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HAARP has deleted its records from 2010-1-11

 
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dude - hes a pro shill...you saw his failed attempt to derail. hes foolin no one here.


You never explained the graphs ....

you didnt say the magic word. i dont respond to commands.


Yes, I'm a shill that provides evidence and proof of what I say, wow what a shill I am... The only one doing the shilling here is yourselves. I gave you a chance, you did not take it, any simpleton could have worked out the graph by now. Instead you chose to show people you know nothing. That's all I needed. Thanks. You do all the work for me.

What's wrong Queen Bitch, not used to being questioned? You expect people to eat your shit up and love it? How does it taste? Your little pets love it. It just pours from your mouth and fingers all the time.

I'm still waiting for the energy read outs that she claims are from HAARP which cause EQs. And I just have to point out nothing I stated was proven wrong, one of us is lying, so why don't you do some searching and find out who?
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you just can't see the big picture...
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you know if you fuckers spent less time on who posts what, how many stars yours got over someone elses thread,

YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING!

GROW THE FUCK UP
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Yes, I'm a shill that provides evidence and proof of what I say, wow what a shill I am... The only one doing the shilling here is yourselves. I gave you a chance, you did not take it, any simpleton could have worked out the graph by now. Instead you chose to show people you know nothing. That's all I needed. Thanks. You do all the work for me.

What's wrong Queen Bitch, not used to being questioned? You expect people to eat your shit up and love it? How does it taste? Your little pets love it. It just pours from your mouth and fingers all the time.

I'm still waiting for the energy read outs that she claims are from HAARP which cause EQs. And I just have to point out nothing I stated was proven wrong, one of us is lying, so why don't you do some searching and find out who?


man this guy's really got a corn cob up his ass....;)
question is....was it placed there deliberately?


FUz - hes a stiff. rigor mortis. every time he replies with the same shilling whiny assed vomit i expect the team from CS fuckin I to come and run a chalk line around his posts.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

You know he probably would have gone away a long time ago if you hadn't repeatedly insulted him and shown your ignornace.

If that makes me a shill, so be it. Classless insults in response to legitimate questions don't deserve to be respected.

I come to threads like this and want to give you a chance, Phenom, but you drop straight to insults and User ID searches and you think that posting that information somehow equates to a victory even though you ignore the questions or points that these people make.

It's really silly and really it's only good for a laugh. Anyone who is truly a free thinker can see right through your charade.

Your ammo? Insults and User ID searches. Wow.

And oh yeah, don't forget the clever gif's. Deadly.

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Maybe the debunking geniuses could muster up the energy to simply google "Tesla's earthquake machine"(my 12yr old told me of this!). The govt CAN and DOES cause earthquakes. Tesla's device was small enough to put in his pocket.
Think maybe our govt used a device that small to bring down the twin towers? It would explain alot!



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You are strange. You take your fancy talk and your fancy links and you go on now. As for me I like plain speak from people who aint so dang fancy.
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ha-ha just like Clarise Starling - 'go on now'...
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hmmmmm!
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I never said HAARP cannot be used for weather manipulation, but compared to the scales and energies of the universe and solar system which create weather, it's just an expensive toy. Ozone is destroyed and created constantly, although destroyed is not the right term to use. Lightning creates ozone, all sparks do, hence the ozone smell. People can't grasp the energies of the universe because the numbers are so large it's outside most people's understanding...

HAARP can only create localized weather disturbances but EQs as you can see in the scale are extremely powerful... Ionospheric heaters can barely create short lived aurora! So I am still waiting on real proof that HAARP can cause a massive EQ. This is exactly why information is kept from you, you people leap to conclusions outside your understanding. Just like EISCAT did not have the energy to create the spiral in Norway, HAARP does not have the energies require to create EQs. Unless they they have some power source we don't know about, as in harnessing the energy from the universe. Then maybe they can re-direct the energy to a location of their choosing. That's a big IF however and no proof I know of to support it.

You should focus not on HAARP but rather what it is focused on! Don't you see they're probing these high-ultra high energy events to see what happens and what the effects on Earth are? Do you understand what the ionosphere is? It's plasma... our atmospheric gases in the state of plasma, not as much as the magnetosphere however but still enough. We're all human beings, we should all be on the same "side". The side of truth, the reality, the universe.
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More info on haarps ability to produce earthquakes:


[link to thesop.org]

1/2 down the page it reads:

Of course, with HAARP`s power and frequency range, one of the main reasons for the HAARP project is to alter the performance of surveillance and communications systems. The HAARP instillation shoots frequencies into the ionosphere to temporarily remove the protective layer of the atmosphere in small areas that allows the sun`s solar winds to penetrate through the hole that is poked in the ionosphere by the HAARP installation.

With the power to change the face of the earth`s atmosphere, there is a potential to affect the weather, destroy instillations on the ground, destroy orbiting satellites, and there`s even been a proposition of mind control at the right frequency and power. Also, with HAARP able to beam frequencies at extremely intense power may even have the potential to create disturbances in the earth`s stability. With the example of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse in 1940 due to the wind that hit the resonating frequency of the bridge, ultimately resulting in an earthquake-like effect before the bridge was completely destroyed.

If the wind can get to the frequency required to cause an earthquake effect on a bridge, imagine what a controlled frequency at extremely high powers could potentially cause if it were to hit the resonating frequency of certain elements in the earth.
The wind`s effect on the Tacoma Narrows Bridge was an example of the catastrophic effects possible when the correct frequency was hit, even without much energy. Knowing the resonating frequency of the earth`s components could then potentially be used as a weapon that may cause an earthquake, not due to the normal shifts of the earth`s tectonic plates, but rather due to the earth`s resonation from a high powered, adjustable antenna installation.

With power like this, there are definitely some ethical question it brings up. Should men try to play the role of a god and alter the factors of the earth that man has never been able to take control of? If it can produce an earthquake, would it be ethical to use it where there could be innocent people affected by the quake`s catastrophic movements? These are just a few of the questions that may be more than we can answer with any certainty but should definitely be considered if an installation like this can harvest such incredible power.

HAARP is showing lots of promise to help many people by being able to give rain when needed, find resources that could help bring prosperity to a country and many other potentially beneficial applications. However, as Lord Acton is remembered to have said Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely ?. Is the world ready for an installation of this power? Can men handle a tool of this magnitude? I suppose only time can tell, but this is a testament as to how our civilization is progressing, and what tools and super weapons are being developed.
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I come to threads like this and want to give you a chance, Phenom, but you drop straight to insults and User ID searches and you think that posting that information somehow equates to a victory even though you ignore the questions or points that these people make.

It's really silly and really it's only good for a laugh. Anyone who is truly a free thinker can see right through your charade.

Your ammo? Insults and User ID searches. Wow.

And oh yeah, don't forget the clever gif's. Deadly.
 Quoting: The Philosopher Stoned



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I never said HAARP cannot be used for weather manipulation, but compared to the scales and energies of the universe and solar system which create weather, it's just an expensive toy. Ozone is destroyed and created constantly, although destroyed is not the right term to use. Lightning creates ozone, all sparks do, hence the ozone smell. People can't grasp the energies of the universe because the numbers are so large it's outside most people's understanding...

HAARP can only create localized weather disturbances but EQs as you can see in the scale are extremely powerful... Ionospheric heaters can barely create short lived aurora! So I am still waiting on real proof that HAARP can cause a massive EQ. This is exactly why information is kept from you, you people leap to conclusions outside your understanding. Just like EISCAT did not have the energy to create the spiral in Norway, HAARP does not have the energies require to create EQs. Unless they they have some power source we don't know about, as in harnessing the energy from the universe. Then maybe they can re-direct the energy to a location of their choosing. That's a big IF however and no proof I know of to support it.

You should focus not on HAARP but rather what it is focused on! Don't you see they're probing these high-ultra high energy events to see what happens and what the effects on Earth are? Do you understand what the ionosphere is? It's plasma... our atmospheric gases in the state of plasma, not as much as the magnetosphere however but still enough. We're all human beings, we should all be on the same "side". The side of truth, the reality, the universe.
 Quoting: Xenus 869756



isn't it possible that HAARP is being used in tandem with something we don't know about?

maybe electro magnetic equipment based around tesla technology
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So Hugo Chavez IS right?

If so, then was George Bush really the devil?
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Maybe the debunking geniuses could muster up the energy to simply google "Tesla's earthquake machine"(my 12yr old told me of this!). The govt CAN and DOES cause earthquakes. Tesla's device was small enough to put in his pocket.
Think maybe our govt used a device that small to bring down the twin towers? It would explain alot!



bricks

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Phennnnommmmmennnonnnnn, you were haarptard bashing in the haarptard thread the other day. Did I misread?

not me - that was trenchs thread. if i tossed out a smilie on him hes knows im just fuckin with him. but i think i mayve taken a shit on one of his trolls tho wink
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I dont remember you taking a doodoo on me..but then again I am not a troll.
hmm
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HAARP does not have the energies require to create EQs.
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and you know that how?
proof please.


Now you're saying they can make eq's but not big ones.
Could you pick a story and stick with it?
There's no clarity in your message. Too confusing !!

years ago I checked the monthly readings of the earth tremors in Alaska.
Alaska has a haarp and I was suspicious they were interfering or testing the technology.
That's not to say the eq's aren't non-man made.
Still wouldn't be surprised that haarp could help nature along and take advantage of a natural fault line by producing smaller eq's over a long period of time. Maybe not. It's speculation and that's what makes a DISCUSSION.

What makes you think technology hasn't advanced to produce a larger quake? It doesn't take a real big quake to topple some poorly built buildings in Haiti but the resulting drama is profound obviously.



same as the China quake which I'm guessing you believe was man-made?
Nature had convenient timing in that case.
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This is totally fucked up

you felt sick round this time too didnt you?
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So strange you say this, the night before the earthquake, I felt a searing pain in my brain for about 10 seconds, it was like my brain was tearing apart! I thought maybe we would have an earthquake then. Then next morning I was surprised to hear about Haiti, but it didn't seem exactly connected because it wasn't at the same time. But if it was harp from the day before, then it would make sense!! OMG what the friggin hell are they doing??

Why did you say that Phen? Has harp been known to make people sick? I almost thought I was having a stroke but nothing else happened to me.

You are a very smart woman and I admire your intelligence and tenacity. I am glad you don't suffer from fools.....
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isn't it possible that HAARP is being used in tandem with something we don't know about?

maybe electro magnetic equipment based around tesla technology
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that's my question as well.

Even scientists involved in high tech studies may not be aware of other studies.
Think area 51 scientists isolated from each others studies.

that's why I gotta be open about it all.
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So strange you say this, the night before the earthquake, I felt a searing pain in my brain for about 10 seconds, it was like my brain was tearing apart! I thought maybe we would have an earthquake then. Then next morning I was surprised to hear about Haiti, but it didn't seem exactly connected because it wasn't at the same time. But if it was harp from the day before, then it would make sense!! OMG what the friggin hell are they doing??


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hf

we who are sensitive get hit very hard by this sort of thing.

You described it well. My brain felt like it was being pulled apart and yet with a vivid presence of mind. I've experienced it before but not able to put exact situations to it.

Now thanks to this thread I believe it's the cause of some of our experiences surrounding that time frame.
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This is totally fucked up

you felt sick round this time too didnt you?



So strange you say this, the night before the earthquake, I felt a searing pain in my brain for about 10 seconds, it was like my brain was tearing apart! I thought maybe we would have an earthquake then. Then next morning I was surprised to hear about Haiti, but it didn't seem exactly connected because it wasn't at the same time. But if it was harp from the day before, then it would make sense!! OMG what the friggin hell are they doing??

Why did you say that Phen? Has harp been known to make people sick? I almost thought I was having a stroke but nothing else happened to me.

You are a very smart woman and I admire your intelligence and tenacity. I am glad you don't suffer from fools.....
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[link to stalking] is a crime/gal.php?g=21012010.jpg

Please look at those images of the magnetosphere recently. Did you feel anything then? I usually get headaches during large solar storms and the recent anomalous bursts from something other than the sun. Usually gamma ray bursts aka GRBs as can be seen here;

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]

HAARP can barely heat up the atmosphere to create plasma, yet the solar wind is constantly doing so above us, around us and everywhere in the universe.
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Ok, so this might suggest being able to create tiny EQs by a process not known to me...
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by a process not known to you?
What?
They left you out of the information loop?
How could that be possible??

you don't think that just maaaybeee there are highly top secret studies going on that only the scientists invovled and their specific authorities know about?

come on!!





but the energies are still coming from space.

 Quoting: Xenus 869756



Dude!!
That's what we've been saying !!
Haarp apparently does have abilities to cause or help along eq's and that comes from space.
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see
[link to 137.229.36.30]
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Image hosting websites not allowed?

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Question

I don't recall hearing what natural fault lines Haiti lies on if any.

Does anyone know?
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I don't recall hearing what natural fault lines Haiti lies on if any.

Does anyone know?
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I don't recall hearing what natural fault lines Haiti lies on if any.

Does anyone know?
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The entire planet is riddled with fault lines but this was still very unexpected.
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You chose to insult the wrong person Queen Bitch, stop now, admit you were wrong and you will be forgiven. Final chance you're getting from me... You don't want to piss me off.




Damn, people, if this isn't a threat! Phen, be careful out there!
hiding

pfft.

She's Ok, AC.

Believe me ;)
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No kiddin'!
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I don't recall hearing what natural fault lines Haiti lies on if any.

Does anyone know?



The entire planet is riddled with fault lines but this was still very unexpected.
[link to motherjones.com]
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Yeah, as far as a history of quakes related to these fault lines go I found this on wikipedia.
* A magnitude 7.5 earthquake struck southeastern coast of Jamaica in 1692, almost destroying Port Royal
* An earthquake struck along the southern coast of Hispaniola in 1751.[Chen 1]
* A magnitude 7.5 earthquake struck Port-au-Prince in 1770.
* The 1907 Kingston earthquake damaged every building in Kingston, Jamaica.[1]
* A magnitude 7.0 earthquake occurred near Port-au-Prince, Haiti as a result of seismic activity at this fault line on January 12, 2010.[2]

Other historical large earthquakes in 1860, 1761, 1684, 1673, and 1618 are also likely attributed to the EPGFZ, though none of these have been confirmed in the field as associated with this fault.[3]

Not to mention the aftershocks that seem to be occurring daily.
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There is more than one of these stations around, we have one also in Australia. It's owned now by a private company (I forget who, BOEING?) and partly by our defence forces.
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That sure doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. Interesting.
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Add the FED RES bank to the list of targets/rewards in Haiti.

There were several cloudships over E. Tennessee on Sun. Dec. 27. I watched a peculiar oval-shaped cloud with no distinct border surrounded by clear blue. In just a few minutes, while my buddy was inside paying for his gas, this cloud started evaporating, with ripples appearing around the edges. Pretty soon it was all ripples before disappearing. He came back out and I said "look at it now". He said "where'd it go?". Jus' sayin'. Sorry no pics. Nice work OP.
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Question

I don't recall hearing what natural fault lines Haiti lies on if any.

Does anyone know?



The entire planet is riddled with fault lines but this was still very unexpected.

[link to motherjones.com]
 Quoting: SunDawnn


Yes, it is riddled with fault lines, some areas more hazardous or problematic than others.

Thanks you and AS for the links. I'll read up on it.

like you said, the problem being that it was very unexpected along with Haarp deleting its record = suspicion.
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HAARP has deleted its records from 2010-1-11

Set the date in "Chart Archives" below the today's graph to 2001/Jan/11 in the window below the graph and see for your selves. It is the only instance of such an occurrence I have discovered by looking through other historical dates. Perhaps some other deletions have already been fixed, I can think of date like May 12th 2008 or December 26th 2004.

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There's another bit missing on the waterfall diagram for nov 20, 2009.