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HAARP has deleted its records from 2010-1-11

 
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What I don't understand is; if HAARP semi-acknowledges their existence then, why would they have something accessible to the general public to scrutinize? It's like Area-51 making their maintenance records available for all to see!

I think this whole entire HAARP situation is something more than we can ever imagine. And the fact that the PTB allowed Jesse Ventura to air their dirty laundry again, makes me think something else is up with HAARP.


Or maybe *gasp* HAARP is exactly as they say it is and is a probe of the ionosphere? Just because 99% of you fail to understand plasma and it's importance in the universe and the effects EM radiation has on the plasma above us and the resulting weather like tsunamis, heat waves, cold waves etc. It's not just EQs... HAARP isn't the cause, HAARP is merely an observer. Understand that and you're on your way to understanding what is coming... Sure the shills here would LOVE for you to think the US have the power to create EQs. Too bad they don't.
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But we KNOW the government is capable of lying. So it's ingrained in (most of) us to doubt any and all things they feed to us as a possible 'cover-up'.

I personally question everything (especially when it comes to authority) and I don't complacently sit back and take in what they say just BECAUSE, they say it. In fact, I'd bode better if they denied HAARP all together rather than accept their ionsphere research admittance. If that was the case then, why wouldn't they talk to Ventura about it then?
Many high-profile people tell us it ISN'T what they claim it's supposedly designed for so............we the Sheeple stay dazed and confused just like they like us to be!
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the whole dang day is gone. we had to fire up that beast for hours and hours to cause an earth quake. you dont just get an earth quake by running the daggone thing for a few minutes. dang nabbit it takes time to cause global distruction. what do you people want from us? fancy people expecting fancy miracles.
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From 2004, but still a good read...

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UNCLASSIFIED
FY 2005 RDT&E,N BUDGET ITEM JUSTIFICATION SHEET

Complete all enhancements to HAARP interactive research, providing full capability to address all
anticipated applications for Naval undersea warfare operations.


Efforts include: Sensing, diagnostics, and detectors; navigation and timekeeping; nano-electronics; wide band
gap power devices; real-time targeting; EO/IR electronics; EO/IR electronic warfare; EO/IR sensors for
surface/aerospace surveillance; Radio Frequency (RF) sensors for surface/aerospace surveillance; solid state
electronics; vacuum electronics; advanced multi-function RF system (AMRFS); and RF electronic warfare.

[link to www.dtic.mil]
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Awesome. They caused the spiral.
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Calling me stupid because I asked her to explain what the evidence she presented means? She can't even explain the graph, that shows she knows nothing about it.
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pfft
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Is there any connection between Sun activity, the magnetosphere, HAARP, and the Haiti quake? Does any of this tie in together?
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yes. all.
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HAARP has deleted its records from 2010-1-11

Daniel Solis 2010-01-23 23:33:37

A very unusual deletion can be observed in the archived data of HAARP instrument readings from the day before the Haiti earthquake. (Perhaps it is a matter of time until it will get fixed with a simple copy-paste operation, but I have made screen shots of it).

Set the date in "Chart Archives" below the today's graph to 2001/Jan/11 in the window below the graph and see for your selves. It is the only instance of such an occurrence I have discovered by looking through other historical dates. Perhaps some other deletions have already been fixed, I can think of date like May 12th 2008 or December 26th 2004.

The graphs are here:
Spectrum Monitor Waterfall Chart
[link to maestro.haarp.alaska.edu]

HF Chart (1-30 Mhz)
[link to maestro.haarp.alaska.edu]

VHF chart (100-200 MHz)
[link to maestro.haarp.alaska.edu]

NCDXF Beacons (14.1 MHz)
[link to maestro.haarp.alaska.edu]

NCDXF Beacons (18.11 MHz)
[link to maestro.haarp.alaska.edu]

Also check patents related to HAARP to understand the technology of reversed piezoelectric effect in which earth can tremble when energy is applied to ionosphere. Scientific references will be underlining this further in this post:
The patents are from greater part owned by a LARGE defense contractor:

www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2003/press_28032003.​html

- US Patent 4686605 - Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
www.patentstorm.us/patents/4686605/fulltext.html

- US Patent 4999637 - Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth
www.patentstorm.us/patents/4999637/fulltext.html

- US Patent 4712155 - Method and apparatus for creating an artificial electron cyclotron heating region of plasma
www.patentstorm.us/patents/4712155/description.html

- US Patent 5777476 - Ground global tomography (CGT) using modulation of the ionospheric electrojets
www.patentstorm.us/patents/5777476/fulltext.html

- US Patent Application 20070238252 - Cosmic particle ignition of artificially ionized plasma patterns in the atmosphere
www.patentstorm.us/applications/20070238252/fulltext.html

US Patent 5068669 - Power beaming system
www.patentstorm.us/patents/5068669/fulltext.html

US Patent 5041834 - Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be tilted
www.patentstorm.us/patents/5041834/description.html

Just lets remember the scenario 6 years ago:
Did New York Orchestrate The Asian Tsunami?
[link to www.reformation.org]

and turn to some scientific backing:
Ionospheric Precursors of Earthquakes; Recent Advances in Theory
and Practical Applications
[link to tao.cgu.org.tw]

Theoretical Model of Possible Disturbances in the Nighttime Mid-Latitude Ionospheric D Region over an Area of Strong-Earthquake Preparation
(Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere, and Radio-Wave Propagation of the Russian Academy of Sciences)
[link to www.springerlink.com]

Relationship between microseisms, geomagnetic activity and ionospheric absorption of radio waves
(Geophysical Institute, Czechosl. Acad. Sci., Prague)
[link to www.springerlink.com]

MODELING OF THE ACOUSTO-ELECTROMAGNETIC METHOD FOR IONOSPHERE MONITORING
(Karpenko Physico-Mechanical Institute of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine)
[link to www.ursi.org]

And let us not forget that there is a functioning smoke screen cover up mechanism, as seen in the case of the Tromsø / Norway spiral which has been later ludicrously attributed to a russian Bulava missile test - which was taking place hundreds miles away:
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Data from HAARP style ionosphere heating facility EISCAT in Ramfjordmoen just over the mount Tromsdalstinden only dozens of miles away from Tromsø, during apparition of the spiral:

Daily plan for the 9th of December 2009 and the time frame:
[link to www.eiscat.se]
power consumption data of the facility:
[link to dynamite.eiscat.uit.no]
particularly
[link to t0.gstatic.com]

EISCAT facility can be easily located on google maps or google earth, under 'EISCAT'
Tromsø can be seen near by to the north. Its coordinates are: 69°39'07? N 018°57'12? E
Here is where the Russian missile was supposed to fly:

NAVTEX warning:

ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1. ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC
09 DEC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA 65-12.6N 036-37.0E
65-37.2N 036-26.0E 66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
2. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 101000 DEC=
NNNN

If you put these coordinates to google earth you will see what I mean. This is how the public is being constantly misled on everything.
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well other area in haitie are having quakes and pther regions, so are there any records bout the most recent quakes .? phen this is a exc article .. but is the source reliable ???
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Very long article, but well worth reading - electromagnetism (human, earth, solar), the Ionosphere and HAARP technology. Specifically 1/2 way down is HAARP focus:

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Clearly, the dangers from conventional EM pollution sources and solar system dynamics are substantial on their own. But the potentials from so-called "ionospheric heaters" are truly frightening, for we have no idea what possibilities can emerge from long-term meddling with the delicate balance of the ionosphere and global temperature, which is also linked to a world-wide oceanic pumping system whose source lies off Greenland.

Tesla technology has been applied in a variety of ways, through the HAARP Project, (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Progam), which might have cavalierly been called, "How to Exploit the Ionosphere for Fun and Profit." Yet this is No Joke! There are smaller systems at Arecibo, Puerto Rico; Fairbanks Alaska; Tromso, Norway, Moscow, Nizhny Novgorod and Apatity, Russia; Kharkov, Ukraine and Dushanbe, Tadzhikstan.

HAARP is the largest of the so-called 'ionospheric heaters'. The ionosphere begins approximately 35 miles above the surface and extends out beyond 500 miles. It contains both positively and negatively charged particles known as ions and electrons naturally created as a result of the action of the sun's radiation (solar winds). The ionosphere is capable of strong interaction with radio waves -- distorting them, totally reflecting or absorbing them. Downward propagating waves can couple into the Earth-ionospheric wave guide.

H. L. Roland, expert in beam and plasma physics at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington D.C. says it is possible to modulate the ambient current flowing in the ionosphere. The auroral electrojet can be manipulated to generate extremely low frequency (ELF) and very low frequency (VLF) radiation. This ionospheric modification technique can provide such waves for probing both the Earth and the ionosphere-magnetosphere. The modification occurs in the lower D-region and can provide information about the ambient conditions in one of the least diagnosed regions of the ionosphere.

HAARP's massive antenna-array (360 72 foot tall antennas, over a thirty-three acre field, acting as one giant array) is managed by the US Air Force and US Navy in Gakona, Alaska (200 miles east of Anchorage). It heats the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam designed to simulate and control ionospheric process. Gigawatts of effective radiated power of high frequency radio energy are pumped into the ionosphere. The transmitter (a particle injection device) can produce a beam anywhere from several miles to several tens of miles in radius, using the 2.5-10 megahertz frequency range, at more than 3 gigawatts of power (3 billion watts) creating plumes of charged particles.

In 1998 input power was raised to 10 gigawatts, transmittable in the the north-south or east-west direction. Reports say in each transmission cycle, HAARP switches from the east-west to the north-south beams and back again, producing a spiraling or "cork-screwing" upward at 0.9Hz.. This is called "circular polarization" of the radio signal. It makes ions in the upper atmosphere move in big circles with a one second lap time.

Optimum lap time is dictated by the plasma density related to the temperature, number of ions and neutral atoms in the ionosphere. This makes the ions, both electrons and protons, into little electromagnets. HAARP also can function as a particle gun. The particles shoot off into space, still spiraling and magnetic, following the earth's magnetic field lines, completing a circuit from pole to pole in one second.

A number of public reasons for this project are given, including ELF communications for submarines, but another host of surveillance and covert military applications are suspected, based on Tesla's original descriptions of the powers of such a massive pulse technology, including mind-control experiments. Detractors have called HAARP a "skybuster" since it effectively slices through the ionosphere like a microwave knife, producing a long tear or incision.

As the Earth rotates, HAARP slices across geomagnetic flux (a donut-shaped spool of magnetic strings like longitude meridians on maps). HAARP may not 'cut' these strings in the magnetic mantle, but does pulse each thread with harsh, disharmonious high frequencies, whose noisy impulses vibrate geomagnetic flux lines, sensing shuddering vibrations throughout the geomagnetic web. We can only conjecture at this point about its effects on the foundations of human electromagnetic function.

Paul Schaefer, electrical engineer, alleges that radiation excites large numbers of tiny unstable particles, high-velocity particles in the atmosphere and Van Allen Belts and can be the villain in weather disruption as Earth discharges the buildup of heat, relieving stress and tectonic strain through earthquakes and volcanic action.

Ionospheric heaters deliberately create instabilities in the plasma layer of the ionosphere to rev up the the energy level of charged particles. This results also in electronic rain from the sky -- electron precipitation from the magnetosphere. It is caused by man-made very low frequency EM waves. The precipitated particles can produce secondary ionization, emit X-rays, and cause significant perturbation in the lower atmosphere, potentially affecting human brainwaves, and even our evolution, if Hainsworth is correct.

Thus, we see that HAARP can be employed for nefarious weather modification, which can also damage the ozone layer and cause earthquakes. An electronic beam can ionize or de-ionize the atmosphere over a given area, including military targets. Thus, the key to geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities where adding a small amount of energy can release vastly greater amounts of energy. Hopefully

[link to biophysics.50megs.com]
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Calling me stupid because I asked her to explain what the evidence she presented means? She can't even explain the graph, that shows she knows nothing about it.


dude, she's presenting info that is of great significance for a lot of people

just by that mere fact alone you should be more respectful

why dont YOU explain to us what the charts mean and offer something constructive to the discussion instead of the usual run of the mill trolling..
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Phenom gets the same level of respect from responders that she shows to others...very little.
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You can mock, insult and do whatever you wish to me, but the information I present is true, you can't even disprove a single thing. Look at the replies to my posts. The proof is in the pudding as they say.
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Of course the shills and disinfo agents want you to believe the US has the power to create EQs with HAARP. Like some kind of animal's defence mechanism, you puff yourselves up to look bigger and stronger than you are. Anyone claiming HAARP is an EQ machine is merely helping the disinformation spread. Hopefully some of the disease carriers of dis(eased)-information are smart enough to see this.

Look at how they want you to look at the wrong things, to form the wrong connections and relationships between related objects, but related in a way you don't understand. Important things to note is that the activity in the magnetosphere (plasma) is tied to extreme weather events, simple. Not some man made machine. HAARP simply records and observes, just like humans should be doing.

Stop the spread of dis(eased)-information.

and youve provided (as expected) nothing to the contrary to suggest otherwise. so with that said - youve got about as much credibility as ol slick willy. *one more thing, re the spread of disease, your mother should have used a condom. jus sayin.




Anyone who disagrees with you is a shill? Ok, maybe in your insane mind. I thought this was a discussion forum, not a preaching of beliefs. Where is your PROOF of HAARP CAUSING the EQs? Do you even have any idea how much energy a single EQ creates? This isn't even your idea, it's not even remotely original, it's been bleated and rebleated so many times. Did I hit a nerve with my post? It seems so. The only shill here is you, whether you realise it or not because of your sick mind.

Like I stated, the only thing you KNOW is HAARP is recording the ionospheric activity. Anything else is pure speculation and/or lies. You're too stupid, too blind or too ignorant to understand that HAARP is merely a machine we built to probe the unseen above us. That much is clear. Oh and BTW, do you even understand what the graphs you see are? Why don't you explain to people what the graphs are?
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Look at how Queen Bitch Phenom uses her manipulations as Venom. She attacks that which is true, despite her signature! Or maybe she doesn't want you to know the truth? She's too stupid to understand any of this, so why is she doing this? Think people...

Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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Xenus, what is it YOU are NOT understand
ing????
ANY of us COULD have posted Phen's link. You are attacking like a pitt bull for no other reason than who is the messenger! I DON'T and wouldn't EXPECT anyone here to understand all the details. One thing is for sure, whether you admit it or not, some things taking place are very odd.

Now why don't you scoot out of this thread since you aren't contributing anything of any worth? Go! Git! Be GONE!!
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hey xenius

no one ever said HAARP caused ALL EQ's for God sake


stfu already!
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well other area in haitie are having quakes and pther regions, so are there any records bout the most recent quakes .? phen this is a exc article .. but is the source reliable ???
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the links are from haarp. missing and or altered data. gotta question it hmm
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Of course the shills and disinfo agents want you to believe the US has the power to create EQs with HAARP. Like some kind of animal's defence mechanism, you puff yourselves up to look bigger and stronger than you are. Anyone claiming HAARP is an EQ machine is merely helping the disinformation spread. Hopefully some of the disease carriers of dis(eased)-information are smart enough to see this.

Look at how they want you to look at the wrong things, to form the wrong connections and relationships between related objects, but related in a way you don't understand. Important things to note is that the activity in the magnetosphere (plasma) is tied to extreme weather events, simple. Not some man made machine. HAARP simply records and observes, just like humans should be doing.

Stop the spread of dis(eased)-information.

and youve provided (as expected) nothing to the contrary to suggest otherwise. so with that said - youve got about as much credibility as ol slick willy. *one more thing, re the spread of disease, your mother should have used a condom. jus sayin.




Anyone who disagrees with you is a shill? Ok, maybe in your insane mind. I thought this was a discussion forum, not a preaching of beliefs. Where is your PROOF of HAARP CAUSING the EQs? Do you even have any idea how much energy a single EQ creates? This isn't even your idea, it's not even remotely original, it's been bleated and rebleated so many times. Did I hit a nerve with my post? It seems so. The only shill here is you, whether you realise it or not because of your sick mind.

Like I stated, the only thing you KNOW is HAARP is recording the ionospheric activity. Anything else is pure speculation and/or lies. You're too stupid, too blind or too ignorant to understand that HAARP is merely a machine we built to probe the unseen above us. That much is clear. Oh and BTW, do you even understand what the graphs you see are? Why don't you explain to people what the graphs are?


Look at how Queen Bitch Phenom uses her manipulations as Venom. She attacks that which is true, despite her signature! Or maybe she doesn't want you to know the truth? She's too stupid to understand any of this, so why is she doing this? Think people...

Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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Pftt! By any chance, are you married? Or did your spouse leave you ages ago for being a nagging shrew? You don't know when to give it up. PLEASE, LEAVE!!!!!!! I can't tell ya how many threads I have turned away from because of you "debating" (cough, cough)others' information. I am about convinced you really ARE paid to do this.
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OK, so the OP has shown us ignorance of the graphs she is using, which show RADIO FREQUENCIES. Then I gave her a chance to explain the graphs, she did not, then I showed her the EM frequency table, she ignored it too. I tried to explain how the energies from space are far, FAR greater than we have EVER achieved and yet she still continues to ignore and act stupid.

Sorry, but I know a liar when I see one. There is a difference between knowing and understanding something and believing in something, huge difference. Obviously she doesn't know shit. Those are the facts, funny how no one here has been able to disprove a single thing I have posted. Oh right, you can't disprove reality/truth, you can only smear it with lies. You chose to insult the wrong person Queen Bitch, stop now, admit you were wrong and you will be forgiven. Final chance you're getting from me... You don't want to piss me off.
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ooooooo newsflash fukko, ive crapped bigger than ya. and if youre gonna make threats of any kind - you'll just end up guaranteeing yourself a ride on the aladdin magic carpet out of here.

**and i wont acknowledge you. why? because you didnt say the magic word.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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hey xenius

no one ever said HAARP caused ALL EQ's for God sake


stfu already!
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dude - hes a pro shill...you saw his failed attempt to derail. hes foolin no one here.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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well other area in haitie are having quakes and pther regions, so are there any records bout the most recent quakes .? phen this is a exc article .. but is the source reliable ???

the links are from haarp. missing and or altered data. gotta question it hmm
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Phenn, any thoughts on why Haiti? What is of value to anyone there?

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It's obvious the shill has a beef with OP, seems jealous and pathetic! She is pretty open about being the Queen of mean if you can't deal, then move along. Her info to me always seem extremely reliable. You can rant and throw a hissy all u want but I can bet she will be here longer than you will!
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dude - hes a pro shill...you saw his failed attempt to derail. hes foolin no one here.
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You never explained the graphs ....
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ha ha ha you people kill me ... :)
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What is up with all of these personal accusations? How do you even know someone's personal life?
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Phenn, any thoughts on why Haiti? What is of value to anyone there?

inquisitio
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we went rounds in voice chat - heres what we all came up with and we have to be nearing root cause bc we heard the same out of bob chapman and dr deagle a week later etc

poor country
corrupt gov
gold - mineral rich
haiti sits above an oil reserve
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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dude - hes a pro shill...you saw his failed attempt to derail. hes foolin no one here.


You never explained the graphs ....
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you didnt say the magic word. i dont respond to commands.
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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You chose to insult the wrong person Queen Bitch, stop now, admit you were wrong and you will be forgiven. Final chance you're getting from me... You don't want to piss me off.
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Damn, people, if this isn't a threat! Phen, be careful out there!
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You chose to insult the wrong person Queen Bitch, stop now, admit you were wrong and you will be forgiven. Final chance you're getting from me... You don't want to piss me off.




Damn, people, if this isn't a threat! Phen, be careful out there!
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no worries - taken care of wink
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
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The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Now that the thread is pinned, why don't you go ahead and explain to people what the graphs, aka you evidence, mean?





Xenus, what is it YOU are NOT understand
ing????
ANY of us COULD have posted Phen's link. You are attacking like a pitt bull for no other reason than who is the messenger! I DON'T and wouldn't EXPECT anyone here to understand all the details. One thing is for sure, whether you admit it or not, some things taking place are very odd.

Now why don't you scoot out of this thread since you aren't contributing anything of any worth? Go! Git! Be GONE!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 748723


Obviously you're all too fucking stupid to understand that these events are caused by space events. Did you not see how she attacked me when I merely pointed out her errors and her inability to explain the graphs? How could you trust a person who doesn't even know shit about what she is talking about? Seriously? That is called belief and your faith in her beliefs is sickening, further evidence of your insanity.

How many times did I say HAARP MEASURES AND OBSERVES the PLASMA above us in the IONOSPHERE? We also have the MAGNETOSPHERE which is further out and is where our atmosphere meets the solar wind and space. She's distracting you from the reality, the reality being that the causes are not HAARP but something in SPACE. In our SOLAR SYSTEM. I laugh at how you idiots seem to think the US can create EQs with HAARP, despite the ENERGIES REQUIRED. The table I provided shows you how much energy we get from the sun alone each day, 12 on the richter scale!
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Herd/sheep mentality sickens me, but you'll get what is coming, don't worry about that...
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dude - hes a pro shill...you saw his failed attempt to derail. hes foolin no one here.


You never explained the graphs ....
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And who are YOU, Xenus' butt-buddy??? NO poster has to explain anything copy-pasted, for the group to analyze and discuss. Get a real life.
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Obviously you're all too fucking stupid to understand that these events are caused by space events. Did you not see how she attacked me when I merely pointed out her errors and her inability to explain the graphs? How could you trust a person who doesn't even know shit about what she is talking about? Seriously? That is called belief and your faith in her beliefs is sickening, further evidence of your insanity.

How many times did I say HAARP MEASURES AND OBSERVES the PLASMA above us in the IONOSPHERE? We also have the MAGNETOSPHERE which is further out and is where our atmosphere meets the solar wind and space. She's distracting you from the reality, the reality being that the causes are not HAARP but something in SPACE. In our SOLAR SYSTEM. I laugh at how you idiots seem to think the US can create EQs with HAARP, despite the ENERGIES REQUIRED. The table I provided shows you how much energy we get from the sun alone each day, 12 on the richter scale!
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Herd/sheep mentality sickens me, but you'll get what is coming, don't worry about that...
 Quoting: Xenus 869756

dude you gonna be ok? do i have to call you the "wahhhhbulance?"...here have a lifesaver, it will make you feel better.
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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