BREAKING: NASA Images Earth Sized Spherical Objects Inside Corona of SUN (UPDATE: 5/4/2010)

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You are the best !!!!!
Gazbom on the gasbom(b's) ...lol...

Just found different images that reveal our objects around the sun...

[link to www.lmsal.com]

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You are the best !!!!!
Gazbom on the gasbom(b's) ...lol...


Oh no that honour goes to 2cents and you people!

See what MR.Gurman makes of it, will he give us an answer?

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Well Mr. Gurman just wrote back, he doesn't check his spelling

What do you all make of this?

Joseph B. Gurman to me
show details 16:24 (28 minutes ago)


Hi, Mr. Walton -

There are no compression artifacts in that movie, because they've all been smoothed out. The dark-bright pairs of sets of pixels you see are caused by solar rotation: the movie is of _difference_ images; that is, each frame is a greyscale representation of the difference between (each pixel of) frame <n> in a series of equally spaced images in time and its predecessor, frame <n -1>. Thus, a piuxel that's brigher in frame <n> than frame <n - 1> will be bright in the difference image, &c. They show not only the rotation of bright features (left to right in the movie), but also waves and other transient phenomena.

Best,

Joe Gurman

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"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."

- Douglas Adams, 1952 - 2001


Joseph B. Gurman, Solar Physics Laboratory, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt MD 20771 USA


Black Hole Sun, nice song Krispy

Yoehoeeeeeee ...


COMPARE THESE:
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

and

[link to www.spacew.com]


Same timestamp but different views !!

Quote Aladin: "The only question is why there a million dollar instrument flying around - that creates little NASA program also includes a pixel without a template."

UPDATE:

"Quote:
EDIT

This image was created by subtracting the last two latest SOHO LASCO C2 images. The resulting image shows considerably more detail than the stand-alone images and allows scientists and space weather forecasters to spot locations of activity and very dim events.

White areas of the image are new coronal features that were not visible in previous C2 images. Black areas are old features.

IMPORTANT:

The data stream from which these images are taken contain occasional dark frame images. These dark-frame images will be handled the same as legitimate images. As a result, you may occasionally notice minor glitches in the quality of these difference images when dark-frames appear in the stream. We will be working to remove these dark frames from the data stream in the near-future.

Also, note that the quality of these images will be inferior to those provided by the SOHO LASCO team. The reason for this is the lower quality of the data used to produce these images. These images are taken from a raw data stream and are not calibrated or preprocessed to remove cosmic ray noise or other artifacts prior to subtracting the images. As a result, the images may not be as elegant as the final images provided by the LASCO science team, but they are definitely updated more frequently.

Don't expect perfect images from this service. There will be numerous flaws in the images. This is intended to be a quick-look service only, providing very rapid near-real-time subtracted image analysis. If you want near-perfect images, wait 6 to 12 hours and try to fetch them from the SOHO science team.

This is intended to be a quick-look service for near real-time subtracted image analysis."
[link to www.spacew.com]

SOOOOOoooooo ...
If I read this correctly
then these (black-white-grey) images are more pure and REAL than the images that are "fetched,finished and cleaned" ones provided by NASA 6 to 12 hours later ...

These images are realy RAW and thats good in my opinion.
yes they contain noise and glitches ... but they are more real then we can get.

Well Mr. Gurman just wrote back, he doesn't check his spelling

What do you all make of this?

Joseph B. Gurman to me
show details 16:24 (28 minutes ago)


Hi, Mr. Walton -

There are no compression artifacts in that movie, because they've all been smoothed out. The dark-bright pairs of sets of pixels you see are caused by solar rotation: the movie is of _difference_ images; that is, each frame is a greyscale representation of the difference between (each pixel of) frame <n> in a series of equally spaced images in time and its predecessor, frame <n -1>. Thus, a piuxel that's brigher in frame <n> than frame <n - 1> will be bright in the difference image, &c. They show not only the rotation of bright features (left to right in the movie), but also waves and other transient phenomena.

Best,

Joe Gurman

----
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by."

- Douglas Adams, 1952 - 2001


Joseph B. Gurman, Solar Physics Laboratory, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt MD 20771 USA


Black Hole Sun, nice song Krispy


- compression artifacts in that movie, because they've all been smoothed out
- caused by solar rotation
- show the rotation of bright features
- but also waves and other transient phenomena

- What else is smoothened out?
- So now the dots are caused by solar rotation???? And why are the dots in other images/movies/gif.video's are not caused by that solar rotation ? How come solar rotation does that????
- WHAT features ??? ... why dont he calls the things by understandable name ? How can solar rotation create bright features .. just like some groundfirework shows (gillende keukenmeiden, en die bromtol dingen die gekleurde vonkjes afgeven)> sorry dontknow how to say that in english
- What WAVES and transient phenomena ???

They seem to come up with loads of uncomprehensable (for me) stuff ... it's keeping it vague so that lateron every twist can be given to it ...

It sure gives me more questions than answers !!!!

Gaz
I know this post beneath is not obout the same images coz these are about the LASCO C2 and above is about euvi-beacon, and maybe it dont make sence at all,
but I cant explain I am scratching my head about it ... somehow it does not ad up with what Gurman says.


Yoehoeeeeeee ...


COMPARE THESE:
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

and

[link to www.spacew.com]


Same timestamp but different views !!

Quote Aladin: "The only question is why there a million dollar instrument flying around - that creates little NASA program also includes a pixel without a template."

UPDATE:

"Quote:
EDIT

This image was created by subtracting the last two latest SOHO LASCO C2 images. The resulting image shows considerably more detail than the stand-alone images and allows scientists and space weather forecasters to spot locations of activity and very dim events.

White areas of the image are new coronal features that were not visible in previous C2 images. Black areas are old features.

IMPORTANT:

The data stream from which these images are taken contain occasional dark frame images. These dark-frame images will be handled the same as legitimate images. As a result, you may occasionally notice minor glitches in the quality of these difference images when dark-frames appear in the stream. We will be working to remove these dark frames from the data stream in the near-future.

Also, note that the quality of these images will be inferior to those provided by the SOHO LASCO team. The reason for this is the lower quality of the data used to produce these images. These images are taken from a raw data stream and are not calibrated or preprocessed to remove cosmic ray noise or other artifacts prior to subtracting the images. As a result, the images may not be as elegant as the final images provided by the LASCO science team, but they are definitely updated more frequently.

Don't expect perfect images from this service. There will be numerous flaws in the images. This is intended to be a quick-look service only, providing very rapid near-real-time subtracted image analysis. If you want near-perfect images, wait 6 to 12 hours and try to fetch them from the SOHO science team.

This is intended to be a quick-look service for near real-time subtracted image analysis."
[link to www.spacew.com]

SOOOOOoooooo ...
If I read this correctly
then these (black-white-grey) images are more pure and REAL than the images that are "fetched,finished and cleaned" ones provided by NASA 6 to 12 hours later ...

These images are realy RAW and thats good in my opinion.
yes they contain noise and glitches ... but they are more real then we can get.


By the way
is the link to the beacon-movie altered ??? I mean I only see 1 dot in the upper left corner ... the 3 ones beneath the sun are no longer visable ..
Or am I loosing it now ????
[link to www.lmsal.com]
Did NASA an update and smooth-up?

@ Gaz
I know little of this,
but can a computerprogram detect wich photo or event your talking about? And why somethimes the answer short and somethimes long ...
Would a comp-prog make grammar faults?
(thought only people like me did that hahahaha)

ALL,

I see you have started other threads on this subject.

Please can we stick with this one thread, as it is difficult to follow so much info on, or about these sun objects.

Better to keep all our eyes focused here, then to go off in different directions, with facts that may not reach each thread.

If we stay focused, sharing together, it may be easier to find resolution in some way, instead of too many open ended theories.

Thanks for all the outstanding work you have put in.

I know for sure SURE !!!!! sure that the movie of earlier today showed multiple images following up ... making this gif.movie
Now they only display 2 TWO !!! two images ...
one with timestamp 03:25:30 and 09:05:30 ....
[link to www.lmsal.com]


BAS-TA-RDS ! ... :4:

@ Anonymous Coward 878276

That other threat is about historic things that refere to the sun and changes of the sun,
this one is to try to solve the current anomalies around the sun and her data.
I understand what 2cents tried to do, and he is right ...
but I also understand your way of thinking.

It is sad that almost everybody left or lost interrest or whatever.
But hey, thats how life goes ...
people will come back when new things come in the open. I guess. lol...

Posting above was mine ...lol.... took me too long hahahaha Those are images from the AHEAD

There are some incredible images there Krispy are you keeping all this stuff?

There are some incredible images there Krispy are you keeping all this stuff?


No not all, wich ones should I save?

No not all, wich ones should I save?


ALL OF THEM
Shouldn't you have a blog or a website?

You obviously have a flair for this kind of work?

No not all, wich ones should I save?


ALL OF THEM
Shouldn't you have a blog or a website?

You obviously have a flair for this kind of work?


No I am no good for making website ..lol... realy NOT GOOD it makes me go into panic hahahaha.
but I will closely look at the images of today and save the hovering ones and the black dots ... maybe we can make a movie out of it coz a lot of them make sence, they swarm from area to area.

"It is almost as if their shadow is beneath them .... WTF!!!"

do you realize how impossible that is? come on...

"It is almost as if their shadow is beneath them .... WTF!!!"

do you realize how impossible that is? come on...


Yes I know ... that is why I say AS IF !
But comeon, that is how it looks like even if it is an optic illusion.
I am only observing.

By the way, how strange is it that the sun vomits up some material that is now heading earth ?
(maybe I misunderstoot spaceweathers article)

If we can see opening sunspots, why cant we see the shadow of something that is there?

Nothing is impossible as long as our knowledge is just so limited.


@ Gaz
Eindhoven ;)