WTF !! ROYAL CARIBBEAN 'S SHIPS DOCKED AT HAITI RESORT WITH TOURISTS !! | |
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TunafishSammiches User ID: 516200 Canada 01/19/2010 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean remember that a large of number of Haitians were eating mud cookies (literally eating mud) before the earthquake to stay alive If the cruise ships can take in food aid and supplies, then better they do that (even with tourists aboard) |
Zephyr333 User ID: 860438 United States 01/19/2010 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone posted a thread about exotic tourism. Does this fall into that category? "I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes "Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson). "The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 849758 Australia 01/19/2010 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | vice president John Weis company CEO Adam Goldstein "Simply put, we cannot abandon Haiti now that they need us most." LOL Royal Caribbean, which recently raised eyebrows when it announced that it's organizing a "cougar cruise" for older single women Double LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 852697 United States 01/19/2010 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously, if this locale DEPENDS on tourism for its well-being, isn't it most ethical to continue providing that which puts food in these people's mouth? In addition, I think the fact that they're able to do both that AND deliver personnel and supplies to the island gives it two-fold merit. Not sure what's so wrong about it. If someone was killed in an apartment above a restaurant, should people stop going to that restaurant? What would happen to the owners of said restaurant? Is that fair to them? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 588705 United States 01/19/2010 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As sickening and distasteful as it is, I support the cruise ships continuing to stop at the private beach in Haiti. Depriving that local community of potential revenue is not going to help anyone in Port au Prince. If the ship's crew is delivering supplies while the passengers sit on the beach, so much the better. In situations like this, there is often no "right" choice, only the lesser of two evils. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 868204 United States 01/19/2010 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If large ship like the Royal Caribbean can dock, why can't other ships with supplys do the same? Quoting: HickorySheep, stop asking such intelligent questions! Let's see the elitist nations have been trying to kill off the Haitians for over 200 years. |
BRIEF AND TO THE POINT User ID: 865920 United States 01/19/2010 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They should start a new sport by strapping 20 lbs of t-bone steaks to each contestant and run through the main drag of Haiti. Whoever makes it back gets a refund of their cruise. Last Edited by BRIEF AND TO THE POINT on 01/19/2010 06:43 PM Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |
Rev. Spiralgazer User ID: 798834 United States 01/19/2010 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They should start a new sport by strapping 20 lbs of t-bone steaks to each contestant and run through the main drag of Haiti. Whoever makes it back gets a refund of their cruise. Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINTI love your warped sense of humor Brief! "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 516293 United States 01/19/2010 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how many Haitians left on that ship with new cheap labor jobs. Wouldn't doubt for one second that the real mission was to get some real cheap labor for the cruise ship under the guise of bringing supplies. Sorry if I am so pessimistic, but after all, remember the words of Rahm Emanuel, "never let a serious crisis go to waste." |
BRIEF AND TO THE POINT User ID: 865920 United States 01/19/2010 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They should start a new sport by strapping 20 lbs of t-bone steaks to each contestant and run through the main drag of Haiti. Whoever makes it back gets a refund of their cruise. Quoting: Rev. SpiralgazerI love your warped sense of humor Brief! Thank you. I don't see why the vacationers should have to bypass the island when they are far enough away as to not be noticed. They did nothing wrong. I have never felt bad about my success but can empathize with those that suffer. Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |
BRIEF AND TO THE POINT User ID: 865920 United States 01/19/2010 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They should start a new sport by strapping 20 lbs of t-bone steaks to each contestant and run through the main drag of Haiti. Whoever makes it back gets a refund of their cruise. Quoting: Rev. SpiralgazerI love your warped sense of humor Brief! Oh, and How You Do'n? Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 869187 United States 01/19/2010 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reminds me of the tourists getting a tan on the beaches after the tsunami while dead bodies were still being removed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 869227On the other hand how far of should the ships be to be "ethical"? I remember that also. Grotesque. |
BRIEF AND TO THE POINT User ID: 865920 United States 01/19/2010 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reminds me of the tourists getting a tan on the beaches after the tsunami while dead bodies were still being removed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 869187On the other hand how far of should the ships be to be "ethical"? I remember that also. Grotesque. So dead bodies should keep you from sun bathing? Hell, their dead they won't care. Shit, check their pockets they might have a twenty...they won't need it. Last Edited by BRIEF AND TO THE POINT on 01/19/2010 07:16 PM Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |
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Roger User ID: 869335 United States 01/19/2010 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only is it a bad thing - it a good thing. Supplies are being delivered, and money is being brought into the Haitian economy by this. Also, the area around where they dock wasnt seriously affected by the earthquake. With all the things in this world to get worked up over, this isnt one of them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 656642 United States 01/19/2010 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Despite the fact that the ships have delivered relief supplies to the island, some passengers on the ships are reportedly "sickened" over the decision to dock there. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 811285When Royal Caribbean announced its decision to resume stops at Labadee last week, a company executive cited the economic importance of the resort to the local citizens as well as the opportunity to deliver much-needed supplies. "We also have tremendous opportunities to use our ships as transport vessels for relief supplies and personnel to Haiti," said associate vice president John Weis. "Simply put, we cannot abandon Haiti now that they need us most." ..... The ships going back to Labadee, including Navigator of the Seas today, are obviously making a very valuable contribution to the relief effort by offloading supplies at Labadee. The media understand this and generally have written and spoken about the relief effort in positive terms. But in the last 24 hours, sparked by an article in the Guardian in the UK, a different and more critical view has emerged that questions how our guests can justify having a good time in Labadee when there is such misery less than 100 miles away. My view is this - it isn't better to replace a visit to Labadee (or for that matter, to stay on the ship while it's docked in Labadee) with a visit to another destination for a vacation. Why? Because being on the island and generating economic activity for the straw market vendors, the hair-braiders and our 230 employees helps with relief while being somewhere else does not help. These 500 people are going to need to support a much larger network of family and friends, including many who are in (or are missing in) the earthquake zone. Also, the north is going to bear a good part of the burden of the agony of the south, and the more economic support there is to the north, the better able the north will be to bear this burden. People enjoying themselves is what we do. People enjoying themselves in Labadee helps with relief. We support our guests who choose to help in this way which is consistent with our nearly 30 year history in Haiti. - Brett Michael Dykes is a contributor to the Yahoo! News blog I may get flamed for this but I think this is probably a great idea. Cruise ships can off load a ton of supplies and the tourists can contribute DIRECTLY to those in need in the affected area. Who said that it really has to be fun and games? If I was on that cruise I would have found a way to help a mission there that is helping with the relief efforts, at least then I would feel that maybe, just maybe the money donated would actually go to help the victims and not some CEO of an aid agency. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 656642 United States 01/19/2010 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how many Haitians left on that ship with new cheap labor jobs. Wouldn't doubt for one second that the real mission was to get some real cheap labor for the cruise ship under the guise of bringing supplies. Sorry if I am so pessimistic, but after all, remember the words of Rahm Emanuel, "never let a serious crisis go to waste." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516293OK cheap labor where they have potable drinking water, sanitary waste systems and real food, not mud cakes? If I was in such a desperate situation I would think it was a great opportunity to get food and shelter. What should the locals just sit on the island and continue to starve? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 869303 United States 01/19/2010 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As sickening and distasteful as it is, I support the cruise ships continuing to stop at the private beach in Haiti. Depriving that local community of potential revenue is not going to help anyone in Port au Prince. If the ship's crew is delivering supplies while the passengers sit on the beach, so much the better. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 588705In situations like this, there is often no "right" choice, only the lesser of two evils. Agree, dock there and let the tourist give them money and whatever they need in turn for some trinkets the locals don't need for survival. I know if I were on the ship I would support the local economy. It would hurt the Haitians even more for tourists to go away. Life goes on. Don't hurt the Haitians that survived and need money and other necessities. Get back to some normalcy. |
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