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Dogs-Rabies Vaccine. 1yr & 3yr are identical

 
Linda Darnbold
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Additionally, as if our pets need to suffer more, many vaccines are now known to be toxic and suspect in many of the ailments now surfacing in the pet population. Many states have decided that rabies vaccines do not need to be given annually, but every 3 or 4 years.

Many veterinarians are not being forthright in telling their clients. Do you wonder why that is?

Vaccines are very profitable. The cost the veterinarian pays for rabies is 60 to 90 cents. There really is not an incentive for the vet to say "your pet only needs to be vaccinated every 3 years; it is the same vaccine".

Additionally, animal control services often offer rabies vaccines at $1 to $5, and even hold "vaccinating" events in neighboring towns. Basically, I am saying - vaccines are bad and flea poisons are bad. The chemical industry, the drug industry and most veterinarians do not want people to know this. It seems that the media has a part in this. The public depends on the media to point out the good, the bad, and the ugly to them. How many people on the street know what a neurotoxin is? How many people even know the chemical name of a neurotoxin? A poison does not have to be as bad as a neurotoxin in order to be doing harm.

[link to www.thedogpress.com]

Good info on the site.
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After their initial rabies shot, I never get mine dogs done again. Why should I? They are indoor dogs. Not much chance of them coming in contact with a rabid squirrel or bat.
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In most states you need it to get a license.

My dog is old and I'm considering just skipping it next year. At 14 she's not likely to run away.
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We don't do any of the vaccine boosters, because the immunity typically lasts for years. Always have your dogs' titer levels measured (blood test) before giving more inoculations. And don't vaccinate until the puppy is at least 12 weeks old. Their immune system isn't developed enough until then to take advantage of the exposure from the viruses in the vaccines. Unfortunately, most states require dogs to have rabies vaccines every three years, at least. Our holistic vet gives them, but then she also gives us some herbs to help counter the side effects and accumulation of toxins (after the first round of vaccines for a puppy, of course).
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After their initial rabies shot, I never get mine dogs done again. Why should I? They are indoor dogs. Not much chance of them coming in contact with a rabid squirrel or bat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 871783

Normally I'd agree with that. My dog is 2 years old and just had his second rabies vaccine. The vet said the first one was only half the amount since he was less than 1 when he got it. Even though he is an indoor dog, he does play outside and we have (for some unknown reason) lots of rabid racoons. I live in a very high density suburb but we still have racoons. I can't take a chance of my dog getting bit by one.My county also has vaccines for a small donation.
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I just had my 13 year old dog at the vet for a hurt back. They tried to give her a rabies shot (been avoiding it for the last couple years). I've known this vet for a long time and I just begged and pleaded with him.... told him that vaccines make me nervous and I don't even vaccinate my children. He told me it's only every 3 years and that it's state law.... I just said that she's so old I don't want to do that to her. I finally asked him if we could do a titer test and so he had his lady at the front check the cost. They didn't offer it for the rabies, she said after checking around. He finally just told me to go..... I said "you're going to let us go" .... he was squirming and grimacing as he said again "it's state law"..... but just go. He acted like he was going to get in trouble for letting us out of there without it. I need to send him a nice gift card or something. :-)

I also avoided it in my other dog recently because he had a seizure and we were at the vet for that.... when the helper lady tried to tell me we needed the shot... I said that I was uncomfortable about it because he was having seizures. The doc let us out that time too.

Phew.

We're in TX.
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Puppy shots, that is all.

When dogs get rabbies it makes the local news. It is very rare.
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There are lots of options besides vaccines, titers have already been mentioned. These are simple blood tests that determine the antibody response to a vaccine. They can be done to monitor the response to a vaccine, to ensure that antibody level is adequate and booster is not needed, or to see if an animal has already been vaccinated. The other thing people should be aware of is that many vets waaaay overcharge for titers. There is no way a rabies titer should cost $400. No Way. Ask your vet if he or she is sending it directly to the lab where the test is done. Sometimes they send to a big contract type lab, that sends it out again...this doubles the price for everyone in the chain.
Another option is the homeopathic nosode. It is an oral remedy, given in increasing strength (which is paradoxically a decreasing concentration), as a preventative.
There is also not vaccinating. This is absolutely an option for someone who has a pet that is indoor only, or lives in an area that is free of the typical diseases we vaccinate against. However, if you live in an area where rabies is endemic, or have a puppy in a place where other dogs frequent, and it may be exposed to parvo virus...it is your responsibility to research thoroughly before making a choice, so that you understand the risks and benefits of vaccination.
Here is a link to the vaccine recommendations by the American Animal Hospital Association...they are middle of the road, and many vets are still doing way more than this
[link to www.aahanet.org]

and to find a holistic vet near you, here is a link to the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association
[link to www.holisticvetlist.com]
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My dog gets the shot to keep a license. Her license renews every 3 years. I've never had a dog that got sick from a vaccine. The ones that do die from vaccines don't get old enough to breed.

To be honest I think the cat and dog worshipping that many westerners do is disgusting, and sort of hypocritical. They want vets for their pets, but not the cows and chickens that they eat. Cows and chickens can be killed, but Fido and Felix have to live, even if that means medication and wheelchairs for pets? Bizarre.
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Additionally, as if our pets need to suffer more, many vaccines are now known to be toxic and suspect in many of the ailments now surfacing in the pet population. Many states have decided that rabies vaccines do not need to be given annually, but every 3 or 4 years.

Many veterinarians are not being forthright in telling their clients. Do you wonder why that is?

Vaccines are very profitable. The cost the veterinarian pays for rabies is 60 to 90 cents. There really is not an incentive for the vet to say "your pet only needs to be vaccinated every 3 years; it is the same vaccine".

Additionally, animal control services often offer rabies vaccines at $1 to $5, and even hold "vaccinating" events in neighboring towns. Basically, I am saying - vaccines are bad and flea poisons are bad. The chemical industry, the drug industry and most veterinarians do not want people to know this. It seems that the media has a part in this. The public depends on the media to point out the good, the bad, and the ugly to them. How many people on the street know what a neurotoxin is? How many people even know the chemical name of a neurotoxin? A poison does not have to be as bad as a neurotoxin in order to be doing harm.

[link to www.thedogpress.com]

Good info on the site.
 Quoting: Linda Darnbold 760960

this is true, the 1 and 3 year shots were identical.
I used to volunteer at an animal shelter. Part of my job was writing out those certificates after the shot.

If it was the first shot ever, or they had no proof of a previous shot, they told us to check off 1 year. If the animal had proof of a previous shot, we checked 3 year. What surprised me is that little kittens and puppies, cats and small dogs got the same dose as big dogs. I have heard they are actually good for 7 years.

A good vet will use the mercury free rabies shot, adjust the dose to the animal's size, and give the homeopathic antidote afterward. Then do titers before the next shot is due. If the titer comes back immune, the animal doesn't need an additional shot.
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as if poisoning the children wasn't enough they want to poison our pets too.


i don't believe the vets and clinics are in on it so to say, but the higher ups who make the laws definitely have their agenda.





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