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Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance

 
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This is strange because Turkey is a secular state, not an Islamic Republic. That does not mean there are no fights of course. But Turkey is rather modern. And the first church known in that area was built in Iran in 68 ad.
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I was in Istanbul last September. Amazingly beautiful and exotic city but...PLENTY of women in burkas around. Felt to me that the radical wing of Islam's gaining traction in Turkey.
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Oh in telling you about my observations in September, I forgot to mention the case of the father murdering his daughter and burying her under the chicken coop because she talked to a boy.

I don't believe he was arrested. Yes, Turkey's going radical Islam.
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08/19/2010 05:54 PM
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So because they hate against us it's okay to hate against them?
haven't u heard
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08/19/2010 08:20 PM
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Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance
But haven't u heard? Turkey is a moderate, tolerant islamic nation!

5a
This comes from a CBS 60 Minutes piece this evening.
Statistics: The Eastern Orthodox Church has it's seat in Istanbul,Turkey and is 17 centuries old. It is the oldest Christian Church in existence.

In 1900 there were 2 million Christians in Istanbul. By natural repopulation between then and now that number should be around 8 million. Today there are 4000 Christians in Istanbul. Between 1923 and 1955 1.6 mil Christians were either killed by the Turks or fled the coming persecutions.

The Eastern Orthodox Church with 300 mil followers has been reduced to 9 buildings with no hope of perpetuating itself due to Turkish regulations where it is now. The Turkish Gov ordered the closure of the Church Seminary school 38 years ago thus effectively at some point in the near future assuring the destruction of the seat of the Church. By Turkish Law the Archbishop of Constantinople (Istanbul) must be Turkish and TRAINED IN TURKEY.

In my opinion this represents the Islamic view of toleration of other competing religious viewpoints. Turkey is not considered a RADICAL State and thus probably is more mainstream than most Islamic nations. We in the West had best wake up real quick because it appears this is just the tip of the ICEBERG when it comes to Islam.
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huh?
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This is strange because Turkey is a secular state, not an Islamic Republic. That does not mean there are no fights of course. But Turkey is rather modern. And the first church known in that area was built in Iran in 68 ad.
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The military was the bulwark against the restoration of a religious state and they are being weakened. Erdogan is making his moves against the military, the only institution that defends secularism in turkey. When the first church was built islam was stil alost 600 years in the future so I have no idea what that has to do with anything.
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So because they hate against us it's okay to hate against them?
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Now you got it! It's kind of like this. If you bring a knife to a fight I'm going to bring a gun.
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08/19/2010 08:31 PM
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Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance
This is the tip of the iceburg, and I have no doubt that it will fly over the head of this forum.

As a convert!...I thank you for posting this!

As another convert, I thank the OP.
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Make that three of us.
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08/19/2010 08:36 PM
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I posted this a few days ago.

Thread: In pictures: Historic Orthodox Mass at ancient Turkish monastery
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5a

Statistics: The Eastern Orthodox Church has it's seat in Istanbul,Turkey and is 17 centuries old. It is the oldest Christian Church in existence.


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OP, could you kindly provide your evidence that this is the oldest christian church in existence? Thanks.
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bump for Swinburnian.
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Oh in telling you about my observations in September, I forgot to mention the case of the father murdering his daughter and burying her under the chicken coop because she talked to a boy.

I don't believe he was arrested. Yes, Turkey's going radical Islam.
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I also forgot to mention to you a father burned his daughter in the apartment building incinerator where he manages. He caught her chatting to a boy online. They were not muslims. Because the media didn't say. This happened in NYC.
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Re: Islamic Turkey Persecutes the Christian Eastern Orthodox Church a Most Fervent Example of Islamic Religious Intolerance
So because they hate against us it's okay to hate against them?
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The media keeps spewing "they hate us and our freedom." You people believe this silliness? This is just an excuse to bomb them and plunder their resources. Tell lies about them, say they are barbaric etc. then is okay when their countries are invaded. Lets go civilize them.
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It is a wrong that Turkey refuses to let a religion have freedom. the Turkish government should be ashamed.
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