Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! | |
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rodm User ID: 774495 ![]() 01/14/2010 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! The book of Rev is a book of prophecy, meaning its all in the future... So that means the man child is not Jesus, nor Israel... The woman is the visible, large church on the earth today. The man-child is a remnant inside the woman waiting to be born, brought out/cast out of the woman, the church. The man-child will be a select chosen group, by Gods hand. What church leaders can't tell you, because they don't know, they're too busy chasing MAMMON (tithes, donations, drinking the wine of the harlot) and on account of their incompetence the beast is able to wage war against the holy ones and conquer them,(Rev.13:7). Quoting: Mr Black 864736BOOK OF REVELATION Chapter 12 1 -- A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 -- She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. 3 -- Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. 4 -- Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. ---------- The above states the woman clothed with the sun is wailing aloud in pain as she labors to give birth, the huge red dragon is awaiting to devour this child from her womb. The dragon is described as having seven heads and ten horns, this is the same beast in Revelation 13 verse 2 which this dragon gave its own power and throne, along with great authority. At the above point in time (Rev 12:4) -- Satan has given his power and throne to the first beast (10 horns/7 heads) but is still allowed to enter Heaven to prefer accusations against the inhabitants of earth while the first beast carries out the Dragon's agenda to swallow the child on earth. Today this beast (europe) has been rising since after WW2 and is fully mature and has begun to fulfill (although partially) Revelation 17 verse 16 whereby the beast is hating the harlot (USA) by competing for the denomination of the World oil-pie into the euro from the harlot (U$A) who has royal authority of, and in the nearby future (2012) will consume the flesh of the harlot (USA) and burn her with fire completing the verse in its entirety. Having said this, the child cannot be JESUS. 2012 -- Beast (vs) Harlot Thread. Thread: 1000 years is like 1 day for GOD -- 2 Peter 3:8 -- this equals to 41.666 <<-- BEWARE OF HIS WRATH BOOK OF REVELATION Chapter 12 5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to GOD and his throne. 6 -- The woman herself fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by God, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days. ---------- We know that the seven Churches are the first to be addressed in the Book of Revelation (chapter 1-3), and they are addressed as churches, not women. 'Woman' in the Book of Revelation is in reference of cities. The woman that flees into the desert is a city and among the many females who are pregnant and become pregnant they will give birth to the future of generations (holy ones) who will be connected to Heaven (caught-up) to carry out the LORD'S plan for those who were left behind. They will possess the Covenant of GOD (BoE) and triumph. The city is Jerusalem fearing Nuclear attack by the beast (Iran,Russia,Europe) its citizens run for cover in the desert. The verse say the city (woman) is taken care of for 1260 days, this is 3-and-half-years. THIS IS A BIG WAR -- 2012 America and mother England along with the rest of her sisters Canada and Australia and allies (Israel) don't take this very lightly, they fight back against the beast and the War progresses from a few missiles fired to a full scale War (conventional) and as the escalation progresses and becomes HOT (nuke) attempts by the Harlot to assassinate the Beast are made, probably the President of the European commission who receives a deadly head blow but demonically survives by the Power of Azazel -- (azazel's teachings), hence the verse "the beast that comes up from the abyss" (Rev.17:8) -- Little horn, the second beast arises. BOOK OF REVELATION Chapter 12 7 -- Then war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels battled against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back, 8 -- but they did not prevail and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 -- The huge dragon, the ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, who deceived the whole world, was thrown down to earth, and its angels were thrown down with it. 10 -- Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have salvation and power come, and the kingdom of our GOD and the authority of his Anointed. For the accuser of our brothers is cast out, who accuses them before our GOD day and night. 11 -- They conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; love for life did not deter them from death. 12 -- Therefore, rejoice, you heavens, and you who dwell in them. But woe to you, earth and sea, for the Devil has come down to you in great fury, for he knows he has but a short time." ---------- The end of the World as we know it approaches at this point because the Little horn has made its appearance. War breaks out in Heaven expelling Satan and his angels forever. These are the great signs and fire that come down from heaven to earth in the sight of everyone (Rev.13:13) Little horn will say he performed so as to deceive furthermore the inhabitants of the World. BOOK OF REVELATION Chapter 12 13 -- When the dragon saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 -- But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year. 15 -- The serpent, however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. 16 -- But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth. 17 -- Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus. It took its position on the sand of the sea. --------- the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring Satan wages war against the rest of her offspring, not those who were caught-up to GOD because they possess the Covenant -- rather those who keep God's commandments (Jews) and bear witness to Jesus (Christians). Those who were caught-up and possess the Covenant of GOD (book of enoch) will undergo a change and have the light rest upon them, they will teach the Jews and Christians the truth and together they call upon GOD and become victorious. [+] (1)Enoch 50 1 -- In those days the saints and the chosen shall undergo a change. The light of day shall rest upon them; and the splendour and glory of the saints shall be changed. 2 -- In the day of trouble evil shall be heaped up upon sinners; but the righteous shall triumph in the name of the LORD of spirits. 3 -- Others shall be made to see, that they must repent, and forsake the works of their hands; and that glory awaits them not in the presence of the LORD of spirits; yet that by his name they may be saved. The LORD of spirits will have compassion on them; for great is his mercy; and righteousness is in his judgment, and in the presence of his glory; nor in his judgment shall iniquity stand. He who repents not before him shall perish. ![]() ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 838139 ![]() 01/14/2010 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! 'Woman' in the Book of Revelation is in reference of cities. The woman that flees into the desert is a city and among the many females who are pregnant and become pregnant they will give birth to the future of generations (holy ones) who will be connected to Heaven (caught-up) to carry out the LORD'S plan for those who were left behind. They will possess the Covenant of GOD (BoE) and triumph. ======================================== Nonsense. The male child who rules with a rod of iron is the one and only Jesus Christ, the Son of God. There is no other. The 'woman' who gives birth to Him is the family of nations of Abraham's descendants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 864701 ![]() 01/14/2010 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! 'Woman' in the Book of Revelation is in reference of cities. The woman that flees into the desert is a city and among the many females who are pregnant and become pregnant they will give birth to the future of generations (holy ones) who will be connected to Heaven (caught-up) to carry out the LORD'S plan for those who were left behind. They will possess the Covenant of GOD (BoE) and triumph. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838139======================================== Nonsense. The male child who rules with a rod of iron is the one and only Jesus Christ, the Son of God. There is no other. The 'woman' who gives birth to Him is the family of nations of Abraham's descendants. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 838139 ![]() 01/14/2010 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! Who is the descendant of Abraham? Read Galatians 3: 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ. |
nanuke User ID: 815174 ![]() 01/14/2010 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! gnosis/wisdom/sophia nag hammadi "I was sent forth from the power, and I have come to those who reflect upon me, and I have been found among those who seek after me. Look upon me, you who reflect upon me, and you hearers, hear me. You who are waiting for me, take me to yourselves. And do not banish me from your sight. And do not make your voice hate me, nor your hearing. Do not be ignorant of me anywhere or any time. Be on your guard! Do not be ignorant of me. For I am the first and the last. I am the honored one and the scorned one. I am the whore and the holy one. I am the wife and the virgin. I am the mother and the daughter. I am the members of my mother. I am the barren one and many are her sons. I am she whose wedding is great, and I have not taken a husband. I am the midwife and she who does not bear. I am the solace of my labor pains. I am the bride and the bridegroom, and it is my husband who begot me. I am the mother of my father and the sister of my husband and he is my offspring. I am the silence that is incomprehensible and the idea whose remembrance is frequent. I am the voice whose sound is manifold and the word whose appearance is multiple. I am the utterance of my name. Why, you who hate me, do you love me, and hate those who love me? You who deny me, confess me, and you who confess me, deny me. You who tell the truth about me, lie about me, and you who have lied about me, tell the truth about me. You who know me, be ignorant of me, and those who have not known me, let them know me. For I am knowledge and ignorance. I am shame and boldness. I am shameless; I am ashamed. I am strength and I am fear. I am war and peace. Give heed to me. I am the one who is disgraced and the great one. Be on your guard! Do not hate my obedience and do not love my self control. In my weakness, do not forsake me, and do not be afraid of my power. For why do you despise my fear and curse my pride? But I am she who exists in all fears and strength in trembling. I am she who is weak, and I am well in a pleasant place. I am senseless and I am wise." read deeply. Last Edited by nanuke on 01/14/2010 01:48 PM ~you are love ~the key...it's almost time. !poke the bulge! ~here is my hand...it can be closed like a fist...or open to hold...yet it is still my hand. ~Today is cancelled...due to lack of interest. ~Without order nothing exists. Without chaos nothing evolves. ac 618285: ~"without both order and chaos, the illusion would not be able to continue. one day in the far away future, order will submit to chaos and the entire illusion will vanish." -------------------------------- :nan1: |
Major User ID: 574846 ![]() 01/14/2010 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! What church leaders can't tell you, because they don't know, they're too busy chasing MAMMON (tithes, donations, drinking the wine of the harlot) and on account of their incompetence the beast is able to wage war against the holy ones and conquer them,(Rev.13:7). Quoting: Mr Black 864736BOOK OF REVELATION Chapter 12 1 -- A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 -- She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. 3 -- Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. 4 -- Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. ---------- The above states the woman clothed with the sun is wailing aloud in pain as she labors to give birth, the huge red dragon is awaiting to devour this child from her womb. The dragon is described as having seven heads and ten horns, this is the same beast in Revelation 13 verse 2 which this dragon gave its own power and throne, along with great authority. At the above point in time (Rev 12:4) -- Satan has given his power and throne to the first beast (10 horns/7 heads) but is still allowed to enter Heaven to prefer accusations against the inhabitants of earth while the first beast carries out the Dragon's agenda to swallow the child on earth. Today this beast (europe) has been rising since after WW2 and is fully mature and has begun to fulfill (although partially) Revelation 17 verse 16 whereby the beast is hating the harlot (USA) by competing for the denomination of the World oil-pie into the euro from the harlot (U$A) who has royal authority of, and in the nearby future (2012) will consume the flesh of the harlot (USA) and burn her with fire completing the verse in its entirety. Having said this, the child cannot be JESUS. 2012 -- Beast (vs) Harlot Thread. Thread: 1000 years is like 1 day for GOD -- 2 Peter 3:8 -- this equals to 41.666 <<-- BEWARE OF HIS WRATH BOOK OF REVELATION Chapter 12 5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to GOD and his throne. 6 -- The woman herself fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by God, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days. ---------- We know that the seven Churches are the first to be addressed in the Book of Revelation (chapter 1-3), and they are addressed as churches, not women. 'Woman' in the Book of Revelation is in reference of cities. The woman that flees into the desert is a city and among the many females who are pregnant and become pregnant they will give birth to the future of generations (holy ones) who will be connected to Heaven (caught-up) to carry out the LORD'S plan for those who were left behind. They will possess the Covenant of GOD (BoE) and triumph. The city is Jerusalem fearing Nuclear attack by the beast (Iran,Russia,Europe) its citizens run for cover in the desert. The verse say the city (woman) is taken care of for 1260 days, this is 3-and-half-years. THIS IS A BIG WAR -- 2012 America and mother England along with the rest of her sisters Canada and Australia and allies (Israel) don't take this very lightly, they fight back against the beast and the War progresses from a few missiles fired to a full scale War (conventional) and as the escalation progresses and becomes HOT (nuke) attempts by the Harlot to assassinate the Beast are made, probably the President of the European commission who receives a deadly head blow but demonically survives by the Power of Azazel -- (azazel's teachings), hence the verse "the beast that comes up from the abyss" (Rev.17:8) -- Little horn, the second beast arises. BOOK OF REVELATION Chapter 12 7 -- Then war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels battled against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back, 8 -- but they did not prevail and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 -- The huge dragon, the ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, who deceived the whole world, was thrown down to earth, and its angels were thrown down with it. 10 -- Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have salvation and power come, and the kingdom of our GOD and the authority of his Anointed. For the accuser of our brothers is cast out, who accuses them before our GOD day and night. 11 -- They conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; love for life did not deter them from death. 12 -- Therefore, rejoice, you heavens, and you who dwell in them. But woe to you, earth and sea, for the Devil has come down to you in great fury, for he knows he has but a short time." ---------- The end of the World as we know it approaches at this point because the Little horn has made its appearance. War breaks out in Heaven expelling Satan and his angels forever. These are the great signs and fire that come down from heaven to earth in the sight of everyone (Rev.13:13) Little horn will say he performed so as to deceive furthermore the inhabitants of the World. BOOK OF REVELATION Chapter 12 13 -- When the dragon saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 -- But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year. 15 -- The serpent, however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. 16 -- But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth. 17 -- Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus. It took its position on the sand of the sea. --------- the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring Satan wages war against the rest of her offspring, not those who were caught-up to GOD because they possess the Covenant -- rather those who keep God's commandments (Jews) and bear witness to Jesus (Christians). Those who were caught-up and possess the Covenant of GOD (book of enoch) will undergo a change and have the light rest upon them, they will teach the Jews and Christians the truth and together they call upon GOD and become victorious. [+] (1)Enoch 50 1 -- In those days the saints and the chosen shall undergo a change. The light of day shall rest upon them; and the splendour and glory of the saints shall be changed. 2 -- In the day of trouble evil shall be heaped up upon sinners; but the righteous shall triumph in the name of the LORD of spirits. 3 -- Others shall be made to see, that they must repent, and forsake the works of their hands; and that glory awaits them not in the presence of the LORD of spirits; yet that by his name they may be saved. The LORD of spirits will have compassion on them; for great is his mercy; and righteousness is in his judgment, and in the presence of his glory; nor in his judgment shall iniquity stand. He who repents not before him shall perish. ![]() ![]() It is to bad that you do not attend a Bible believeing church, Then you might get the un derstanding correct. Short version of Rev. 12 is: The WOMAN is Israel. (vs 1-4) The CHILD of the woman is of course JESUS.vs 5-6) Michael battles the DRAGON/Satan (vs 7-12) Dragon persecutts the Woman (vs 13-16) The REMNANT of Israel is verse 17. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 864736 ![]() 01/14/2010 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! The Book of Enoch is the first (alpha). The Book was once in the Bible only later removed by the beast-system. If you want to understand the prophetic events unfolding in the last book (Revelation) you will need to understand the first book (BoE), the Covenant of it all. Believe what you want -- I believe in Alpha-Omega! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 864736 ![]() 01/14/2010 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! The woman is the visible, large church on the earth today. The woman is Israel, and is also The Church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864701![]() Revelation 17 7 -- The angel said to me, "Why are you amazed? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, the beast with the seven heads and the ten horns. LOL -- 'Woman' in the Book of Revelation is in reference of cities. 18 -- The woman whom you saw represents the great city that has sovereignty over the kings of the earth." ![]() The woman is Israel, and is also The Church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864701![]() We know that the seven Churches are the first to be addressed in the Book of Revelation (chapter 1-3), and they are addressed as churches, not women. -- LOOK UP! ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 831992 ![]() 01/14/2010 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! gnosis/wisdom/sophia Quoting: nanukenag hammadi "I was sent forth from the power, and I have come to those who reflect upon me, and I have been found among those who seek after me. Look upon me, you who reflect upon me, and you hearers, hear me. You who are waiting for me, take me to yourselves. And do not banish me from your sight. And do not make your voice hate me, nor your hearing. Do not be ignorant of me anywhere or any time. Be on your guard! Do not be ignorant of me. For I am the first and the last. I am the honored one and the scorned one. I am the whore and the holy one. I am the wife and the virgin. I am the mother and the daughter. I am the members of my mother. I am the barren one and many are her sons. I am she whose wedding is great, and I have not taken a husband. I am the midwife and she who does not bear. I am the solace of my labor pains. I am the bride and the bridegroom, and it is my husband who begot me. I am the mother of my father and the sister of my husband and he is my offspring. I am the silence that is incomprehensible and the idea whose remembrance is frequent. I am the voice whose sound is manifold and the word whose appearance is multiple. I am the utterance of my name. Why, you who hate me, do you love me, and hate those who love me? You who deny me, confess me, and you who confess me, deny me. You who tell the truth about me, lie about me, and you who have lied about me, tell the truth about me. You who know me, be ignorant of me, and those who have not known me, let them know me. For I am knowledge and ignorance. I am shame and boldness. I am shameless; I am ashamed. I am strength and I am fear. I am war and peace. Give heed to me. I am the one who is disgraced and the great one. Be on your guard! Do not hate my obedience and do not love my self control. In my weakness, do not forsake me, and do not be afraid of my power. For why do you despise my fear and curse my pride? But I am she who exists in all fears and strength in trembling. I am she who is weak, and I am well in a pleasant place. I am senseless and I am wise." read deeply. Awesome Nanuke! This needs a bump... ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 864736 ![]() 01/14/2010 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! Nonsense. The male child who rules with a rod of iron is the one and only Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838139There is no other. The 'woman' who gives birth to Him is the family of nations of Abraham's descendants. The 'woman' who give birth to Jesus according to the New testament is the Virgin Mary. Stop making your own version of the Bible up. Both you fools are wrong! The woman is the blessed Virgin Mary and the Child is JESUSI'm not just saying that due to catholic belief but it is a proven fact! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864925You claim the woman to be Mary, and in Revelation 12 the dragon chases this women into a desert creating natural disasters (spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current), Mary being persecuted into the desert by Satan is not something small in nature or inconsequential to the Church, if this is what took place after Jesus rose from the grave and was taken to Heaven, then it would have been documented in the Gospels, in the letters from Paul, in Gnostic scriptures, and last but not least especially in the Gospel of Nicodemus. The fact that Satan was cast out of heaven on account of this woman, and the he (satan) felt venomous enough to pursue her into the desert begs that this event be detailed by the Apostles and you hold fast that such an event would not be documented in the letters of Paul? Neither in the Gospels of Mark,Luke,John,Peter,Matthew, and neither of Nicodemus? Makes perfect sense that if this event were in fact true as your fanatic imaginative mind believes it to be then it would have been documented in the Gospels, and in details. That's a pretty tall tale, but this is your opinion and you are entitled to it. ![]() It is to bad that you do not attend a Bible believeing church, Then you might get the un derstanding correct. Quoting: Major 574846You could only wish you received the education I was afforded. ![]() Your church leaders harlotry won't wash. Short version of Rev. 12 is: Quoting: Major 574846The WOMAN is Israel. (vs 1-4) The CHILD of the woman is of course JESUS.vs 5-6) The woman is the Virgin Mary if you claim the child is Jesus, that's what scripture say. You cannot change the Law. Michael battles the DRAGON/Satan (vs 7-12) Quoting: Major 574846Dragon persecutts the Woman (vs 13-16) This would mean the Dragon peruses Israel into the DESERT after Jesus is caught up to Heaven. 13 -- When the dragon saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 -- But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, 11 so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year. WHEN WAS ISRAEL CHASED INTO THE DESERT FOR 3-1/2-years after Jesus was caught up to GOD and his throne, (Rev.5:12). The REMNANT of Israel is verse 17. LOL -- ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 825010 ![]() 01/14/2010 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! Both you fools are wrong! The woman is the blessed Virgin Mary and the Child is JESUSI'm not just saying that due to catholic belief but it is a proven fact! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864925Oh my, another thread started asking the same question OP. The denial of Mary by Protestants. They are going to understand very soon. Mary is the woman in Revelation 12:1. See what personal interpretation of Scripture brings, confusion, errors Christians who decide for themselves will never get it right. Mary loves Protestants too, if only they would accept her. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 825010 ![]() 01/14/2010 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! People should read of the miraculous in the miracle of Mary's appearance to Juan Diego. You would be blown away by the story and the tilma. The tilma is a Heavenly painting of Revelation 12:1. ++ ++ +++ The apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary under the title of Our Lady of Guadalupe occurred between December 9 and December 12, 1531, at Tepeyac Hill near Mexico City, Mexico. A significant aspect of these apparitions is the miraculous portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe captured on the tilma of St. Juan Diego as proof of the authenticity of the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin to him. In this famous image (4), the Blessed Virgin is pregnant, standing on a cloud with a crescent moon under her feet, cloaked with a turquoise star-studded mantle, and completely surrounded by the brilliant light of golden rays¾a portrait that is clearly reminiscent of Rev. 12:1-2. "And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child" The image of St. Juan Diego's tilma was progressively revealed to Bishop Zumárraga of Mexico City on December 12, 1531 as the tilma was unfurled in the Bishop's presence, after the Bishop had requested proof of Our Lady's apparitions to Juan Diego. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 825010 ![]() 01/14/2010 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! People should read of the miraculous in the miracle of Mary's appearance to Juan Diego. You would be blown away by the story and the tilma. The tilma is a Heavenly painting of Revelation 12:1. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010++ ++ +++ The apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary under the title of Our Lady of Guadalupe occurred between December 9 and December 12, 1531, at Tepeyac Hill near Mexico City, Mexico. A significant aspect of these apparitions is the miraculous portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe captured on the tilma of St. Juan Diego as proof of the authenticity of the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin to him. In this famous image (4), the Blessed Virgin is pregnant, standing on a cloud with a crescent moon under her feet, cloaked with a turquoise star-studded mantle, and completely surrounded by the brilliant light of golden rays¾a portrait that is clearly reminiscent of Rev. 12:1-2. "And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child" The image of St. Juan Diego's tilma was progressively revealed to Bishop Zumárraga of Mexico City on December 12, 1531 as the tilma was unfurled in the Bishop's presence, after the Bishop had requested proof of Our Lady's apparitions to Juan Diego. ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 838779 ![]() 01/14/2010 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! People should read of the miraculous in the miracle of Mary's appearance to Juan Diego. You would be blown away by the story and the tilma. The tilma is a Heavenly painting of Revelation 12:1. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010++ ++ +++ The apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary under the title of Our Lady of Guadalupe occurred between December 9 and December 12, 1531, at Tepeyac Hill near Mexico City, Mexico. A significant aspect of these apparitions is the miraculous portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe captured on the tilma of St. Juan Diego as proof of the authenticity of the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin to him. In this famous image (4), the Blessed Virgin is pregnant, standing on a cloud with a crescent moon under her feet, cloaked with a turquoise star-studded mantle, and completely surrounded by the brilliant light of golden rays¾a portrait that is clearly reminiscent of Rev. 12:1-2. "And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child" The image of St. Juan Diego's tilma was progressively revealed to Bishop Zumárraga of Mexico City on December 12, 1531 as the tilma was unfurled in the Bishop's presence, after the Bishop had requested proof of Our Lady's apparitions to Juan Diego. I used to be a catholic, but then i decided to leave paginism and accept Christ. And no im not a protestant, but apart of the true remanet of God. The women is the church and the child is the remanet. Please wake up catholics/pagans |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 838779 ![]() 01/14/2010 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! People should read of the miraculous in the miracle of Mary's appearance to Juan Diego. You would be blown away by the story and the tilma. The tilma is a Heavenly painting of Revelation 12:1. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838779++ ++ +++ The apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary under the title of Our Lady of Guadalupe occurred between December 9 and December 12, 1531, at Tepeyac Hill near Mexico City, Mexico. A significant aspect of these apparitions is the miraculous portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe captured on the tilma of St. Juan Diego as proof of the authenticity of the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin to him. In this famous image (4), the Blessed Virgin is pregnant, standing on a cloud with a crescent moon under her feet, cloaked with a turquoise star-studded mantle, and completely surrounded by the brilliant light of golden rays¾a portrait that is clearly reminiscent of Rev. 12:1-2. "And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child" The image of St. Juan Diego's tilma was progressively revealed to Bishop Zumárraga of Mexico City on December 12, 1531 as the tilma was unfurled in the Bishop's presence, after the Bishop had requested proof of Our Lady's apparitions to Juan Diego. I used to be a catholic, but then i decided to leave paginism and accept Christ. And no im not a protestant, but apart of the true remanet of God. The women is the church and the child is the remanet. Please wake up catholics/pagans Oops i mean "paganism" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 854942 ![]() 01/14/2010 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! Both you fools are wrong! The woman is the blessed Virgin Mary and the Child is JESUSI'm not just saying that due to catholic belief but it is a proven fact! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010Oh my, another thread started asking the same question OP. The denial of Mary by Protestants. They are going to understand very soon. Mary is the woman in Revelation 12:1. See what personal interpretation of Scripture brings, confusion, errors Christians who decide for themselves will never get it right. Mary loves Protestants too, if only they would accept her. WHEN WAS MARY CHASED INTO THE DESERT BY SATAN FOR 3-1/2-years after Jesus was caught up to GOD and his throne. (Rev.5:12) ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 854942 ![]() 01/14/2010 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! Both you fools are wrong! The woman is the blessed Virgin Mary and the Child is JESUSI'm not just saying that due to catholic belief but it is a proven fact! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864925You do realise by making such a statement you are saying Jesus is not GOD ![]() Revelation 12 5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to GOD and his throne. ![]() ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 854942 ![]() 01/14/2010 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! If the woman is the Virgin Mary, then child is Jesus, only the next question is when did Satan chase the Virgin Mary into a desert for 3-1/2-years after Jesus was caught-up to GOD and his throne? ---------- The above is a ridiculous notion. The woman is a city, and the child are new born citizens, the rest of her offspring who keep God's commandments are the Jews and those who bear witness to Jesus are the Christians. The proof is in saint Daniel's book. Daniel 7 21 -- For, as I watched, that horn made war against the holy ones and was victorious 22 -- until the Ancient One arrived; judgment was pronounced in favor of the holy ones of the Most High, and the time came when the holy ones possessed the kingdom. and the time came when the holy ones possessed the kingdom and the time came when the holy ones possessed the kingdom When God's people (christians and jews) go underground fearing persecution from little horn, those who were caught-up and possess the Covenant will teach the Jews and Christians how to call upon the LORD of hosts by using the Covenant (BoE) and the Ancient of Days gives them victory. But for the Holy ones to possess the kingdom they need a King (son of man) who needs a Throne (temple). Covenant of the Ancient of Days. (1)Enoch 92 13 -- Afterwards there shall be another week, the eighth of righteousness, to which shall be given a sword to execute judgment and justice upon all oppressors. 14 -- Sinners shall be delivered up into the hands of the righteous, who during its completion shall acquire habitations by their righteousness; and the House of the great King shall be established for celebrations for ever. This is confirmed in saint Daniel's book. Daniel 7 13 -- As the visions during the night continued, I saw One like a son of man coming, on the clouds of heaven; When he reached the Ancient One and was presented before him, 14 -- He received dominion, glory, and kingship; nations and peoples of every language serve him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that shall not be taken away, his kingship shall not be destroyed. ALLELUIA -- '2' those who will be left behind, Godspeed! Thread: Alleluia '2' those who will be 'Left Behind' -- The righteousness of the Ancient of Days will not forsake you! ![]() ![]() |
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Watchman of Yahweh User ID: 864374 ![]() 01/14/2010 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! Want to know who the man-child is? It is a remnant that will come out of the church. They will look to keep Torah/law because they know when Yahshua said "not a dot or tittle of Torah will pass away before heaven and earth pass away" that he meant it. The will keep the true Sabbath because they know the Catholic church has no authority to override Scripture. The will keep the true festivals and appointed times of Yahweh such as Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles as prescribed in Leviticus and will forego and not celebrate pagan-originated festivals such as Christmas, Easter and Halloween. They will not believe the pre-tribulation deception but rather understand that after the tribulation when the son of man comes at the 7th and last trump of the archangel, the angels will be sent out to gather the elect from the four winds. The will understand that "once saved, always saved" is a lie for if you take the mark of the beast you will burn in eternal fire. They will not make pacts with the government through 501C3 corporations for they will rebuke and reprove wickedness wherever it is found even in government for they are beholden to Yahweh and no one else. The apostles and prophets will take their rightful place as the foundation of the church being guided by the cornerstone Yahshua. And in this remmant pastors will take their rightful place no longing lording over the prophets and apostles but being subject and obedient to them. The power of Yahweh has been missing in the church as they have believed lies and pastors have not let in the true apostles and prophets but that will change. In holiness, the power of the Holy Spirit will once again become manifest with miracles confirming the apostles and prophecies coming true vindicating the prophets. The man-child is already being formed and through the man-child great exploits will be done as they are a Messiah-type. Now you know, if you can believe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 825010 ![]() 01/14/2010 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! Want to know who the man-child is? It is a remnant that will come out of the church. They will look to keep Torah/law because they know when Yahshua said "not a dot or tittle of Torah will pass away before heaven and earth pass away" that he meant it. The will keep the true Sabbath because they know the Catholic church has no authority to override Scripture. The will keep the true festivals and appointed times of Yahweh such as Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles as prescribed in Leviticus and will forego and not celebrate pagan-originated festivals such as Christmas, Easter and Halloween. They will not believe the pre-tribulation deception but rather understand that after the tribulation when the son of man comes at the 7th and last trump of the archangel, the angels will be sent out to gather the elect from the four winds. The will understand that "once saved, always saved" is a lie for if you take the mark of the beast you will burn in eternal fire. They will not make pacts with the government through 501C3 corporations for they will rebuke and reprove wickedness wherever it is found even in government for they are beholden to Yahweh and no one else. The apostles and prophets will take their rightful place as the foundation of the church being guided by the cornerstone Yahshua. And in this remmant pastors will take their rightful place no longing lording over the prophets and apostles but being subject and obedient to them. The power of Yahweh has been missing in the church as they have believed lies and pastors have not let in the true apostles and prophets but that will change. In holiness, the power of the Holy Spirit will once again become manifest with miracles confirming the apostles and prophecies coming true vindicating the prophets. The man-child is already being formed and through the man-child great exploits will be done as they are a Messiah-type. Now you know, if you can believe. Quoting: Watchman of Yahweh 864374Watchman, How is God going to bring the thousands of differing Protestant groups together? How is He going to get them all to agree with one another, they never did in the past. There's been a new Protestant sect formed every week since Martin Luther's revolt. Protestant prophets don't proclaim Jesus is in the Holy Eucharist? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 825010 ![]() 01/14/2010 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Revelation 12, EXPLAINED! -- "woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet," -- Who she is, and who is her son! Want to know who the man-child is? It is a remnant that will come out of the church. They will look to keep Torah/law because they know when Yahshua said "not a dot or tittle of Torah will pass away before heaven and earth pass away" that he meant it. The will keep the true Sabbath because they know the Catholic church has no authority to override Scripture. The will keep the true festivals and appointed times of Yahweh such as Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles as prescribed in Leviticus and will forego and not celebrate pagan-originated festivals such as Christmas, Easter and Halloween. They will not believe the pre-tribulation deception but rather understand that after the tribulation when the son of man comes at the 7th and last trump of the archangel, the angels will be sent out to gather the elect from the four winds. The will understand that "once saved, always saved" is a lie for if you take the mark of the beast you will burn in eternal fire. They will not make pacts with the government through 501C3 corporations for they will rebuke and reprove wickedness wherever it is found even in government for they are beholden to Yahweh and no one else. The apostles and prophets will take their rightful place as the foundation of the church being guided by the cornerstone Yahshua. And in this remmant pastors will take their rightful place no longing lording over the prophets and apostles but being subject and obedient to them. The power of Yahweh has been missing in the church as they have believed lies and pastors have not let in the true apostles and prophets but that will change. In holiness, the power of the Holy Spirit will once again become manifest with miracles confirming the apostles and prophecies coming true vindicating the prophets. The man-child is already being formed and through the man-child great exploits will be done as they are a Messiah-type. Now you know, if you can believe. Quoting: Watchman of Yahweh 864374Watchman, Why is it you name only Jewish feast days? I thought we are in the New Covenant? Are you Jewish? If not, it's so obvious, you don't wish to recognize Catholic feast days because Protestants only have two, because of denying the Church Jesus established. So you all fall back on the Jewish feast days. Christmas and Easter...Protestants have to accept the two most important holy days. |
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