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Grizzled Old Goat User ID: 828543 ![]() 12/20/2009 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance ![]() This comes from a CBS 60 Minutes piece this evening. Statistics: The Eastern Orthodox Church has it's seat in Istanbul,Turkey and is 17 centuries old. It is the oldest Christian Church in existence. In 1900 there were 2 million Christians in Istanbul. By natural repopulation between then and now that number should be around 8 million. Today there are 4000 Christians in Istanbul. Between 1923 and 1955 1.6 mil Christians were either killed by the Turks or fled the coming persecutions. The Eastern Orthodox Church with 300 mil followers has been reduced to 9 buildings with no hope of perpetuating itself due to Turkish regulations where it is now. The Turkish Gov ordered the closure of the Church Seminary school 38 years ago thus effectively at some point in the near future assuring the destruction of the seat of the Church. By Turkish Law the Archbishop of Constantinople (Istanbul) must be Turkish and TRAINED IN TURKEY. In my opinion this represents the Islamic view of toleration of other competing religious viewpoints. Turkey is not considered a RADICAL State and thus probably is more mainstream than most Islamic nations. We in the West had best wake up real quick because it appears this is just the tip of the ICEBERG when it comes to Islam. Turkey is a problem for sure - they are going to have to be booted out of NATO shortly.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 845427 ![]() 12/20/2009 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance ![]() The link is a piece by CBS 60 Minutes aired 12/20/09. Go to CBS .com and watch the whole piece it is both sickening and tragic. I found other topics for this date, but sadly could not find the one that was posted about. |
ANNONYMOUS (OP) User ID: 825313 ![]() 12/20/2009 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance ![]() The link is a piece by CBS 60 Minutes aired 12/20/09. Go to CBS .com and watch the whole piece it is both sickening and tragic. I found other topics for this date, but sadly could not find the one that was posted about. ![]() It was the very first piece this evening and perhaps they haven't got it up yet. I just watched it 2 1/2 hours ago. Contained great interviews with the Patriarch Bartholemew. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 341042 ![]() 12/20/2009 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance ![]() This comes from a CBS 60 Minutes piece this evening. Statistics: The Eastern Orthodox Church has it's seat in Istanbul,Turkey and is 17 centuries old. It is the oldest Christian Church in existence. In 1900 there were 2 million Christians in Istanbul. By natural repopulation between then and now that number should be around 8 million. Today there are 4000 Christians in Istanbul. Between 1923 and 1955 1.6 mil Christians were either killed by the Turks or fled the coming persecutions. The Eastern Orthodox Church with 300 mil followers has been reduced to 9 buildings with no hope of perpetuating itself due to Turkish regulations where it is now. The Turkish Gov ordered the closure of the Church Seminary school 38 years ago thus effectively at some point in the near future assuring the destruction of the seat of the Church. By Turkish Law the Archbishop of Constantinople (Istanbul) must be Turkish and TRAINED IN TURKEY. In my opinion this represents the Islamic view of toleration of other competing religious viewpoints. Turkey is not considered a RADICAL State and thus probably is more mainstream than most Islamic nations. We in the West had best wake up real quick because it appears this is just the tip of the ICEBERG when it comes to Islam. Shara law protects Christians. Islam is a deceiving Relgion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 612898 ![]() 12/21/2009 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance This is strange because Turkey is a secular state, not an Islamic Republic. That does not mean there are no fights of course. But Turkey is rather modern. And the first church known in that area was built in Iran in 68 ad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 612898 ![]() 12/21/2009 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance I need to find that news special referred too. They may have been speaking about the Kurdish protests. And there have been christian tombstones desecrated. The Turks do not want sharia law, in fact head coverings for women are not even allowed in the Universities. Some of the other ethnic groups living there do not like that. |
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ANNONYMOUS (OP) User ID: 825313 ![]() 12/21/2009 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance I need to find that news special referred too. They may have been speaking about the Kurdish protests. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 612898And there have been christian tombstones desecrated. The Turks do not want sharia law, in fact head coverings for women are not even allowed in the Universities. Some of the other ethnic groups living there do not like that. ![]() Sorry, the correct citation is cbsnews.com it is the second piece entitled "The Patriarch Bartholemew". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 612898 ![]() 12/21/2009 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance I need to find that news special referred too. They may have been speaking about the Kurdish protests. Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 825313And there have been christian tombstones desecrated. The Turks do not want sharia law, in fact head coverings for women are not even allowed in the Universities. Some of the other ethnic groups living there do not like that. ![]() Sorry, the correct citation is cbsnews.com it is the second piece entitled "The Patriarch Bartholemew". Here it is, and thanks OP. [link to www.cbsnews.com] |
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mathetes User ID: 793782 ![]() 01/06/2010 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance Very important thread...Turkey looms huge in Bible prophecy Great post OP! For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
SHR![]() Forum Administrator 01/06/2010 11:36 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance Interesting piece, glad I watched it. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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EpicFail User ID: 927971 ![]() 03/28/2010 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance didn't they have a military coup attempt not too long ago driven by secularist / moderate ideals? ![]() ![]() ///////// -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hold to forgiveness, command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant." ~[7:199] :palestine1::occupation::quran1::hamas1::israel1::ahmadineja: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 792499 ![]() 03/28/2010 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance Turkey is a problem for sure - they are going to have to be booted out of NATO shortly.. Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatRussia would like that. Control over the bosphorus and black sea via Turkey alliance. Won't happen, too much strategic significance there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 416242 ![]() 03/28/2010 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance Turkey is a problem for sure - they are going to have to be booted out of NATO shortly.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 792499Russia would like that. Control over the bosphorus and black sea via Turkey alliance. Won't happen, too much strategic significance there. Constantinople and adfjacent (originaly Greek)areas could be liberated and returned to Greece already long ago, during liberation wars of Greeks Bulgarians and Serbs. It had been Great Britain and France ( and Hungary) which helped Turkey to stop Russian army, it had been French and Brittish navy that attacked Russian fleet, it had been Brittish and French navy cannons that bombarded Sevastopol and othe r Crimean towns and ports during Crimean wars in 19th century. Greeks can thatnk to Brittish and French "Christians" and now they reap what they had sown - armies of muslims in their own homeland. Prosit! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 927825 ![]() 03/28/2010 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance This is the tip of the iceburg, and I have no doubt that it will fly over the head of this forum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 845427As a convert!...I thank you for posting this! As another convert, I thank the OP. |
me777 User ID: 774992 ![]() 03/28/2010 04:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance Very important thread...Turkey looms huge in Bible prophecy Quoting: mathetesGreat post OP! ![]() Subscribe to my blog: Exposing The Darkness End times headline news. Research and analysis of world events in light of Bible prophecy. [link to lionessofjudah.substack.com (secure)] |
Ostria User ID: 927876 ![]() 03/28/2010 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance ![]() LOL Im here! Just watched it. Thank you for posting it! Bartholomew is a great man, I really like him. All Christians should be like him. We know all these, what did you think? They are part of our own people and Istanbul is still Constantinople for us! But did you hear when these problems mainly started? Do you know that we were 400 years under the Ottoman Turks and Fanari was full of Christian people, the School was full of students, Imbros and Tenedos (the small islands they went around with the cart) had all the rich greek- christian mansions? Did you see the patent of Mohammed granted to the Holy Monastery of Sinai? Did you hear what he wrote? "The Letter of Protection is known as the Ahtiname, from the Arabic words ahd, which means “obligation,” and name, which means “document, testament.” The document has been instrumental in the protection of the monastery, and as a means of ensuring peaceful and cooperative relations between Christians and Moslems. The continuous existence of the monastery during fourteen centuries of Islamic rule is a sign of the respect given to this Letter of Protection, and the principles of peace and cooperation that it enshrines. " the picture here [link to 1.bp.blogspot.com] Relations between different religion were never perfect. But they used to be more tolerant in the past. This is what I say. And this is what I want to come back. |
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JADR User ID: 389430 ![]() 03/28/2010 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance ![]() This comes from a CBS 60 Minutes piece this evening. Statistics: The Eastern Orthodox Church has it's seat in Istanbul,Turkey and is 17 centuries old. It is the oldest Christian Church in existence. In 1900 there were 2 million Christians in Istanbul. By natural repopulation between then and now that number should be around 8 million. Today there are 4000 Christians in Istanbul. Between 1923 and 1955 1.6 mil Christians were either killed by the Turks or fled the coming persecutions. The Eastern Orthodox Church with 300 mil followers has been reduced to 9 buildings with no hope of perpetuating itself due to Turkish regulations where it is now. The Turkish Gov ordered the closure of the Church Seminary school 38 years ago thus effectively at some point in the near future assuring the destruction of the seat of the Church. By Turkish Law the Archbishop of Constantinople (Istanbul) must be Turkish and TRAINED IN TURKEY. In my opinion this represents the Islamic view of toleration of other competing religious viewpoints. Turkey is not considered a RADICAL State and thus probably is more mainstream than most Islamic nations. We in the West had best wake up real quick because it appears this is just the tip of the ICEBERG when it comes to Islam. Yes - these facts will never be repeated enough times!!! Anyone who wishes to understand anything about the middle east conflict must first comes to grip with Islamic intolerance. Thanks OP ![]() Last Edited by JADR on 03/28/2010 05:20 PM Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 927454 ![]() 03/28/2010 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance Turkey is not that radical when it comes to religion. Most of the christians migrated to greece i wish they hadnt. It happened in 60s and 70s when both countries were fighting for Cyprus. We are secular.At least for now. Patriarch needs the reopen the Church Seminary school to have future generation of priests.Thats why he is upset. I dont know why they wont let him reopen his school. Hes a real nice guy tough.Very peaceful person and loves this country.He objects todays governement for having silent opposition to reopening of school. |
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