then "the people of the prince that shall come" will destroy Jerusalem with the temple. Sometime later, the Antichrist (when he comes, and when the Jews are back in the land and the temple is rebuilt) will make a covenant with many (Israel, or "thy people" as Gabriel puts it) for one week.

What Jesus meant by "the abomination of desolation"; how and why it correlates with a historical event

Daniel 11:29-31
"At the appointed time he will invade the South again, but this time the outcome will be different from what it was before. Ships of the western coastlands [a] will oppose him, and he will lose heart. Then he will turn back and vent his fury against the holy covenant. He will return and show favor to those who forsake the holy covenant.

"His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.

This is what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did before the arrival of Jesus, and it's recorded in the book of Daniel as well as 1 Maccabees. It also correlates with the Jewish Holiday known as Hannukah. Antiochus IV Epiphanes stopped the temple sacrifices, slew a pig on the altar, then erected a statue of Zeus in the holy temple. This act caused a revolt known as The Maccabean Revolt. Antiochus IV Epiphanes also forced Jews to cease from circumcision as well as Sabbath observance, and executed anyone who was found disobeying these rules.
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Now let's look at what Jesus said about this

Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Jesus warns us of a future event but uses a past event as an example. How do we know this?

Event #1 - Past
As previously mentioned, in Daniel 11:31 Antiochus IV Epiphanes stopped the temple sacrifice, then sets up an idol to Zeus in the temple. This act was called "the abomination that causes desolation". The phrase "the abomination that causes desolation" alone should give us pause and bring to our minds what was said in Matthew 24:15.

Event #2 - Future
This event will be just like the previous one, only on a worldwide scale, and much worse. Let's find out why this future event will be like the previous one, and why it is in fact yet to happen.

Future:
The phrase "when ye therefore shall see" alone suggests this event is a future one.

Foreshadow:
Jesus in Matthew 24:15 calls the future event "the abomination of desolation". Gabriel in Daniel 11:31 calls the past event "the abomination that causes desolation". Because we've already discussed what "the abomination that causes desolation" was and who committed the act, it should then be obvious what Jesus was actually talking about in Matthew 24:15. The connection is just too obvious to ignore or deny. With this understanding alone, we then know that "the holy place" is in fact a rebuilt temple.

The conclusion is that the act of Antiochus IV Epiphanes was largely a foreshadowing of what and who (namely the Antichrist) is to come: "the prince that shall come" will stop the temple sacrifices in the middle of the week, waltz into the temple and declare himself higher than God, perhaps erect in the temple an image of himself (Revelation 13), (which will be the abomination of desolation) then ruthlessly murder those who do not comply with his demanded worship.

What exactly is "the holy place"?

Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

2Thessalonians 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

B. The Holy Place Identified

The "holy place" (Matt. 24:15) has been variously interpreted as the land of Israel, the people of Israel, or the city of Jerusalem. Nonetheless Acts 21:28 tells us quite clearly what it is. Paul had come back to Jerusalem after his third missionary journey. He wanted to reassure the Jews that he was not a traitor to his people. To do this, he went into the Temple to go through a purification ritual with some Jewish men. While Paul was in the Temple, Jews from Asia who knew Paul was a preacher of the gospel found him and started a riot. This was their accusation against Paul: "Men of Israel, help! This is the man that teacheth all men everywhere against the people, and the law, and this place; and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place" (Acts 21:28). The phrase "holy place" in this verse can only be a reference to the Temple. And I don't see any reason for it to mean anything other than that in Matthew 24:15. The Old Testament also refers to the Temple as the Holy Place (cf Ps. 24:3).

Let's further examine what Paul says

2Thessalonians 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Notice what Paul says - Paul says the Son of Perdition will sit in the temple of God and proclaim himself higher than all that is called God. This agrees strongly with what Jesus said in Matthew 24:15 (as well as Daniel 7:8, 11; Daniel 7:20-21, 25; Daniel 11:31, 36-37; Daniel 12:11; Daniel 9:26-27; Daniel 8:25; Revelation 13:5-8)

Further proof that it is in fact a rebuilt temple


Revelation 11:1-2
And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple [naos G3485] of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Take notice that John is given a measuring reed to take measurements, which implies it's a building. Also notice that this temple is not in heaven and that it has an altar and people inside of it. Take notice that Gentiles are given the outer court. This is clearly a rebuilt temple on the earth. We also know it's a rebuilt temple on the earth because we see the two witnesses doing their thing to those who try to harm them while they are visiting:

Revelation 11:3-7
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

The Greek word translated as "temple" in Revelation 11:1 is the same Greek word Paul uses as "temple" in 2 Thessalonians 2:4:

2Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple [naos G3485] of God, shewing himself that he is God.

'Temple' - Naos
G3485
naos
nah-os'
From a primary word; naio; (to dwell); a fane, shrine, temple: - shrine, temple. Compare G2411.


naos
from a primary naio (to dwell)

1. used of the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice (or sanctuary) itself, consisting of the Holy place and the Holy of Holies (in classical Greek it is used of the sanctuary or cell of the temple, where the image of gold was placed which is distinguished from the whole enclosure)
2. any heathen temple or shrine
3. metaph. the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in Christ

KJV (46) - a shrine, 1; temple, 45;
NAS (45) - shrines, 1; temple, 42; temple sanctuary, 1; temples, 1;
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The Temple will NEVER be rebuilt. Jesus himself said, "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate."


Show me from the scriptures, where it is stated that the temple is going to be rebuilt. If you think it is in Daniel 9:27, you are mistaken. The first half of that passage refers to JESUS, not to "antichrist". In ALL of scripture, antichrist NEVER makes a covenant with ANYBODY.

JESUS was the one to cause the sacrifice to cease, BY HIS DEATH. That is why the Temple veil was rent, from top to bottom, at the time of his death. read the verses ABOVE 27. Put 27 in CONTEXT!It is JESUS being spoken of in Daniel 9:27, which is where the Jesuit priests replaced Jesus, with antichrist!

The second half of Daniel 9:27 refers to the destruction of Jerusalem, by the Roman general, Titus.






Look up "Rabbinical curse" in a google search. no wonder the devil hates this passage so much. It is the one that LITERALLY identifies the Messiah.

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Show me from the scriptures, where it is stated that the temple is going to be rebuilt.

Here you go :

Ezekial reveals the future temple measure by measure

read you Bible

Tanach - Ezekiel Chapter 41

1. And he brought me to the temple, and measured the posts, six cubits wide on the one side, and six cubits wide on the other side, which was the width of the tabernacle.
2. And the width of the door was ten cubits; and the sides of the door were five cubits on the one side, and five cubits on the other side; and he measured its length, forty cubits; and the width, twenty cubits.
3. Then he came to the interior, and measured the post of the door, two cubits; and the door, six cubits; and the width of the door, seven cubits.
4. And he measured its length, twenty cubits; and the width, twenty cubits, according to the width of the temple; and he said to me, This the most holy place.
5. And he measured the wall of the house, six cubits; and the width of every side chamber, four cubits, around the house on every side.
6. And the side chambers were one over another thirty three times; and there were recesses in the wall which was of the house for the side chambers around, that they might have hold, so that they were not fastened into the wall of the house.


this goes on for a long time

all the Details

the house will be built and it shall be Holy

the Prophets are full of 3rd Temple stuff

Nice cut'n'paste job there Goddrunk. Unfortunately, totally full of errors and outright lies.

But that's OK bud. You like to continue lying about Gods Sabbath as well. That's OK with me. Don't observe it, or any of the other 9 commandments either. doesn't effect me. Only you, and those you manage to deceive.

I don't think you are Goddrunk. Just drunk.

The Temple will NEVER be rebuilt. Jesus himself said, "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate."


Show me from the scriptures, where it is stated that the temple is going to be rebuilt. If you think it is in Daniel 9:27, you are mistaken. The first half of that passage refers to JESUS, not to "antichrist". In ALL of scripture, antichrist NEVER makes a covenant with ANYBODY.

JESUS was the one to cause the sacrifice to cease, BY HIS DEATH. That is why the Temple veil was rent, from top to bottom, at the time of his death. read the verses ABOVE 27. Put 27 in CONTEXT!It is JESUS being spoken of in Daniel 9:27, which is where the Jesuit priests replaced Jesus, with antichrist!

The second half of Daniel 9:27 refers to the destruction of Jerusalem, by the Roman general, Titus.






Look up "Rabbinical curse" in a google search. no wonder the devil hates this passage so much. It is the one that LITERALLY identifies the Messiah.

Check it out here:

[link to www.youtube.com]