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Who says Barack Obama doesn't have what it takes to be president? Turns out, he's a distant cousin of both Dick Cheney and George Bush.

The vice president's wife, Lynne Cheney, announced her discovery yesterday while hawking her new book, "Blue Skies, No Fences," on MSNBC.

When asked if she would support Hillary Rodham Clinton because she is a woman, Lynne Cheney said, "I have to admit to a certain bias here . . . Dick and Barack Obama are eighth cousins."

Mrs. Cheney said that it was "an amazing American story that one ancestor . . . could be responsible down the family line for lives that have taken such different and varied paths



Then asked if she supported Obama she quickly said, "No."

Obama's camp made light of the family ties. "Every family has a black sheep," said spokeswoman Jen Psaki, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

The Chicago Sun-Times revealed the genealogical link in early September, claiming that the shared ancestors were Mareen and Susannah Duvall, 17th century immigrants from France.

The newspaper, however, claimed that the senator from Illinois and the vice president were 11th cousins.

The Duvalls are Obama's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa​rents, and Cheney's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents,​ the paper said.

George W. Bush and Obama, meanwhile, are 10th cousins once removed - linked through a 17th century Massachusetts couple, Samuel Hinckley and Sarah Soole, according to the Sun-Times.



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Must be why he sticks to the Bush policy.How about that it is the illuminati agenda?
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this is like a crack head giving a meth head advice
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Must be why he sticks to the Bush policy.How about that it is the illuminati agenda?
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It's not Bush's policy. It's Satan's policy. They are all following his script, doing his bidding.
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Everyone is related when you think about it.
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Must be why he sticks to the Bush policy.How about that it is the illuminati agenda?


It's not Bush's policy. It's Satan's policy. They are all following his script, doing his bidding.
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LOL
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this is like a crack head giving a meth head advice
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How is that?
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Everyone is related when you think about it.
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Not as close as 11th cousins.
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two presidents being that closly related may be a wake up call to what is going in.Also look at how closly all presidents are related to the power structure.
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It sure would be an awkward family reunion. But, believe it or not, Barack Obama is related to both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

OK, distantly related: Obama and Bush are 11th cousins
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[link to genealogy.suite101.com]

The common ancestors are so distant that the current president, former presidents and hopeful Sarah Palin arenít likely to meet at a family reunion. They all descend from Samuel Hinckley and Sarah Soole/Soule, who were married in England in 1617 and were among the first wave of New England settlers.

President Obama and Sarah Palin both descend from the coupleís daughter, Susannah, who married John Smith. Obamaís descent is from the Smith son, Samuel, who married Elizabeth Peirce. Palinís is from the son Shubael Smith, who married Abigail Skiffe. The two Bush presidents descend from Samuel and Sarahís son, Thomas Hinckley (1619-1706), who was a Plymouth Colony governor and held numerous other leadership posts.

The Obama Genealogy
President Obamaís line of descent is:

Samuel Hinckley m. Sarah Soole/Soule, 1617, Hawkhurst, Kent, England
Susannah Hinckley m. John Smith, 1643, Barnstable, MA
Samuel Smith m. Elizabeth Peirce, 1692, Woodbridge, NJ
Shubael Smith m. Prudence FitzRandolph, 1716, Woodbridge, NJ
Mary Smith m. Jonathan Dunham of Woodbridge, NJ
Samuel Dunham of Woodbridge, NJ m. Hannah (Ruble?) in 1775
Jacob Dunham m. Catherine Goodnight, 1819, Berkeley Co., VA (now WV)
Jacob Mackey Dunham m. Louise Eliza Stroup, 1853, Tipton Co., IN
Jacob William Dunham of Kempton, IN and Wichita, KS, m. Mary Ann Kearney, 1887
Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham m. Ruth Lucille Armour, 1915, Wichita, KS
Stanley Armour Dunham m. Madelyn Lee Payne, 1940, Eldorado, KS
Ann Dunham m. Dr. Barack Hussein Obama, 1961, Maui, Hawaii; divorced, 1964
President Barack Hussein Obama (b. 1961) m. Michelle L. Robinson, 1992, Chicago, IL
The Bush Lineage
The descent of the two Bush presidents is:

Samuel Hinckley m. Sarah Soole
Gov. Thomas Hinckley (1619-1706) m. Mary Richards
Samuel Hinckley m. Sarah Pope
Mary Hinckley m. Samuel Bangs
Joseph Bangs m. Thankful Hamlin
Lemuel Bangs m. Rebecca Keeler
Elijah Keeler Bangs m. Esther Stackhouse
Mary Ann Bangs m. Joseph Ambrose Beaky
Martha Adela Beaky m. David Davis Walker
George Herbert Walker m. Lucretia Wear
Dorothy Walker m. Prescott Sheldon Bush
George Herbert Walker Bush (born 1924), U. S. President
George Walker Bush (born 1946), U. S. President


Read more at Suite101: How Obama, Bush and Palin Are Related: Unlikely Political Associates Have Same Ancestors [link to genealogy.suite101.com]
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Who says Barack Obama doesn't have what it takes to be president? Turns out, he's a distant cousin of both Dick Cheney and George Bush.

The vice president's wife, Lynne Cheney, announced her discovery yesterday while hawking her new book, "Blue Skies, No Fences," on MSNBC.

When asked if she would support Hillary Rodham Clinton because she is a woman, Lynne Cheney said, "I have to admit to a certain bias here . . . Dick and Barack Obama are eighth cousins."

Mrs. Cheney said that it was "an amazing American story that one ancestor . . . could be responsible down the family line for lives that have taken such different and varied paths



Then asked if she supported Obama she quickly said, "No."

Obama's camp made light of the family ties. "Every family has a black sheep," said spokeswoman Jen Psaki, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

The Chicago Sun-Times revealed the genealogical link in early September, claiming that the shared ancestors were Mareen and Susannah Duvall, 17th century immigrants from France.

The newspaper, however, claimed that the senator from Illinois and the vice president were 11th cousins.

The Duvalls are Obama's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa​rents, and Cheney's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents,​ the paper said.

George W. Bush and Obama, meanwhile, are 10th cousins once removed - linked through a 17th century Massachusetts couple, Samuel Hinckley and Sarah Soole, according to the Sun-Times.



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Oh yeah, quite amazing all right. Yes, Lynne. It surely is a 'Small World After All' as the song goes, isn't it?
'When Plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men,
they create for themselves, in the course of time,
a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.'
Frederic Bastiat, 'The Law'
1850

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"The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
JohnSwinton, 1830-1901, Former chief-of-staff New York Times
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"The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution (The Bank of the United States), or the establishment of another like it." Andrew Jackson (December 2, 1834)
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The following material on the immediate ancestry of Barack Obama should not be considered either exhaustive or authoritative, but rather as a first draft.
...
Ancestry of Barack Obama
1 Barack ("Barry") Obama, Jr., US Senator from Illinois, b. Kapiolani Medical Center, Honolulu, Hawaii, 4 Aug. 1961
PARENTS
2 Barack Obama, Ph. D., b. Alego, Kenya , ... 1936, senior economist in the Kenyan Ministry of Finance, d. Nairobi, Kenya, ... 1982, bur. Alego
m. ... 1960, div. ... 1963
3 S Ann Dunham, b. ... , Kansas, 29 Nov. 1942, d. ... 7 Nov. 1995
...
10 x GREAT-GRANDPARENTS:

6162 - Samuel Hinckley, b. ... , d. Barnstable, Mass., 31 Oct. 1662
m. Hawkhurst, co. Kent, 17 May 1617
6163 - Sarah Soole, b. ... , d. Barnstable, Mass., 18 Aug. 1656



6162 & 6163 have other descendants, such as:

Samuel Hinckley m. Sarah Soole
.John Hinckley m. Bethiah Lathrop
|.Gershom Hinckley m. Mary Buel
||.Anne Hinckley m. Joseph Tracy
||| .Jared Tracy m. Margaret Grant
||| .William Gedney Tracy m. Rachel Huntington
||| .Charles Tracy m. Louisa Kirkland
||| .Frances Louise Tracy m. John Pierpont Morgan
||| .JOHN PIERPONT MORGAN JR. (1867-1943), banker
||.Mary Hinckley m. Nathan West
|| .Elias West m. Mary Lathrop
|| .Mary West m. Samuel Fish
|| .Nancy Lathrop Fish m. Benjamin Carver
|| .Mary Theresa Carver m. Levi Zeigler Leiter
|| .Mary Victoria Leiter m. GEORGE NATHANIEL CURZON, 1st Marquess CURZON (1859-1924)
|.Hannah Hinckley m. Benjamin Lewis
||.Bethiah Lewis m. John Ransom
|| .Alice Ransom m. Oliver Fuller
|| .Revilo Fuller m. Rebecca Giddings
|| .Revilo Fuller m. Caroline Esther Hungerford
|| .Rebecca Jane Fuller m. Edward Jonathan Giddings
|| .FRANKLIN HENRY GIDDINGS (1855-1931), sociologist
|.Samuel Hinckley m. Martha Lathrop
| .Samuel Hinckley m. Zerviah Breed
| |.Zerviah Hinckley m. Thaddeus Cook
| | .Zerviah Cook m. Samuel Robbins
| | .Elizabeth Robbins m. Joseph Grow
| | .GALUSHA AARON GROW (1822-1907), US Congressman
| .Samuel Hinckley (again) m. Mary Wyatt
| .Abel Hinckley m. Sarah Hubbard
| .Abel Hinckley m. Elizabeth Wheeler
| .Alfred Hinckley m. Elizabeth Stanley
| .Francis Edward Hinckley m. Amelia Smith
| .Percy Porter Hinckley m. Katherine Arvilla Warnock
| .John Warnock Hinckley m. Jo Anne Moore
| .JOHN WARNOCK HINCKLEY (b. 1955), attempted assassin
.Gov. THOMAS HINCKLEY (1619-1706) m. Mary Richards
.Samuel Hinckley m. Sarah Pope
.Job Hinckley m. Sarah Tufts
|.Samuel Hinckley m. Abigail Welch
| .Samuel Hinckley m. Dorothy Strong
| .Sophia Hinckley m. Jonathan Huntington Lyman
| .George Hinckley Lyman m. Marie Cornelia Ritchie Austin
| .Katherine Maria Lyman m. James Read Chadwick
| .Bessie Lyman Chadwick m. Douglas Hamilton Thomas
| .Katherine Lyman Thomas m. MATHIAS Graf von OPPERSDORFF (1899-1968)
| .Rosamonde Whitridge Thomas m. EDUARD Graf von OPPERSDORFF (1896-1976)
.Mary Hinckley m. Samuel Bangs
|.Joseph Bangs m. Thankful Hamlin
| .Lemuel Bangs m. Rebecca Keeler
| .Elijah Keeler Bangs m. Esther Stackhouse
| .Mary Ann Bangs m. Joseph Ambrose Beaky
| .Martha Adela Beaky m. David Davis Walker
| .George Herbert Walker m. Lucretia Wear
| .Dorothy Walker m. Prescott Sheldon Bush
| .GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH (b. 1924), US President, m. Barbara Pierce
| |.GEORGE WALKER BUSH (b. 1946), US President
| |.JOHN ELLIS "Jeb" BUSH (b. 1953), Governor of Florida
| |.Neil Mallon Bush m. Sharon Smith
| | .LAUREN BUSH (b. 1984), model
| .Jonathan James Bush m. Josephine Bradley
| .William Hall "BILLY" BUSH (b. 1972), entertainment reporter
.Thomas Hinckley m. Mercy ----
.Thomas Hinckley m. Ruth Merrick
.Nathaniel Hinckley m. Mercy Nickerson
.Nathaniel Hinckley m. Rhoda Barber
.Nathaniel Hinckley m. Lois Judd
.Ira Nathaniel Hinckley m. Angeline Wilcox Noble
.Bryant Stringham Hinckley m. Ada Bitner
.GORDON BITNER HINCKLEY (1910-2008), president of the Mormon church
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John Kerry is also the 11th cousin of Bush
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Every time I link on it,it freezes up so look it up people!
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This is a list of United States Presidents who are related to each other by direct descent.

John Adams and John Quincy Adams (father and son)
William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison (grandfather and grandson)
George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush (father and son)
Two other pairs of Presidents have shared a surname. Andrew Johnson and Lyndon Johnson have no known relationship. Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt were fifth cousins, though they were more closely related through Franklin's wife Eleanor Roosevelt (née Roosevelt), who was Theodore's niece.

[edit] Indirect relatives
This is a list of some of the closer blood relations, other than direct descent, between U.S. Presidents. (See Cousin chart to understand the terms used here.)

[edit] Second cousins
James Madison and Zachary Taylor
[edit] Third cousins
Martin Van Buren and Theodore Roosevelt (three times removed)
Martin Van Buren and Franklin Roosevelt (four times removed)
John Adams and Calvin Coolidge (six times removed)
James Madison and Barack Obama (nine times removed)
[edit] Fourth cousins
John Tyler and William Henry Harrison (once removed)
Ulysses Grant and Franklin D. Roosevelt (once removed)
John Adams and Millard Fillmore (three times removed)
John Quincy Adams and Franklin D. Roosevelt (three times removed)
Zachary Taylor and Franklin D. Roosevelt (half-cousins, three times removed)
James Garfield and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
James Garfield and George W. Bush (four times removed)
John Adams and William Taft (five times removed)
John Quincy Adams and Calvin Coolidge (five times removed)
Franklin Pierce and Herbert Hoover (five times removed)
Millard Fillmore and George H. W. Bush (five times removed)
Millard Fillmore and George W. Bush (six times removed)
Lyndon Johnson and Barack Obama (three times removed)
[edit] Fifth cousins
Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt
Millard Fillmore and Grover Cleveland (once removed)
Rutherford Hayes and Grover Cleveland (once removed)
John Tyler and Benjamin Harrison (once removed)
James Garfield and William Taft (once removed)
John Quincy Adams and Millard Fillmore (twice removed)
Millard Fillmore and Warren Harding (twice removed)
John Quincy Adams and William Taft (four times removed)
Millard Fillmore and Herbert Hoover (four times removed)
Franklin Pierce and George H. W. Bush (four times removed)
Grover Cleveland and Gerald Ford (four times removed)
Millard Fillmore and Gerald Ford (five times removed)
Franklin Pierce and George W. Bush (five times removed)
[edit] Sixth cousins
Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter
Millard Fillmore and William Taft (once removed)
Ulysses Grant and Grover Cleveland (once removed)
Rutherford Hayes and Franklin Roosevelt (once removed)
Grover Cleveland and William Taft (once removed)
Franklin Pierce and Franklin Roosevelt (twice removed)
James Garfield and Calvin Coolidge (twice removed)
William Taft and Franklin Roosevelt (twice removed)
Calvin Coolidge and George H. W. Bush (twice removed)
Franklin Roosevelt and Gerald Ford (twice removed)
Ulysses Grant and Gerald Ford (three times removed)
Rutherford Hayes and Gerald Ford (three times removed)
Rutherford Hayes and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
William Taft and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
Calvin Coolidge and George W. Bush (three times removed)
Franklin Roosevelt and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
Millard Fillmore and Calvin Coolidge (four times removed)
Franklin Pierce and Calvin Coolidge (four times removed)
Rutherford Hayes and George W. Bush (four times removed)
William Taft and George W. Bush (four times removed)
Franklin Roosevelt and George W. Bush (four times removed)
Ulysses Grant and George H. W. Bush (five times removed)
Ulysses Grant and George W. Bush (six times removed)
[edit] Seventh cousins
Millard Fillmore and Ulysses Grant
Benjamin Harrison and William Taft
Gerald Ford and George H. W. Bush
William Taft and Calvin Coolidge (once removed)
Millard Fillmore and Franklin D. Roosevelt (once removed)
Calvin Coolidge and Franklin D. Roosevelt (once removed)
Gerald Ford and George W. Bush (once removed)
Ulysses Grant and Calvin Coolidge (twice removed)
Grover Cleveland and George H. W. Bush (twice removed)
William Taft and Richard Nixon (twice removed)
William Taft and Gerald Ford (twice removed)
James Garfield and Herbert Hoover (three times removed)
James Garfield and Gerald Ford (three times removed)
Grover Cleveland and George W. Bush (three times removed)
Theodore Roosevelt and George H. W. Bush (three times removed)
Abraham Lincoln and Gerald Ford (four times removed)
Abraham Lincoln and George H. W. Bush (four times removed)
Theodore Roosevelt and George W. Bush (four times removed)
Abraham Lincoln and George W. Bush (five times removed)
Harry Truman and Barack Obama (three times removed)
[edit] Eighth cousins
Grover Cleveland and Franklin D. Roosevelt (half-cousin)
Rutherford Hayes and William Taft (once removed)
Calvin Coolidge and Richard Nixon (once removed)
Calvin Coolidge and Gerald Ford (once removed)
Herbert Hoover and Gerald Ford (once removed)
Franklin Roosevelt and Richard Nixon (once removed)
William Taft and Warren Harding (twice removed)
Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford (twice removed)
Rutherford Hayes and Richard Nixon (three times removed)
[edit] Ninth cousins
Warren Harding and Richard Nixon
Warren Harding and Jimmy Carter
Benjamin Harrison and Calvin Coolidge (once removed)
Warren Harding and Gerald Ford (once removed)
Richard Nixon and George H. W. Bush (four times removed)
Richard Nixon and George W. Bush (five times removed)
[edit] Tenth cousins
Herbert Hoover and George H. W. Bush
Herbert Hoover and George W. Bush (once removed)
Gerald Ford and Barack Obama (once removed)
George H.W. Bush and Barack Obama (once removed)
George W. Bush and Barack Obama
The list above includes the closer, more significant relationships. Family trees, particularly those in a limited geographic area, tend to converge relatively rapidly and many family trees going back ten generations or more will connect to more than one dozen U.S. Presidents, if all female ancestors and their descendants are traced. This is why, for example, it is not mentioned that through Robert Wyngate of Sharpenhoe, Bedfordshire, J.Q. Adams and W.H. Harrison are eighth cousins.

There are also numerous relationships by marriage which are not presented in this article. For example, Richard Nixon was the father-in-law of Dwight Eisenhower's grandson. George Washington's half aunt married James Madison's half first cousin once removed. Woodrow Wilson married (as his second wife) the great-great-great-niece of Thomas Jefferson.

[edit] Presidents related to royalty
[edit] Presidents related to British royalty
This is a list of presidents of royal descent. Note that since all of these Presidents are related to English or Scottish monarchs, they are also all related to each other, though very distantly. Also note that the ancestry is from the most recent royal ancestor through their younger children who did not receive royal title or whose patents of nobility were not passed on because of rules of primogeniture.

George Washington (descendant of Edward III of England)
Thomas Jefferson (descendant of Edward III of England)
James Madison (descendant of Edward I of England)
James Monroe (descendant of Edward III of England)
John Quincy Adams (descendant of Edward III of England)
William Henry Harrison and his grandson, Benjamin Harrison (descendants of Edward I of England)
Zachary Taylor (descendant of Edward I of England)
Franklin Pierce (descendant of Henry I of England)
Rutherford Hayes (descendant of David I of Scotland)
Grover Cleveland (descendant of Edward I of England)
Theodore Roosevelt (descendant of Edward III of England)
William Taft (descendant of Edward I of England)
Warren Harding (descendant of Ethelred II of England)
Calvin Coolidge (descendant of Henry II of England)
Herbert Hoover (descendant of John of England)
Franklin Roosevelt (descendant of Edward III of England)
Richard Nixon (descendant of Edward I of England)
Gerald Ford (descendant of Edward I of England)
Ronald Reagan (descendant of James V of Scotland)
George H.W. Bush and his son, George W. Bush (descendants of Edward I of England)
Barack Obama (descendant of Edward I of England and William the Lion of Scotland
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this is like a crack head giving a meth head advice


How is that?
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this is like a crack head giving a meth head advice


How is that?



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are u saying u are a sheeple?
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i doubt theyre related.
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Well its up to you guys to figure out.
Is it that we are all realted that close.
Are do the presidents resemble a monarchy of
powers that be.You be the judge.I also suggest some more
reserch into this.

Good night.





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